Azura's Star EU-PC

prootch

Cinbri wrote: »

We need another non-cp campaign.

Rofl... good luck with that.
Azura has been a fun guesting campaign tho, when the lag was killing cp campaings... rip for now.
Always knew you wouldn't enjoy yourself woodworking on an empty map that much.
Then most of your good friends are still there fighting against doors and empty spawns...
Fun I bet.

Mayorz

Angi wrote: »

Other suggestion is stop playing in Azura,so much complains but everyone still getting farmed there,is not fun even for EP, but here you are,generalizin ,like if me or other EPs players,who are even more pissed about how Azura is right now than DC/AD, have any fault about this situation.

Yes because we have another non CP campaign to go to right? and tell that to the 70 EP zerg that swarmed BM last night against 25. Also that double meteor death recap isnt a dot it's been happening all night, When was the last time you even played this campaign and saw what the *** was going on?

Angi

Arthg wrote: »

"A lot?!" Blimey, just how many of you are there?!
'Cause you guys still come in swarms...
Go on leaving then, by all means do...

Yes,a lot,did you know that those who come in swarms like you say are the classic "i dont care of alliance war/ i just go to the buff campaing of my alliance cause is more easy" and blabla?,you know,the ones that when the things turns bad are the first who logged off,if you have been playing this game you could make an idea about what kind of players are those. THATS the real EP population at the moment,they are a lot,even if a lot of EPs dont play there those who remains still more,obviously ,i told you,they want an easy pvp,they are like ants: easy to kill alone but in groups they are strong just cause they are more than DC/AD, dont tell me you see some organization in them,you said it,they swarm.

We had a similar problem with AD 1 half campaing ago,they swarmed all ,always yellow,and those who cared tryed to paint at least our side in red clolour or at least if they preferred more smallscale/gank stuff etc didnt ruin the camping taking keeps when opposite alliance went to sleep,but now, those who dindt help when AD swarmed us,those damn cowards who preferred do PVE or go to another campaing when AD started pushing us instead help,come to Azura and do the same about what we complained.

Angi

Sophieous wrote: »

Not playing there atm, visited it for the fun last night. That wasnt a DoT mate. Saw it cast twice on me, as i saw it afterwards in fights. The lad didn't even try to hide it either.

I'm not even blaming all of EP for the BS one (or more) groups did. It's not even worth logging on there anymore.

prootch wrote: »

If it was really a double meteor (the DoT is another explaination anyway), many have been banned for the use of third party software, so you just have to report together with the picture, for once zos is actually taking action against it.

I don't know,if you say you saw more than 1 Ice Comet hitting you then ill believe you.

Angi

Mayorz wrote: »

Angi wrote: »

Other suggestion is stop playing in Azura,so much complains but everyone still getting farmed there,is not fun even for EP, but here you are,generalizin ,like if me or other EPs players,who are even more pissed about how Azura is right now than DC/AD, have any fault about this situation.

Yes because we have another non CP campaign to go to right? and tell that to the 70 EP zerg that swarmed BM last night against 25. Also that double meteor death recap isnt a dot it's been happening all night, When was the last time you even played this campaign and saw what the *** was going on?

I think i said everything i needed to say,not interesting in spend more time here,if you dont like what i wrote or find it useless is not my problem,have fun in Azura.

Valencer

Mayorz wrote: »

Angi wrote: »

Other suggestion is stop playing in Azura,so much complains but everyone still getting farmed there,is not fun even for EP, but here you are,generalizin ,like if me or other EPs players,who are even more pissed about how Azura is right now than DC/AD, have any fault about this situation.

Yes because we have another non CP campaign to go to right? and tell that to the 70 EP zerg that swarmed BM last night against 25. Also that double meteor death recap isnt a dot it's been happening all night, When was the last time you even played this campaign and saw what the *** was going on?

Whether you like it or not, EP didn't totally quit the campaign when AD was doing this crap over and over every day for over a month. I don't see why it should be any different when it's the other way around.

A lot of the EP that are swarming in now are inexperienced, just like the AD back then were. Should be plentiful AP for any experienced blues and yellows.

Mayorz

Who said i'm totally quitting mate? I'm telling you that this zerg that is pushing hardcore to doors isn't fun for anyone involved. I Can also tell you what EP did do though, They came here to complain on the forums just like what's happening now.

