DLC price is pretty high and it does not justify the DLC itself for permanent time, i mean, look on IC DLC, first month it was amazing that 2500 crowns seems ok for it.. now? its a ghost town... 2500 crowns would be justified if atleast players population decreased by 70% in the DLC area.. not 100%.
now you look at crown store and find a ghost town DLC for 2500 crowns..
and many DLCs are gonna become like it.. when was the last time you visited hew's bane?
GreenhaloX wrote: »The subscription is not bad, for the time being. Really, for me, there is nothing more to the DLC areas after all the quests are done, other than for farming mats, ores and doing the repeatable for XP. I've been at this for 3 months now and basically finished all the quests from the main and DLCs (prior to DB) within 3 weeks of playtime. DB only took a few days. For a bit over two months now, I just been grinding the repeatable, going back and forth doing assassin contracts, doing rounds of dolmen, and dungeons just to get XP towards leveling up the CP to 501. I finally made it into the 400 and figured I'll hit 501 within the next few weeks.
After 501.. so then what? It's been so monotonous grinding the same thing everyday and boringness is slowing creeping up. Unless another cool DLC comes out and/or the CP cap increases enough to say wow, what's there more, after you're all gold-out, millions in your bank and no longer need XP for CP. Doubt it the subscription will be any value to me after this. Other than PvP, I'm still not sure what the heck all those 501s are doing in and around all the areas in Tamriel. I mean, by the time you've reached 501, you should already have all your armor, gear and weapons in gold and pretty much have all the achievements, trials and dungeons done. Kudos for those 501s still running around, outside of Cyrodiil.
Some people will probably say or maybe post a reply to this.. well, why are you even playing if the only thing you doing is for XP and seems like there is nothing more for you in ESO. I'll pull the trigger and put the answer before someone even mentions it. I'm a self-proclaimed perfectionist. Yes, after the initial 3-weeks, I could've push ESO aside and go into Assassin Creed: Syndicate or the recent DLC for The Witcher 3 (which I'm itching back for both.) However, getting schooled in Cyrodiil for my first couple PvP encounters and getting my arse handed back to me gift-wrapped (even when I was the previous V16), I've been obsessed with trying to get more powerful and capping the CP and then going back into Cyrodiil for some much due payback. So yeah, the DLCs and subscription are making money off me right now.
klineklinus89ub17_ESO wrote: »Solid_Metal wrote: »subs $15/month will give you access to ALL of the DLC, its the way to goklineklinus89ub17_ESO wrote: »sorry Zenimax but I don't plan on renting any of it with ESO plus and the price tag of all that DLC is going to keep me from picking this game back upThere's more than enough in the base game.
DLC is always overpriced, no matter what game.
yeah and I don't plan on playing a incomplete experiance
the price on all this DLC needs to come down way the flip down and I also don't own the game on steam I bought it before it went on steam so no discount for me.
DLC price is pretty high and it does not justify the DLC itself for permanent time, i mean, look on IC DLC, first month it was amazing that 2500 crowns seems ok for it.. now? its a ghost town... 2500 crowns would be justified if atleast players population decreased by 70% in the DLC area.. not 100%.
now you look at crown store and find a ghost town DLC for 2500 crowns..
and many DLCs are gonna become like it.. when was the last time you visited hew's bane?
Yes, it is a subscription game, but their subscription is only 7 usd.
klineklinus89ub17_ESO wrote:yeah and I don't plan on playing a incomplete experiance
TheDarkoil wrote: »I don't necessarily agree with OP, but I wish Zenimax would make a crown pack for returning players. All the crowns you need to buy all the updates for a discounted price that is a little more significant than the packages of crowns currently available. That or have more crown sales like they had with the release of TG, those I think, would help a lot as returning players are far more likely to come back as a new extension is being released.
Alas, I doubt they will do either of those. The tendency seems to be 2000 crown DLCs with ever mingling content. This new DLC coming out soon-ish is simply terrible, it offers barely no new content...
So people who are returning and haven't subbed in a while get to buy crowns cheaper while the people who have had active subs and gave money to the company don't get a discount? Dude there would be mass hysteria if they did that. That's like what Sky do, "oh your leaving us well why don't you have this half price package for 6 months while the rest of the idiots can carry on paying full price"
This is a stimulus for players that left to return and increase the game player base. Those player may even become subscribers again. You do realise when you buy an expansion to a game like WoW for instance, that you buy all the expansions since you stopped playing, right?
The new WoW coming out is being sold for about 40 usd and it gives you a level up to the previous max level in any one character + all the previous expansions you didn't buy previously, this expansion, will as usual be updated with new raids for 'free' along the year. Yes, it is a subscription game, but their subscription is only 7 usd.
Meanwhile a returning player to ESO will spend 9,500 crowns + 2000 crowns in a a month or so, that is 11,500 crowns which is the equivalent of about 88 usd. That... That is a lot of money to spend in a game and the subscription to ESO+ is a little on salty side.
