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Auction house please.

  • Paneross
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    No I like the current system as it is.

    I visit the major trading hubs (5 of them) when I am looking for something. If I can't find it in that assortment, it probably isn't available. This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average

    You realize how stupid ''This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average'' sounds ? THIRTY MINUTES TO MAYBE, MAYBE NOT FIND AN ITEM ?! And you find this okay ?


    With an auction house, it would take you 15 seconds and the item would be cheaper ? Where exactly is the downside except less profit for the sellers (when in fact it's going to be more stable profit as stuff will sell faster and more reliably)

    Thank you!
  • Averya_Teira
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    So? Does that mean ESO has to copy every other game? No it doesn't.

    A better searching system is one improvement I can agree is needed.

    Yeah... Let's build cars with three wheels and no wipers because all cars have those, it's copying !

    -_- Really ?
  • Katahdin
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    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    No I like the current system as it is.

    I visit the major trading hubs (5 of them) when I am looking for something. If I can't find it in that assortment, it probably isn't available. This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average

    Yes wasting time is very fun.

    Not everyone is in a rush. I don't need to hunt something down often enough to be a problem. I usually find what I am looking for in 10 minutes or less. I go to the other hubs because I want to find the best price and I very often do find a lower price.

    This system is a lot more competitive than a global AH. Much better than the constant super inflation that a global auction house promotes. The AH and economy in GW2 sucks because of it.

    Just because you're not in a rush doesn't mean everyone isn't. You can still take your time if there was an AH, hell take all day. With a AH you can find the best price right there.

    Yea, the best price of someone shaving 1gold off an already stupidly high price. Slightly less convenient, sure but only if you're lazy.

    Again, no thanks on global AH. System is fine as is. Better competition and just works better as is.
    Beta tester November 2013
  • TheBrownWiener
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    Nope
  • Paneross
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    If system was fine as is there wouldn't be as many ppl as there are asking for a AH of some sorts.
  • GarnetFire17
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    Paneross wrote: »
    no it's because people like it. there are a lot of people invested into these trading guilds. and they aren't going to just toss them to the side. it's an original aspect of games that makes it more socialable enjoyable for those that like to do things other than fight and do fetch quests.

    They could still do trading guilds if they put all the guild traders in one location.

    that would ruin it. make all the spots too equal. like to see maybe a per zone broker you could go to see all the shops in the zone. the trading guilds competing over the goods spots is what makes it fun.
    Edited by GarnetFire17 on April 12, 2016 6:12PM
  • Zerok
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    In the end, it's a question of playtime. If I had more playtime, I wouldn't be bothered as much with the current system. The problem is that I don't. I assume this is the same for the vast majority of players.

    Since game developers should try to appease the majority of players, I feel they should at least try to implement a meta-search function within the game instead of forcing the players to rely on third-party addons and websites.

    Let's face it, everyone would agree with a meta-search function because nobody likes to lose time.
    Zeerok (the sneaky ruffian) - LV50 Bosmer stamblade DPS (AD)
    Gontrand de Bourbon (the greedy aristocrat) - LV50 Breton magsorc tank (DC)
    Augustus Aquilarios (the imperial claimant) - LV50 Imperial stamDK PvP (EP)
    Zeerokk (the AD zealot) - LV50 Altmer magblade PvP (AD)
    Lianna Storm (the inferno maiden) - LV50 Dunmer magDK DPS (EP)
    Fights-With-Khajiit (the gullible faithful) - LV5 Argonian templar (EP)
    Miner'va (the skooma addict) - LV3 Khajiit sorcerer (AD) - chaotic neutral
    Siggy Thorvaldsson (the charismatic baroness) - LV50 Nord stamwarden tank (DC)
  • Leradis
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    NO
  • Katahdin
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    No I like the current system as it is.

    I visit the major trading hubs (5 of them) when I am looking for something. If I can't find it in that assortment, it probably isn't available. This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average

    You realize how stupid ''This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average'' sounds ? THIRTY MINUTES TO MAYBE, MAYBE NOT FIND AN ITEM ?! And you find this okay ?