Sophieous

AD were pop locked in Azuras for a month but EP didnt quit? LOL

The time AD were winning the campaign, i dont believe uwere that much into azuras anyway, or i never saw you.

I dnot recall ad doing this for genuinely two campaigns in a row (cus they started from the previous campaigns). Besides AD and DC had a rly nice and healthy competition 2 campaigns ago, as long as points and fighting is concerned.

And a detail that was missed: When ad won the campaign 2 months ago, the EP population was stuck at 1 bar. Only dc were fighting and competing in scores. So they kinda did quit the campaign. Even if ad's glory didnt last for as long. Don't herofy an alliance thats done the same and worse.

This times different cus EP made both alliances leave cus theres literally no fihting going on whatsoever. At least when AD were winning, there was fighting between them and the DC.

Valencer

That is just factually incorrect. The only reason DC was competitive points-wise when AD was dominating was because DC got a GIGANTIC low pop bonus for weeks on end.

DC was always behind in pop compared to EP and AD and the only reason they held any ground at that point was because AD was too busy pushing EP all day (because that is where the AP was) and they could PvDoor some keeps in the west. EP had a competitive population during prime time... just not in the off-hours which is when AD usually took the whole map.

When AD was winning there was plenty of red PUG action in general and there were several red guilds active in azura's trying to fight back and retake the ground that AD took every other night. Compare that to AD's current irrelevance, and you might see my point.

Not even trying to go all PACT STRONK here. I just want good action back in azura's as no-CP PvP is a lot more fun when it's not as unbalanced pop-wise as it is now. But people are trying to turn this into such a one-sided problem when it's not.

ToRelax

Sophieous wrote: »

AD were pop locked in Azuras for a month but EP didnt quit? LOL

The time AD were winning the campaign, i dont believe uwere that much into azuras anyway, or i never saw you.

I dnot recall ad doing this for genuinely two campaigns in a row (cus they started from the previous campaigns). Besides AD and DC had a rly nice and healthy competition 2 campaigns ago, as long as points and fighting is concerned.

And a detail that was missed: When ad won the campaign 2 months ago, the EP population was stuck at 1 bar. Only dc were fighting and competing in scores. So they kinda did quit the campaign. Even if ad's glory didnt last for as long. Don't herofy an alliance thats done the same and worse.

This times different cus EP made both alliances leave cus theres literally no fihting going on whatsoever. At least when AD were winning, there was fighting between them and the DC.

Nope, we still get both AD and DC to at least medium population most days, sometimes one even goes up to high.

bronski

ToRelax wrote: »

Nope, we still get both AD and DC to at least medium population most days, sometimes one even goes up to high.

that's because the dc that home azura havo not yet left the campaign. the situation is quite bad (as in "not fun") and to be honest imho much worst then when it was ad painting the map yellow because at least at prime time the map was looking much better.

On a side note, i met your evil dc twin a couple of nights ago defending ni mokh against the red horde

Sophieous

-

Sophieous

-

Sophieous

bronski wrote: »

the situation is quite bad (as in "not fun") and to be honest imho much worst then when it was ad painting the map yellow because at least at prime time the map was looking much better.

This.

I don't think anyone's trying to finger point anyone, all alliances have f***** it up at some point or another, but things got back to normal after a while. This thing keeps going on for 2 campaigns now. And it's not badmouthing someone when it's simply stating the facts. And at this point, its not DC or AD who are causing this and are not letting it get better and again, it's been 2 campaigns.

Can I give champagne to you all so we can relax now, thnx

Arthg

Utterly boring.
There are organized EP guilds with high-ranking players just running around like headless chickens in keeps to farm AP.
Then waiting for hours in towers in the hope that blue pugs get in.
These guys could at least gtfo for some real fights in other campaigns, 'cause a lot of the DC players that are left are experienced and know better than handing out free AP.
I'm honestly surprised these guilds don't look elsewhere.

ToRelax

.

Arthg wrote: »

Utterly boring.
There are organized EP guilds with high-ranking players just running around like headless chickens in keeps to farm AP.
Then waiting for hours in towers in the hope that blue pugs get in.
These guys could at least gtfo for some real fights in other campaigns, 'cause a lot of the DC players that are left are experienced and know better than handing out free AP.
I'm honestly surprised these guilds don't look elsewhere.

