what have i done wrong?

henrycupcakerwb17_ESO

so there's a rule being a templar i have to spec into repentance instead of radiant aura ?
that dude is not even making any sense and i get called a [Snip] and got kicked



[Edited for censor bypass and to remove names]

JubJub

You need better group mates bud.

Mojmir

wow,5 minutes alone.that's all I need with him.

Johngo0036

I dont understand what his issue is,

If he is in need of healing the healer will heal him,
If he is in need of stamina there are other ways of getting stamina,

Repentance is not the only frigging skill that templars can use to give both health and stam back to team mates...

what an idiot...not you the guy who thinks he knows everything about healing.. what would he have done if you were not a templar healer...

LOLZ

RedRoomGaming

They are just but hurt that they cannot sustain. IMO change to repentance for future dungeons and anyone that cannot sustain themselves that much went for all out power and no regen.

KingYogi415

As a healer you should spend half your time buffing a quarter healing and a quarter doing DPS.

It's the healers that really do the carrying and this guy was mad he couldn't be carried.

I find repentance a waste of slot a lot of the time and if shards is not providing enough stamina for you tank they are trash.

repentance is to situational and provides no dps. purifying light or combat prayer easily take its spot.

Sharee

Put that guy on your ignore list. That way the group finder will no longer try to put him into the groups you play in.

Haquor

Is this even allowed? Putting his name on the forums?

Either way everyone is in control of thier own experience. If he asked for repentence before inviting you and you said you hadd it and then didnt whenu were in group... so be it.

Ibe started plenty of pugs where people aay they know the dungeon well before i invite. Then ask for boss mechanics or dps with heavy resto attacks.

2 sides to every story i suppose

henrycupcakerwb17_ESO

Johngo0036 wrote: »

I dont understand what his issue is,

If he is in need of healing the healer will heal him,
If he is in need of stamina there are other ways of getting stamina,

Repentance is not the only frigging skill that templars can use to give both health and stam back to team mates...

what an idiot...not you the guy who thinks he knows everything about healing.. what would he have done if you were not a templar healer...

LOLZ

thats why i was clueless since radiant aura gives 80% stamina regeneration after activated

henrycupcakerwb17_ESO

Sharee wrote: »

Put that guy on your ignore list. That way the group finder will no longer try to put him into the groups you play in.

thanks, i didn't know it works that way, since some games like heroes of the storm you often got team up with the people you placed on ignore list, that was helpful

dday3six

To be fair Repentence is hands down the better skill.

kadar

Noob, depends on Repentance for Stam.

#SiphoningStrikesForDayz

dday3six

The_Outsider wrote: »

Noob, depends on Repentance for Stam.

#SiphoningStrikesForDayz

It no longer works on DOTs so it's not near as effective. That part of TG was actually a very harsh on Stamina NB sustain.

Buffler

People that rely on templar for sustainability *** me right off......own your on resource management you tired bums!

I'll keep you alive and 9 times out of 10 i'll out dps you to.....i had a guy who told me to use repentance as he couldnt be bothered to synergise my shards I was throwing down lol

dday3six

Buffler wrote: »

People that rely on templar for sustainability *** me right off......own your on resource management you tired bums!

I'll keep you alive and 9 times out of 10 i'll out dps you to.....i had a guy who told me to use repentance as he couldnt be bothered to synergise my shards I was throwing down lol

For the record unless you have 5pc Alkosh it's a DPS loss to synergize Shards. From a DPS output prospective Repentance vs Shards without 5pc Alkosh, Repentance is better if available.

Manpoints

I dont know who that handsome lady is in the screenshot, but understand it from a vets point of view, sometimes, we're forced into using LFG - Most avoid it when possible. Why? Because its a system in which ESO forces noobs and oldies into the same group in order for the experienced players to carry the noobs through content, its why there's the 100k random vet to entice us.

The problem with this is the skill disparity between players who have been around for 2 years, and the new blood coming through, that ratio is leaning more to new blood every day but the game, and ZOS offers no support or training for new players other than forcing them in with vets and hoping the vets teach. What compounds it is the latest patch notes of the upcoming DB content and the nerfs thrown across the board because apparently its easier to push content down to the level of new players, than providing the support, knowledge and opportunity for new players to step up to match community standards.

If you want a constructive solution to the issue, get ZOS to put some in game vet training or some more build assistance, because as much as people might have advertised this game as 'play it how you want' I doubt very highly end game players, the dying breed would agree heavy armor 2h dps is going to make it through VICP.

*edit* Or in the case of a lowbie vet healer, springs alone just wont cut it in a fast moving group

Zyle

Manpoints wrote: »

I dont know who that handsome lady is in the screenshot, but understand it from a vets point of view, sometimes, we're forced into using LFG - Most avoid it when possible. Why? Because its a system in which ESO forces noobs and oldies into the same group in order for the experienced players to carry the noobs through content, its why there's the 100k random vet to entice us.

