ESO is frustrating!

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

Vampire Blood:
I need to save this Nord King with a vial of Vampire blood.
I have to go to some Vamp I helped before, to get this vial.
Ain't MY vampire blood not good enough?

Speaking of vampire: ESO treats me, a Vampire, as if it is the normalst of things.
Exquise me?

Missions and my Heroism are not rewarding!!!
Exp: I am Veteran now, but the non-Enlightened CP and Exp gain is simply ridiculously low.
Not to mention Quest rewards being utterly unrewarding (always green items, and this for a Veteran that drove of a Daedra deity??)

Loot:
Someone, when I posted about this, told me, that once one became Veteran, loot was getting better.
Well, I can tell you the very opposite: They drop either white or green, VERY, VERY rarely a blue item which have no value or are good for deconstruction, drop amounts of gold I had as level 10 as well, mostly they drop nada.

Thieves Troves:
I do not expect uber loot from them, but 60% of these drop maps, or a green/blue item.

ZoS, you SERIOUSLY need to get your act together, and make the game rewarding.
If it wasn't for the good people in my Guild, I would not even be able to pay repairs!!!
And I'm not joking.

Fix this, for crying out loud.

JKorr · May 2016

Do writs. You get gold for writs, the higher the writ, the higher the gold.

Decon those "crappy" rewards and sell the tempers and mats.

The loot system could be improved, but barring the ridiculously expensive motifs and gold tempers, I have enough gold to keep 8 characters in full repair, buy extra tempers for crafting gear for my guildmates, and with a little saving, work on getting more of the motifs That I don't yet have. Waiting for Akaviri to drop to just outrageously expensive instead of unbelievably expensive....

Lenikus · May 2016

The game kinda is rewarding if you make good use of all the things you get.. people literally make hundreds of thousands on weekly basis;

And I'm fairly sure they mention in that quest that you needed a specific kind of Vampire blood... you are a scion of Lamae yourself , not the same kind of vampire as those ferals / wild ancient ones.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

Lenikus wrote: »

The game kinda is rewarding if you make good use of all the things you get.. people literally make hundreds of thousands on weekly basis;

And I'm fairly sure they mention in that quest that you needed a specific kind of Vampire blood... you are a scion of Lamae yourself , not the same kind of vampire as those ferals / wild ancient ones.

Well, please enlighten me how they do this.
As for mats: these are partially donated to the guild, and partially put up for sale.
But no one seems interested in my offers.
Dungeons: I put myself up for them, but after hours of waiting (questing and the lot) I still haven't entered one.
I gave up after a while.

But the point is, that 'drops' and 'rewards' are beyond cheap.
Specifically if you're veteran.

JKorr · May 2016

You need the guilds that have trader kiosks. If your guild doesn't have a kiosk, you' are selling only to your guild.

Nestor · May 2016

For Dungeons, join a guild, you will find more people to run dungeons with. Everyone queues as a DPS so that takes a long time to get a group with the group finder.

As for loot, Blues and Purples are rare drops, but they come. Blues and Purples are supposed to be rare, just yesterday, I looted a 100 items and got 3 Purples, 15 Blues and 10 Intricates, the rest whites and greens. This is typical.

You get Blue drops from Main Quest (zone and story and Guild main quests), dungeon bosses and mobs. Purples are just RNG for the most part, but do drop from Vet Dungeon Bosses.

GreenhaloX · May 2016

Remember Skyrim when you're a vampire and everyone attacks you on sight. Does it happens same on ESO when you're a vampire?

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

Blue from quests?
I keep getting green, blue is VERY rare.
But it is not just the loot/reward, it's the whole.
Exp/CP/Rewards.

I feel cheated by the NPC's!!!

b92303008rwb17_ESO · May 2016

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Vampire Blood:
I need to save this Nord King with a vial of Vampire blood.
I have to go to some Vamp I helped before, to get this vial.
Ain't MY vampire blood not good enough?

Speaking of vampire: ESO treats me, a Vampire, as if it is the normalst of things.
Exquise me?

Missions and my Heroism are not rewarding!!!
Exp: I am Veteran now, but the non-Enlightened CP and Exp gain is simply ridiculously low.
Not to mention Quest rewards being utterly unrewarding (always green items, and this for a Veteran that drove of a Daedra deity??)

Loot:
Someone, when I posted about this, told me, that once one became Veteran, loot was getting better.
Well, I can tell you the very opposite: They drop either white or green, VERY, VERY rarely a blue item which have no value or are good for deconstruction, drop amounts of gold I had as level 10 as well, mostly they drop nada.

