Asking for gold to leave someone alone when they are grinding in IC

Volkodav

Hadan_of_Rift wrote: »

Mic1007 wrote: »

Killing someone over and over and over and then demanding gold from them to stop doing it goes against it. It "causes distress and ruins the other users' experience" which is forbidden by 2.5.

This is what's wrong with society. Getting killed over and over in a video does NOT cause distress. If it does for you get medical help immediately there is something seriously wrong with your mental fortitude and without help you are in for a long life of depression.

Really? Shows that you know nothing about people.They tend to like to use and play what they pay for,..games.Games have always been a way to get away from stress,and if you dont think games can cause stress,it is YOU who need medical help.
Throughout time,people have gambled,..games,.and have killed themselves because of it.So,yes gaming can cause stress.It isnt the losing of money in ESO,its the abillity to be allowed to continue on playing,free of some jack-a-s-s who wont let them alone after being asked to. If you only have so much time to play a game you pay for,and dont want it to be wasted by a player wanting gold to leave you alone,..and quite a bit of gold at that,you're going to be stressed out.
And dont say:
"Urrmmm,..if you dont have the time,dont play."
Derp.

Acharnor

Sounds like a mercenary to me! Totally legit wartime profession. The vikings often got paid to leave territories alone.

FENGRUSH

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

It's not diminishing in the sense of consecutive kills. It's time since last kill for AP. A couple minutes between each kill. Tel var is purely a % of what stones the player has on him at time of death

Lysette

QuebraRegra wrote: »

billybailey1982ub17_ESO wrote: »

So I was in IC grinding on mobs when I found this 1 player constantly killing me over and over again. I asked for him to please stop killing me and to let us grind. He proceeded to tell me to send him 20K gold for each member in my group and only then he would leave us alone. Does this sound like a part of the game that should be allowed to happen? Has this ever happened to anyone else?

Maybe he was grinding AP! If you were in CWC yer already wrong for even being there grinding.

I kinda feel for those that want to explore Cyrodill without the threat of a PVP kill, but it is afterall a PVP zone. Change up yer tactics, I've snuck all over Cyrodill without being spotted (pesky tower NPCS!!).

Yeah and that is kinda fun as well, to sneak around and see how far you will get without to be detected and if you can avoid being killed when you are detected. I see this as challenging stealth gameplay, not really as a threat.

Volkodav

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

The problem here is that "harassment" is a very broad term. You could interpret the ToS to mean that ANYTHING that ticks off another player is harassment. I just jumped you in the sewers, you're angry, suddenly the fun in your game has been ruined. Is it fair to ask ZOS to punish me in this instance?

This extortion issue using game mechanics for ingame currency is not an issue that should be taken out of the game, it should be dealt with by the players in the game. Get protection, or find another grind spot.

I don't agree with the method, as a player, but I see it as fair game in a cutthroat atmosphere like the Imperial Sewers.

Amazing. I would hope that people wouldnt want to let this grow.Eventually,no one will go where this can be done to them.Not IC,and not Cyrodiil.It will only further the bad name of PvPers who do this for their own fun.So,who will they gank if no one ever wants to go there? As to the TV stones,soon people will stop going for them.So where will they get all those stones then? They'll have to get them for yourselves.
I'm not speaking of you,as a player.Judas.

It's quite simple Volk, the ganks will gank and extort each other. The IC has its own target playerbase, the people who love that cutthroat atmosphere, just like every other game and DLC. Whether you, and not you personally, decide to walk out of your comfort zone and brave the dangers for the reward is up to you; If not, don't buy the product.

This I will agree with.However,..c'mon. It's just an ugly way to play.Demanding Gold for leaving people alone? Kill them and take their stones,yes,but not to extort gold from them,..no.

Volkodav

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

They didnt want the stones,they wanted 20k gold to leave the other player alone.

Hadan_of_Rift

babylon wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Also its not bullying its a game dude PVEr stop taking everything as a personal offense.Its not against the law for a PVPer to kill you just get good bruh.

You just made my point for me. Thanks.

Please clarify how I proved you point?By saying don't take everything personal?Its a game?Just because someone beat you doesn't mean they are bullying you?Sorry if to me that doesn't consult bullying.

Just stepping in here...it's bullying because he's picking on just the one group he knows he can beat (aka farming noobs)...and on top of that demanding gold because otherwise he won't leave them alone.

The guy is a jerk.

