Hide Vampirism

Mashille

I know this has probably been brought up before but it would be really nice if there was an option to hide my look of Vamprism, or at least allow it to stay looking like stage 1.

Stage 4 is really ugly and makes my character look awful.

flguy147ub17_ESO

You mean you don't like looking like a cracked out Joker?

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Wear helmet...solved. You chose to be a vamp, deal with it.

GreenSoup2HoT

This should not be available. Sorry but being a vampire means looking like one.

HOWEVER

Stage 1 vampire looks nice. So we need Zos to step up their game and make some incentive to be stage 1. As well as making it less of a pain to maintain stage 1.

Runs

Any stage looks like crap if you are a pure(or should I say where one before vampirism) black Khajiit. I can understand skin turning pale... but fur?

TheShadowScout

Like I mentioned elsewhere on that matter...

It is quite evident that -some- vampires can indeed pass for mortal under certain circumstances. Could Ravenwatch did it when we first met him, remember? So... there should be -something- that allows player vamps to do the same. Perhaps with some severe limitations... like... say... a toggle that reduces vampire appereance level by one, at he price of taking up a skill slot? Which would then keep you looking mortal as long as you kept at stage 1...

And of course, in addition to that there would need to be some better stage control way. Either an option to "gorge yourself" through multiple feedings at stage 1, each extending the duration for another 30 minutes... or some "blood potion" that is filled much in the way of soul gems - have an empty alchemically treated vial in your inventory, feed while at stage 1 already, and it fills the vial, fill as many as you like, drink later to count as one feeding... that sort of thing.

Those two together would make a nice in-character way for vampires to live the happy daily life. Of course, I'd also want to see the city guards going "stake-on-sight" on any vampire who lets the beast hang out so to speak, and goes stage-4 under their noses...

BomblePants

Runs wrote: »

Any stage looks like crap if you are a pure(or should I say where one before vampirism) black Khajiit. I can understand skin turning pale... but fur?

Omg.... got a pic?

clayandaudrey_ESO

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Wear helmet...solved. You chose to be a vamp, deal with it.

This or deal with it.

7788b14_ESO

Plus if you go by vampire lore. Dracula was a day walker, shapeshifter, and could change his appearance at will. So there should at least be an appearance potion or a trip to a stylist to alter appearances.

But you can add that to the list. During stories NPC's don't recognize you as a vampire or a werewolf (when in wolf form) and often ask you to help stamp them out.

Nyx2

clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Wear helmet...solved. You chose to be a vamp, deal with it.

This or deal with it.

Some people on this forum need to learn how to make constructive criticism. "I don't care about your issue" is not one of those. When the game taunts you with things like this (Count Ravenwatch being able to conceal his vampirism) then so should players.

But I already know that cosmetic issues will not be heard here in any way at all. It seems.

nine9six

I have to agree. You made the choice. Have to deal with it.

Runs

BomblePants wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

Any stage looks like crap if you are a pure(or should I say where one before vampirism) black Khajiit. I can understand skin turning pale... but fur?

Omg.... got a pic?

I got rid of mine a while ago because of it

But here's MountainHound's pics from his thread.

Daraugh

If the timers were reversed or something that would help. 30 minutes or looking reasonably normal passes by so fast. Compound it by trying to sneak if you aren't a NB or waste invisibility pots when the target you're just about to feast on gets aggro'd by somebody else. The quick timer doesn't lend a sense of urgency as much as it does frustration given the drawbacks that are already part of being a vamp in pve dungeons. @MornaBaine has had a few ideas on re-vamping the line... Hehehe, sorry couldn't help myself with that one...

Lynx7386

Initially, the reasoning behind this was so that opposing players in pvp could identify who or what they were fighting. I dont think that argument holds much weight anymore.

I have no vampire characters, but I gladly support the option for those who do to hide their vampirism. Character appearance means a lot, it's one of the few ways we have of making our characters unique, it should not be infringed upon by simply accessing new skill trees.

This same issue exists with bound armor for the sorceror - it looks terrible, and it's forced onto the player because it is an essential ability. Allow the graphic to be hidden, or make it less intrusive on the player's immersion.


On a side note, I'd like something unique for werewolf players. I think I saw another thread around here about werewolves being able to show glowing yellow eyes when not in werewolf form. Still, though, it should be an option, not a requirement.

WalkingLegacy

You'll never hide from my spear, nightwalker scum!

Sometimes you just have to look inward to find your beauty, Keybaud.

Luigi_Vampa

As long as you still glow like a christmas tree in Cyrodiil I have no objections.

Mashille

@WalkingLegacy

I cut my chest open and looked inside. All I saw was some red stuff.

Anzriel

Nyx2 wrote: »

clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Wear helmet...solved. You chose to be a vamp, deal with it.

This or deal with it.

Some people on this forum need to learn how to make constructive criticism. "I don't care about your issue" is not one of those. When the game taunts you with things like this (Count Ravenwatch being able to conceal his vampirism) then so should players.

But I already know that cosmetic issues will not be heard here in any way at all. It seems.

I've been saying this for quite a while now. These forums are full of kids who can't fathom the possibility that someone may see things a different way than they do, or think something they don't care about is important. Worst part of it all is despite "not caring" they have some kind of burning desire to let everyone know what a hipster they are and post in every thread they "don't care about".

Personally I think it'd be cool to hide the vampirism, but if nothing else making stage 1 having some benefits, and making it easier to maintain would also do wonders as Soup-chan said.

dem0n1k

I think the look of stage 4 vampirism is spot on... it looks sooo hungry

I like the blood potion idea to reduce the stages.

