Can we fix lotus fan pls

Sypher

I know there are other dots breaking cloak but since 90% of cyrodiils are nightblades this one is the most annoying.

The dot applied to you from lotus fan isn't suppressed by cloak, so it breaks cloak constantly if the dot is on you.

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE AOE THAT LOTUS FAN DOES. I'm talking about the dot afterwards (had to type in caps for emphasis)

olsborg

You also break cloak by having dots on someone else, Poison Injection does this, not every dot it seems either, but I suspect everytime it crits it will break you out of cloak, also the poison dot status effect it has a chance to procc will bring you out of cloak. Havent tested this thoroughly tho. If you have agony dot on you it will also bring you out of cloak and I suspect the burning dot status effect also will cause when dueling a friend of mine who uses firestaff my cloak rarely works.

HoloYoitsu

Ok look, if you want Cloak fixed you're going to have to come to an agreement w/ ZOS to let them break some other key ability as badly as Cloak. That's the way things work around here.

TheMachineKiller

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Ok look, if you want Cloak fixed you're going to have to come to an agreement w/ ZOS to let them break some other key ability as badly as Cloak. That's the way things work around here.

I care nothing of this post. I just like your signature.

Zheg

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

GRxKnight

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

While i enjoy cloaking my enemies ult and laughing that they effectively wasted it....it does make 0 sense that you can cloak meteor...the only way a nightblade who cloaks can still get hit by a meteor is if after they cloak you somehow pull them out of stealth...but yeah that *** needs to be fixed

QuebraRegra

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Ok look, if you want Cloak fixed you're going to have to come to an agreement w/ ZOS to let them break some other key ability as badly as Cloak. That's the way things work around here.

FTW!

Seriously, once everything in the game is broke, what is left? Getting to the point when I'm wonder why bother anymore?

Why kill what could be a decent game?

Sallington

all you need to do is convince them that lotus fan is disabling the cake XP buff.

Boom, hotfixed.

Shunravi

TheMachineKiller wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Ok look, if you want Cloak fixed you're going to have to come to an agreement w/ ZOS to let them break some other key ability as badly as Cloak. That's the way things work around here.

I care nothing of this post. I just like your signature.

And yet you replied to it

ThePonzzz

Most DoTs are just broke. Stealth should not be ruined because you hit someone with a poison injection or if an enemy walks over your caltrops.

frozywozy

Stahhhhhhhhp Zenimax. Please stahp! -Sypher

HoloYoitsu

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

We should build an anti meteor wall around your house and make Wrobel pay for it.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Wait what? You are saying that cyrodiil is 90% NBs and yet you are discussing a NB skill affecting another NB skill?

You have to admit that's kind of funny.

In order to buff NBs, you have to nerf NBs. hahahaha too good.

frozywozy

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Wait what? You are saying that cyrodiil is 90% NBs and yet you are discussing a NB skill affecting another NB skill?

You have to admit that's kind of funny.

In order to buff NBs, you have to nerf NBs. hahahaha too good.

Nerf Magicka NB to buff Stamina nb

Zheg

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

We should build an anti meteor wall around your house and make Wrobel pay for it.

I need a ceiling, not walls sorc.

Or better yet, a BASEMENT. Then I could hide like a nb and take shelter when a meteor comes my way. I could turn it into my man cave and watch alpha videos of CU while I wait for my 10 minute long cyro load screens.

Besides of which, I'm not sure wrobel could even afford to pay for it given his inflated budget for juice boxes and bad ideas. I'll have to start up a healer's tax collection.

Sypher

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Wait what? You are saying that cyrodiil is 90% NBs and yet you are discussing a NB skill affecting another NB skill?

You have to admit that's kind of funny.

In order to buff NBs, you have to nerf NBs. hahahaha too good.

bugs are bugs, buffs and nerfs are a different thing all together.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Sypher wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Wait what? You are saying that cyrodiil is 90% NBs and yet you are discussing a NB skill affecting another NB skill?

You have to admit that's kind of funny.

In order to buff NBs, you have to nerf NBs. hahahaha too good.

bugs are bugs, buffs and nerfs are a different thing all together.

I don't disagree with you. I just hate it when I'm nightbladeing on my nightblade in Nightbladediil and this Nightblade Nightblades me right in the Nightblade! I mean WTN? Why can't my nightblade nightblade when another nightblade I'm nightbladeing nightblades my nightblade?

zZzleepyhead

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

HoloYoitsu

Zheg wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

We should build an anti meteor wall around your house and make Wrobel pay for it.

I need a ceiling, not walls sorc.

Or better yet, a BASEMENT. Then I could hide like a nb and take shelter when a meteor comes my way. I could turn it into my man cave and watch alpha videos of CU while I wait for my 10 minute long cyro load screens.

Besides of which, I'm not sure wrobel could even afford to pay for it given his inflated budget for juice boxes and bad ideas. I'll have to start up a healer's tax collection.

You're not understanding me, the wall isn't to protect you, it's to contain the AoE explosion when you get meteor'd so I don't get knocked up with random CCs.

Zheg

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

We should build an anti meteor wall around your house and make Wrobel pay for it.

