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Azura's Star EU-PC
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kuro-dono✭✭✭✭its real shame with all the populations in each faction we have ap farmers who dont give *** about campaigns.
Thats why there is these folks who love campaigns where their faction is low pop and then there are these who love to have all buffs for their faction, then these who just want to... not sure what they want, but dont definetly care about healthty AvAvA environment0 -
kuro-dono✭✭✭✭since when thats been requirement for healtht AvAvA? its 3 way war.
no need historian to explain that stuff like that happen.0 -
Abra✭✭✭History showed us that when someone gave a scroll to reds following a deal , then they took all ours and made emp afterwards but hey, stuff like that happen!0 -
Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭History showed us that when someone gave a scroll to reds following a deal , then they took all ours and made emp afterwards but hey, stuff like that happen!
Deal? You had no deal with me...Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
Orc Weapon Specialist and Warchief of the Ebonheart Pact - Trueflame Cyrodiil War Campaign
Guildsite: The Nephilim
"I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
-Voltaire
"My build? Improvise, overcome and adapt!"0 -
Berserkur✭✭✭
Like I said, for dc farmgroups (like yours) the own population is perfect,no doubt. But for an "healthy" 3way War it isn't good at all.
Dc population gets better after 7 pm0 -
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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Like I said, for dc farmgroups (like yours) the own population is perfect,no doubt. But for an "healthy" 3way War it isn't good at all.
Dc population gets better after 7 pm
I cant agree more @Etaniel shouldn't be running with his 2 man farm group on a less active campaign. How dare you Etaniel. .. Shame....@Solar_Breeze
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Berserkur✭✭✭Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »
Like I said, for dc farmgroups (like yours) the own population is perfect,no doubt. But for an "healthy" 3way War it isn't good at all.
Dc population gets better after 7 pm
I cant agree more @Etaniel shouldn't be running with his 2 man farm group on a less active campaign. How dare you Etaniel. .. Shame....
Oh Inzanagi, you won't understand it even if try to explain it to you. Especially if I don't even only mean Etaniel's group. Nvm
I can't understand why a group doesn't matter what colour crossing the whole map to capture an outpost on the other side of the map even if they don't even own their own first three keeps or scrolls.
And for the protocol it wasn't Etaniel's group and it wasn't my intention to insult them( I have a lot more respect for such kind of 2-6 Men group compared to an 12-16 Aoe Blob)Edited by Berserkur on April 27, 2016 10:33AM0 -
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »
Like I said, for dc farmgroups (like yours) the own population is perfect,no doubt. But for an "healthy" 3way War it isn't good at all.
Dc population gets better after 7 pm
I cant agree more @Etaniel shouldn't be running with his 2 man farm group on a less active campaign. How dare you Etaniel. .. Shame....
Oh Inzanagi, you won't understand it even if try to explain it to you. Especially if I don't even only mean Etaniel's group. Nvm
I can't understand why a group doesn't matter what colour crossing the whole map to capture an outpost on the other side of the map even if they don't even own their own first three keeps or scrolls.
And for the protocol it wasn't Etaniel's group and it wasn't my intention to insult them( I have a lot more respect for such kind of 2-6 Men group compared to an 12-16 Aoe Blob)
@Berserkur please can you fill me in on your respect chart.
Solo player:
Solo player following zerg:
Pug zerg 48:
Pug zerg 24:
Pug zerg 12-16:
Organised group 24m+:
Organised group 12-16:
Organised group 6-12:
Organised group 2-6:
1 being scum of the earth.
10 being gods among men.
Thanks
@Solar_Breeze
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Etaniel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I can't understand why a group doesn't matter what colour crossing the whole map to capture an outpost on the other side of the map even if they don't even own their own first three keeps or scrolls.
There are multiple reasons why we would do that.
First, we aren't interested in campaign scorings. Why? Because the scoring means nothing since some factions will have locked populations while we sleep, which means that even if we tried, there'd be no way to catch up in the scoring system.
