Is it working as intended ? Nerf or bug to Dark Stalker?
Dark Stalker used to remove sneak speed penalty. It now only removes 50% of the sneak speed penalty leaving you between full on slow sneak and normal speed.
My guess is it had to do with concealed weapon which gives +25% movement speed while stealthed. I believe with CW + DS you actually moved fairly quickly (almost as fast as Major Exp all while stealthed) in stealth and toss in Double Take and you'd really move quite fast.
With some changes to "try" (you decide) to make vamp more attractive I'd guess they were worried about a bunch of magicka NB vamps running around in stealth at a faster than sprint speed (no stealth penalty, 25% speed bonus from CW, 30% speed bonus from DT).
If so a better fix would have been to make CW remove 25% sneak penalty. So it won't bump you over 100% speed if you had DS also.
If they keep this change I'd really like to see the vamp passive or a clone of it moved to Thieves Guild, DB, NB Passives, or Werewolves (or any combo of). As a stamina NB it's the sole reason I run vamp.
The only alternative now is to run 5pc armor that negates the speed penalty at the expense of other bonuses.
Again that's all just my guess/speculation.
Dark Stalker actually isn't very useful on a Magic NB. Cloak doesn't give you a move speed penalty when you use it, and Magic NBs use cloak more often then they sneak. A Magic NB can use Rapids, and Concealed Weapon + Cloak to scan an entire factions sewer area in about five minutes all while never being seen or going below half magic.
Dark Stalker used to remove sneak speed penalty. It now only removes 50% of the sneak speed penalty leaving you between full on slow sneak and normal speed.
Is it working as intended ? Nerf or bug to Dark Stalker?
nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »Is it working as intended ? Nerf or bug to Dark Stalker?
In the patch notes they wrote that the tooltip of dark stalker were corrected to show how it actually works......
But we all know that dark stalker gave the same bonus as night silence set and now it is far slower than the 2 set bonuses that give stealth speed.
If this was intentional. Your only hurting yourself ZOS. Why would I bother paying for a vamp upgrade in the crown store if I am being nerfed. Lol.
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We’ve identified a bug with Dark Stalker where the movement speed penalty reduction while crouching is 50%, when it should be 100%. This will be fixed in an upcoming incremental patch, and the tooltip will be changed to say "Ignores the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch."
phreatophile wrote: »If the tooltip was changed to 50%, which it was, since it is being changed back, how is this a bug rather than a bad decision being walked back?
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We’ve identified a bug with Dark Stalker where the movement speed penalty reduction while crouching is 50%, when it should be 100%. This will be fixed in an upcoming incremental patch, and the tooltip will be changed to say "Ignores the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch."
GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We’ve identified a bug with Dark Stalker where the movement speed penalty reduction while crouching is 50%, when it should be 100%. This will be fixed in an upcoming incremental patch, and the tooltip will be changed to say "Ignores the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch."phreatophile wrote: »If the tooltip was changed to 50%, which it was, since it is being changed back, how is this a bug rather than a bad decision being walked back?
This is why i have trust issue's with Zos. They are alway's nerfing abilities under the table and when they get caught they call it a bug...
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We’ve identified a bug with Dark Stalker where the movement speed penalty reduction while crouching is 50%, when it should be 100%. This will be fixed in an upcoming incremental patch, and the tooltip will be changed to say "Ignores the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch."
Yeah, I really hate this trend.They do seem feather intent on slowing players down and snaring the heck out of them.
It's one of the more annoying and quite frankly disappointing aspects of the last few patches.
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We’ve identified a bug with Dark Stalker where the movement speed penalty reduction while crouching is 50%, when it should be 100%. This will be fixed in an upcoming incremental patch, and the tooltip will be changed to say "Ignores the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch."
GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We’ve identified a bug with Dark Stalker where the movement speed penalty reduction while crouching is 50%, when it should be 100%. This will be fixed in an upcoming incremental patch, and the tooltip will be changed to say "Ignores the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch."phreatophile wrote: »If the tooltip was changed to 50%, which it was, since it is being changed back, how is this a bug rather than a bad decision being walked back?
This is why i have trust issue's with Zos. They are alway's nerfing abilities under the table and when they get caught they call it a bug...
GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We’ve identified a bug with Dark Stalker where the movement speed penalty reduction while crouching is 50%, when it should be 100%. This will be fixed in an upcoming incremental patch, and the tooltip will be changed to say "Ignores the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch."phreatophile wrote: »If the tooltip was changed to 50%, which it was, since it is being changed back, how is this a bug rather than a bad decision being walked back?
This is why i have trust issue's with Zos. They are alway's nerfing abilities under the table and when they get caught they call it a bug...
It does seem odd. How does a tooltip change that states 50% penalty reduction in crouch, amount to being a bug? Someone intentionally changed the tooltip. But whatever, thanks to Zos for correcting.
Does dark stalker stack with the night silence set?
phreatophile wrote: »If the tooltip was changed to 50%, which it was, since it is being changed back, how is this a bug rather than a bad decision being walked back?
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We’ve identified a bug with Dark Stalker where the movement speed penalty reduction while crouching is 50%, when it should be 100%. This will be fixed in an upcoming incremental patch, and the tooltip will be changed to say "Ignores the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch."
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »We’ve identified a bug with Dark Stalker where the movement speed penalty reduction while crouching is 50%, when it should be 100%. This will be fixed in an upcoming incremental patch, and the tooltip will be changed to say "Ignores the Movement Speed penalty while in Crouch."