The problem with this is the skill disparity between players who have been around for 2 years, and the new blood coming through, that ratio is leaning more to new blood every day but the game, and ZOS offers no support or training for new players other than forcing them in with vets and hoping the vets teach. What compounds it is the latest patch notes of the upcoming DB content and the nerfs thrown across the board because apparently its easier to push content down to the level of new players, than providing the support, knowledge and opportunity for new players to step up to match community standards.

If you want a constructive solution to the issue, get ZOS to put some in game vet training or some more build assistance, because as much as people might have advertised this game as 'play it how you want' I doubt very highly end game players, the dying breed would agree heavy armor 2h dps is going to make it through VICP.

*edit* Or in the case of a lowbie vet healer, springs alone just wont cut it in a fast moving group

What does that have to do with you raging because the healer didn't have repentance?

Drungly

Manpoints wrote: »

I dont know who that handsome lady is in the screenshot, but understand it from a vets point of view, sometimes, we're forced into using LFG - Most avoid it when possible.

*looks at signature*

Womanpoints - DK

runagate

What have you done wrong?

You did call yourself clueless early in this thread. I'd change that word to "baffled."

FortheloveofKrist

Manpoints wrote: »

I dont know who that handsome lady...

So by the looks of the pic and your signature, you're the raging c*** in this scenario? Nice temper tantrum......bro.

Pallio

Repentance is basically the best skill in the game for a healer, the other morph is ok in solo but is the same as tri pot regen.

jbcrocks

Manpoints wrote: »

I dont know who that handsome lady is in the screenshot, but understand it from a vets point of view, sometimes, we're forced into using LFG - Most avoid it when possible. Why? Because its a system in which ESO forces noobs and oldies into the same group in order for the experienced players to carry the noobs through content, its why there's the 100k random vet to entice us.

The problem with this is the skill disparity between players who have been around for 2 years, and the new blood coming through, that ratio is leaning more to new blood every day but the game, and ZOS offers no support or training for new players other than forcing them in with vets and hoping the vets teach. What compounds it is the latest patch notes of the upcoming DB content and the nerfs thrown across the board because apparently its easier to push content down to the level of new players, than providing the support, knowledge and opportunity for new players to step up to match community standards.

If you want a constructive solution to the issue, get ZOS to put some in game vet training or some more build assistance, because as much as people might have advertised this game as 'play it how you want' I doubt very highly end game players, the dying breed would agree heavy armor 2h dps is going to make it through VICP.

*edit* Or in the case of a lowbie vet healer, springs alone just wont cut it in a fast moving group

I'm sorry but it's your fault for choosing to queue for a dungeon so just accept his heals instead of accept his shards if he doesn't have repentance.

Rune_Relic

wow. what an arse. Personally I would be too ashamed to come on this thread and try to defend myself if I acted like that.

This is what I keep saying about hardcore players do nothing except destroy communities until games are dead.
This being a prime example.
They are a disease.
Nothing more and nothing less.

I just hope they enjoy the toxic world they created when all the decent people have left.

Krist

One thing I always say, the "elites" are so elite they need everyone on the team to carry them. They always NEED the best healers, NEED the best resourcers, NEED the best tanks...NEED.....NEED.....NEED.

When you think about it....they aren't elite, they just want to surround themselves with elites. If you cannot manage your own resources, for crying out loud, you are not very good at what you do. Just play with your guild members that pat you on the back and carry you all the time, making YOU feel like YOU are really good.
The proof is always in the pudding, and this guys pudding stinks. Sometimes, chocolate pudding...aint puddin.

Buffler

I happily run anybody through any dungeon, even if they've never done it I will explain mechanics and let them learn themselves. If im in a hurry I wont pug just guildies. I never pug WGT or ICP.

failkiwib16_ESO

OP wow what a hidious person, set him/ her on ignore and save yourself from meeting again. Repentance is the better morph, but you shouldn't feel forced to slot it in any way, and Radiant Aura has it's benefits over Repentance.

Rune_Relic wrote: »

wow. what an arse. Personally I would be too ashamed to come on this thread and try to defend myself if I acted like that.

This is what I keep saying about hardcore players do nothing except destroy communities until games are dead.
This being a prime example.
They are a disease.
Nothing more and nothing less.

I just hope they enjoy the toxic world they created when all the decent people have left.

..nothing really indicates that the person is a hardcore player, just that the person have a really bad attitude along with expectations and entitlement that isn't being fulfilled.

Thanks for being honest about your opinion I guess

Lithium Flower

Using abusive language, name calling and player harassment is never acceptable. Period.

That said if you are trying to do hard endgame dungeons especially with people who are unfamiliar with your constraints and limitations aka not your buddies, it's your responsibility to have skills leveled up at least to where they can be morphed to provide the required utility, have proper gear and be familiar with mechanics if you haven't done it before.

Being a healer means much much more than 'healing', you are the fuel source for everyone else. Tanks needs repentance because stamina regeneration doesn't work while you're blocking and you will be blocking quite a bit in a dungeon like veteran City of Ash.