Second, we want good fights, and for us good fights are the ones where each in our group make a difference and play their part. That doesn't happen when you are fighting alongside another dc horde, so we move away from the pug raids trying to claim back rayles without sieging for 3 hours...
And lastly, if we trigger some yellows at a distant outpost, that will be less yellows for our other dc groups to handle, which means they might eventually take back the home keeps.2 -
Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can't understand why a group doesn't matter what colour crossing the whole map to capture an outpost on the other side of the map even if they don't even own their own first three keeps or scrolls.
There are multiple reasons why we would do that.
First, we aren't interested in campaign scorings. Why? Because the scoring means nothing since some factions will have locked populations while we sleep, which means that even if we tried, there'd be no way to catch up in the scoring system.
Second, we want good fights, and for us good fights are the ones where each in our group make a difference and play their part. That doesn't happen when you are fighting alongside another dc horde, so we move away from the pug raids trying to claim back rayles without sieging for 3 hours...
And lastly, if we trigger some yellows at a distant outpost, that will be less yellows for our other dc groups to handle, which means they might eventually take back the home keeps.
I have no idea why Yellows do things, but try again, because that sure ain´t the reason.
4 pact was all it took, to scare away your Yellow butts to the blue side all morning.
Only after I did a braindead orc thing and (tried) to lead a pug and crown emp, Big boss showed up with, well a lot!Edited by Cogo on April 27, 2016 2:15PMOghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
Orc Weapon Specialist and Warchief of the Ebonheart Pact - Trueflame Cyrodiil War Campaign
Guildsite: The Nephilim
"I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
-Voltaire
"My build? Improvise, overcome and adapt!"0 -
Etaniel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I can't understand why a group doesn't matter what colour crossing the whole map to capture an outpost on the other side of the map even if they don't even own their own first three keeps or scrolls.
There are multiple reasons why we would do that.
First, we aren't interested in campaign scorings. Why? Because the scoring means nothing since some factions will have locked populations while we sleep, which means that even if we tried, there'd be no way to catch up in the scoring system.
Second, we want good fights, and for us good fights are the ones where each in our group make a difference and play their part. That doesn't happen when you are fighting alongside another dc horde, so we move away from the pug raids trying to claim back rayles without sieging for 3 hours...
And lastly, if we trigger some yellows at a distant outpost, that will be less yellows for our other dc groups to handle, which means they might eventually take back the home keeps.
I have no idea why Yellows do things, but try again, because that sure ain´t the reason.
4 pact was all it took, to scare away your Yellow butts to the blue side all morning.
Only after I did a braindead orc thing and (tried) to lead a pug and crown emp, Big boss showed up with, well a lot!
How is your comment in any way related to mine?0 -
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I can't understand why a group doesn't matter what colour crossing the whole map to capture an outpost on the other side of the map even if they don't even own their own first three keeps or scrolls.
There are multiple reasons why we would do that.
First, we aren't interested in campaign scorings. Why? Because the scoring means nothing since some factions will have locked populations while we sleep, which means that even if we tried, there'd be no way to catch up in the scoring system.
Second, we want good fights, and for us good fights are the ones where each in our group make a difference and play their part. That doesn't happen when you are fighting alongside another dc horde, so we move away from the pug raids trying to claim back rayles without sieging for 3 hours...
And lastly, if we trigger some yellows at a distant outpost, that will be less yellows for our other dc groups to handle, which means they might eventually take back the home keeps.
I have no idea why Yellows do things, but try again, because that sure ain´t the reason.
4 pact was all it took, to scare away your Yellow butts to the blue side all morning.
Only after I did a braindead orc thing and (tried) to lead a pug and crown emp, Big boss showed up with, well a lot!
How is your comment in any way related to mine?
You are well known to zerg on your AD char ofc
@Solar_Breeze
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Berserkur✭✭✭Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »
Like I said, for dc farmgroups (like yours) the own population is perfect,no doubt. But for an "healthy" 3way War it isn't good at all.