Bring your guild in, should be able to summon a good 30 helpful, angry people on offnights to back you up OP, and 100 on peak hours easy...pretty sure that will do the trick

You are making a huge number of assumptions.First you are assuming the ganker isn't killing every enemy he comes across, which he/she probably is. Second the OP qq'd to the PvPer not the other way around, for all we know the PvPer was being a smart-ass and joking "sure send me 20k gold and I'll leave you alone" LOL

Lysette

Volkodav wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

They didnt want the stones,they wanted 20k gold to leave the other player alone.

Nah, they want both - those 20k per person and then gather the tears by not sticking to the contract. I would never negotiate with scum.

Hadan_of_Rift

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

On what *** planet is it harassment to be killed by an enemy player in a zone where it is rewarded behavior to kill enemy players?

If you can't win, go do something else for a few hours. Because normally you'd just be dead and feeding the ants and maggots. What's next, are you going to go report that world boss for being too hard? That gravity for being too unforgiving? That treasure chest for being too masterful?

I mean, ***.

You clearly didn't read the post so I'll try to go slowly so maybe you'll understand.

He is not upset at dieing over and over. He is upset that the ganker is demanding him and his group to pay him 20,000 gold from each member of the group to stop ganking them.

So he is asking if asking players for money to stop being a griefer is against the rules.

You clearly don't understand that the OP is a crybaby who contacted the ganker not the other way around. The OP was the one who violated the TOS when he/she decided to try and ruin the PvPers experience by asking him to stop PvPing in a PvP zone, not the other way around. You are also assuming that the PvPer wasn't joking by his request to the OP qq'n.

Judas Helviaryn

Volkodav wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

The problem here is that "harassment" is a very broad term. You could interpret the ToS to mean that ANYTHING that ticks off another player is harassment. I just jumped you in the sewers, you're angry, suddenly the fun in your game has been ruined. Is it fair to ask ZOS to punish me in this instance?

This extortion issue using game mechanics for ingame currency is not an issue that should be taken out of the game, it should be dealt with by the players in the game. Get protection, or find another grind spot.

I don't agree with the method, as a player, but I see it as fair game in a cutthroat atmosphere like the Imperial Sewers.

Amazing. I would hope that people wouldnt want to let this grow.Eventually,no one will go where this can be done to them.Not IC,and not Cyrodiil.It will only further the bad name of PvPers who do this for their own fun.So,who will they gank if no one ever wants to go there? As to the TV stones,soon people will stop going for them.So where will they get all those stones then? They'll have to get them for yourselves.
I'm not speaking of you,as a player.Judas.

It's quite simple Volk, the ganks will gank and extort each other. The IC has its own target playerbase, the people who love that cutthroat atmosphere, just like every other game and DLC. Whether you, and not you personally, decide to walk out of your comfort zone and brave the dangers for the reward is up to you; If not, don't buy the product.

This I will agree with.However,..c'mon. It's just an ugly way to play.Demanding Gold for leaving people alone? Kill them and take their stones,yes,but not to extort gold from them,..no.

Yes, it's very ugly. That alone doesn't make it an issue for ZOS, and punishments such as account suspension. This is an issue for those who want to play to mitigate. That's part of the appeal to the game, and the IC in particular. It's a big challenge, never a dull moment.

Ritzey01

Anyone who does this should be perma banned for harassment and extortion!

Volkodav

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

They didnt want the stones,they wanted 20k gold to leave the other player alone.

Nah, they want both - those 20k per person and then gather the tears by not sticking to the contract. I would never negotiate with scum.

What contract,Lysette? The OP didnt make a contract with anyone.
I dont know,..maybe my problem is that I respect the wishes of others more than I do my own gameplay.
I just dont think a game should bring out the worst in other people,but I guess I have to admit it does,..and others think it's funny when someone isnt enjoying their game because of it.
I hate that in anyone.It makes me ashamed.

Hadan_of_Rift

Volkodav wrote: »

Hadan_of_Rift wrote: »

Mic1007 wrote: »

Killing someone over and over and over and then demanding gold from them to stop doing it goes against it. It "causes distress and ruins the other users' experience" which is forbidden by 2.5.

This is what's wrong with society. Getting killed over and over in a video does NOT cause distress. If it does for you get medical help immediately there is something seriously wrong with your mental fortitude and without help you are in for a long life of depression.

Really? Shows that you know nothing about people.They tend to like to use and play what they pay for,..games.Games have always been a way to get away from stress,and if you dont think games can cause stress,it is YOU who need medical help.
Throughout time,people have gambled,..games,.and have killed themselves because of it.So,yes gaming can cause stress.It isnt the losing of money in ESO,its the abillity to be allowed to continue on playing,free of some jack-a-s-s who wont let them alone after being asked to. If you only have so much time to play a game you pay for,and dont want it to be wasted by a player wanting gold to leave you alone,..and quite a bit of gold at that,you're going to be stressed out.
And dont say:
"Urrmmm,..if you dont have the time,dont play."
Derp.