Here is a simple comparison, in 1 year of ESO+ you will spend 180 usd. In one year of WoW you will spend 125 usd, that price including buying the expansion released every year. So yes, I think ZOS could make deals to attract returning players that are not necessarily interested in maintaining a subscription that not everyone finds very attractive.
Arthur_Spoonfondle wrote: »Given the way extra content is being added as a slow drip-feed of, by the standards of some other MMOs with their big expansions, tiny paid-for DLCs, I have no intention of paying any more money until ZoS are much closer to fulfilling their promise to make the whole of Tamriel playable. (I was in at the start but, stopped playing and paying when I got fed-up waiting for the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild).
The way things are going it's going to be a long time before the whole of Tamriel may be playable and I'm not confident it is ever going to happen.
TheDarkoil wrote: »I don't necessarily agree with OP, but I wish Zenimax would make a crown pack for returning players. All the crowns you need to buy all the updates for a discounted price that is a little more significant than the packages of crowns currently available. That or have more crown sales like they had with the release of TG, those I think, would help a lot as returning players are far more likely to come back as a new extension is being released.
Alas, I doubt they will do either of those. The tendency seems to be 2000 crown DLCs with ever mingling content. This new DLC coming out soon-ish is simply terrible, it offers barely no new content...
So people who are returning and haven't subbed in a while get to buy crowns cheaper while the people who have had active subs and gave money to the company don't get a discount? Dude there would be mass hysteria if they did that. That's like what Sky do, "oh your leaving us well why don't you have this half price package for 6 months while the rest of the idiots can carry on paying full price"
This is a stimulus for players that left to return and increase the game player base. Those player may even become subscribers again. You do realise when you buy an expansion to a game like WoW for instance, that you buy all the expansions since you stopped playing, right?
The new WoW coming out is being sold for about 40 usd and it gives you a level up to the previous max level in any one character + all the previous expansions you didn't buy previously, this expansion, will as usual be updated with new raids for 'free' along the year. Yes, it is a subscription game, but their subscription is only 7 usd.
Meanwhile a returning player to ESO will spend 9,500 crowns + 2000 crowns in a a month or so, that is 11,500 crowns which is the equivalent of about 88 usd. That... That is a lot of money to spend in a game and the subscription to ESO+ is a little on salty side.
Here is a simple comparison, in 1 year of ESO+ you will spend 180 usd. In one year of WoW you will spend 125 usd, that price including buying the expansion released every year. So yes, I think ZOS could make deals to attract returning players that are not necessarily interested in maintaining a subscription that not everyone finds very attractive.
klineklinus89ub17_ESO wrote: »yeah and I don't plan on playing a incomplete experiance
klineklinus89ub17_ESO wrote: »the price on all this DLC needs to come down way the flip down and I also don't own the game on steam I bought it before it went on steam so no discount for me.
DLC price is pretty high and it does not justify the DLC itself for permanent time, i mean, look on IC DLC, first month it was amazing that 2500 crowns seems ok for it.. now? its a ghost town... 2500 crowns would be justified if atleast players population decreased by 70% in the DLC area.. not 100%.
now you look at crown store and find a ghost town DLC for 2500 crowns..
and many DLCs are gonna become like it.. when was the last time you visited hew's bane?
klineklinus89ub17_ESO wrote: »Solid_Metal wrote: »subs $15/month will give you access to ALL of the DLC, its the way to goklineklinus89ub17_ESO wrote: »sorry Zenimax but I don't plan on renting any of it with ESO plus and the price tag of all that DLC is going to keep me from picking this game back upThere's more than enough in the base game.
DLC is always overpriced, no matter what game.
yeah and I don't plan on playing a incomplete experiance
the price on all this DLC needs to come down way the flip down and I also don't own the game on steam I bought it before it went on steam so no discount for me.
I'm sorry, but it sounds like you want it all for nothing. Base price that you paid gets you challenging and updated endgame content (VSo), other trials coming up next update. Base game vet dungeons are less challenging, but still rewarding (City of Ash and Skoria Helm).
Not even talking about hours of questing and exploration.
You have access to all of that and it's your choice to dismiss it. Please don't make it sound like evil game makers are holding you back
TheDarkoil wrote: »I don't necessarily agree with OP, but I wish Zenimax would make a crown pack for returning players. All the crowns you need to buy all the updates for a discounted price that is a little more significant than the packages of crowns currently available. That or have more crown sales like they had with the release of TG, those I think, would help a lot as returning players are far more likely to come back as a new extension is being released.
Alas, I doubt they will do either of those. The tendency seems to be 2000 crown DLCs with ever mingling content. This new DLC coming out soon-ish is simply terrible, it offers barely no new content...
