I'm so tired of being a goodie-goodie...

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

Bring us an Evil DLC, something truly evil, mad, sadistic...
Being a hero is SO incredibly BORING.

Hero... a man being on the wrong spot, at the wrong time, doing something idiotic... and getting away with it.
Bah.
I'd love to chew this hero's head of, and play soccer with it.

Lord_Draevan

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Bring us an Evil DLC, something truly evil, mad, sadistic....

That'd be the Dark Brotherhood DLC, where you murder innocents for fun and gold.
Coming out in a few weeks!

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

Dude... that is NOT evil, it's being silly.
Apparently, you do not know the ways of TRUE EVIL..
I could make the "eviliststst" daedra shame and tremble...
THAT is evil... the terror within gnawing at your very soul....

Rohamad_Ali

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Dude... that is NOT evil, it's being silly.
Apparently, you do not know the ways of TRUE EVIL..
I could make the "eviliststst" daedra shame and tremble...
THAT is evil... the terror within gnawing at your very soul....

Perhaps you could make a suggestion as to what exactly a truly evil DLC would incorporate . Enlighten us a bit to your idea .

Lord_Draevan

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Dude... that is NOT evil, it's being silly.
Apparently, you do not know the ways of TRUE EVIL..
I could make the "eviliststst" daedra shame and tremble...
THAT is evil... the terror within gnawing at your very soul....

Perhaps you could make a suggestion as to what exactly a truly evil DLC would incorporate . Enlighten us a bit to your idea .

I have a feeling it's gonna be a wee bit edgy...

NateAssassin

I want to be an edgy emo with a skeleton arm, and I want to be able to cry tears of blood and eat limps off my victims

FerrumnCutem

Sah dude, sounds real dope.
I need this.
I hate that you have to help EVERYONE ALL THE TIME. Always with the goodies. When do we get to burn down some villages like a true warlord.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

Hmmmm...

I'll try:
Before I begin, let me tell you, that I am a role player.
Been that since I was 16, and we're thirty years passed this point.
My most favored RP would be Earthdawn, by FASA corp, but since this is quite unknown, I revert to Warhammer non-40K, pen and paper version.
Most I believe, might know this universe a wee bit.

Realms of Chaos.
Chaos Gods:
Khorne: Dark God of War and Blood.
Nurgle: Dark God of Pestilence and Disease.
Tzeentch: Dark God of Sorcery and Change.
Slaneesh: Dark God of Pain and Suffering.
Malal, now, this is a fun one: this is the one who embodies Chaos' tendency to turn in upon itself and who acts against the interests of the other Chaos Gods whenever he can.
Of all chaos Gods, he's the rebel.

Setting: try to imagine the most ugly, torturous, evil looking, burned but living still surroundings.
Here, the Chaos Gods rule, fight the other to gain the upper hand.
Dark, sick, misformed, stinking to the worst rot and maddened creatures try to gain their God's favor by battling for him or her.
Every so often, one does something that indeed catch the eye of the God they try to please, and be rewarded with a "gift", often something like a third octopus arm, or extra large horns to pin opponents up, shaking then around like a hankerchief.
This battlefield, it has no boundaries, no taboos, no rules.
The only rules that exist, is the boundary of your own sick, perverted mind...

Now, I used Warhammer to make a point, I am fairly familiar with this world and it's lore, sadly, I am far more known with ED, but as said, I don't think may would know it.
Lets move to ESO, and replace the Dark Gods with Daedra, Daemons, and the likes.
The battle setting would be much like discribed before, a bloody, gory, never ending feast of agony, pain, mutilation, and the likes.
Forests burned to crisp, but yet alive.
No creature dwells there, save for the souls battling to gain it's master's favor.
This realm is both hot and cold at the same time,super humid and heavy whilst extremely dry, a forest, yet a desert, a plane with it's own rules, where it can rain from ground to sky.

In comes the Anti-Hero.
His 'task': to gain and hold the thrones of all Daedra.
Not just through battle, but wits, cunning, manipulation, tools most have, but not really use.
Where each choice can be the key to a continuity... or utter doom...
Where choice are irreversible, life or -nooooo, not death, screw death, what's the fun in that?- everlasting suffering, mentally, emotional and physical torture, all at the same time, on the verge of going insane, never leaving that crucial edge to going nuts and not bother anymore...

Idea would be that the character can make choices to become the 'ultimate' evil, and so 'conquer' the Daedra thrones.
Basically, ESO, but turned upside down.

