Move Rally

Vaoh

There are two Stamina heals in ESO. One is a HoT skill (Vigor), and the other is a very necessary burst heal locked inside of the 2-Handed skill line. My suggestion is to move this ability into the Fighter's Guild skill line, unlockable at Rank 5 (since Vigor is in Rank 5 for PvP). Momentum itself would become a sixth active skill for the Fighter's Guild. 2-Handed can be given something new, a nice buff kind of like what Dual Wield was given.

I hate that I am forced to use a 2H for my Stamplar to have access to a heal when I want to use Dual Wield/One Hand and Shield instead.

Zyeriik

No

I am the biggest 2h fan in tamriel and this would break my little heart. Lol.

khele23eb17_ESO

Yes

Zyeriik wrote: »

I am the biggest 2h fan in tamriel and this would break my little heart. Lol.

But youd still be able to use it with your 2h build and maybe the 2h skill line would get something cool to replace it.

The Uninvited

No

You play a Templar and need 2H for heal?

Zyeriik

No

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Zyeriik wrote: »

I am the biggest 2h fan in tamriel and this would break my little heart. Lol.

But youd still be able to use it with your 2h build and maybe the 2h skill line would get something cool to replace it.

True but I would lose my fave skill in my fave skill line ... I mean rally is the first thing I brag about when gushing about 2h lol. Silly reason but oh wells.

The Uninvited wrote: »

You play a Templar and need 2H for heal?

I was thinking the same thing. My stamplar has decent heals from restoring light line used as a magicka dump.

theher0not

No

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Zyeriik wrote: »

I am the biggest 2h fan in tamriel and this would break my little heart. Lol.

But youd still be able to use it with your 2h build and maybe the 2h skill line would get something cool to replace it.

But if it was in dw I would be forced to use that sure it is good, but I don't like to play with it.

ADarklore

No

They don't need to MOVE it, they simply need to give ALL classes a self-heal/damage buff skill.

Ffastyl

It's an interesting thought, but I think the replacement skill should be thought out before I vote in any direction.

KingDuncanVII

I think the sustaining abilities of each class should have a Stamina Morph.

Strider_Roshin

No

No, what they need to do instead is give Templars a class ability that gives major Brutality, and get rid of Blood Funnel, and turn it into a burst stamina heal instead.

Jules

Zyeriik wrote: »

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Zyeriik wrote: »

I am the biggest 2h fan in tamriel and this would break my little heart. Lol.

But youd still be able to use it with your 2h build and maybe the 2h skill line would get something cool to replace it.

True but I would lose my fave skill in my fave skill line ... I mean rally is the first thing I brag about when gushing about 2h lol. Silly reason but oh wells.

The Uninvited wrote: »

You play a Templar and need 2H for heal?

I was thinking the same thing. My stamplar has decent heals from restoring light line used as a magicka dump.

Why would you use magicka heals on a stam build? Rally/Vigor is definitely the most common way to go.

The Uninvited

No

Jules wrote: »

Zyeriik wrote: »

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Zyeriik wrote: »

I am the biggest 2h fan in tamriel and this would break my little heart. Lol.

But youd still be able to use it with your 2h build and maybe the 2h skill line would get something cool to replace it.

True but I would lose my fave skill in my fave skill line ... I mean rally is the first thing I brag about when gushing about 2h lol. Silly reason but oh wells.

The Uninvited wrote: »

You play a Templar and need 2H for heal?

I was thinking the same thing. My stamplar has decent heals from restoring light line used as a magicka dump.

Why would you use magicka heals on a stam build? Rally/Vigor is definitely the most common way to go.

Why not? That way you would leave more stamina for attack/block/dodge/sprint. I know the heal won't be as high as it could be, but if it works it works.

nordickittyhawk

Other (Explain)

keep rally the way it is.

Thou i do like idea something better in the fighters guild as it does *** all for stam comared to mages guild where its all about magic

Marktoneth3

No

then move vigor to 2h skill line

win-win

NACtron

Yes

Rally is such a vital skill all stamina users need to have 2h on one of their bar. My ideal set up would be dw/bow or bow/1h and shield. Sadly I can't leave rally behind. I totally support a change like this. I would love if zeninax did this

WalkingLegacy

Other (Explain)

Vigor with bow.

Wollust

No

Can we move healing ward to mages guild rank 5 then as well?

clayandaudrey_ESO

No

NACtron wrote: »

Rally is such a vital skill all stamina users need to have 2h on one of their bar. My ideal set up would be dw/bow or bow/1h and shield. Sadly I can't leave rally behind. I totally support a change like this. I would love if zeninax did this

I use dw/bow. I have never had 2h. Not sure why everyone feels the need to have this skill slotted.

DRXHarbinger

Earn vigor? Not exactly hard these days. Far superior heal.

threefarms

Other (Explain)

Want a solution? Just add more stamina heals and buffs,

RAGUNAnoOne

Other (Explain)

I think they should move vigor instead since it is an essential skill for all stamina builds especially in PvE yet locked behind PvP or they could add other stamina heals

Vaoh

Yes

@The Uninvited 2H is the jack of all trades Stamina Weapon for anyone wanting to 1vX in Cyrodiil.