Thieves Troves:
I do not expect uber loot from them, but 60% of these drop maps, or a green/blue item.

ZoS, you SERIOUSLY need to get your act together, and make the game rewarding.
If it wasn't for the good people in my Guild, I would not even be able to pay repairs!!!
And I'm not joking.

Fix this, for crying out loud.

If your main complain is you can't enough money, then SERIOUSLY, L2P. That is the only word that comes to my mind when I see you can't even afford repair money. Simply by doing missions and selling those crap green and grey items can earn you more than enough money to do most of stuff in this game. I have no idea where this kind of whining comes from.

therobster104_ESO · May 2016

I have none of these issues but I did get the super ultra rare collectors edition.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

Not resurrecting: this came back by another topic of me:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/267550/immortal-guards-need-a-boost/p1
and is directly tied to it, hence this post.

As stated, questing is FAR too unrewarding.
People revert to THIEVING to make money (NOT speaking of trading!) as base income.
How on Tamriel can this be???

Thieving for 30 minutes is FAR more rewarding that questing for 3 hours, and has absolutely no danger/costs (like repairs/pots/drinks/foods).

ZoS, you REALLY need to fix this, ASAP...
It is a dead simple fact: questing is NOT rewarding.

Drakoleon · May 2016

Loots and rewards are completely CRAP in this game. Zos acts like they are paying those rewards from their pockets. Am pretty sure that they are not play their own game otherways they would have fixed it

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

Yes, I agree.
But fact is: stealing is FAR more rewarding than questing is, which makes me question the entire game...

Tommy1979AtWar · May 2016

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Remember Skyrim when you're a vampire and everyone attacks you on sight. Does it happens same on ESO when you're a vampire?

Nah, ESO vampires are as scary as the stupid sparkly ones in that movie where that miserable chick had to choose between a labrador and tinkerbell.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Remember Skyrim when you're a vampire and everyone attacks you on sight. Does it happens same on ESO when you're a vampire?

Nah, ESO vampires are as scary as the stupid sparkly ones in that movie where that miserable chick had to choose between a labrador and tinkerbell.

Muaahahahahahahah!
Good one!

rootimus · May 2016

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Vampire Blood:
I need to save this Nord King with a vial of Vampire blood.
I have to go to some Vamp I helped before, to get this vial.
Ain't MY vampire blood not good enough?

Speaking of vampire: ESO treats me, a Vampire, as if it is the normalst of things.
Exquise me?

Missions and my Heroism are not rewarding!!!
Exp: I am Veteran now, but the non-Enlightened CP and Exp gain is simply ridiculously low.
Not to mention Quest rewards being utterly unrewarding (always green items, and this for a Veteran that drove of a Daedra deity??)

Loot:
Someone, when I posted about this, told me, that once one became Veteran, loot was getting better.
Well, I can tell you the very opposite: They drop either white or green, VERY, VERY rarely a blue item which have no value or are good for deconstruction, drop amounts of gold I had as level 10 as well, mostly they drop nada.

Thieves Troves:
I do not expect uber loot from them, but 60% of these drop maps, or a green/blue item.

ZoS, you SERIOUSLY need to get your act together, and make the game rewarding.
If it wasn't for the good people in my Guild, I would not even be able to pay repairs!!!
And I'm not joking.

Fix this, for crying out loud.

newtinmpls · May 2016

b92303008rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Simply by doing missions and selling those crap green and grey items can earn you more than enough money to do most of stuff in this game. I have no idea where this kind of whining comes from.

Um as a compulsive deconn-er I have to say that just running around, selling not much and only occasionally to guild stores (I'm also a hoarder, and a packrat), I do have enough to fix my armor and keep things in fairly good repair.

Granted, after 2+ years on two accounts I'm still at about 100 slots for inventory and 110 for bank (couldn't really afford to do much with that)

but I can definitely fix my armor. I even bought the in-game 10k horse on both accounts.

GivvumBoane · May 2016

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Remember Skyrim when you're a vampire and everyone attacks you on sight. Does it happens same on ESO when you're a vampire?

Nah, ESO vampires are as scary as the stupid sparkly ones in that movie where that miserable chick had to choose between a labrador and tinkerbell.

But then again, after the dawn guard expansion, you only get attacked if you transform in view of someone else. Nobody would acknowledge you were a vampire.

SanSan · May 2016

" but 60% of these drop maps"
If that was true i would be rolling in maps....

susmitds · May 2016

SanSan wrote: »

" but 60% of these drop maps"
If that was true i would be rolling in maps....