Yes you are 100% right people have played games (gambled) and kill themselves. Thank you for proving my point that society is turning into a bunch of whinny, weak willed, puffballs. I stand by if a video game causes you distress you should seek immediate professional help.

Also, if the player is so mentally weak then they should not go into a PvP zone to grind 80% or more of the game does not include PvP. It's pretty simple really even a toddler can understand it. If you don't want to die to players do not, I repeat do not go into a PvP zone. Also, I guess fighting that Maelstrom Arena boss (PvE) that someone can't beat is causing mental stress and ruining a players experience maybe they should report him too and ZOS can just mail everyone top PvE gear.

Sheezabeast

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

It's not diminishing in the sense of consecutive kills. It's time since last kill for AP. A couple minutes between each kill. Tel var is purely a % of what stones the player has on him at time of death

Ah ok thanks for the clarification. I thought it would be worth less and less every time back to back.

Volkodav wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

They didnt want the stones,they wanted 20k gold to leave the other player alone.

I didn't assume they wanted the stones though They were in a PVP enviroment, yes. The ganker is just as entitled to grind AP as the OP is entitled to grind mobs. Is asking someone not to kill you non-conducive to PVP? Yeah. But the people claiming its role-playing are full of crap and its silly to see people over-reaching to justify being a greedy jerk.

FENGRUSH

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

They didnt want the stones,they wanted 20k gold to leave the other player alone.

Nah, they want both - those 20k per person and then gather the tears by not sticking to the contract. I would never negotiate with scum.

Lord FENGRUSH keeps his contracts when players payou Him for His services. Most consider them offerings to The Lord though.

The good killers will keep their word, it's good business to do so. And thus will net you some money if people know you're good for it. They will also sellout their own faction to keep the xp area they paid for to themselves. It's a fun world out there when you bring financials into it!

Lysette

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

They didnt want the stones,they wanted 20k gold to leave the other player alone.

Nah, they want both - those 20k per person and then gather the tears by not sticking to the contract. I would never negotiate with scum.

What contract,Lysette? The OP didnt make a contract with anyone.
I dont know,..maybe my problem is that I respect the wishes of others more than I do my own gameplay.
I just dont think a game should bring out the worst in other people,but I guess I have to admit it does,..and others think it's funny when someone isnt enjoying their game because of it.
I hate that in anyone.It makes me ashamed.

I pointed out in another post in this thread how situations like this are handled in EVE online, which is PvP everywhere. If there is no effort made by the one offended (which is the case with the OP, they stubbornly want to stay there and do their thing while being left alone) to avoid the situation, it is not harassment. Especially when it is not a personal thing between the offender and the offended, but when this is done to others as well. I doubt that the offender has any intention to specifically target this player personally, he is just doing his thing, in a pvp zone he is pvp-ing, that is not a crime, but intended. It is questionable though, if the demand of protection money is intended gameplay - I do not think so - but this might still not be harrasment, because the offended does not do anything to avoid it but is stubbornly staying where he is and wants to have gameplay, which is not intended in a pvp zone (namely to be left alone) - so he has to deal with it.

Volkodav

Sheezabeast wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

It's not diminishing in the sense of consecutive kills. It's time since last kill for AP. A couple minutes between each kill. Tel var is purely a % of what stones the player has on him at time of death

Ah ok thanks for the clarification. I thought it would be worth less and less every time back to back.

Volkodav wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

They didnt want the stones,they wanted 20k gold to leave the other player alone.

I didn't assume they wanted the stones though They were in a PVP enviroment, yes. The ganker is just as entitled to grind AP as the OP is entitled to grind mobs. Is asking someone not to kill you non-conducive to PVP? Yeah. But the people claiming its role-playing are full of crap and its silly to see people over-reaching to justify being a greedy jerk.

It's because certain ones are just like that greedy jerk.So they need to defend him.

7788b14_ESO

They've been doing that in Eve Online for years.

hammayolettuce

I'm fairly certain that, that form of extortion is against TOS. It can be twisted into various aspects of breaking the TOS. If they are writing the messages to you and it's not over a voice chat like console is forced into then maybe you can screen shot it and send it to ZOS.

Otherwise just git gud.

Muizer

Hmm, interesting.

My first reaction was: "OP has little to complain about. By entering a PvP area, you essentially waive the right to complain about getting killed by an opponent. After all, it was the OP who sought out the area where they got killed time and again. Same with cited case of the the sorc in the cave. Can you claim being harrassed if it is basically you who is seeking out your tormentor?

