Necromancer: how long do we have to wait?

Ryskim

I remember when this game launched. I even played the beta. The hype was so high. I would get to play an online Elder Scrolls game and be the class I've always been: a Necromancer. So basically I wanted to test myself as a necromancer vs other players. I played necromancer in all games I could (Age of Conan, Guild Wars 1 & 2, Rift Online, etc...). I remember when I heard the bad news: there is not a playable necromancer in ESO. But there might be one in the future. This was 2 years ago when the game launched. 2 years! And the only interesting thing we have is the Thieves Guild. We don't even have the Dark Brotherhood there yet...

So I will ask again... WHEN ZoS? How longer do we have to wait for a playable Necromancer?

I remember ZoS conducted a small survey in facebook about what kind of pet class we'd like to have in ESO. 90% of the people said: Necromancer is the most logical choice.

I bought the game when it launched. I've come and gone between big patches and updates. Will be gone until the Necromancer is really playable.

Thanks for reading.

L2Pissue

you can make a zoo build with magicka sorcerer

Speely

Well much of the theme of the story is based upon opposing necromancy, and you are Meridia's champion, and she has absolutely zero tolerance for such. They would have to rewrite a lot of the major quests to allow for necromancy, and there is NO way Meridia would choose a necromancer as her champion. Multiple other quests are also based upon the idea of necromancy being vile (which it is,) so this could only work with a TON of scrapping and rewriting content.

Abeille

They said we might be able play as necromancers in the future? When did they say that? I don't remember this at all.

Necromancy is outlawed in many places in Tamriel, and frowned upon in many more. It would be a tricky thing to add because they would need a reason for npcs to be okay with your character practicing it.

Thevampirenight

Merinda allows her champion to be a vampire lol.
I can see no problem with them adding a necromancer class or necromancy skill line. We need it!
People want to be Necromancers the people have spoken!

DerAlleinTiger

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Merinda allows her champion to be a vampire lol.
I can see no problem with them adding a necromancer class or necromancy skill line. We need it!
People want to be Necromancers the people have spoken!

We need another class to balance thrown into the mix like I need a sword to the chest.

clayandaudrey_ESO

Only if you can summon an army of like 20 skeletons. That should fix the lag in Cyrodiil.

Wolfshead

Necromancy is count as dark magic using even in Age of Conan, Guild Wars 1 & 2, Rift Online as well so why would you think people (NPC) in Tamriel think you will be nice person for you are basically summon death people in different shape size.

If you have play ESO and really follow some of stories (quest) you should know that the people (NPC) in Tamriel dont even like vampire and werewolf how do you think that well do if the see Necromancy.

Beside you can have pet on Sorcerer

Abeille

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Thevampirenight wrote: »

Merinda allows her champion to be a vampire lol.
I can see no problem with them adding a necromancer class or necromancy skill line. We need it!
People want to be Necromancers the people have spoken!

I do wish she had a thing or two to say about the Vestige being a vampire. Maybe about how she knows of the Vestige's importance for beating Molag Bal, her greatest enemy, which is why she wouldn't burn the Vestige where they stand. Or how she knows that the Vestige's bloodline rejects Molag Bal so that she will let that slip for now.

But then again, I also wish the other npcs would notice vampirism. I hate when they talk badly about vampires to my face when I'm playing my vampire. Or how Count Verandis acts like my character is not a vampire.

MornaBaine

We just need an "evil" faction. With their own quests. They can intro it as DLC and it would sell like mad. Sell additional character slots along with it and I'd totally start a fresh character to play a necromancer at last!

Thevampirenight

MornaBaine wrote: »

We just need an "evil" faction. With their own quests. They can intro it as DLC and it would sell like mad. Sell additional character slots along with it and I'd totally start a fresh character to play a necromancer at last!

They should add necromancer class or necromancy with dark brotherhood dlc.
We are getting that faction next and they are basically an evil faction because they are assassins and murderers.
(Though some of the people assassinated are worse then the dark brotherhoods worst members lol.)

I am not sure when they plan on adding a new class. Possibly they might surprise us, and add it within this year. Or later next year.

