93 VMSA Runs & 0 Staves

Ch4mpTW

I've run VMSA now 93 times. My 93rd being the one I did before deciding to make this post, and I've gotten not a single staff. Not a single: Restoration staff, ice staff, lightning staff, or inferno staff. None. So besides having to put-up this lag fest and buggy mechanics, as well as this annoyingly-long content, I have to say that I've been rewarded with not a single damn staff. Not one.

So thank you, developers of Elder Scrolls One: Tamriel Unlimited. Seriously. Thank you. Thank you for rewarding me with not a damn thing for my: Endurance, patience, and persistence. Thank you. Thank you for showing how a person who has dedicated weeks of their time that they can never get back for clearing one of two hardest forms of PVE content, and not feel rewarded by it. Thank you. Thank you for adding insult to injury for not testing the arena either, and forcing us (the player base) to put up with the crap, if we want to receive what you've made best-in-slot gear behind a paywall. Thank you. I really feel appreciated as a: Beta tester, person who've bought this game on two platforms, and overall consumer to your franchise. I really feel valued, and feel as though I'm being rewarded for my hard work. So here's a nice and warm thank you to everyone who's involved with drop-rates. Thank you. I really mean it. =\

Anhedonie

HAHA LOOSER


well, ESO is notorious for having ridiculous RNG layers.



P.S. I hope you'll get that staff soon.

DannyLV702

I got every singe weapon, and with ideal traits, in less than 10 runs

Vaoh

93 runs.... omg!

I dont know how you put yourself through that. It's basically torture!

Good luck on getting the Staff you want. If it makes you feel better, a Destro Staff has not yet dropped for me either.

Septimus_Magna

I completed vMA once and never set foot there again, its so demotivating to fight by yourself for hours to be disappointed at the end.

Its an MMO, why the hell would they want to stimulate a tedious long solo grind?

imenace

did it about 85 times and i got all the staves in sharpened, ofc i dont need any of them bcuz i dislike magicka builds, atm i need any sort of 2h sharp wep.. atm i have 5 defending axes and 1 precise maul, i think if i dont get a sharp 2h by the time db goes live i will just craft morkuldin 3 piece and say *** it

Smileybones

Ch4mpTW

Smileybones wrote: »

Um... I'm kinda confused by that pic. Could you elaborate a bit?

Also, I completed another run before bed... Received yet another precise Maelstrom bow. Time to deconstruct that one as well... Sigh.

DRXHarbinger

^ least you've got a bountiful supply of dwemer frame. I feel for you though. That's almost as bad as mine. I've had 1 destro and been on leaderboards at least 3 times ever week since Jan. Plus countless runs. Sometimes 5 daily for several weeks.

Smileybones

The wheel doesn't have an end but the hamster isn't aware and keep running, every day.

People have noticed this and keep designing new wheels for hamsters.

What make them run ? The wheel is shiny ? They hope to see the end of the wheel ?

I wish I could make them hamsters aware of the wheel ripoff but they are so cute and funny at the same time.

Also I don't speak their language unfortunately, they ignore me and keep running in the wheel, everyday.

Poor little fellows !

Ch4mpTW

Smileybones wrote: »

The wheel doesn't have an end but the hamster isn't aware and keep running, every day.

People have noticed this and keep designing new wheels for hamsters.

What make them run ? The wheel is shiny ? They hope to see the end of the wheel ?

I wish I could make them hamsters aware of the wheel ripoff but they are so cute and funny at the same time.

Also I don't speak their language unfortunately, they ignore me and keep running in the wheel, everyday.

Poor little fellows !

Oh, I understand now. Very clever of you. And yeah, I feel a bit like a hamster on the wheel, when doing VMSA.

It's kinda F'd up too, because few people can complete Maelstrom Arena as is on veteran difficulty. And for me to have the endurance and patience to keep at it for so long, and receive nothing that I seek... It kinda makes me wonder why I am even bothering with this game anymore...

I mean, I believe in working toward things and EARNING things... But, this... This arena... It is pure luck, from the time you face your first mob, to when you open up the last chest. Every single bit of it is RNG. Will you be unlucky and lag, and have your perfect run and score thrashed? Or even worse; have the game crash on you. It's all chance and luck. And it's not like we haven't been complaining constantly to Zenimax about the high amounts of RNG, but it feels as though we speak to deaf ears.