    With an auction house, it would take you 15 seconds and the item would be cheaper ? Where exactly is the downside except less profit for the sellers (when in fact it's going to be more stable profit as stuff will sell faster and more reliably)

    No guarantee you would find it on a global AH either.

    I logged in yesterday to 45 mails of things I put up for sale the day before on two different stores in two different zones.

    Over 27K gold in less than 24 hours. Sometime it sells in literally minutes after I post it. Seems like people have no problem finding my stuff. Maybe you need a better trading guild
    Edited by Katahdin on April 12, 2016 6:16PM
    Beta tester November 2013
  • Averya_Teira
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    No I like the current system as it is.

    I visit the major trading hubs (5 of them) when I am looking for something. If I can't find it in that assortment, it probably isn't available. This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average

    Yes wasting time is very fun.

    Not everyone is in a rush. I don't need to hunt something down often enough to be a problem. I usually find what I am looking for in 10 minutes or less. I go to the other hubs because I want to find the best price and I very often do find a lower price.

    This system is a lot more competitive than a global AH. Much better than the constant super inflation that a global auction house promotes. The AH and economy in GW2 sucks because of it.

    Just because you're not in a rush doesn't mean everyone isn't. You can still take your time if there was an AH, hell take all day. With a AH you can find the best price right there.

    Yea, the best price of someone shaving 1gold off an already stupidly high price. Slightly less convenient, sure but only if you're lazy.

    Again, no thanks on global AH. System is fine as is. Better competition and just works better as is.

    It has nothing to do with laziness, some of us have limited time to play. If I have 1 or 2 hours to play one night, I will not spend 30 minutes of it looking for an item...and I shouldn't have to.
    Edited by Averya_Teira on April 12, 2016 6:12PM
  • GarnetFire17
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    No I like the current system as it is.

    I visit the major trading hubs (5 of them) when I am looking for something. If I can't find it in that assortment, it probably isn't available. This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average

    Yes wasting time is very fun.

    Not everyone is in a rush. I don't need to hunt something down often enough to be a problem. I usually find what I am looking for in 10 minutes or less. I go to the other hubs because I want to find the best price and I very often do find a lower price.

    This system is a lot more competitive than a global AH. Much better than the constant super inflation that a global auction house promotes. The AH and economy in GW2 sucks because of it.

    Just because you're not in a rush doesn't mean everyone isn't. You can still take your time if there was an AH, hell take all day. With a AH you can find the best price right there.

    Yea, the best price of someone shaving 1gold off an already stupidly high price. Slightly less convenient, sure but only if you're lazy.

    Again, no thanks on global AH. System is fine as is. Better competition and just works better as is.

    It has nothing to do with laziness, some of us have limited time to play. If I have 1 or 2 hours to play one night, I will not spend 30 minutes of it looking for an item...and I shouldn't have to.
    well than play a different game that isn't so time consuming.
    Edited by GarnetFire17 on April 12, 2016 6:14PM
  • Zerok
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    No I like the current system as it is.

    I visit the major trading hubs (5 of them) when I am looking for something. If I can't find it in that assortment, it probably isn't available. This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average

    You realize how stupid ''This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average'' sounds ? THIRTY MINUTES TO MAYBE, MAYBE NOT FIND AN ITEM ?! And you find this okay ?


    With an auction house, it would take you 15 seconds and the item would be cheaper ? Where exactly is the downside except less profit for the sellers (when in fact it's going to be more stable profit as stuff will sell faster and more reliably)

    I logged in yesterday to 45 mails of things I put up for sale 12 hours before on two different stires in two different zones.

