Official Feedback Thread for Style Parlor Assets (Crown Store)

StopDropAndBear · July 2016

The "Subtle Dark Lashes" aren't especially subtle on my Wood Elf...after trying them on other characters (Nord, Breton, High Elf, Dark Elf) I can conclude this is not how they're supposed to look.

Also present: Weird dark spots where my Antler adornment used to be after replacing it with with another "Facial hair"

EDIT: Just noticed a similar issue with the Dragonfly Wing lashes, they have a strange white box surrounding the eyelash hair (looks like I forgot to take the backing off my falsies)

manavortex · July 2016

Not exactly a style parlour asset, but _THANK YOU_!!! for adjusting the persona's faces.

Could you now please please make the loops go away? Toggle-able? We would love to use the personas for RP, but we can't if they make our characters constantly twitch around - I don't feel comfortable with having so much control over my character stripped away from me.
I have SyncMotes wired up and I like using emotes to emphasise my character's body language when I need to - not at random. That's especially important really aggressive gestures, like the angry-persona does it. Where is the silent brooding of the person who never goes to bed angry and instead lies awake, plotting their revenge?

I know you want to make then easily identifiable from a distance, and unique and everything. How about a /loop emote that makes them spin, and on default they are standing still? Or a toggle in the settings?

Abeille · July 2016

@StopDropAndBear this happens to my Bosmer when I try to use it with her antlers. If I remove the antlers in the character creator, the bug goes away.

With antlers:

Without antlers or any other adornment:

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom can we get this looked at? I love the subtle dark lashes, but I am not letting go of the antlers for it. The antlers are my favourite adornment and one of the things I had missed since Morrowind. I need them.

StopDropAndBear · July 2016

Ah, so it seems the antlers are the culprit!

feyii · July 2016

this also happens to orcs with horns. the lashes look wrong in combination with them. also, some headgear - crafted or from costumes - has the same effect.

MornaBaine · July 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

This is the official feedback thread for the Style Parlor Assets (Crown Store), including new hair styles, adornments, and markings. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:

[*] Is there anything you would like to see changed and/or added to the experience?
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Yes. Yes there is sooooo much I would like to see changed and/or added to the experience! First, there are not nearly ENOUGH hairstyles being added. You really need to add at least twice as many. This is the big fanfare presentation of this feature and it's REALLY underwhelming! Secondly, MOST of the new hairstyles (for humans and mer anyway) are just...ugly. There's just no real nice way to say it.

Also, where's the long hair? There really isn't ANY and I don't understand why. At first I figured it had to be clipping issues and of course hair falling over the shoulder in front could be problematical. But there is THIS hair already:

It is, I believe, the longest hair in the game. And it's back from the face and simply falls down the center of the back. There's no real reason it couldn't be longer still. Or curly! And with that in mind, please look at these:

Oh look, here's the one you ALMOST did! Except you made it too short and made the ends look like they were trimmed with a weed whacker.

Some hairstyles with crowns would also be pretty fantastic!

As would be some hair that is worn up so no need to worry about clipping at all!

MornaBaine · July 2016

And can we PLEASE get some long hair for the lads too???

Okay it doesn't have to be BLUE but...

MornaBaine · July 2016

Epona222 wrote: »

OK I tried an appearance change token, and that allowed me to change my jewelry.

I don't want to have to do this to change jewelry (and nor will I EVER bother buying an appearance change token for this one thing).

I WOULD buy jewelry packs to change any character's jewelry at will. I would also buy makeup/warpaint packs, or facial hair packs so that I had a range of looks to use on my multiple characters (both male and female, of all races). So I think ZOS are actually hampering what they could achieve here. As it is, I am not going to buy a token just to change an item of jewelry, so ZOS are possibly missing a trick.

So all of this! There NEEDS to be jewelry and makeup packs!!!!! I can't believe you are actually considering going live without them!

MornaBaine · July 2016

Blacksheepart wrote: »

As of right now, if you're a vampire none of the cosmetic new arrivals will be worth a purchase. The hideous vampire skin hides 99% of all markings and or skin embellishments; the other 1% makes slight grey markings. Is anything going to be done to improve this?

**Edit**
Lashes also clip the Bosmer horns.

I would REALLY like an answer to this question.

MornaBaine · July 2016

Seriously, you need to add more GOOD hairstyles to the Style Parlor before you bring it out. As is, it's just too disappointing.

Personofsecrets · July 2016

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

I tried out the hair styles.

Was it clear how to buy and use the Style Parlor assets?

Sort of, but I kept having the issue of attempting to equip a hair that could not be equipped on my race of character. This got annoying.

Did they work as expected?

No, I wanted to equip a hairstyle, while wearing a disguise and hiding my helmet, but I could not get the hair style to appear.

Is there anything you would like to see changed and/or added to the experience?

All I want is the hair from my disguise back. A change removed the hair from that disguise. I thought that the hairstyle parlor would let me wear a disguise and hair, but it did not.

Lord Thornos with his long flowing locks of hair before the hair was taken away.

Knaxia · July 2016

Personofsecrets wrote: »

...

Was it clear how to buy and use the Style Parlor assets?

Sort of, but I kept having the issue of attempting to equip a hair that could not be equipped on my race of character. This got annoying.

...

They added an option to "show usable" (top right corner, where is the show all/locked/unlocked) so it will filter out stuff your current race/gender cannot use.

Iove · July 2016

When previewing body markings, your armor stays on so you can't see the markings. It would be nice if the armor would automatically be hidden so you can actually preview the markings.

Pizzathegreat wrote: »

Hair problems

By no means I pretend to offend the people that made them, but the new items are not worth to spend money on them, at least for me.

It took me 5 days to download the PTS and I was really excited about this, but now that I could do some testing, it really let me down.

The design looks really basic and similar to what we already have, there is nothing there for me saddly.

It is like if they where made by somebody who dont know much about hair cuts, please forgive me if it sounds offensive.

Possible solution

If you need inspiration to design the new assets, take a look at skyrim modders, some of them may be over the top but there is a lot to chose and at least you could understand what people will want.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/10168/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68311/?

Some of the GW2 stuff too http://dulfy.net/2015/12/15/gw2-new-hairstyles-in-wintersday-patch/

If making those new hairs would be to hard, another solution could be at least to remove the gender lock on the hair bundle to make it worth it, a lot of styles are shared between both genders already but the long hairs are locked.

The tousled bard, the wavy triple braided updo and the windhelm weavenet are beign used by both genders and if those can, why the others cant?

So yeah no gender lock for hair styles.

Also, please get your hair designers to take a look at the ideas mentioned above. The new hairs are really basic for something that has been 2+ years coming. I would love to see something a lot more similar to the ones linked above. I do hope that you realise that the similarity of the new hairstyles to the old ones actually makes it so that the new hairstyles don't even seem to add anything to the appearance customisation of the game. Can barely tell they are new designs.