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Why ZOS?! Undaunted chests

The_Rooster24
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First off I want to say thank you to ZOS for making the changes needed to the undaunted chests. With that being said. Why on earth would you add prosperous and training to the drops?

I can understand sturdy I can even get behind well-fitted, but for the love of god I used 160 keys 75+ gold keys only to come away with 1 shoulder that was BIS. While I had to watch myself deconstruct over 40 shoulders with the prosperous and training trait. Once again you take one step forward to take another step back.

P.S. why on earth would you remove impen? Clearly none of you play this game or even care about it at all. Impen is arguably one of the most used traits behind divines on small pieces of armor. Btw small pieces of armor are boots, belts, gloves and shoulders. Just thought I would clarify since you don't understand the game. Every hardcore pvp players uses impen. If you can name 1 good player who would use these new traits over any of the others I will yield. So, knowing that you can't. Please fix this.
Edited by The_Rooster24 on May 31, 2016 8:05PM
  • Mr.Hmm
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    RNG my friend.
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  • Erraln
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    So you found 40 of your results worth junking, and the rate now is 100% vs 30% ish beforehand... how many of them were you junking beforehand? Aren't you still coming out ahead?
    Edited by Erraln on May 31, 2016 7:44PM
  • The_Rooster24
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    Erraln wrote: »
    So you found 40/160 of your results worth junking, and the rate now is 100% vs 30% ish beforehand... how many of them were you junking beforehand? Aren't you still coming out ahead?

    I love the change, but not that. I feel that is reasonable.
  • LadyNalcarya
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    Well-fitted? Pff, there are WAY better traits. :p
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  • GreatWhite000
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    I got 3 kena shoulders... with training. Deconstructed those POS's straight away.
  • kadar
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    End game gear with Training and Prosperous traits. Not only is this not ideal or desirable, it is flat-out illogical.
  • Kirameku
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    I got like 10+ Lord Warden's shoulders from 20 keys. And 5 Mephala's :D
  • wayfarerx
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    C'mon, that prosperous engine guardian shoulder I got this morning is awesome! Too bad I already upgraded my divines one to gold.

    /sarcasm
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  • Brightxdawn
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    Yep i got training and prosperous traits. Sucks burned alot of keys. : (
  • Jhunn
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    Simple. To keep the exclusiveness at a certain level.
    Gave up.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    I just turned in 30 keys and got absolutely nothing useful. They screwed this up big time. Nobody wants these new traits on end game gear. . Bad RNG is still Bad RNG, even if you buff the overall drop rate. Just give us trait change already!!!
  • Apocalypse1981
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    Yah those 2 traits dont make sense for end game
  • code65536
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    I posted about this three weeks ago.

    Oh, and in addition to adding Prosperous and Training, they also removed Impenetrable from the chests, which, frankly, is a demonstration of egregiously poor judgment at ZOS.
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  • Cinbri
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    1st gold key - heavy sturdy dwemer shoulder.
    2nd gold key - light sturdy dwemer shoulder
    3rd gold key - heavy sturdy kena shoulder.
    ^^^Pure luck.
  • flguy147ub17_ESO
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    Is impen still not in the chests? I think they were removed on the PTS. If that is the case i wont ever do undaunted pledges anymore, less people doing them equals harder to find groups. Make group finder even worse. I am on PS4 so i cant test it.
    Edited by flguy147ub17_ESO on May 31, 2016 7:53PM
  • Azurya
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    save your keys for the next dlc
    that is the remedy
  • mistermacintosh
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    Lame. Hopefully this wasn't intentional...
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  • NativeJoe
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    PSH whatever guys! Prosperous Trait it totally useful!

    Crafting myself a full set... which will cost 300k, + enchants.... factor in repairs over 3 months...and I should break even by the next DLC! IF I can farm mobs 4 hours every day.
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  • The_Rooster24
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    ZOS you removed arguably one of the most used traits from undaunted chests only to add traits that will never see use. I hope you all are happy because you are horrible at this.
  • Nemeliom
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    Isn't training trait useful for Champion Points?
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  • SteveCampsOut
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    I don't know what all the whining is about. I'd love to be able to craft a whole set of Prosperous for PVE!
    Edited by SteveCampsOut on May 31, 2016 8:11PM
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    Nemeliom wrote: »
    Isn't training trait useful for Champion Points?
    If you need champion points which a lot of endgame players don't as they are already at the cap which ZOS still hasn't raised.

  • The_Rooster24
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    Nemeliom wrote: »
    Isn't training trait useful for Champion Points?

    No one is saying the traits don't have a place. They do. On low level or farming toons. Not on highly rng based endgame gear.
  • idk
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    Yah those 2 traits dont make sense for end game

    Have you not seen the new meta. It's training until max CP then prosperous on all 6 pieces and well-fitted on 1.

    Check out the new meta at meta.org.
  • khele23eb17_ESO
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    Training while questing and doing easier dungeons makes sense to me.
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  • ZoM_Head
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    Shoulder pieces = Divines or Impen

    Head Pieces = Infused or Impen

    Weapons = Precise or Sharpened

    That is basically what everyone wants and should use end game pve and pvp (in a nutshell) depending on your build.

    I am having no real issues in vet sanctum tanking with infused/divines, no need for sturdy really (my opinion).
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  • Psyonico
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    Nemeliom wrote: »
    Isn't training trait useful for Champion Points?
    If you need champion points which a lot of endgame players don't as they are already at the cap which ZOS still hasn't raised.

    So...
    Because some people won't use it, nobody should have it?
  • Joy_Division
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    Psyonico wrote: »
    Nemeliom wrote: »
    Isn't training trait useful for Champion Points?
    If you need champion points which a lot of endgame players don't as they are already at the cap which ZOS still hasn't raised.

    So...
    Because some people won't use it, nobody should have it?

    No.

    Because the vast majority of people get frustrated enough with it to seek other games, it should not take precedence over another trait that is best in slot for PvP.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • The_Rooster24
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    ZoM_Head wrote: »
    Shoulder pieces = Divines or Impen

    Head Pieces = Infused or Impen

    Weapons = Precise or Sharpened

    That is basically what everyone wants and should use end game pve and pvp (in a nutshell) depending on your build.

    I am having no real issues in vet sanctum tanking with infused/divines, no need for sturdy really (my opinion).

    Head pieces should come I'm divines as well most good pve players use either infused or divines, but I think more, including myself, lean towards divines.
  • The_Rooster24
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    Psyonico wrote: »
    Nemeliom wrote: »
    Isn't training trait useful for Champion Points?
    If you need champion points which a lot of endgame players don't as they are already at the cap which ZOS still hasn't raised.

    So...
    Because some people won't use it, nobody should have it?

    No what he is saying is if you are grinding cp you A. Don't need undaunted items to do so
    B. Once you get the cp that item becomes useless
    C. If you are not at least cp 160 you shouldn't even use your keys.
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