    Over 27K gold in less than 24 hours. Sometime it sells in literally minutes after I post it. Seems like people had no problem finding my stuff. Maybe you need a better trading guild
    They would have even less problem finding your stuff with a meta-search function ;)
    Zeerok (the sneaky ruffian) - LV50 Bosmer stamblade DPS (AD)
    Gontrand de Bourbon (the greedy aristocrat) - LV50 Breton magsorc tank (DC)
    Augustus Aquilarios (the imperial claimant) - LV50 Imperial stamDK PvP (EP)
    Zeerokk (the AD zealot) - LV50 Altmer magblade PvP (AD)
    Lianna Storm (the inferno maiden) - LV50 Dunmer magDK DPS (EP)
    Fights-With-Khajiit (the gullible faithful) - LV5 Argonian templar (EP)
    Miner'va (the skooma addict) - LV3 Khajiit sorcerer (AD) - chaotic neutral
    Siggy Thorvaldsson (the charismatic baroness) - LV50 Nord stamwarden tank (DC)
  • Callous2208
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    Paneross wrote: »
    If system was fine as is there wouldn't be as many ppl as there are asking for a AH of some sorts.

    No. And I don't consider a handful of people on the forums every few weeks, a very large contingent of eso's overall population. For every "lol AH's are great," argument you make, I could make a more compelling one on how they're not. Using my experience in all those other games that were listed. I won't though, because there exists a forum search feature and there are other threads about this.
  • Paneross
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    No I like the current system as it is.

    I visit the major trading hubs (5 of them) when I am looking for something. If I can't find it in that assortment, it probably isn't available. This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average

    Yes wasting time is very fun.

    Not everyone is in a rush. I don't need to hunt something down often enough to be a problem. I usually find what I am looking for in 10 minutes or less. I go to the other hubs because I want to find the best price and I very often do find a lower price.

    This system is a lot more competitive than a global AH. Much better than the constant super inflation that a global auction house promotes. The AH and economy in GW2 sucks because of it.

    Just because you're not in a rush doesn't mean everyone isn't. You can still take your time if there was an AH, hell take all day. With a AH you can find the best price right there.

    Yea, the best price of someone shaving 1gold off an already stupidly high price. Slightly less convenient, sure but only if you're lazy.

    Again, no thanks on global AH. System is fine as is. Better competition and just works better as is.

    It has nothing to do with laziness, some of us have limited time to play. If I have 1 or 2 hours to play one night, I will not spend 30 minutes of it looking for an item...and I shouldn't have to.

    Same I play max 2-3 hrs a night. I hate spending 50% of that time just trying to track down items. Tracking down 1 is hard enough. When you're trying to find multiple you're just screwed.
  • GarnetFire17
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    there is an Auction House. That is the name of one of my guilds. I am an officer. We are selling in Stormhold this week. come see us.
    Edited by GarnetFire17 on April 12, 2016 6:18PM
  • nine9six
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    there is an Auction House. That is the name of one of my guilds. I am an officer. We are selling in Stormhold this week. come see us.

    :trollface:
    Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...
  • Katahdin
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    I play 3 to 4 hours a night and I still don't find the current system a problem at all. But then again I don't play the game as a shopping simulator or stock market. Usually when I spend 30 minutes is because I WANT to try and find the lowest price. It becomes a challenge. Most of the time I find what I want in 5 to 10 min if that.
    Edited by Katahdin on April 12, 2016 6:22PM
    Beta tester November 2013
  • Paneross
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    there is an Auction House. That is the name of one of my guilds. I am an officer. We are selling in Stormhold this week. come see us.

    Fail troll
  • TheBrownWiener
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    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Paneross wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    No I like the current system as it is.

    I visit the major trading hubs (5 of them) when I am looking for something. If I can't find it in that assortment, it probably isn't available. This takes me about 30 minutes to do on average

    Yes wasting time is very fun.

    Not everyone is in a rush. I don't need to hunt something down often enough to be a problem. I usually find what I am looking for in 10 minutes or less. I go to the other hubs because I want to find the best price and I very often do find a lower price.

    This system is a lot more competitive than a global AH. Much better than the constant super inflation that a global auction house promotes. The AH and economy in GW2 sucks because of it.