Moonscythe

FerrumnCutem wrote: »

Sah dude, sounds real dope.
I need this.
I hate that you have to help EVERYONE ALL THE TIME. Always with the goodies. When do we get to burn down some villages like a true warlord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5b7duWzDeQ

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

FerrumnCutem wrote: »

Sah dude, sounds real dope.
I need this.
I hate that you have to help EVERYONE ALL THE TIME. Always with the goodies. When do we get to burn down some villages like a true warlord.

Well, we already basically do so, we slaughter towns of enemies, Deadra on their on plane, we kill World Bosses and not break (much) of a sweat.
Exquisitely.... BORING...

I'd like to turn the people upon their own, and finally themselves.
They'd be a mere passenger, on a ride controlled by the purest of evil, not able to act or speak, just to hear, see and taste.

I'd like to see a new level of absolute evil.

"For I became in the blackest of Black.
My soul so dark, it absorbs the light of existence.
I am the essence of Hell incarnated..."

milkbox

Step 1: make guards kill-able.

Saoirse_Siobhan

Ugh it's so annoying, I have an evil character, and I basically can't do most quests.
"Please help me! I lost-"
"NO!"
*pulls out sword and attempts to remove their head from their tiny corps*
*sword doesn't obey*
Arggggh!
And I wish I could murder Stuga!
One quest I did do because it involved a lot of killing (even if they were just skeletons), but at the end the only way I could finish the quest and get the reward, was if I clicked on "Thank you" Like the well brought up child my master did NOT teach me to be.
Ah well, maybe with DB...

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

milkbox wrote: »

Step 1: make guards kill-able.

Ummm... guards?
On the Daedra planes?

What have I missed here?

TheWhiteDarkness wrote: »

Ugh it's so annoying, I have an evil character, and I basically can't do most quests.
"Please help me! I lost-"
"NO!"
*pulls out sword and attempts to remove their head from their tiny corps*
*sword doesn't obey*
Arggggh!
And I wish I could murder Stuga!
One quest I did do because it involved a lot of killing (even if they were just skeletons), but at the end the only way I could finish the quest and get the reward, was if I clicked on "Thank you" Like the well brought up child my master did NOT teach me to be.
Ah well, maybe with DB...

Indeed, there simply is no choice.
Well, not one that matters.
It all runs the same course, whether we like it or not.

TheWhiteDarkness wrote: »

Please help me! I lost-"
"NO!"
*pulls out sword and attempts to remove their head from their tiny corps*

Hmmm, is killing someone evil?
Sure, it's hardly nice, but evil?
I'm sure, you can do better than that? :P

Saoirse_Siobhan

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

TheWhiteDarkness wrote: »

Please help me! I lost-"
"NO!"
*pulls out sword and attempts to remove their head from their tiny corps*

Hmmm, is killing someone evil?
Sure, it's hardly nice, but evil?
I'm sure, you can do better than that? :P

Yes my evil character has begun to lose his faith in evil, nobody seems to care if he kills anyone or threatens them with eternal damnation, they just get irritated and walk away, and sometimes he can't even kill them for there impertinence! He prays to the great Molag Bal, but even he does not seem to listen. It seems that Evil has not turned out the way he thought it would So he has been reduced to declining the endless requests for help and trying to stab anyone he can.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

You pray to that weakling?
No wonder then...

But I so do understand your frustration, your pain, your anger, your sadness, I can almost taste it.
Such sweet feelings these are...

To the point however:
If you had other possibilities than just killing them, which in fact is a GOOD deed (ending their suffering and all that), would you still revert to slashing off ones head?
Not me.

But, this too is aside the point, i think.
Where were we?
Ah, right:
The lack of evil disturbs me.
There's this Daedra, all acting cute and fuzzy, leaving me baffled and flabbergasted for the lack of what he should be.
Aren't these Daedra to be Dark Gods?
Yet, I see no darkness.
Most... annoying...

milkbox

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

milkbox wrote: »

Step 1: make guards kill-able.

Ummm... guards?
On the Daedra planes?

What have I missed here?

My mistake. I thought you were talking about introducing evil into the game we're all actually playing.

Carry on.

Saoirse_Siobhan

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Aren't these Daedra to be Dark Gods?
Yet, I see no darkness.
Most... annoying...

Well he would pray to Morgoth, but he has been removed from that world.
My evil character is Gothmog Valarauko, the great Balrog Lord of the First Age (Yes I am a LOTR nut) reincarnated into the flesh of a puny Argonian Dragonknight.

(Still looks badass though!)

KingYogi415

Arya Stark is ready to assassinate so many people for the Dark Brotherhood, it's going to be a bloodbath!

Rohamad_Ali

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Hmmmm...

I'll try:
Before I begin, let me tell you, that I am a role player.
Been that since I was 16, and we're thirty years passed this point.
My most favored RP would be Earthdawn, by FASA corp, but since this is quite unknown, I revert to Warhammer non-40K, pen and paper version.
Most I believe, might know this universe a wee bit.

