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#MonopolisingTheFun

Berserkur

We will see how long you gonna have fun with farming ap without an real competition for you guys. Like I said in Morrow's Thread: enjoy your stay here. I hope there will be more guilds and/ or groups follow you

Dakrana_Thrazvoth

Berserkur wrote: »

We will see how long you gonna have fun with farming ap without an real competition for you guys. Like I said in Morrow's Thread: enjoy your stay here. I hope there will be more guilds and/ or groups follow you

One ball group ap farmer is enough (and not necessary) for azura, we dont need others groups like that.

Berserkur

Vâo wrote: »

Berserkur wrote: »

We will see how long you gonna have fun with farming ap without an real competition for you guys. Like I said in Morrow's Thread: enjoy your stay here. I hope there will be more guilds and/ or groups follow you

One ball group ap farmer is enough (and not necessary) for azura, we dont need others groups like that.

Maybe, I don't know. Let me change my post into: I hope more players will follow them because they have a huge reputation for other players and maybe they make Azura more attractive for other players. All I want are equal numbers of players on all 3 sides and if they are able to bind 30-40 enemy's just to fight them its ok for me.

Rosvira

Equal numbers will never happen if one alliance keeps zerging down the whole map, just really puts people off playing there

Berserkur

It doens´t matter because the "hate" against EP is so stronk and the only fraction who take a benefit of, is DC because of low pop bonus^^. The Problem now with Zerg squad (no offense) is that the whole ad pop runs with them or follow them, if they like it or not. So there are equal Blobs of numbers now^^.

Baragorath

Berserkur wrote: »

It doens´t matter because the "hate" against EP is so stronk and the only fraction who take a benefit of, is DC because of low pop bonus^^. The Problem now with Zerg squad (no offense) is that the whole ad pop runs with them or follow them, if they like it or not. So there are equal Blobs of numbers now^^.

Correction - there is no any organized guild run on Azura at the moment from Pact side and thats why they have AP farm fest.

They tactic is always same:

1 - overheal - in all they tactics
2 - proxy or other time based aoe
3 - steel tornado

If pact player dies he respawn and like blind horse run back to them to die.

Leandor

Baragorath, that is largely because

1. Pact does not have good leaders that make the effort to bring the rabble into a cohesive group, and
2. The majority of outspoken pact players of a certain standard of play are absolutely convinced that they alone know how things work and would never stoop down to follow someone else.

and that is not only all there is to it, but also universal over all campaigns.

Baragorath

Leandor wrote: »

Baragorath, that is largely because

1. Pact does not have good leaders that make the effort to bring the rabble into a cohesive group, and
2. The majority of outspoken pact players of a certain standard of play are absolutely convinced that they alone know how things work and would never stoop down to follow someone else.

and that is not only all there is to it, but also universal over all campaigns.

@Leandor I can agree with you only regarding point no.2.

If few days are enough for certain players to step down from raid build to cookie build with light armor gear use then none of good raid leaders wanna lead anymore nowadays.

I observe high ranked players running solo as it can give them more APs then run in not effective zerg raid.

I also prefer nowadays solo as can switch on my lovely music without need of permanently speaking and explaining tactics.

Leandor

"I could but I won't". This is the problem. What I tried to say is that EP-EU does not have enough people that say "I could so I will" when it comes to leading.

So, I stand by my comment, pact does not have enough leaders that change the pact army from bad-zerg to coordinated groups.

I have made this experience myself. The same guys from my guild running together with or without our raidlead is a difference like day and night.

Red is bad because they lose with 30 against 10. Add a proper raid lead and the same 30 will win against 60, a.k.a. prootch zerg.

prootch

Rofl and rofl again... forum bs remain forum bs of an excuse for ep wipes. I dunno where you get figures but you'd better learn to count... aside from learning to lead a group. I dunno which is your guild, but you... are certainly a joke of scout with this post over group size.

We... don't lead multiple groups. So this are poor excuses for your chain wipes which makes other raidleads "smile" on DC side... since it's been ages we don't need to coordinate anything to crush ep.