    Just because you're not in a rush doesn't mean everyone isn't. You can still take your time if there was an AH, hell take all day. With a AH you can find the best price right there.

    Yea, the best price of someone shaving 1gold off an already stupidly high price. Slightly less convenient, sure but only if you're lazy.

    Again, no thanks on global AH. System is fine as is. Better competition and just works better as is.

    It has nothing to do with laziness, some of us have limited time to play. If I have 1 or 2 hours to play one night, I will not spend 30 minutes of it looking for an item...and I shouldn't have to.

    Same I play max 2-3 hrs a night. I hate spending 50% of that time just trying to track down items. Tracking down 1 is hard enough. When you're trying to find multiple you're just screwed.

    Oh the drama..
    Boo hoo
  • KallistaBlackheart
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    no auction house.
    do not want, will not work on the server setup they are using.
  • AOECAPS
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    Guild trader system now is dumb on console most of it has to do with the herp a deeps that cant price items 50k perfect roe 45k alloys the over pricing is ridiculous
  • Katahdin
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    AOECAPS wrote: »
    Guild trader system now is dumb on console most of it has to do with the herp a deeps that cant price items 50k perfect roe 45k alloys the over pricing is ridiculous

    A global AH would not make it cheaper. It would make it much easier to price fix.
    Beta tester November 2013
  • Zerok
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    I play 3 to 4 hours a night and I still don't find the current system a problem at all. But then again I don't play the game as a shopping simulator or stock market.
    Katahdin wrote: »
    I play 3 to 4 hours a night and I still don't find the current system a problem at all. But then again I don't play the game as a shopping simulator or stock market. Usually when I spend 30 minutes is because I WANT to try and find the lowest price. It becomes a challenge. Most of the time I find what I want in 5 to 10 min if that.
    Let's say you're looking for a specific set piece, with specific trait and specific level.

    Unless it's listed on the Tamriel trade center (third-party website) and it's still available, it can take you more than 1 hour to find that piece.

    With a meta-search function, it would take a few minutes.

    This time you saved, you can use it to actually play the game instead of "shopping".
    Zeerok (the sneaky ruffian) - LV50 Bosmer stamblade DPS (AD)
    Gontrand de Bourbon (the greedy aristocrat) - LV50 Breton magsorc tank (DC)
    Augustus Aquilarios (the imperial claimant) - LV50 Imperial stamDK PvP (EP)
    Zeerokk (the AD zealot) - LV50 Altmer magblade PvP (AD)
    Lianna Storm (the inferno maiden) - LV50 Dunmer magDK DPS (EP)
    Fights-With-Khajiit (the gullible faithful) - LV5 Argonian templar (EP)
    Miner'va (the skooma addict) - LV3 Khajiit sorcerer (AD) - chaotic neutral
    Siggy Thorvaldsson (the charismatic baroness) - LV50 Nord stamwarden tank (DC)
  • Paneross
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    If the PC users don't want it fine. Give it to consoles. PCs have add ons that help with the terrible system.
  • Zerok
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    Paneross wrote: »
    If the PC users don't want it fine. Give it to consoles. PCs have add ons that help with the terrible system.
    PC has this right now:
    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1245-TamrielTradeCentre.html