Dc population gets better after 7 pm
I cant agree more @Etaniel shouldn't be running with his 2 man farm group on a less active campaign. How dare you Etaniel. .. Shame....
Oh Inzanagi, you won't understand it even if try to explain it to you. Especially if I don't even only mean Etaniel's group. Nvm
I can't understand why a group doesn't matter what colour crossing the whole map to capture an outpost on the other side of the map even if they don't even own their own first three keeps or scrolls.
And for the protocol it wasn't Etaniel's group and it wasn't my intention to insult them( I have a lot more respect for such kind of 2-6 Men group compared to an 12-16 Aoe Blob)
@Berserkur please can you fill me in on your respect chart.
Solo player:
Solo player following zerg:
Pug zerg 48:
Pug zerg 24:
Pug zerg 12-16:
Organised group 24m+:
Organised group 12-16:
Organised group 6-12:
Organised group 2-6:
1 being scum of the earth.
10 being gods among men.
Thanks
@Inzanagi: That wasn't my point and I have a lot respect for what you (for example) are doing and your Groups is very good, no doubt about it. But it doesn´t matter because I have respect for everybody in this Community because we are all human beings but it's too off topic.
@Etaniel: Maybe my Expample with your Group wasn´t the best Choice and it was torn from my actual context. I can imagine it why you do that but I dont get it why a Group let´s say an DC Group take Sejanus with 16 Players and dont take Nikels if they dont own the first 3 keeps after their own gates (just an random example).
But dont get me wrong I dont care about Scores just like you do and if you wanna play this Game that way, i am absolutely fine with that because you can play this Game however you want. Atleast I am a part of your awesome Videos or Streams even if i look really bad inside, but hey...I am a little bit famous
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quite agree with fellah here> MAJORITY of players after so called good "pvp" are after easy ap farming to get big ticks and loads of ap per hour. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOOD PVP.
in world of honour and bravery, good pvp is when you fight against enemies that have an equal chance to win you than they have you. when 10-20 die against 2-4 EASILY every single hour without ever making any kind of progress what they could do differently to win the battle against the few> thats not good pvp, thats slaughter aka ap farming.
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yesterday had good good giggle about azura pc eu>
top of aldmeri, all have 1million ap
top 51 of covenants had 1 million ap
and ebons? they were fairing little bit better.
NEXT
check out the top 20 ap difference in each faction>
aldmeri has total ap of 60 million ap
and rest follows> FAR BEHIND.
Interestingly enough both aldmeri and covenants emperor candinates havent played for 1-2 week now. ap has not changed.Edited by kuro-dono on April 27, 2016 5:16PM0 -
Erondil✭✭✭✭✭
✭In small/medium sized groups the best AP/h only comes with good fights (by good I mean heavily outnumbered fights) so yes if you'e here for good fights you gonna get good AP. And by "good AP farming map" it usually means a map where your group can be away from the rest of the faction and agaisnt alot of mindless players. So a map where you can have good fights.~retired~
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Dennegor NB AD, AvA 50 Grand Overlord 24/05/2016
rekt you NB AD, AvA 32
Erondil Sorc AD, AvA 23
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Etaniel✭✭✭✭✭
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Azura has no stacked guild groups, no lag trains, so it has way better performance than other campaigns with similar populations. Also if you watched the episode od ESO live where Brian talks about how lag happens in Cyro, you'd know that some CP passives have a role to play in that. That's the first reason we are here, less lag.
Second reason is that fights here are more about sustain than burst damage, and that fits my (our group's) playstyle a lot more than using proxy det and vicious death on the CP campaigns.
Pugs are pugs, and they exist on all campaigns, eso is the biggest casual/carebear friendly game I've seen in a long time, so wherever we go we will encounter clueless players.
That second quote is out of context, i was replying to Abraxus if i recall correctly who said it was crap ap to play on Azura.
Second of all, good fights do come with good ap, and especially in this patch, the fewer people in the group, the more ap.
And even if I am an Ap farmer, what's it to you?