Well actually you can, if this opponent is prioritising you over all other targets for no gameplay related reasons. If the attacker had just said "no", or nothing at all, when asked to leave the OP alone, there would be nothing for the OP to complain about, unless he could otherwise prove the attacker had it in for him. Until then, it was well within the bounds of intended gameplay*. But, he asked for gold and the threat he's willing to prioritise the OP as target is certainly implied. And there we have it: Harrassment.

*Grinding, btw, is not intended gameplay. There are no designated grind quests or locations. In fact ZoS actively counter grinding. People who object to people getting in the way of their grinding don't have a leg to stand on.

ElderBugOffline

jeez i never guess so many weak ppl will support Op point
you guys didnt understand anything

and you are pathetic
ebcause the ganker was right, and the OP is the one who must be reported

Hadan_of_Rift

Volkodav wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

It's not diminishing in the sense of consecutive kills. It's time since last kill for AP. A couple minutes between each kill. Tel var is purely a % of what stones the player has on him at time of death

Ah ok thanks for the clarification. I thought it would be worth less and less every time back to back.

Volkodav wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

They didnt want the stones,they wanted 20k gold to leave the other player alone.

I didn't assume they wanted the stones though They were in a PVP enviroment, yes. The ganker is just as entitled to grind AP as the OP is entitled to grind mobs. Is asking someone not to kill you non-conducive to PVP? Yeah. But the people claiming its role-playing are full of crap and its silly to see people over-reaching to justify being a greedy jerk.

It's because certain ones are just like that greedy jerk.So they need to defend him.

Or he was enjoying the game that he paid for and doing PvP in a PvP zone. Why do you think you have any right to ask a PvP player to stop PvPing? Flip the scenario a PvP who isn't good at PvE wants to grind your special PvE leveling spot. He's running around trying to keep up and get experience, you are out grinding him. He messages you to leave the area so he can grind it without you taking the experience. You just leave? Ok np I want to level my character here but sure I'll leave... complete BS.

I honestly, don't understand the confusion here at all.

1) You know most of the game is PvE only
2) You know you are going into a PvP area
3) You know in a PvP area you can get you know PvP'd and killed

But you still QQ about it. It's like telling the police office who's giving a speeding ticket "Yeah I know the listed speed was 25, but I wanted to go 50 so because I wanted to you shouldn't give me the ticket."

Judas Helviaryn

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I'm fairly certain that, that form of extortion is against TOS. It can be twisted into various aspects of breaking the TOS. If they are writing the messages to you and it's not over a voice chat like console is forced into then maybe you can screen shot it and send it to ZOS.

Otherwise just git gud.

If it needs to be twisted to fit the ToS definition of harassment, it's not real harassment then, is it?

Lysette

7788b14_ESO wrote: »

They've been doing that in Eve Online for years.

Exactly -and CCP ruled, that the offended has to make serious efforts to avoid it - like changing location significantly. If the offender is following them around and there is no way to avoid it (and no war is declared), then it could be considered harassment, otherwise it is not. PvP is PvP, it is to be expected to be killed at some point in time. Pretty much no one can survive without getting killed once in a while - some more often some less - that is just how PvP is.

Sheezabeast

I think I see where the grey area is now. I've been thinking about this, being empathetic to both sides. I think the issue at its root indicates the OP feeling stalked and then extorted to end the stalking. But being PVP, stalking is part of the game. The line blurs between being hunted in PVP for the sake of the kill and stalking and harassing.

Brutusmax1mus

newtinmpls wrote: »

JadeNaria wrote: »

To be specific for those who don't get it..........

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/code-of-conduct?q=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&p=fce92e19-9893-469b-89b8-f994d19f90d1&ts=1460423058&c=zenimaxonline&e=live&rt=AfterEvent&h=666bb92f2d51c4a81b66555d135ab2ba

Go to #2 B e h a v i o r

Then #2.5

Thank you and have a good day, bye bye now

Just in case it's too difficult for some:

2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience.

Again... if you really can't tell that a behavior is bullying....probably means you have some social problems.

and yes.. I work in psych.

You sound like a psych job fits you well.

First of all IMO, since you messaged him first your case is hurt a ton. I'm not sure if you asked him to leave you alone and that was his suggestion, or if you asked what you could do to get him to stop, but that fact is very important as well. A realistic account of what happened is needed so we are all just speculating.

If a grinder for xp was doing a better job than you getting xp and you messaged him to stop and it ended in payment being the end all, i don't see a problem on it at all what so ever. It's still "breaking" your experience and rule 2.5 technically, if you're a little entitled.