Realms of Chaos.
Chaos Gods:
Khorne: Dark God of War and Blood.
Nurgle: Dark God of Pestilence and Disease.
Tzeentch: Dark God of Sorcery and Change.
Slaneesh: Dark God of Pain and Suffering.
Malal, now, this is a fun one: this is the one who embodies Chaos' tendency to turn in upon itself and who acts against the interests of the other Chaos Gods whenever he can.
Of all chaos Gods, he's the rebel.

Setting: try to imagine the most ugly, torturous, evil looking, burned but living still surroundings.
Here, the Chaos Gods rule, fight the other to gain the upper hand.
Dark, sick, misformed, stinking to the worst rot and maddened creatures try to gain their God's favor by battling for him or her.
Every so often, one does something that indeed catch the eye of the God they try to please, and be rewarded with a "gift", often something like a third octopus arm, or extra large horns to pin opponents up, shaking then around like a hankerchief.
This battlefield, it has no boundaries, no taboos, no rules.
The only rules that exist, is the boundary of your own sick, perverted mind...

Now, I used Warhammer to make a point, I am fairly familiar with this world and it's lore, sadly, I am far more known with ED, but as said, I don't think may would know it.
Lets move to ESO, and replace the Dark Gods with Daedra, Daemons, and the likes.
The battle setting would be much like discribed before, a bloody, gory, never ending feast of agony, pain, mutilation, and the likes.
Forests burned to crisp, but yet alive.
No creature dwells there, save for the souls battling to gain it's master's favor.
This realm is both hot and cold at the same time,super humid and heavy whilst extremely dry, a forest, yet a desert, a plane with it's own rules, where it can rain from ground to sky.

In comes the Anti-Hero.
His 'task': to gain and hold the thrones of all Daedra.
Not just through battle, but wits, cunning, manipulation, tools most have, but not really use.
Where each choice can be the key to a continuity... or utter doom...
Where choice are irreversible, life or -nooooo, not death, screw death, what's the fun in that?- everlasting suffering, mentally, emotional and physical torture, all at the same time, on the verge of going insane, never leaving that crucial edge to going nuts and not bother anymore...

Idea would be that the character can make choices to become the 'ultimate' evil, and so 'conquer' the Daedra thrones.
Basically, ESO, but turned upside down.

Cool . Did you play the original Warhammer pen and paper RPG ? I met those dudes that made it in 1992 at GenCon in Wisconsin . Some good writers and very "evil" .

FortheloveofKrist

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

You pray to that weakling?
No wonder then...

But I so do understand your frustration, your pain, your anger, your sadness, I can almost taste it.
Such sweet feelings these are...

To the point however:
If you had other possibilities than just killing them, which in fact is a GOOD deed (ending their suffering and all that), would you still revert to slashing off ones head?
Not me.

But, this too is aside the point, i think.
Where were we?
Ah, right:
The lack of evil disturbs me.
There's this Daedra, all acting cute and fuzzy, leaving me baffled and flabbergasted for the lack of what he should be.
Aren't these Daedra to be Dark Gods?
Yet, I see no darkness.
Most... annoying...

You are either trolling or you are asking ZoS to appeal to your perverse desires to see people truly suffer. What do you want them to do, make a new crafting station for creating snuff films? Make torture a new skill line? I don't get what your point is, other than you have preoccupation with the suffering of others, which should probably be discussed with a therapist and not the forum community.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

It could be implemented "fairly easy", but we all know how easy easy really is, of course.

One could make a Role Play server, an open world, where one could create "Vampire/Werewolf slayer Guilds", and have the ability to play "as they please".
Naturally, there has to be rules: It is not allowed to grief someone, in any form.
Like such.

But a world wherein you, being X, can live your life.
Where you could if so you desire (and could... NOT!), feed on entire villages.
Naturally, the NPC's would be quite a handful to kill, and players, well... that would be depending on themselves.
One could add a few things to make the world a more 'by evil ravaged' surrounding, adding to immersion.

The voices, for one...
Here I am, a Khajiit Vampire, I should be able to roar like a lion, but all that comes out, is not even a 'meow'.
What gives?
In combat, he sounds like a highly pregnant butterfly...
Seriously?
Vampires should fear people, this NPC whatever bumps into me, looks a me, and goes like: "AAaah, how cuuuute, a little 'fampire'. couli couli couli" while she pinches his cheek...

Yes, that was EXACTLY what I was looking for...
But, not actually...

In fact, entirely not so much...

Rohamad_Ali

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

You pray to that weakling?
No wonder then...