Is my gameplay detrimental to others? Am I gatecamping? Am I lagging the server out with my 4 man group? Am I bullying and chasing down others for miles?
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Valencer✭✭✭✭✭
✭The low (sometimes non-existent) blue population during the off-hours is not healthy at all. AD takes all of DC's stuff just about every morning and then throws every body at the east side of the map until EP is pushed away.
The biggest reason campaigns are *** is because people (imo) don't care about campaigns and just hop around looking for fights or stack on their alliance's main campaign (AD azura's, EP trueflame, DC every other campaign). Azura's could be soooo good, but until DC has a stronger presence throughout the day the AD horde is going to be a serious threat to the campaign.Edited by Valencer on April 28, 2016 2:02AM4 -
Abra✭✭✭The order of the day is to kill any moving AD- a healthy AD is an AD
DeadThe low (sometimes non-existent) blue population during the off-hours is not healthy at all. AD takes all of DC's stuff just about every morning and then throws every body at the east side of the map until EP is pushed away.
The biggest reason campaigns are *** is because people (imo) don't care about campaigns and just hop around looking for fights or stack on their alliance's main campaign (AD azura's, EP trueflame, DC every other campaign). Azura's could be soooo good, but until DC has a stronger presence throughout the day the AD horde is going to be a serious threat to the campaign.
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✭✭✭✭TIL: Good fights means going to a campaign full of Banana scrubs and farm them so you can create YouTube videos.3 -
kuro-dono✭✭✭✭thats exacly what these dogs doing kris. all those pros on each side, reds, blues, yellows, come now to azura after realizing how weak they are without cp0
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Etaniel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »TIL: Good fights means going to a campaign full of Banana scrubs and farm them so you can create YouTube videos.
I wont deny that most enemies seem to have trouble even aiming at us, but its the exact same on every campaign, except that on this one they can't rely on the cp system to save them.
Also last vid included some high rank reds as well, but it seems that killing people who outnumber you and actively engage you is bullying and unfair. Sorry for being a better player?
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Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Azura have very good blues, which I THINK are "randoms" or pugs. Pact pugs are dumb no matter what campaign it is.
I lost count how many times our small teams have stopped ADs zerg or flip back the map WITH Big boss muuuch large group online.
I am one of the few who fight to win the campaign and CARE about score. Funny enough, I don't care about AP, but seam to be one of the Pact who gets TONS of AP. I thank ADs large numbers for that.
New month! Lets go! Action!Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
Orc Weapon Specialist and Warchief of the Ebonheart Pact - Trueflame Cyrodiil War Campaign
Guildsite: The Nephilim
"I don't agree with what you are saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"
-Voltaire
"My build? Improvise, overcome and adapt!"1 -
Mauz✭✭✭Azura has no stacked guild groups, no lag trains, so it has way better performance....
Second reason is that fights here are more about sustain than burst damage, and that fits my (our group's) playstyle
Pugs are pugs, and they exist on all campaigns, eso is the biggest casual/carebear friendly game I've seen in a long time, so wherever we go we will encounter clueless players.
I play here cause I lack of CPs like most of Azura players. I want fights on even ground, I dont want to have a disadvantage cause I play less than others. You see the difference?Is my gameplay detrimental to others? Am I gatecamping? Am I lagging the server out with my 4 man group? Am I bullying and chasing down others for miles?
I saw you a couple of times. No you dont lag the server dont and surprisingly you dont seemed to farm AP. At the end of last campaign you'd even less AP I have and I dont go after AP at all. When I met you these where good fights. Mostly with better end on my side ;-)
[/quote]You guys have no clue do you? A campaign full of pugs lead by big boss? Its the best ap farming campain ever!
It's not that I dislike you or what you do in game. But with this quote you started it or at least contributed to the current situation. Currently AP farmers became a decease. They are sitting in towers everywhere.0 -
Valencer✭✭✭✭✭
✭More likely they're sitting in towers everywhere because it's sometimes the only way to have fun when 40 AD come to retake a resource.5