Malnutrition

MornaBaine wrote: »

We just need an "evil" faction. With their own quests. They can intro it as DLC and it would sell like mad. Sell additional character slots along with it and I'd totally start a fresh character to play a necromancer at last!

This.

ArchMikem

L2Pissue wrote: »

you can make a zoo build with magicka sorcerer

I'm sure everyone knows you can play as a Summoner, but he want's to be a Necromancer. You know, Zombies, Skeletons, Wraiths and the like.

It would be pretty awesome to sic Wraiths on people...

Thevampirenight

ArchMikem wrote: »

L2Pissue wrote: »

you can make a zoo build with magicka sorcerer

I'm sure everyone knows you can play as a Summoner, but he want's to be a Necromancer. You know, Zombies, Skeletons, Wraiths and the like.

It would be pretty awesome to sic Wraiths on people...

I want to summon Zombies and Skeletons!.
Summoning ghosts and wraiths would be cool as well.
Though I know it might not ever happen but I want to become a lich in game!
They could balance it out by making it weaker because you basically don't have a soul thus your lichdom is much weaker.

But being able to summon Wraiths, Skeletons, zombies, possibly bloodfiends would be epic!.

Mojmir

so ripping hearts out of peoples chest in a quest is ok
summoning the dead for questioning in a quest is ok
you enlist the aide of a necromancer to defeat molag bal and thats ok
being a werewolf or vampire is ok
you yourself are wandering around with no soul for awhile and thats ok

want to consider a career in necromancy? thats not ok

Speely

Vamps can be repentant and basically be good guys. There is no way necromancers can be good guys because necromancy is inherently horrid. If players want to NOT be good guys, then fair enough. Otherwise, petition ZOS to redo the whole storyline.

ArchMikem

Speely wrote: »

Vamps can be repentant and basically be good guys. There is no way necromancers can be good guys because necromancy is inherently horrid. If players want to NOT be good guys, then fair enough. Otherwise, petition ZOS to redo the whole storyline.

That is a point. The Vestige, being a Necromancer? Well Abnur's a Necromancer (is he? or is he just a dark magic user?)

It doesn't fit well for the Vestige to go down that path, then again the game does give you the Intimidating Will passive so you can be a complete *** to people sometimes.

Speely

Abnur Tharn is a pragmatic Sorcerer. He never displays any necromantic skills even though he is probably very grey on the issue. It's worth noting that he HATES Mannimarco and his entire approach to gaining power.

vonfelty

It would be possible to become a necromancer and still be lore friendly.

After you complete the main quest you could have a downfall quest line similar to being vampire or werewolf were you pledge your loyalty to a Daedric prince. You can always remove it like vampire etc. That said you can't be a necromancer before you finish the main questline.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

Well, you can KIND of make a pseudo-necromancer build with the Undaunted skill line. Bone Barrier, Blood Altar, and Necrotic Orb all have a necromantic flavor to them.

You can also run a Frost Staff for a "chill of death" vibe, or a Nightblade for the life-draining skills.

It wouldn't really be hard for ZOS to pull off, though. Maybe one of the Sorcerer's Daedric Summoning skills could get a zombie/skeleton swarm morph to make the vibe complete.

I dunno, I'm just spit-balling here.

Dagoth_Rac

Considering how much trouble they have getting the current 4 classes working and balanced, throwing a 5th class into the mix sounds like something the game is not ready for. This is not a solo game where the main goal of classes and skills is that they are "cool". This is a competitive multiplayer game. The different classes need to complement each other when working together in PvP or group PvE. They need to have countermeasures when in opposition in PvP. What methods would a Nightblade use to counter a Necromancer's strengths? What methods would a Necromancer use to counter a Dragonknight's strength? And so on, with the complex web of interactions with all the other classes, in PvE and PvP, small group and large group. It is a really big undertaking if you want to do it right.

They still don't have half the builds in the game (stamina builds) working properly! They have promised enhancements and fixes for that as part of the base game patch for Dark Brotherhood.

ZOS is a studio that has done a lot of really great things with the game. Class balance and design is not one of them. Balance will never be perfect, but it needs to be a lot better than it is now before ZOS should consider adding another class. Considering I have never heard ZOS mention, or even hint at, adding a new class, I think they realize that.