I am already rolling with maps.

starkerealm · May 2016

GivvumBoane wrote: »

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Remember Skyrim when you're a vampire and everyone attacks you on sight. Does it happens same on ESO when you're a vampire?

Nah, ESO vampires are as scary as the stupid sparkly ones in that movie where that miserable chick had to choose between a labrador and tinkerbell.

But then again, after the dawn guard expansion, you only get attacked if you transform in view of someone else. Nobody would acknowledge you were a vampire.

That's not completely true, a few NPCs could tell, and would have dialog.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

newtinmpls wrote: »

b92303008rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Simply by doing missions and selling those crap green and grey items can earn you more than enough money to do most of stuff in this game. I have no idea where this kind of whining comes from.

Um as a compulsive deconn-er I have to say that just running around, selling not much and only occasionally to guild stores (I'm also a hoarder, and a packrat), I do have enough to fix my armor and keep things in fairly good repair.

Granted, after 2+ years on two accounts I'm still at about 100 slots for inventory and 110 for bank (couldn't really afford to do much with that)

but I can definitely fix my armor. I even bought the in-game 10k horse on both accounts.

Let me again say, i do not take trading into account.
Pure the game's system without the surpluses.

If we see the base game rewards... they suck beyond believe.
Hell, as stated, thieving is FAR more lucrative: 30 mins of stealing cannot even get CLOSE in rewards for 3 hours of questing, and has NO risk/cost at all.
Excuse me?
Explain that logic please?

SanSan wrote: »

" but 60% of these drop maps"
If that was true i would be rolling in maps....

Funny that you say that, I AM.

susmitds wrote: »

SanSan wrote: »

" but 60% of these drop maps"
If that was true i would be rolling in maps....

I am already rolling with maps.

Yeah, me too...
I had 4 mules packed with them, deleted these.

starkerealm wrote: »

GivvumBoane wrote: »

Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Remember Skyrim when you're a vampire and everyone attacks you on sight. Does it happens same on ESO when you're a vampire?

Nah, ESO vampires are as scary as the stupid sparkly ones in that movie where that miserable chick had to choose between a labrador and tinkerbell.

But then again, after the dawn guard expansion, you only get attacked if you transform in view of someone else. Nobody would acknowledge you were a vampire.

That's not completely true, a few NPCs could tell, and would have dialog.

OMG, NOOOO, THAT FIXED IT ALL.

But not really, is it?

ArchMikem · May 2016

Yes, it is very frustrating. But personally not for much of the reasons you listed, mainly cause my experiences are not applicable with yours such as Vampirism and Thieves Guild.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

ZoS, you SERIOUSLY need to get your act together, and make the game rewarding.
If it wasn't for the good people in my Guild, I would not even be able to pay repairs!!!
And I'm not joking.

Really? I mean yeah I don't have hundreds of thousands of Gold but I'm not poor either. Enhance your inventory and just pick up EVERYTHING you find while grinding and questing, then sell it all when you fill up. The Gold will build up as you go. After questing my way up to Vet 1 I was sitting at around 60k before going on a spending spree.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

ArchMikem wrote: »

Yes, it is very frustrating. But personally not for much of the reasons you listed, mainly cause my experiences are not applicable with yours such as Vampirism and Thieves Guild.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

ZoS, you SERIOUSLY need to get your act together, and make the game rewarding.
If it wasn't for the good people in my Guild, I would not even be able to pay repairs!!!
And I'm not joking.

Really? I mean yeah I don't have hundreds of thousands of Gold but I'm not poor either. Enhance your inventory and just pick up EVERYTHING you find while grinding and questing, then sell it all when you fill up. The Gold will build up as you go. After questing my way up to Vet 1 I was sitting at around 60k before going on a spending spree.

I am, actually.
Now, I donate all my mats to my Guilds, so these are not sold by me, the rest is so poor in quality, a full inventory does not even net 2K...
But that's not the point, is it.
Questing ITSELF (thus bringing quests in) is totally unrewarding, considering you are a hero.
Hero's need to live too you know...

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

Let's stick to simple facts:
Trading is THE best income: DUUUUUUUH....
But I said I will not speak of this here, since economy is a seperate part of the game, player controled.

Thieving is extremely lucrative: DUUUUUUH...
The Guards are complete morons, blind as a bat, and completely incompetent, hence my boost guards post.