The vast majority of players are pretty bad, on any faction. That only changes after a campaign is truly deserted, with nothing happening safe one of the underdog factions taking a resource sometimes. Which is definitely not the case on AS, yet.
Aside from that, there is no other non CP campaign except BB.

RoamingRiverElk

The reason why some experienced players with more than 501 CP play on Azura is because they simply prefer the combat on Azura since damage is lower and resource management matters. To me, the combat there feels much more like the ESO fighting system should be, and it reminds me of the earlier stages of the game that were more fun than the current damage meta. For example, I love that getting CC'd while one has enough stamina for breaking free, one can still often survive on Azura, even if one doesn't have a damage shield on.

Recently, our small EP PvP guild has been lamenting the population imbalance on Azura. Some of us are considering leveling AD alts for this reason because there just aren't enough fights one could fight where the EP zerg isn't there too.

It's unfortunate that Azura is the campaign for the new players who are so excited about trying to win the campaign that the health of the campaign doesn't matter to them at all. Recently one player was basically saying in zone that there was a tactic that involved having having more people / demoralizing the enemy. ... -.- Apparently another player (this one is actually very experienced) wanted to push the enemy to their gates so that there would be more enemies that way. I don't agree with that, but I guess we may just have to wait until DC and AD become so enraged that they somehow muster pop locked masses into the campaign anyway. If that will ever happen... There are voices in EP zone who keep reminding players not to go too far, but it's not like they can stop their own faction from proceeding on their EP characters.

Dimentiza

Recently one player was basically saying in zone that there was a tactic that involved having having more people / demoralizing the enemy. ... -.- Apparently another player (this one is actually very experienced) wanted to push the enemy to their gates so that there would be more enemies that way.

Yeah... I think they demoralized people long time ago. And the pushing to the gate thingy just drives more and more people out. This kind of toxic thinking kills the game but these people don't see it because everything must be about them and their AP gains and winning even tho it means ruining the game for the rest of the player base.

Arthg

ToRelax wrote: »

.

Arthg wrote: »

Utterly boring.
There are organized EP guilds with high-ranking players just running around like headless chickens in keeps to farm AP.
Then waiting for hours in towers in the hope that blue pugs get in.
These guys could at least gtfo for some real fights in other campaigns, 'cause a lot of the DC players that are left are experienced and know better than handing out free AP.
I'm honestly surprised these guilds don't look elsewhere.

The vast majority of players are pretty bad, on any faction. That only changes after a campaign is truly deserted, with nothing happening safe one of the underdog factions taking a resource sometimes. Which is definitely not the case on AS, yet.
Aside from that, there is no other non CP campaign except BB.

Not sure I understand what you're talking about, here, sorry

It seems you're generalizing, while I was talking about a specific situation - namely what I saw last night.
Last night there were organized EP guilds with high-ranking players running round like headless chickens or waiting for ages in towers, hardly farming anything because the DC opposition knew better.
I don't understand why these guys aren't looking for more interesting fights elsewhere.
Even if they were looking for nothing else than farming AP (which clearly was what they were looking for), how could it be profitable when their faction is poplocked and winning, and the opposition scarce?

Beats me.

Leandor

Sophieous wrote: »

Angi wrote: »

You're welcome

Also, sweetheart, give my thanks to ur EP group for using cheats on a dead campaign. Clap clap

Tonight's fight at BM where 50+ EP were camping the 20 AD that are left in this campaign.

Actual disgrace.

That screenshot just says that you haven't yet learned to step out of the stupid. Meteor has been that way since ever, it shows the direct hit as well as the dot damage on death recap.

Mind, we all are aware of the CE incident, I am not disputing your statement per se, just saying that your screenshot prooves nothing at all.

Sophieous

I'm not gonna turn this thread into whether i was right or wrong mate. I saw 2 meteors fall on me. Two round circles around my feet. And i dodged and blocked and since the recap only shows the last 5 spells hit on u, the guy was spamming cfrag the way before. The guy also admitted it, and he's got a name for himself in zone chat

And it was happening all night.