EP has been actually chain wiping in heavy proportion against our group (black tabard) over the last weeks... so yes you do wipe 30 to 10 off prime sometimes, you also do wipe 40 to 20 in prime time... like just yesterday on tf.

We very seldom play on azura now, we have been there twice over the last two weeks, so whatever fantasm of 60 you get there are from other guilds ^^ and... it's absolutly true you lack proper raidleads.

Now we do have several previous ep players in our warband who did judge the situation from both side: so thanks for making our whole guild laugh their ass off... this overestimation of Blackswords havoc is... just fresh.

Leandor

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Valencer

Leandor wrote: »

Baragorath, that is largely because

1. Pact does not have good leaders that make the effort to bring the rabble into a cohesive group, and
2. The majority of outspoken pact players of a certain standard of play are absolutely convinced that they alone know how things work and would never stoop down to follow someone else.

and that is not only all there is to it, but also universal over all campaigns.

Are you talking guild groups or PUGs?

PUGs are what they are... there's either going to be people online willing to lead "randoms" around or there's not, in which case the alliance generally performs very poorly. But how well have AD PUGs been doing in Azura's ever since Big Boss left? It's not an EP-specific thing.

My impression of Azura's EP right now is that there's almost no organisation going on until decimation elite starts a raid and the whole alliance follows them around.

But really, what point is there in leading a horde of pop locked reds vs medium/medium opposition? It's not exactly gratifying in any way. Can't blame anyone for not wanting to lead a PUG under these circumstances.

Leandor

@Valencer I actually mean the next step up from pug, but not yet guild groups. Pugs wipe and the only countermeasure is stacking people. Random ts groups as more frequent in bwb will show people that coordination and leadership is the solution not body stacking.

We lack people who take the challenge of training randooms and are also good leaders with the right tactical understanding. I can only tell what I have seen myself and sadly I am one of those that fail spectacularly with leading. But I do appreciate a good leader very much.

Berserkur

EP are imo just what they and what everybody should be on Azura: mostly noobish fights and mostly no crownstacking Proxi, Negate and Steeltornado Train groups but since Zerg squad showed up here and now Astrum too (no offense at all to both guilds), there is nothing left for me what i understand about having fun.
Btw. if you all leave Trueflame or whatever because it laggs too much, you will see that Azura gonna lagg the sh..out of the Server too.
Of course Ep thrown too many bodies into an fight and they still lost, because they still were pugs most of the time.
Too be honest: EP are no Thread at all on Azura, they dont take care of the Basics of eso pvp /repairing walls, scouting keeps,rezzing fallen or place an camp etc. etc. Most of the Player joined Azura after BwB and maybe they dont know it better or they just dont care, i dont know.
But it must be really challenging at all for all those hardcore coordinated groups/guilds to chainwipe pugs and really low ranked pvp Players on Azura and still having fun.
Luckily the Campaign is over soon and we'll see what happens in the next round.

Sophieous

So one proper AD guild joins Azura, and you make a huge deal out of it about the poor really low ranked EP PUGS that get wiped and how much the campaign's gonna lag now. FYI they do their own thing and if they feel like it they join us. And they wipe you with no more than 12-15 pp, sometimes even less than 10.

And don't forget the "poor lower ranked" AD pr DC players who join the only non cp campaign to see what it's like, and they face a nightcapped red map, all scrolls taken, and pop locked by EP at 1 pm, on a chill Saturday morning.

Berserkur

ok, you totally missed my point

bronski

Berserkur wrote: »

EP are imo just what they and what everybody should be on Azura: mostly noobish fights and mostly no crownstacking Proxi, Negate and Steeltornado Train groups but since Zerg squad showed up here and now Astrum too (no offense at all to both guilds), there is nothing left for me what i understand about having fun.

he understood you clearly, he just disagree that what everybody in azura should be is a huge zerg that knows stacking bodies as the only viable tactic to accomplish anything.

you say you stopped having fun when zerg squad and astrum showed up, for most people on ad and dc the campaign hasn't been fun for more than a month because of the huge ep zerg that has no problem ruining a campaign because they know that the second they don't outnumber the other factions 3:1 they are done.

it doesn't help that the experienced players that should lead them or teach new players, were busy pvdooring the map red between 3 and 7am.

on a side note for me it's been way more fun fighting zerg squad (12 people) than it is fighting the red zerg, even tho against zerg squad we most likely wipe and against red we most likely get a bunch of ap.