Darlon

You'll have to wait a very long time....

Dubhliam

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/242319/new-class-invoker-a-necromancer-chanter/p1

Give this thread a look.

Tryxus

"If" a new class gets released, 9/10 it's going to be the Warden class

And I won't rest bringing this up Cuz I want Warden so very much

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO

Speely wrote: »

Vamps can be repentant and basically be good guys. There is no way necromancers can be good guys because necromancy is inherently horrid. If players want to NOT be good guys, then fair enough. Otherwise, petition ZOS to redo the whole storyline.

A necromancer isn't evil to me just because of raising dead bodies. I see it as much more evil to bind a living being to your will and force them to fight for you as the sorcerer does than raising a dead body that has no feelings, will or anything of it's own, it's a husk, empty of everything that would make it alive.

Van_0S

Ryskim wrote: »

I remember when this game launched. I even played the beta. The hype was so high. I would get to play an online Elder Scrolls game and be the class I've always been: a Necromancer. So basically I wanted to test myself as a necromancer vs other players. I played necromancer in all games I could (Age of Conan, Guild Wars 1 & 2, Rift Online, etc...). I remember when I heard the bad news: there is not a playable necromancer in ESO. But there might be one in the future. This was 2 years ago when the game launched. 2 years! And the only interesting thing we have is the Thieves Guild. We don't even have the Dark Brotherhood there yet...

So I will ask again... WHEN ZoS? How longer do we have to wait for a playable Necromancer?

I remember ZoS conducted a small survey in facebook about what kind of pet class we'd like to have in ESO. 90% of the people said: Necromancer is the most logical choice.

I bought the game when it launched. I've come and gone between big patches and updates. Will be gone until the Necromancer is really playable.

Thanks for reading.

Do you know OP,

I was thinking why you guys want necromancer class anyway but I just went back to skyrim to try magic class( I am always stamina).

Then I just encountered a mundus stone Ritual which states "Once a day, those under the sign of The Ritual can reanimate nearby corpses to fight for them."

I got to say I loved that spell a lot
( with console commands I could reanimate any corpse at any time :P ).

So, now I know why you guys want it..... It really spoiled us in skyrim.

Phinix1

clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »

Only if you can summon an army of like 20 skeletons. That should fix the lag in Cyrodiil.

Exactly why this class will never happen.

Sadly.

EDIT: They might be able to do it through a sub-class system where you build up rep with certain factions and can join and gain skill lines with them.

If they made Necromancy a PVE-only faction it could work...

Just a thought.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Speely wrote: »

Well much of the theme of the story is based upon opposing necromancy, and you are Meridia's champion, and she has absolutely zero tolerance for such. They would have to rewrite a lot of the major quests to allow for necromancy, and there is NO way Meridia would choose a necromancer as her champion. Multiple other quests are also based upon the idea of necromancy being vile (which it is,) so this could only work with a TON of scrapping and rewriting content.

If anyone at ZoS thinks that anyone cares and role playing enough to kill a class they are wrong. Even the role players are not into Meridia I'm not a hard core role player but I have a back story for all my guys and a general guide line. But I don't like Meridia my guys fellow Sithis.

Both Nightblades and Sorcerers are hated by Meridia both use dark magic one creates deadly shadows and the other fight on the side of Daedric creatures pretty sure she hates but no one care. Being forced to be the good is dry and boring story telling everyone make you the selfless hero it's so cookie cutter.

Phinix1

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Even the role players are not into Meridia I'm not a hard core role player but I have a back story for all my guys and a general guide line. But I don't like Meridia my guys fellow Sithis.

"There is no life in the void. Only death"

HAIL SITHIS.

WhimsyDragon

Some legit points here about the issues with necromancy. Additionally, two years after launch with no new classes seems pretty typical in MMOs. Adding a new class is a major undertaking and I tend to see it happen years into a game's development, if ever. Not trying to rain on your parade, but... *opens umbrella and bounds away*

Buffler

Rich lambert said on the latest ESO Live that they have bugs and balancing to address before they even consider another class and/or weapon skill line