ContraTempo

Kinda surprised vamps don't smoke when out in the sun.

Bookwyrm

I'm for this. I don't necessarily think it should be a toggle like "hide helmet" but I think it should be an option somehow, because vampires should be able to pass as completely human when they're not blood-starved. It's not unheard of in the Elder Scrolls universe, and since so many NPCs already fail to recognize us as vampires or werewolves anyway (even if we shift right in front of them), might as well be able to have a reason why they fail to recognize us as such. Even better if they do react to us being stage 4 "obviously-starving-vamp." Something like "Holy Stendarr! Get away from me foul beast!" and then you have to go feed in order to continue the quest. Not perfect, but better.

Also for the "glowing yellow eye" thing for werewolves. I made a character with yellow eyes with the intent of making her a werewolf, but it would be neat if they glowed (and not all races can have yellow eyes). Of course, it would be even better if they could shift to another color if you choose pack leader or berserker...Maybe pack leader could stay the same (or turn pale blue), but berserker should be glowing red eyes (and black fur, for Sheo's sake!) And maybe they would only glow like that at night/in the dark, so you could pass as normal otherwise.

Edit: Also, for vamps, I don't know if they ever added this, I haven't played my vamp in a while, but vamps should be able to feed from sleeping NPCs without waking them or calling the guard unless they get spotted by another NPC. That's just a given, or it should be.

JamilaRaj

keybaud wrote: »

Stage 4 is really ugly and makes my character look awful.

What is wrong with that? Your character is awful, foul, ungodly bloodsucker. This is Elder Scrolls, a gritty game of orcish brides riding on bears, not Twillight Saga.

phaneub17_ESO

Body markings like tattoos show up through the pale white, so if you find the plain whiteness a boring thing to look at, pick body paint markings when creating your characters.

Xellos77

I like the idea of alchemy potions or perhaps another Lamae Bal quest that gives a sort of Glamour Spell Effect to temporarily hide vampirism appearance. The stages should be reversed too in terms of countdown until advancement to the next stage.

These things would be nice additions for the RPers. I don't much care but for those who are saying "Deal with it", I bet you look fabulous in your stylized gear sets because you like the look. Ergo, back off.

thezeroroomub17_ESO

I agree - there should be a way to make your vamp appear as any other being of their race.

TheDarkShadow

I recently made a thread about this: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/259920/request-a-mortal-skin#latest

KhajiitiLizard

JamilaRaj wrote: »

keybaud wrote: »

Stage 4 is really ugly and makes my character look awful.

What is wrong with that? Your character is awful, foul, ungodly bloodsucker. This is Elder Scrolls, a gritty game of orcish brides riding on bears, not Twillight Saga.

Yeah, vampires should not look like Justin Bieber...

ListerJMC

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Body markings like tattoos show up through the pale white, so if you find the plain whiteness a boring thing to look at, pick body paint markings when creating your characters.

No they don't, body markings fade. My vampire used to have blue face paint and now it's faded to the point where it looks like he's got a slight bruise on his face.

Also, Redguards don't go white. They go purple. That's right, purple. This is the only picture I can find online as an example and it's not as dark as my Redguard but it still shows a dramatic change:



Please, I'm totally ok with the red eye thing and going pale. I just want to go pale based on my original skin colour. Even stage 1 does this to me I can't escape it without covering my character up completely. And then that destroys the point of having to stand-out so people know I'm a vampire, I can make 0% of my character visible with the right armor/keeping my helmet on.

I just can't see any point to standing out this much.

MacCait

I think Stage 4 is perfect. I have a stage 4 Vamp and he looks awesome, like a demon. I never feed. I take no attempt to hide i'm a Vamp. Fire doesn't bother me so bring it on!

However, I think Stage 1 should look more normal. This would offer a choice. If you wish to look normal and hide your Vamp, you NEED to feed and stay at Stage 1. This would be fun and add a dimension to being a vamp.

I agree with Lynx7386 above. I don't think it holds weight any more to show you are a vamp.

A werewolf can be a werewolf and you have no idea until they turn. They look normal.

I don't think all stages of vamp need to look white. Stage 1 could look normal. Its an easy enough change and would add the desire to feed to see your character remain looking normal.

Brrrofski

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

This should not be available. Sorry but being a vampire means looking like one.

HOWEVER

Stage 1 vampire looks nice. So we need Zos to step up their game and make some incentive to be stage 1. As well as making it less of a pain to maintain stage 1.

Sorry, but zos do not need to change a gameplay related feature just to compliment an aesthetic feature.

bloodenragedb14_ESO

Telling vampire players to 'deal with it' is rude and counterproductive, in fact its hard to take such players seriously, seeing as saying such things shows a clear and present lack of knowledge of TES lore.
really the only vampire races ive seen in lore that are always reconized is the morrowind clans, which we have been given no indication that they exist in this era of Tamriellic history, every other bloodline is able to blend in with society, expecially the cyrodillic bloodline, who are difficult to discern even at stage 4 in some cases

now, i think stage 4 is fine as it is, but the other stages. well they need to look as close to as we did at creation as possible, maybe a change in the eyes, but thats it.

as for beast races, they should not change to pure white, its lazy and one of my main points of contention with the way ZOS presents vampires in this game, hell dunmer and altmer, black and yellow skin respectivly, turn white, ive heard redguards turn white too, its lazy, and frankly, irritating.

as for maintaining stage one with the above parameters, perhaps allow us to craft potions of blood, to reduce our stage by 1 each potion
i know when im roleplaying with friends, storylines lasting hours on end, i would love to just take a swig from a flask, and maintain my stage one.