And the ticket was sent, hopefully I was in the wrong.

Meanwhile, last night's azuras, was 3 EP bars, 1 AD and 2 DC on a Friday night...

kuro-dono

Its real shame that players cant control themself. Need zenimax to manup and give SERIOUS boost to underdogs, not just some pathetic boost to their score per hour, Another is dynamic pop caps. Azura can be so easily saved but why bother if any faction at any given time when there is no resistance will clean the map totally into one color.

I am still busy farming my stuff so i am not there to lead, bit annoyed of my guildies who cant think out of box and focus only on AP. everytime its ap that and ap this, so my pro ap "farming" guildies go trueflame, since whats the point trying to be at azura if you get overrun by 20 red or 30 or 50.

I will lead when i am mentally rdy to lead. Until then community at azura can keep blaming themself as much as they want.

Good luck out there! i will show up when i get trinimac valor shield + sword which i think eta is 5 month away

Dakrana_Thrazvoth

So everybody give up to play on Azura it seems ? If no one come back and continue to fight even if reds are still zerging everything on the map, Azura will never change and keep for a long time this horrible situation. Come back with your courage and motivation show to the reds how they are wrong. In my opinion we are all responsible of this situation

sphane

Arthg wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

.

Arthg wrote: »

Utterly boring.
There are organized EP guilds with high-ranking players just running around like headless chickens in keeps to farm AP.
Then waiting for hours in towers in the hope that blue pugs get in.
These guys could at least gtfo for some real fights in other campaigns, 'cause a lot of the DC players that are left are experienced and know better than handing out free AP.
I'm honestly surprised these guilds don't look elsewhere.

The vast majority of players are pretty bad, on any faction. That only changes after a campaign is truly deserted, with nothing happening safe one of the underdog factions taking a resource sometimes. Which is definitely not the case on AS, yet.
Aside from that, there is no other non CP campaign except BB.

Not sure I understand what you're talking about, here, sorry

It seems you're generalizing, while I was talking about a specific situation - namely what I saw last night.
Last night there were organized EP guilds with high-ranking players running round like headless chickens or waiting for ages in towers, hardly farming anything because the DC opposition knew better.
I don't understand why these guys aren't looking for more interesting fights elsewhere.
Even if they were looking for nothing else than farming AP (which clearly was what they were looking for), how could it be profitable when their faction is poplocked and winning, and the opposition scarce?

Beats me.

You dont want to understand that being high ranked and cp 500+ doesn't mean we all want to enter damage meta crap in cp campaign.

Actually, we are running a 6-8 men group trying to fight outnumbered opposition far from the zerg which is hard these days. When me manage to, it doesn't last long, just the time that zerg understand there is a strange battle somewhere.

We are indeed sometime doing tower defense when too much come to us. But if nobody is coming inside we go out and let enemy chase us to find a better position to get an advantage against numbers.Believe me or not, but making ap is side effect.

In the current situation, even if sometimes we are close of the zerg because at some point there is no other battle, we always go on the side, giving enemy a chance to fight or chase a small group. At this point when the zerg is starting to siege, we never support sieges, never rushing the flags, and 70% of time we are leaving the place, because we want you to win the defense. When we stay, we are just leeching offensive tick if you lose against the zerg.

We want to stay Azura and we are starting to reroll AD. Even some guildies which said "never", are changing their mind.

Believe me or not, but we did enjoy better when ep was underdog and we are here only because it's non cp campaign.

Sophieous

Azura's a few mins ago:

EP was getting wrkt hard when it was even numbers, say 30-30, then they did the obvious and just tried to slow us down at Sej before the zerg came. They are predictable as well. Only way they can win is if they are outnumbering. No skill, no stragegy, just zerg.

Sej and Ale:





Laters

Arthg

sphane wrote: »

Arthg wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

.

Arthg wrote: »

Utterly boring.
There are organized EP guilds with high-ranking players just running around like headless chickens in keeps to farm AP.
Then waiting for hours in towers in the hope that blue pugs get in.
These guys could at least gtfo for some real fights in other campaigns, 'cause a lot of the DC players that are left are experienced and know better than handing out free AP.
I'm honestly surprised these guilds don't look elsewhere.

