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Why ultimate not scale with HP ?
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Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Marktoneth3 wrote: »Anyone can explain ?
If you can explain why the HP does not improve your defence while magicka/stamina improves your damage.Because I can!3 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Most ults deal damage or heal and as such should scale with the stats for dealing damage such as magika and stamina. To scale an ult off HP would hinder players builds.
However, the OP doesn't seem very conversational on his topic so not sure where he intends to go with this?0 -
Marktoneth3✭✭✭Marktoneth3 wrote: »Anyone can explain ?
If you can explain why the HP does not improve your defence while magicka/stamina improves your damage.
Ask the developers0 -
TheValkyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Marktoneth3 wrote: »Anyone can explain ?
If you can explain why the HP does not improve your defence while magicka/stamina improves your damage.
Furthermore, if they can explain why stam/mag determine heal strength as well as strength of defensive abilities. This game had zero intention of embracing the trinity. The rule is to stack stamina or magicka otherwise you're out of luck. I still believe that regular RPG elements should have been implemented.
Endurance stat which determines your shield strength and defensive ability effectiveness
Willpower or Restoration stat which determines heal strength
Then keep weapon and spell damage for their appropriate damage abilities.
I understand that Skyrim didn't have these but it's foolish or lazy to not have implemented them into this game.2 -
Marktoneth3✭✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »Marktoneth3 wrote: »
idk if troll or serious right now
I'm serious1 -
EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭Cause that makes no sense.Xbox One [ NA ]
Gamertag - Zyzz II Legacy
Stam Sorc & Stam NB PvP
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Wollust✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Because ultimates behave like most damage and healing skills, scaling from the damage resource.
No idea why health was made so meaningless, but well.Susano'o
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Goatius✭Well it would be nice to have ultimate that are based on stamina for us stamina users instead of just all magicka damage. Ultimates are pretty weak for us compared to magicka based characters and I'd rather have an extra ability slot instead of an ultimate slot0
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Marktoneth3✭✭✭Well it would be nice to have ultimate that are based on stamina for us stamina users instead of just all magicka damage. Ultimates are pretty weak for us compared to magicka based characters and I'd rather have an extra ability slot instead of an ultimate slot
ultimate shouldn't has any specific type of damage.Nor physical or magicka.
It should have been only pure damage.0 -
Goatius✭So a ultimate that draws from HP would be a nice diversity too for the tanks who have everything in health0
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failkiwib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭So a ultimate that draws from HP would be a nice diversity too for the tanks who have everything in health
@Goatius I am curious, why would a tank put everything into health?1 -
Marktoneth3✭✭✭failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »
As a DK tank.
The more health you have the more Dragon blood can heal you with a massive missing health.All healer will love you.
Seriously some lying healers only do DPS instead of healing me.That's what more health is the way to go.0 -
Frawr✭✭✭✭✭Marktoneth3 wrote: »failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »
As a DK tank.
The more health you have the more Dragon blood can heal you with a massive missing health.All healer will love you.
Seriously some lying healers only do DPS instead of healing me.That's what more health is the way to go.
Sadly, in cyrodil, there is no avoiding it's uselessness.
If I have 40k health and I am down to 2k the gdb will heal me for 6.25k.
The average wrecking blow hits normal heavy armour for 5k-7k
And who has 40k HP.
Oh zenimax. ..2 -
Marktoneth3✭✭✭Marktoneth3 wrote: »failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »
As a DK tank.
The more health you have the more Dragon blood can heal you with a massive missing health.All healer will love you.
Seriously some lying healers only do DPS instead of healing me.That's what more health is the way to go.
Sadly, in cyrodil, there is no avoiding it's uselessness.
If I have 40k health and I am down to 2k the gdb will heal me for 6.25k.
The average wrecking blow hits normal heavy armour for 5k-7k
And who has 40k HP.
Oh zenimax. ..
I have 41k health in PVE
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
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Certainly not completely correct.Marktoneth3 wrote: »Anyone can explain ?
If you can explain why the HP does not improve your defence while magicka/stamina improves your damage.
Furthermore, if they can explain why stam/mag determine heal strength as well as strength of defensive abilities. This game had zero intention of embracing the trinity. The rule is to stack stamina or magicka otherwise you're out of luck. I still believe that regular RPG elements should have been implemented.
Endurance stat which determines your shield strength and defensive ability effectiveness
Willpower or Restoration stat which determines heal strength
Then keep weapon and spell damage for their appropriate damage abilities.
I understand that Skyrim didn't have these but it's foolish or lazy to not have implemented them into this game.
Never have the devs stated they had no intention of embracing the trinity. Absolutely never. They have said the trinity was not required but considering certain content it is clear that is not completely true.
As for some stats from previous TES games and his any stats worked their vs ESO, the answer is easy. This is an MMO and mechanics and builds are not bbiousky different for the ESO design.
it is a little much to expect the devs to answer why certain stats from old TES games are not present or work differently in ESO when the game has been out for 2 years. I think they have more important topics to tackle.
You can always ask this in an Ask us anything forum.0 -
Frawr✭✭✭✭✭Marktoneth3 wrote: »Marktoneth3 wrote: »failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »
As a DK tank.
The more health you have the more Dragon blood can heal you with a massive missing health.All healer will love you.
Seriously some lying healers only do DPS instead of healing me.That's what more health is the way to go.
Sadly, in cyrodil, there is no avoiding it's uselessness.
If I have 40k health and I am down to 2k the gdb will heal me for 6.25k.
The average wrecking blow hits normal heavy armour for 5k-7k
And who has 40k HP.
Oh zenimax. ..
I have 41k health in PVE
It's fine in pve. It's the 1-size-fits-all pvp nerf that is the problem.0 -
Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »
Why would a sorc put everything into magicka?
cus of the 15k+ shields they can get add that to the 16k hp and they have now 31k hp and hit like a truck
so they don't need hp points
@GoatiusEdited by Lightninvash on March 30, 2016 4:22PM2 -
Frawr✭✭✭✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »
Why would a sorc put everything into magicka?
cus of the 15k+ shields they can get add that to the 16k hp and they have now 31k hp and hit like a truck so they don't need hp points
@Goatius
Exactly.
All shields should scale with health.0 -
Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »
Why would a sorc put everything into magicka?
cus of the 15k+ shields they can get add that to the 16k hp and they have now 31k hp and hit like a truck so they don't need hp points
@Goatius
Exactly.
All shields should scale with health.
I think it should be phy and spell damage that are scaled to hp so tanks can have a butt load of defense not specifically shields but having some that scale off hp would be nice... and not like the Templar one that scales off hp and lasts only 6 secs haha0 -
Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭B/c tanks can also use many of the ultis for utility already. Be a DK for super useful tanking ults.Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Reapor✭✭✭If anything ultimates base damage should be nerfed, then make the damage scale off total stam and magicka.
OR
Buff the base damage and dont make them scale from anything.
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Nerf base damage and scale it off weapon damage and spell damage, so better weapons ect stronger ultis
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Leave it as it is lol.Edited by Reapor on March 30, 2016 5:22PM0