Questing: I cannot think of a game where questing was SO badly payed off in rewards.
It gives moronic amounts of gold, the items given are beyond ludicrous, the Exp/CP are totally neglectable UNLESS Enlightenment is active.
Questing is the lowest of all types of income (again, NOT speaking of trading, trading has no place in this topic).
Frankly, the reward system is virtually non-existent.

An idea I had was: kill off Enlightenment completely, and revamp the reward system, so my hero feels appreciated finally.
Right now, he's treated upon like LESS than some sodding erand boy, seeing what he has to go through and who some quest givers are!!!
Saving a queen: 100 gold and a green item?
SCREW THAT.

Bonzodog01 · May 2016

See, I quest because I actually like the storyline. I will sit there and listen to everything they have to say.

I will ask all the possible questions, and it can be fun to run the quests on more than one character, because so many of the quests have multiple outcomes, and exploring the different outcomes can change things up a bit.

Plus, for me, questing beats the hell out of grinding for earning XP. Currently running Cadwells Gold on my primary char, and its proving to be very interesting. And SO many skill points.

As for quest rewards, I use them for levelling crafting or sell them. Always craft your own gear or find a guildie who will do it for you.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

See, I quest because I actually like the storyline. I will sit there and listen to everything they have to say.

I will ask all the possible questions, and it can be fun to run the quests on more than one character, because so many of the quests have multiple outcomes, and exploring the different outcomes can change things up a bit.

Plus, for me, questing beats the hell out of grinding for earning XP. Currently running Cadwells Gold on my primary char, and its proving to be very interesting. And SO many skill points.

As for quest rewards, I use them for levelling crafting or sell them. Always craft your own gear or find a guildie who will do it for you.

I am enjoying the story as well, but, if I go to help a farmer find his pig, and get rewarded as much as for saving a queen, then I am starting to become angry.
That's just not right, you know...

It's immersion breaking for me to a point where I begin to think to delete the game...

Alurria · May 2016

Here have a cookie...it's not that bad

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

It is... but thank you for the cookie.

LadyNalcarya · May 2016

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

See, I quest because I actually like the storyline. I will sit there and listen to everything they have to say.

I will ask all the possible questions, and it can be fun to run the quests on more than one character, because so many of the quests have multiple outcomes, and exploring the different outcomes can change things up a bit.

Plus, for me, questing beats the hell out of grinding for earning XP. Currently running Cadwells Gold on my primary char, and its proving to be very interesting. And SO many skill points.

As for quest rewards, I use them for levelling crafting or sell them. Always craft your own gear or find a guildie who will do it for you.

I am enjoying the story as well, but, if I go to help a farmer find his pig, and get rewarded as much as for saving a queen, then I am starting to become angry.
That's just not right, you know...

It's immersion breaking for me to a point where I begin to think to delete the game...

But its just a game... No way a game could be 100% realistic.
For example, in Morrowind citizens do not sleep and mostly have the same dialogue topics, but still Morrowind is considered to be the most immersive TES game by many fans.
Or Oblivion, where contrabandists hide 0 gold items (brooms and such) in their stashes.
And large part of immersion is your imagination. Cause in any rpg, even real-life ones, you'd need to ignore some things like these.

me_ming · May 2016

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Let's stick to simple facts:
Trading is THE best income: DUUUUUUUH....
But I said I will not speak of this here, since economy is a seperate part of the game, player controled.

Thieving is extremely lucrative: DUUUUUUH...
The Guards are complete morons, blind as a bat, and completely incompetent, hence my boost guards post.

Questing: I cannot think of a game where questing was SO badly payed off in rewards.
It gives moronic amounts of gold, the items given are beyond ludicrous, the Exp/CP are totally neglectable UNLESS Enlightenment is active.
Questing is the lowest of all types of income (again, NOT speaking of trading, trading has no place in this topic).
Frankly, the reward system is virtually non-existent.

An idea I had was: kill off Enlightenment completely, and revamp the reward system, so my hero feels appreciated finally.
Right now, he's treated upon like LESS than some sodding erand boy, seeing what he has to go through and who some quest givers are!!!
Saving a queen: 100 gold and a green item?
SCREW THAT.

Then don't quest. That's it. No one is forcing you to do the quests. Rewards from quests were never ever any good. Everyone was well aware of that, has always been like that since beta. Questing is more for immersion, if you wanted to get better rewards then L2P (ie if you want to get better gear/weapons, learn-to-craft or learn-to-do-vet-dungeons). Get a guild to run dungeons with you. Don't expect everything to be handed to you just because you did one quest. lol.