The vast majority of players are pretty bad, on any faction. That only changes after a campaign is truly deserted, with nothing happening safe one of the underdog factions taking a resource sometimes. Which is definitely not the case on AS, yet.
Aside from that, there is no other non CP campaign except BB.

Not sure I understand what you're talking about, here, sorry

It seems you're generalizing, while I was talking about a specific situation - namely what I saw last night.
Last night there were organized EP guilds with high-ranking players running round like headless chickens or waiting for ages in towers, hardly farming anything because the DC opposition knew better.
I don't understand why these guys aren't looking for more interesting fights elsewhere.
Even if they were looking for nothing else than farming AP (which clearly was what they were looking for), how could it be profitable when their faction is poplocked and winning, and the opposition scarce?

Beats me.

You dont want to understand that being high ranked and cp 500+ doesn't mean we all want to enter damage meta crap in cp campaign.

Actually, we are running a 6-8 men group trying to fight outnumbered opposition far from the zerg which is hard these days. When me manage to, it doesn't last long, just the time that zerg understand there is a strange battle somewhere.

We are indeed sometime doing tower defense when too much come to us. But if nobody is coming inside we go out and let enemy chase us to find a better position to get an advantage against numbers.Believe me or not, but making ap is side effect.

In the current situation, even if sometimes we are close of the zerg because at some point there is no other battle, we always go on the side, giving enemy a chance to fight or chase a small group. At this point when the zerg is starting to siege, we never support sieges, never rushing the flags, and 70% of time we are leaving the place, because we want you to win the defense. When we stay, we are just leeching offensive tick if you lose against the zerg.

We want to stay Azura and we are starting to reroll AD. Even some guildies which said "never", are changing their mind.

Believe me or not, but we did enjoy better when ep was underdog and we are here only because it's non cp campaign.

Thanks for the explanation
Then it probably wasn't your group I saw because in the keep (Rayles?) they clearly were running the "meta crap" you're denouncing, and it took them at least 15 minutes to jump out of the tower (Glade lumber?) even though nobody was getting inside.

I understand your frustration and salute your concern to keep the campaign alive. Rolling AD, however...
I'd sooner play a CP-campaign

See you on the battlefield.

CoachPower

Vâo wrote: »

So everybody give up to play on Azura it seems ? If no one come back and continue to fight even if reds are still zerging everything on the map, Azura will never change and keep for a long time this horrible situation. Come back with your courage and motivation show to the reds how they are wrong. In my opinion we are all responsible of this situation

Pretty much this. The covenants in Azura lack proper leadership, last night I watched most online covenants trying to get lots of ebons in Glade lumber tower instead of grouping up and trying to push a keep, why? Nobody to lead them. The experienced players do not have the patience to teach newer players therefore they don't group up with them and that just leaves players randomly running around "lfg". These days covenants in Azura is just filled with small scale heroes trying to prove that can 1vX without actually contributing towards the campaign.

Mauz

Arthg wrote: »

Utterly boring.
There are organized EP guilds with high-ranking players just running around like headless chickens in keeps to farm AP.
Then waiting for hours in towers in the hope that blue pugs get in.
These guys could at least gtfo for some real fights in other campaigns, 'cause a lot of the DC players that are left are experienced and know better than handing out free AP.
I'm honestly surprised these guilds don't look elsewhere.

Thats the reason why I left this campaign. It could have been kind of fun to trick them so that they dont get you but no chance. Performance drops to zero, game freeze, dead. I give a *** who wins campaigns or if one faction has more ppl. But this kind of "PvP" is plain stupid. Sounds funny but as a casual you have more fun in Trueflame than in Azura what has in my understanding been made for casuals and noobs with much less than cp cap.

Cogo

AD have zip and pip to say about any full pop vs low, Mkay?

DC are doing fantastic for PUGS....no idea how, but they beat back 40 pact with 5.

We need more AD to Azura please! I miss my 400K AP nights! Please come back Big Boss Phoenix!

Sophieous

The blues are genuinely about to dethrone you again and you still push and wipe AD at faregyl. Dont give me the skilled pug blablabla bs. Who cannot take an empty keep with 3 sieges. Literally no resistance.

I dont know why you push Fare, when the blues have taken everything from you. ***.