It has Wrecking Blow, a very strong single target (my stamplar will instead use jabs). It has a very strong execute. It has ONE OF THE TWO stamina heals available which is even tied in the same skill to Major Brutality as well. This skill even provides a HoT and it last 30 seconds which is a long duration for one cast.

Stamplar does not have access to Major Brutality from the Templar skill lines, and my precious magicka is better spent on other things when doing Vet PvP. Therefore, it is a no-brainer for me or anyone to pick a 2H since it gives a powerful heal/Major Brutality plus that extra execute which happens to be located in the 2H line as well.

Honor the Dead is not horrible, but you get 3-4 casts of low healing and no Major Brutality or natural HoT. You've gimped your character by not using a 2H when in PvP. Even in Vet Maelstrom Stamina characters always equip a 2H.

Zyeriik

No

Jules wrote: »

Zyeriik wrote: »

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Zyeriik wrote: »

I am the biggest 2h fan in tamriel and this would break my little heart. Lol.

But youd still be able to use it with your 2h build and maybe the 2h skill line would get something cool to replace it.

True but I would lose my fave skill in my fave skill line ... I mean rally is the first thing I brag about when gushing about 2h lol. Silly reason but oh wells.

The Uninvited wrote: »

You play a Templar and need 2H for heal?

I was thinking the same thing. My stamplar has decent heals from restoring light line used as a magicka dump.

Why would you use magicka heals on a stam build? Rally/Vigor is definitely the most common way to go.

Because I have space on my back bar and it's just enough for self heals. Unused magicka resource is wasted resource.

Destyran

Yes

No just move rally the morph leave forward momentum there and change rallys morphto a expedition buff.

mtwiggz

No

Having to equip a 2H for a stamina build is very similar to having to equip a Restoration Staff for a magicka build. If you want heals you need to use that certain weapon.

Honestly it's terrible, but I don't believe moving Rally is the best option to fix the lack of stamina heals in the game. Vigor is the only reliable heal in the game available to anyone despite your class or weapon choice. So in my opinion stamina builds already have a "one up".

CaptainBeerDude

No

No. Just because you can't work out how to make your TEMPLAR heal himself, doesn't mean that my base double buff(Maj. Brutality and HoT)should be moved. And you lose the synergy with 2 H passives(-20% ability costs). Your proposed change would require an extra ability slot from everyone running a 2H build. And S+B should stop you from getting too much damage in anyways.

Tdroid

Other (Explain)

I'd rather they put another self-heal based on stamina in the Fighters Guild tree(and a Max Stamina and Stamina regen bonus thing in there too) that can be spammed, at least to the degree many magicka heals can be. Rally is generally too weak unless you let it run for a while. Emergency heal? Yes. Very reliable? Eh... only in slow paced fights.

Edit: Also, time to give the Templar Major Brutality and Sorcery. Why on Nirn weren't that effect included for this time around? You'd think they'd remember doing it since they did it with the Dragonknights.

CaptainBeerDude

No

It's still more reliable than surge.

The Uninvited

No

Doncellius wrote: »

@The Uninvited 2H is the jack of all trades Stamina Weapon for anyone wanting to 1vX in Cyrodiil.

It has Wrecking Blow, a very strong single target (my stamplar will instead use jabs). It has a very strong execute. It has ONE OF THE TWO stamina heals available which is even tied in the same skill to Major Brutality as well. This skill even provides a HoT and it last 30 seconds which is a long duration for one cast.

Stamplar does not have access to Major Brutality from the Templar skill lines, and my precious magicka is better spent on other things when doing Vet PvP. Therefore, it is a no-brainer for me or anyone to pick a 2H since it gives a powerful heal/Major Brutality plus that extra execute which happens to be located in the 2H line as well.

Honor the Dead is not horrible, but you get 3-4 casts of low healing and no Major Brutality or natural HoT. You've gimped your character by not using a 2H when in PvP. Even in Vet Maelstrom Stamina characters always equip a 2H.

Agreed. But you do have Major Brutality from the Dual Wield skill line (which is what you want to use instead of 2H). Couldn't you just go that way and use Vigor for the heal then?

WillhelmBlack

No

It is a powerful heal (it's even currently outhealing Jesus Beam) and I understand that you would like it on a Sword and Board/Bow build but I like it where it is along with the stam regen when you get a kill. 2H is awesome to play and Rally is part of it for me, waiting til you're under 25% health then wham Executioner passive gives it a massive boost.

If a similar skill replaced Camo Hunter, I'd be all for that.

DurzoBlint13

but pretty much anyone that has ever been in Cyrodil will have Vigor after the patch goes live, right? It will be quick to get if you don't have it yet, since they are lowering the AP needed to unlock it.