Why Zenimax? Why are you constantly hurting your player base with this bs, and constantly push the RNG beliefs you all have? Can't you tell many of us are at our wits end with it? Do you NOT see the numerous threads rising? But oh, let there be an exploit going on that involves the economy. You'll shut s*** down, and fix that right on up if it gets enough attention. But, the core issues of things happening in PVP, and PVE, you just ignore for months on end. Why? Why are you selling a pipe dream to players like me, who genuinely believe that things will get better and that we will be rewarded for our persistence, and answer our requests with more RNG and bs? Why!?

SlayerTheDragon

I can think of 93 better things to have done with your time...

Ch4mpTW

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

I can think of 93 better things to have done with your time...

Ugh... Tell me about it... I feel like the biggest fool... Not to mention it takes me on average an hour to an hour and forty-five minutes per run. . .

Ichnaea

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

I can think of 93 better things to have done with your time...

Ugh... Tell me about it... I feel like the biggest fool... Not to mention it takes me on average an hour to an hour and forty-five minutes per run. . .

Sorry my friend, but I think it's time to leave. You'll thank yourself later, trust me. Just be sure to give all your stuff to Nick Carter. I hear he loves this game.

Jhunn

Have you tried offering your body to the RNG gods?

Ichnaea

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I've run VMSA now 93 times. My 93rd being the one I did before deciding to make this post, and I've gotten not a single staff. Not a single: Restoration staff, ice staff, lightning staff, or inferno staff. None. So besides having to put-up this lag fest and buggy mechanics, as well as this annoyingly-long content, I have to say that I've been rewarded with not a single damn staff. Not one.

So thank you, developers of Elder Scrolls One: Tamriel Unlimited. Seriously. Thank you. Thank you for rewarding me with not a damn thing for my: Endurance, patience, and persistence. Thank you. Thank you for showing how a person who has dedicated weeks of their time that they can never get back for clearing one of two hardest forms of PVE content, and not feel rewarded by it. Thank you. Thank you for adding insult to injury for not testing the arena either, and forcing us (the player base) to put up with the crap, if we want to receive what you've made best-in-slot gear behind a paywall. Thank you. I really feel appreciated as a: Beta tester, person who've bought this game on two platforms, and overall consumer to your franchise. I really feel valued, and feel as though I'm being rewarded for my hard work. So here's a nice and warm thank you to everyone who's involved with drop-rates. Thank you. I really mean it. =\

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/257777/new-crown-store-items

you could always do this^

ZO$ loves gating things behind money.

JamieAubrey

I can't even get past the first wave lol

Cously

Need a token system asap, do VMA 10 times get enough to buy desired weapon with desired traits, etc. That allows people to both earn and guarantee item of their choice. Who the f*** want to pay for content where the chances to get desired item may never happen in their lifetime.

Shader_Shibes

DannyLV702 wrote: »

I got every singe weapon, and with ideal traits, in less than 10 runs

LadyNalcarya

I agree, this is absolutely insane.
I can see how some amount of rng can encourage people to play more, but Zos went way too far with it. And I'm really worried about vMA drops after the TG patch. The weapons will be available in all traits, so getting a useful weapon will be even harder than now...

Neophyte

Sell vmsa weapons in cyro vendor, just like the monster helms.

Arthg

Kingbawsack wrote: »

Sell vmsa weapons in cyro vendor, just like the monster helms.

NO.
I haven't completed the arena (am currently trying to) but NO.
Not everything should be for sale.

OP - I feel for you.
Some sort of arrangement with the RNGods should be found.Don't know what else to say

Jaronking

Dam @Ch4mpTW you really have bad luck in this game.

Ch4mpTW

Jaronking wrote: »

Dam @Ch4mpTW you really have bad luck in this game.

You have no idea. Lol. I often find myself nowadays wondering if I'm secretly dealing with the RNG of Mario Kart 8 on 200 CC, or if I'm dealing with the RNG of Destiny. All I know is that my "luck" in this game is atrocious.

Did you know I had to run VWGT well over 200 times for a single damn Molag Kena helmet (which dropped as medium and in well-fitted)?

Jaronking

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Dam @Ch4mpTW you really have bad luck in this game.