A healer looking for group activity should understand their role is to provide support and resources, if you can't do that properly, improve your game and not expect other people to adapt to your limitations - why should they?

People will be happy to group with people who will make their runs easier not harder. Be the former not the latter.

That said, sorry you had to face abuse, that wasn't right.

Azzuria

Same kind of chappeau du derrier that told me only Templars can be healers and scoffed at my mad Nightblade healing skillz.

There will always be morons who will always see FotM = Only Way to Play.

They are the minority and, frankly, ripe for mockery.

Morbash

What did you do wrong? You lied. Based on the convo in the screenshot, you said you had Repentance when you didn't. Of course that doesn't excuse the other party's behavior, but hey, you asked.

Also, Repentance is the better morph in a vast majority of situations. The resource return on that skill is much better for ALL the players in your group. And here's why: If the people in your group are built correctly, they're most likely built purely with damage in mind. This means their recoveries will be quite low. Radiant Aura gives a 20% increase to all you and your teammates recoveries. That doesn't help your teammates very much in this situation, especially considering they can get this same exact buff (which does not stack) from a potion. A percentage increase of a small number yields a small number. With Repentance giving around 3,000 - 5,000+ hp and stam per corpse, I think a clear winner between these two skills can be easily determined.

susmitds

There are some things some lowpokes won't understand. Adjusting and try to be self-sufficient and be lesser of an issue for the rest of the group.
There are always these noobs who blame others every time they die. If you run of stamina on a regular basis, then get better regen and cost reduction. Personally, good players have every backup they need in case things go south. In case I am very low on health in a group dungeon, I won't wait for the healer to heal me. Instead I will just heal myself. If the healer heals me, it is a bonus for me. In case the tank is failing, I can hold aggro as well.
I am not saying that healers, tanks or damage dealers should bunk their roles. I am saying that there has to be a group dynamic and if you have a problem with somebody's build, then make the extra effort to counter it. You can depend on others but at the end, you need to be able to carry your own weight. And I am confident that every good player out there will say the same. (By you, I don't the OP, but players in general)

Whenever you meet some of these wannabe-elites, link them the videos of people soloing the dungeons and watch them burn.

Lithium Flower

The thing is end game content is about specialisation and efficiency. Sure you can have more regen and more defence and also tank a bit and heal a bit but that's pretty inefficient compared to a team of four specialists each doing their job properly.

You have to adapt for the good of the group. Not having the right group play build, having morphs and skills slotted that don't fit your role, not knowing mechanics and not making an effort to learn them. These are all bad habits that will make you unwelcome in the group. You want people to say 'great dps mate' or 'great support, didn't run out of magicka at all' or 'great tanking' and be happy with you and want to play with you. If you aren't getting that feedback, there's something you're doing wrong and you can look into improving. And there are plenty of resources from which to learn.

If you are a healer and asking dps or tank: why should I slot x skill because your build lacks y then you also better ask that if the dps are slotting self heals and regens and then are also expected to do damage and kill things, what are you bringing to the group? Why should they run with you? Why not bring a healer who is happy to help them succeed rather than an added weight? You're being kicked out because running with you is so painful they'd rather quit or wait until they find someone else.

Don't be such a dead weight.

If a football player shows up to play and tells his coach, sorry I didn't bring my football shoes but I have a chocolates for everyone. People will kick him off the team. And he isn't entitled to feeling sorry for himself.

Humatiel

Lithium Flower wrote: »

The thing is end game content is about specialisation and efficiency. Sure you can have more regen and more defence and also tank a bit and heal a bit but that's pretty inefficient compared to a team of four specialists each doing their job properly.

You have to adapt for the good of the group. Not having the right group play build, having morphs and skills slotted that don't fit your role, not knowing mechanics and not making an effort to learn them. These are all bad habits that will make you unwelcome in the group. You want people to say 'great dps mate' or 'great support, didn't run out of magicka at all' or 'great tanking' and be happy with you and want to play with you. If you aren't getting that feedback, there's something you're doing wrong and you can look into improving. And there are plenty of resources from which to learn.

If you are a healer and asking dps or tank: why should I slot x skill because your build lacks y then you also better ask that if the dps are slotting self heals and regens and then are also expected to do damage and kill things, what are you bringing to the group? Why should they run with you? Why not bring a healer who is happy to help them succeed rather than an added weight? You're being kicked out because running with you is so painful they'd rather quit or wait until they find someone else.

Don't be such a dead weight.

If a football player shows up to play and tells his coach, sorry I didn't bring my football shoes but I have a chocolates for everyone. People will kick him off the team. And he isn't entitled to feeling sorry for himself.

Jesus thank you, was about to rage a bit at the tides of carebears but this is a beautiful answer.

OP: Play as you want is great, right up until others depend on your playing. I realize your new and I imagine this is probably the first time this type of situation has happened, use this moment to say "what can I do better" and begin looking about guilds to join with a PvE focus / guides etc.

Wreuntzylla

Mojmir wrote: »

wow,5 minutes alone.that's all I need with him.

I'll take the blame. Where do you want to meet for your 5min?