I need a ceiling, not walls sorc.

Or better yet, a BASEMENT. Then I could hide like a nb and take shelter when a meteor comes my way. I could turn it into my man cave and watch alpha videos of CU while I wait for my 10 minute long cyro load screens.

Besides of which, I'm not sure wrobel could even afford to pay for it given his inflated budget for juice boxes and bad ideas. I'll have to start up a healer's tax collection.

You're not understanding me, the wall isn't to protect you, it's to contain the AoE explosion when you get meteor'd so I don't get knocked up with random CCs.

But I'm a permablocking templar, you'll only get hit by random CCs if you're as much of a baddie as we all know you to be. I will not be denied. If I can't have a functional house then I will at least have a functional man cave basement to hide myself from meteors.

Teridaxus

Nightblade complains about other nightblades...
...
wtf

Yolokin_Swagonborn

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

Nightblade complains about other nightblades...
...
wtf

Once the NB conversion rate in cyrodill reaches 100%, their wont be anything else to complain about. NBs killed my NB. Please nerf NB and also buff NB!!!

Eirella

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

NO! >:O



They should just revert Meteor back to being reflectable..

PainfulFAFA

Sypher wrote: »

I know there are other dots breaking cloak but since 90% of cyrodiils are nightblades this one is the most annoying.

The dot applied to you from lotus fan isn't suppressed by cloak, so it breaks cloak constantly if the dot is on you.

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE AOE THAT LOTUS FAN DOES. I'm talking about the dot afterwards (had to type in caps for emphasis)

for the people getting on the hate train LOL!

FloppyTouch

90% NB! PvP working as intended

Would like to add that number is going to shoot up after this week is done. In every grind spot I have seen 2-4 Magic NB grinding. PvP is going to be stupid.

KenaPKK

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

You'd have to nerf Meteor then. There's a reason that once reflect was taken from it, it became instantly BiS for the majority of builds. Nightblades seldom run enough durability or stam to eat one or block it.

FloppyTouch

KenaPKK wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

You'd have to nerf Meteor then. There's a reason that once reflect was taken from it, it became instantly BiS for the majority of builds. Nightblades seldom run enough durability or stam to eat one or block it.

That seems like a build issue to me

mchermie

The debuff from fasallas is pretty annoying too as you can never cloak when its on you

DjKahun

Zheg

FloppyTouch wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

You'd have to nerf Meteor then. There's a reason that once reflect was taken from it, it became instantly BiS for the majority of builds. Nightblades seldom run enough durability or stam to eat one or block it.

That seems like a build issue to me

This. You think other classes don't want to go glass cannon and be able to get away with it Kena? It's also kind of ridiculous for you to tell me the class with the best passive regen and the best means to return resources (siphon attacks) can't block a meteor. When the logic for not being able to purify a meteor (same effect) was that it was never intended to remove a projectile like that, and when the logic for removing the ability to reflect meteor was that ultimates shouldn't be able to be wasted and reflected (except overload), what exactly makes NB such a special snowflake? Frankly I find it a little insulting that Wrobel would eliminate every other class' ability to deal with meteor EXCEPT for teacher's favorite pet. The last remaining meteor counter doesn't even make sense - I'm in a wide open field about to have a meteor dropped on me, but I'm going to wave my hand over my face so I can laugh at your ultimate while I prox + tether you from stealth?

KenaPKK

Zheg wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Can we also fix cloak being able to ditch an incoming meteor? Because that is a steaming pile of BS right there considering we can no longer reflect it and templars can no longer purify it. #wrobellogic though.

You'd have to nerf Meteor then. There's a reason that once reflect was taken from it, it became instantly BiS for the majority of builds. Nightblades seldom run enough durability or stam to eat one or block it.

That seems like a build issue to me

This. You think other classes don't want to go glass cannon and be able to get away with it Kena? It's also kind of ridiculous for you to tell me the class with the best passive regen and the best means to return resources (siphon attacks) can't block a meteor. When the logic for not being able to purify a meteor (same effect) was that it was never intended to remove a projectile like that, and when the logic for removing the ability to reflect meteor was that ultimates shouldn't be able to be wasted and reflected (except overload), what exactly makes NB such a special snowflake? Frankly I find it a little insulting that Wrobel would eliminate every other class' ability to deal with meteor EXCEPT for teacher's favorite pet. The last remaining meteor counter doesn't even make sense - I'm in a wide open field about to have a meteor dropped on me, but I'm going to wave my hand over my face so I can laugh at your ultimate while I prox + tether you from stealth?

There's so much emotion and bias in this post that it's hard to respond to it... Simply put, Purify wasn't designed to dodge projectiles, but cloak's force miss was. It's nightblades' primary defensive mechanic. If you're going to make it so we can't dodge meteor, you'd have to make it so we can't dodge any projectiles, and that simply isn't fair to the class. Making it so we can dodge other projectiles but not meteor is mechanically inconsistent, so that shouldn't be implemented on basis of the game's playability alone.

I don't think reflecting meteor should have been removed from the game, just like nearly everyone else. But just because it was removed does not mean you can go parading around demanding compensatory nerfs to the other classes to make up for it.