    No perfect, but better than nothing I guess.
    Zeerok (the sneaky ruffian) - LV50 Bosmer stamblade DPS (AD)
    Gontrand de Bourbon (the greedy aristocrat) - LV50 Breton magsorc tank (DC)
    Augustus Aquilarios (the imperial claimant) - LV50 Imperial stamDK PvP (EP)
    Zeerokk (the AD zealot) - LV50 Altmer magblade PvP (AD)
    Lianna Storm (the inferno maiden) - LV50 Dunmer magDK DPS (EP)
    Fights-With-Khajiit (the gullible faithful) - LV5 Argonian templar (EP)
    Miner'va (the skooma addict) - LV3 Khajiit sorcerer (AD) - chaotic neutral
    Siggy Thorvaldsson (the charismatic baroness) - LV50 Nord stamwarden tank (DC)
  • Katahdin
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    Zerok wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    I play 3 to 4 hours a night and I still don't find the current system a problem at all. But then again I don't play the game as a shopping simulator or stock market.
    Katahdin wrote: »
    I play 3 to 4 hours a night and I still don't find the current system a problem at all. But then again I don't play the game as a shopping simulator or stock market. Usually when I spend 30 minutes is because I WANT to try and find the lowest price. It becomes a challenge. Most of the time I find what I want in 5 to 10 min if that.
    Let's say you're looking for a specific set piece, with specific trait and specific level.

    Unless it's listed on the Tamriel trade center (third-party website) and it's still available, it can take you more than 1 hour to find that piece.

    With a meta-search function, it would take a few minutes.

    This time you saved, you can use it to actually play the game instead of "shopping".

    If you're looking for something that specific that is a rare combination as it is, you have to expect it to be less available overall. A global AH won't solve that problem.
    Beta tester November 2013
  • Zerok
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Zerok wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    I play 3 to 4 hours a night and I still don't find the current system a problem at all. But then again I don't play the game as a shopping simulator or stock market.
    Katahdin wrote: »
    I play 3 to 4 hours a night and I still don't find the current system a problem at all. But then again I don't play the game as a shopping simulator or stock market. Usually when I spend 30 minutes is because I WANT to try and find the lowest price. It becomes a challenge. Most of the time I find what I want in 5 to 10 min if that.
    Let's say you're looking for a specific set piece, with specific trait and specific level.

    Unless it's listed on the Tamriel trade center (third-party website) and it's still available, it can take you more than 1 hour to find that piece.

    With a meta-search function, it would take a few minutes.

    This time you saved, you can use it to actually play the game instead of "shopping".

    If you're looking for something that specific that is a rare combination as it is, you have to expect it to be less available overall. A global AH won't solve that problem.
    I don't want a global AH, I want a meta-search function that would search all the guild traders.
    Zeerok (the sneaky ruffian) - LV50 Bosmer stamblade DPS (AD)
    Gontrand de Bourbon (the greedy aristocrat) - LV50 Breton magsorc tank (DC)
    Augustus Aquilarios (the imperial claimant) - LV50 Imperial stamDK PvP (EP)
    Zeerokk (the AD zealot) - LV50 Altmer magblade PvP (AD)
    Lianna Storm (the inferno maiden) - LV50 Dunmer magDK DPS (EP)
    Fights-With-Khajiit (the gullible faithful) - LV5 Argonian templar (EP)
    Miner'va (the skooma addict) - LV3 Khajiit sorcerer (AD) - chaotic neutral
    Siggy Thorvaldsson (the charismatic baroness) - LV50 Nord stamwarden tank (DC)
  • GarnetFire17
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    or... just go without the thing that you want but don't want to look for? I am sure that it's something you could find a way to play the game without if the store system bothers you so much.
    Edited by GarnetFire17 on April 12, 2016 6:32PM
  • Callous2208
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    Paneross wrote: »
    If the PC users don't want it fine. Give it to consoles. PCs have add ons that help with the terrible system.

    I would be okay with this, as long as the consolers promise not to cry when their economy is in shambles, all their bids are sniped while they are at work, and AHProGuy22 owns all high end mats and prices them at 100k a pop.
  • OrangeTheCat
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    OP, I applaud your efforts for raising this issue again. This is something that many people wanted (or in lieu of an auction house, better search across trade kiosks functionality, or moving trade kiosks to some centralized area) from the very beginning when the kiosks were first being talked about back in the day. And it is why "trade guilds" became a thing. I think only the "white knights" claim to actually like it. But ZOS is intransigent on this issue. I think the trade kiosks must be some "suits" "baby".
    Edited by OrangeTheCat on April 12, 2016 6:35PM
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