I see nothing wrong unless he messaged you first demanding it out he wouldn't stop, and even then i don't think it's a problem. Plenty of options to get away from that situation...

Volkodav

Hadan_of_Rift wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

It's not diminishing in the sense of consecutive kills. It's time since last kill for AP. A couple minutes between each kill. Tel var is purely a % of what stones the player has on him at time of death

Ah ok thanks for the clarification. I thought it would be worth less and less every time back to back.

Volkodav wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Don't you get a diminishing amount of TV stones and AP for killing the same person over and over?

They didnt want the stones,they wanted 20k gold to leave the other player alone.

I didn't assume they wanted the stones though They were in a PVP enviroment, yes. The ganker is just as entitled to grind AP as the OP is entitled to grind mobs. Is asking someone not to kill you non-conducive to PVP? Yeah. But the people claiming its role-playing are full of crap and its silly to see people over-reaching to justify being a greedy jerk.

It's because certain ones are just like that greedy jerk.So they need to defend him.

Or he was enjoying the game that he paid for and doing PvP in a PvP zone. Why do you think you have any right to ask a PvP player to stop PvPing? Flip the scenario a PvP who isn't good at PvE wants to grind your special PvE leveling spot. He's running around trying to keep up and get experience, you are out grinding him. He messages you to leave the area so he can grind it without you taking the experience. You just leave? Ok np I want to level my character here but sure I'll leave... complete BS.

I honestly, don't understand the confusion here at all.

1) You know most of the game is PvE only
2) You know you are going into a PvP area
3) You know in a PvP area you can get you know PvP'd and killed

But you still QQ about it. It's like telling the police office who's giving a speeding ticket "Yeah I know the listed speed was 25, but I wanted to go 50 so because I wanted to you shouldn't give me the ticket."

Firstly,I am not asking anyone to do anything.I am simply stating my own point of view,even if it isnt popular with some here.Fine with me,but I wont insult them for it.
Secondly,the OP didnt ask him to leave the grinding area,just to leave him and his pal alone.The OP also didnt tell the ganker that he couldnt grind as well.Just to not kill them over and over.Once or twice might be ok,but not asking for gold.

OrangeTheCat

billybailey1982ub17_ESO wrote: »

So I was in IC grinding on mobs when I found this 1 player constantly killing me over and over again. I asked for him to please stop killing me and to let us grind. He proceeded to tell me to send him 20K gold for each member in my group and only then he would leave us alone. Does this sound like a part of the game that should be allowed to happen? Has this ever happened to anyone else?

Awesome! Capitalism at work. Wish I had thought of it first.

You are not entitled to your grind. AND you are in PvP. Get used to it.

Levi

Well, you are in a PvP zone. I don't like the idea of extortion, and I imagine that I'm not the only one. Get your own brand of justice. Get a pic, send it to your guildies, and go after them as a guild. Maybe put a bounty on their head if you have the gold. 10k for a pic of this guy's corpse. Post a bounty. Call a posse. Make an impromptu guild event. Make it so irritating for them that they leave the IC Sewers. If you don't want to do that, leave for a while and grind elsewhere. Just don't pay them. People like that don't need encouragement.

Lysette

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

JadeNaria wrote: »

To be specific for those who don't get it..........

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/code-of-conduct?q=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&p=fce92e19-9893-469b-89b8-f994d19f90d1&ts=1460423058&c=zenimaxonline&e=live&rt=AfterEvent&h=666bb92f2d51c4a81b66555d135ab2ba

Go to #2 B e h a v i o r

Then #2.5

Thank you and have a good day, bye bye now

Just in case it's too difficult for some:

2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience.

Again... if you really can't tell that a behavior is bullying....probably means you have some social problems.

and yes.. I work in psych.

You sound like a psych job fits you well.

First of all IMO, since you messaged him first your case is hurt a ton. I'm not sure if you asked him to leave you alone and that was his suggestion, or if you asked what you could do to get him to stop, but that fact is very important as well. A realistic account of what happened is needed so we are all just speculating.

If a grinder for xp was doing a better job than you getting xp and you messaged him to stop and it ended in payment being the end all, i don't see a problem on it at all what so ever. It's still "breaking" your experience and rule 2.5 technically, if you're a little entitled.

I see nothing wrong unless he messaged you first demanding it out he wouldn't stop, and even then i don't think it's a problem. Plenty of options to get away from that situation...

It could be seen the other way round as well - asking a pvper to stop pvping in a pvp zone is disrupting his experience to pvp in a pvp zone. So this request could be seen as harassment as well - towards the pvp player, who just wants to enjoy pvp in a pvp zone and is blamed for doing so.