You have no idea. Lol. I often find myself nowadays wondering if I'm secretly dealing with the RNG of Mario Kart 8 on 200 CC, or if I'm dealing with the RNG of Destiny. All I know is that my "luck" in this game is atrocious.

Did you know I had to run VWGT well over 200 times for a single damn Molag Kena helmet (which dropped as medium and in well-fitted)?

Actually Yes I do I remember the thread.The RNG in this game is just bad.Its a reason why I hate doing Dungeons when I know I don't have a chance at realistically getting a helm drop.

Hey at least you finished VetMA am still trying to beat it with my Stamblade and its not going well.Lol

mtwiggz

DannyLV702 wrote: »

I got every singe weapon, and with ideal traits, in less than 10 runs

I hate you.

Nifty2g

DannyLV702 wrote: »

I got every singe weapon, and with ideal traits, in less than 10 runs

You'd need to run it more than 10 times to get every single weapon

Cuyler

Make a vMA weapon merchant inside the arena, where we can trade in 20-30 weapons we don't want for the one we do. After completing 20-30 vMA runs one deserves to be rewarded for their effort and skill with at least one weapon they find useful.

For a stamina build this would equate to roughly 60-90 runs to get the ideal 2 DW weapons and back bar weapon (bow or 2h). 90 runs is 90 hours. Some people don't even have 90 hours of total playtime.

Whatever that ratio is, find it and implement it before you make people work through this entire game just to inevitably get frustrated and quit, spreading bad PR to all their friends of the horror stories.

You guys always ask for feedback about, "does the loot feel rewarding" @ZOS_Finn @Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert, well you have your feedback in multiple threads. NO, vMA does not feel rewarding and quite frankly makes those players wonder why they even play this game (aka quit). The bugs don't help either.

Nifty2g

Cuyler wrote: »

Make a vMA weapon merchant inside the arena, where we can trade in 20-30 weapons we don't want for the one we do. After completing 20-30 vMA runs one deserves to be rewarded for their effort and skill with something they find useful.

You guys always ask for feedback about, "does the loot feel rewarding" @ZOS_Finn @Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert, well you have your feedback in multiple threads. NO, vMA does not feel rewarding and quite frankly is making many of your commited players wonder why they even play this game (aka quit).

Maelstrom doesn't make people quit, but it sure makes people question why they purchased the content. Solo arena is fine but at this caliber I have never enjoyed it. The initial clear was quite fun but farming it or playing it competitive isn't exactly enjoyable and the competitive side of it has dropped significantly since people got their weapons.

I think it was just hit and miss content, and majority of the player base does not want play solo like this, there aren't many end game players that want this challenging content over lets say a duo arena, which I still believe this arena would be perfect for.

Cuyler

Nifty2g wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

Make a vMA weapon merchant inside the arena, where we can trade in 20-30 weapons we don't want for the one we do. After completing 20-30 vMA runs one deserves to be rewarded for their effort and skill with something they find useful.

You guys always ask for feedback about, "does the loot feel rewarding" @ZOS_Finn @Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert, well you have your feedback in multiple threads. NO, vMA does not feel rewarding and quite frankly is making many of your commited players wonder why they even play this game (aka quit).

Maelstrom doesn't make people quit, but it sure makes people question why they purchased the content. Solo arena is fine but at this caliber I have never enjoyed it. The initial clear was quite fun but farming it or playing it competitive isn't exactly enjoyable and the competitive side of it has dropped significantly since people got their weapons.

I think it was just hit and miss content, and majority of the player base does not want play solo like this, there aren't many end game players that want this challenging content over lets say a duo arena, which I still believe this arena would be perfect for.

Yup agreed on the duo arena. It does make ppl quit though. I know a few that have packed their bags because they put in close to 100 vMA runs and never got what they were looking for. And as they left, they made sure to let everyone know how they felt. Misery loves company, and it spread like a virus. It makes those they talk to wonder why they play the game.

lardvader

I think that everyone who is able to complete vMSA deserves their weapons, but it seems like a bad idea putting them there in the first place. It creates a "need" since it's there.

IMHO vMSA should maybe just be about copletion, scores and titles.

However since the MSA weapons do exists I think ZOS should come up with a better reward system as proposed on this forum in several threads and polls.

I would like some of these weapons myself and I might have a chance when DB lands and removal of veteran ranks. I won't try 93 times though