Baragorath

@bronski



And time will reveal the truth as all those guilds left Azura and their cries were such loud that few Azura Star forum threads were closed by moderators....

bronski

i have no clue what you are trying to say. i don't know of any guild that left azura, just some that guest here because its easy to farm ap.

i home azura and still hope there is going to be some fun pvp to be had withouth the crap you guys have been pulling over the last month and a half.

if dc was doing what you are doing i would say the same thing.

Baragorath

bronski wrote: »

i have no clue what you are trying to say. i don't know of any guild that left azura, just some that guest here because its easy to farm ap.

i home azura and still hope there is going to be some fun pvp to be had withouth the crap you guys have been pulling over the last month and a half.

if dc was doing what you are doing i would say the same thing.

If you have no clue why you speak at all....

Your ex Banana Mousse and Exile Heroes.

bronski

you are just trying too hard to sound clever, but you lack the wits and your english is just plain bad.

exile never homed azura after it went no cp, and i haven't been a fan of prootch guesting here either. (but it doesn't happen that often anymore).

if you have something to say just try with your own words, we'll still love you for the very special snowflake you are.

Baragorath

bronski wrote: »

you are just trying too hard to sound clever, but you lack the wits and your english is just plain bad.

exile never homed azura after it went no cp, and i haven't been a fan of prootch guesting here either. (but it doesn't happen that often anymore).

if you have something to say just try with your own words, we'll still love you for the very special snowflake you are.

Honestly I dont even know who you are except your polish surname Mr. Nobody.

You play bananas, smurfs or tomatoes side?

Good luck with your hope...

Rosvira

I'm the one claiming guilds left Azura, by this I meant you may have noticed guilds who used to play regularly - home or guest - have just stopped because of the lack of fun. You can cry about the poor EP randoms, PUGs, low ranking players but at the end of the day, EP stacks as many numbers as it can. Not to mention the almost nightcapped emp at 5am.

bronski

Baragorath wrote: »

Honestly I dont even know who you are except your polish surname Mr. Nobody.

You play bananas, smurfs or tomatoes side?

Good luck with your hope...

i play mostly dc, but have ep chars too. what difference does it make?

a lot of ep that used to home here left too because having the map one color isn't fun for anyone.

this time it's red, it would be the same crap if it was blue or yellow.

Sophieous

Another campaign is over and I wanted to say congrats to both AD and DC for putting up with this c**p for yet another campaign. The past week has seen some pretty good defenses, as well as offenses by the brave Bananas.

This campaign should have been won by the DC, they played better and smarter than both of the other alliances, although EP's desperate tries to win, nightcapping at like 4-5 am probs made them go slit slit and didn't even bother fighting during the weekend, they were non existent.

Bright example today, logged on at 9 to see the red emp yet again reigning for 4 hours

I've gotta give it to a handful of EP players who are also fed up with the situation.

To the people who feel happy and proud they won this campaign by such terms, zerging, nightcapping and gate camping when the pop was 1 line, I genuinely hope we will not see you on the grounds of Azura this time round. So many other campaigns to broaden your horizons.

Hopefully this campaign will attract more blue and yellow players and will see such fights as there once were a couple of months ago.

Kelces

Sophieous wrote: »

...This campaign should have been won by the DC...

They didn't? Interesting, Just yesterday I thought, they would count on their "low population" bonus to still win this, albeit a close one. Seems like a display bug after all.

Sophieous

All they did yesterday was try to take Warden and Rayles while EP was megazerging AD at Alessia, Fare etc.

Oh yeah they did smartly take a couple of scrolls as well that ended up in vain.

Berserkur

DC didn' t won and EP did? This will be the first and hopefully the last Campaign victory I am not proud of.

snejremllov

On a positive note, we should thank the players on Azura for occupying Decimation Elite the worst zerg this game has ever seen. Trueflame can be quite playable nowadays without them stacking multiple organised raids on the same spot.