So people who are returning and haven't subbed in a while get to buy crowns cheaper while the people who have had active subs and gave money to the company don't get a discount? Dude there would be mass hysteria if they did that. That's like what Sky do, "oh your leaving us well why don't you have this half price package for 6 months while the rest of the idiots can carry on paying full price"
This is a stimulus for players that left to return and increase the game player base. Those player may even become subscribers again. You do realise when you buy an expansion to a game like WoW for instance, that you buy all the expansions since you stopped playing, right?
The new WoW coming out is being sold for about 40 usd and it gives you a level up to the previous max level in any one character + all the previous expansions you didn't buy previously, this expansion, will as usual be updated with new raids for 'free' along the year. Yes, it is a subscription game, but their subscription is only 7 usd.
Meanwhile a returning player to ESO will spend 9,500 crowns + 2000 crowns in a a month or so, that is 11,500 crowns which is the equivalent of about 88 usd. That... That is a lot of money to spend in a game and the subscription to ESO+ is a little on salty side.
Here is a simple comparison, in 1 year of ESO+ you will spend 180 usd. In one year of WoW you will spend 125 usd, that price including buying the expansion released every year. So yes, I think ZOS could make deals to attract returning players that are not necessarily interested in maintaining a subscription that not everyone finds very attractive.
1 year of subscribing to ESO will cost you about $156. You can choose to pay $14.99 a month. You could also pay 3 months at a time for $13.99 a month, or you can purchase 6 months at a time for $12.99 a month. You also get 18,000 crowns for doing so (or 1500 a month) and a +10% bonus to experience earned. You also get all of the DLC included with your subscription. With all the Crowns you earn from subscribing, you could purchase all of the DLC and then cancel your sub afterwards.
I just looked at the WoW subscription prices and they are exactly the same as ESO. Even if you are subscribed to WoW, you still have to purchase the DLC to use it, correct? I know some is bundled with newer stuff, but you still have to purchase it. I looked all around and couldn't find anything that said you can play for $7 a month. Please show me where it is $7 a month so I can know for myself.
If it is the same price, then your entire argument is pretty much void. ESO is a super great deal in my opinion. I've always paid monthly subs in the MMO's I have played. If I am enjoying a game, I have no problem paying $0.50 a day to play it. I spend more than that for the electricity I use to run my computer.
Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »TheDarkoil wrote: »I don't necessarily agree with OP, but I wish Zenimax would make a crown pack for returning players. All the crowns you need to buy all the updates for a discounted price that is a little more significant than the packages of crowns currently available. That or have more crown sales like they had with the release of TG, those I think, would help a lot as returning players are far more likely to come back as a new extension is being released.
Alas, I doubt they will do either of those. The tendency seems to be 2000 crown DLCs with ever mingling content. This new DLC coming out soon-ish is simply terrible, it offers barely no new content...
So people who are returning and haven't subbed in a while get to buy crowns cheaper while the people who have had active subs and gave money to the company don't get a discount? Dude there would be mass hysteria if they did that. That's like what Sky do, "oh your leaving us well why don't you have this half price package for 6 months while the rest of the idiots can carry on paying full price"
This is a stimulus for players that left to return and increase the game player base. Those player may even become subscribers again. You do realise when you buy an expansion to a game like WoW for instance, that you buy all the expansions since you stopped playing, right?
The new WoW coming out is being sold for about 40 usd and it gives you a level up to the previous max level in any one character + all the previous expansions you didn't buy previously, this expansion, will as usual be updated with new raids for 'free' along the year. Yes, it is a subscription game, but their subscription is only 7 usd.
Meanwhile a returning player to ESO will spend 9,500 crowns + 2000 crowns in a a month or so, that is 11,500 crowns which is the equivalent of about 88 usd. That... That is a lot of money to spend in a game and the subscription to ESO+ is a little on salty side.
Here is a simple comparison, in 1 year of ESO+ you will spend 180 usd. In one year of WoW you will spend 125 usd, that price including buying the expansion released every year. So yes, I think ZOS could make deals to attract returning players that are not necessarily interested in maintaining a subscription that not everyone finds very attractive.
@Grao
A comparison to WoW? I've never taken comparisons of any game to WoW seriously. It's on such an old engin a brick will play it which is part of the reason it's so cheap to play. I choose to not play a cartoon That's so last decade.
vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »DLC price is pretty high and it does not justify the DLC itself for permanent time, i mean, look on IC DLC, first month it was amazing that 2500 crowns seems ok for it.. now? its a ghost town... 2500 crowns would be justified if atleast players population decreased by 70% in the DLC area.. not 100%.
now you look at crown store and find a ghost town DLC for 2500 crowns..
and many DLCs are gonna become like it.. when was the last time you visited hew's bane?
No worries when the expansion comes out at 60 bucks it will include all the DLCs so far.....
Considering the majority of their development team is now working on One Tamriel and the rest working on these 'smaller content packs', there is nobody left to work on an expansion even if they had one planned.