But I so do understand your frustration, your pain, your anger, your sadness, I can almost taste it.
Such sweet feelings these are...

To the point however:
If you had other possibilities than just killing them, which in fact is a GOOD deed (ending their suffering and all that), would you still revert to slashing off ones head?
Not me.

But, this too is aside the point, i think.
Where were we?
Ah, right:
The lack of evil disturbs me.
There's this Daedra, all acting cute and fuzzy, leaving me baffled and flabbergasted for the lack of what he should be.
Aren't these Daedra to be Dark Gods?
Yet, I see no darkness.
Most... annoying...

You are either trolling or you are asking ZoS to appeal to your perverse desires to see people truly suffer. What do you want them to do, make a new crafting station for creating snuff films? Make torture a new skill line? I don't get what your point is, other than you have preoccupation with the suffering of others, which should probably be discussed with a therapist and not the forum community.

Relax . Everyone petitions for what they like in this "game" . He's not asking for real people to suffer . He just like dark stuff . To each their own . I'm not really into it but I'm not gonna bash him for sharing a thought .

Lenikus

So you want to murder NPCs just for funzies. You can do that.
You expect to be a 'real, recognized part of the story' on a Multiplayer game? stick to roleplaying.

More than that, Skyrim mods are still there.

Rohamad_Ali

I'm fairly certain Stephen King doesn't wish horrible nightmarish murders on people but he still writes about it . As long as it doesn't break any code of conduct or disturb the TOS ( remember op we have nice kids that play here too ) , then it's within his rights to ask for something he thinks is cool .

That said , I highly doubt the team here will allow anything lore breaking . The new Dark Brotherhood is by my guess as Dark as ESO TU will probably get .

Saoirse_Siobhan

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

In combat, he sounds like a highly pregnant butterfly...

OMG this?! LOL

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

You are either trolling or you are asking ZoS to appeal to your perverse desires to see people truly suffer. What do you want them to do, make a new crafting station for creating snuff films? Make torture a new skill line? I don't get what your point is, other than you have preoccupation with the suffering of others, which should probably be discussed with a therapist and not the forum community.

OOOOOOH, new skill line, meesa like!
Very good idea, meesa suggests!
VERY grateful!

But, see, I do not quite get why you are upset by the idea.
I'm a Black Metal Punk Catholic (go figure), I live a decent life, never been in jail nor caught.
But, as with all people, I have a dark side.
Do not tell me you're free of that darkness, my friend.

Now, I, and I only speak for myself here, would like to "give in" into this darkness.

Perverse?
Well, I absolutely did not meant to bring in perversity, nothing sexual, but I like to be evil in a world where the surrounding acts on this evil.

I mean, come on...
It's OK to be a Vampire?
It's bloody cute to be that WW pup?
This is... just... wrong...

I'd like the game to respond on my actual actions.
Interaction.
Now, who would do better than... other players?

WalkingLegacy

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I'm fairly certain Stephen King doesn't wish horrible nightmarish murders on people but he still writes about it . As long as it doesn't break any code of conduct or disturb the TOS ( remember op we have nice kids that play here too ) , then it's within his rights to ask for something he thinks is cool .

That said , I highly doubt the team here will allow anything lore breaking . The new Dark Brotherhood is by my guess as Dark as ESO TU will probably get .

Game is rated M.

Let's keep the kids on their games and keep them off the adult games please.

Saoirse_Siobhan

Wasn't planning to make a truly evil character, but when I saw this "hairstyle" for Argonians :

(not the best pic but you get the idea, and not my character btw)
it reminded me of the balrog in LOTR, so yeah made a character like that, but wasn't about to play him all sweetie-pie and rainbow farts.
He's evil through and through!

LadyNalcarya

Well, in previous TES titles you end up as a great hero anyway... Even if you're in DB and TG and have killed half of the country's population. There are some interesting mods, like Chaos Heart for Morrowind (it a Russian mod though, not sure if its available in other languages. Basically it allows the player to join House Dagoth and changes gameplay drastically), but in general we're still saving the world.
And there's not that many video games where you play as a "dark side" character, and mostly they're parodies, like this or this one. Maybe you've played this one already, but if you havent, I strongly recommend it. That's one of the most immersive PC RPGs imo. And here's another interesting "dark side" game... Dark Souls is another really immersive dark fantasy game, but probably you wont like it.

Tryxus

Well you could always ask ZOS to add more "dark" stuff to the DB update:

- Blood
- Gore/Dismemberment
- Skimpy armors for women
- Foul language and/or F Bombs
- Heavy Metal Soundtrack
- Dahaka chases
- ...

Wait, why did I come up with this list? o.o

LadyNalcarya

Tryxus wrote: »

- Dahaka chases
- ...