Burning embers 100k heal.....GJ "balancing"

Alcast

Check out the MAX hit


and this is not even the max...could get a lot higher...
I had: Aggro Warhorn, Spellpower Cure, Powerful Assault
I did not have: Mending, Cprayer

olsborg

Work as intended

DKsUnite

Balance by Wrobel

cazlonb16_ESO

Alcast wrote: »

Mending is missing, Cprayer is missing.....etc

Well, Wrobellogic says there is only one way to fix this then: Remove Major Mending from Templars.

GreenSoup2HoT

Zos: Opps we put in the value 1000% by accident. Will be fixed next dlc promise. xD

Alcast

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Mending is missing, Cprayer is missing.....etc

Well, Wrobellogic says there is only one way to fix this then: Remove Major Mending from Templars.

xD

Shader_Shibes

Wow.

On the other hand, does critical leech live up to is name by actually critting?

SemiD4rkness

I repeat, worst sense of balance in the history of gaming.

Joy_Division

Alcast OP.

Odd they decided not to fix the useless actual Dragon Blood healing skill and instead made a damage skill heal like crazy.

Balance!

CtrlAltDlt

Lol

AfkNinja

Wow.....jusssst wow. Can they go one patch without seriously breaking something? Just once?

Forestd16b14_ESO

OH goody here comes the "Nerf DK" threads already....... again....... Yea magicka screwing over stamina and tanks again just the cycle of ESO.

MissBizz

So that's where they put my third BoL heal... ooh, looks like they even buffed it for ya.

Alcast

MissBizz wrote: »

So that's where they put my third BoL heal... ooh, looks like they even buffed it for ya.

ye...even pets heal 2x as much as a BoL heal by now xD

Pets are still less reliable tho, but still

MissBizz

Alcast wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

So that's where they put my third BoL heal... ooh, looks like they even buffed it for ya.

ye...even pets heal 2x as much as a BoL heal by now xD

Pets are still less reliable tho, but still

Ouch. That still stings you know! lol

Waffennacht

Leave my Pets outta this mess!

SmalltalkJava

Pets ftw

AfkNinja

Dragon Knight masterclass incoming.

Bfish22090

NERF dks

SirAndy

Jennifur_Vultee

Bfish22090 wrote: »

NERF dks

Nerf Eric Wrobel.

He's absolutely the most frustrating part of playing ESO since he has no clear vision of ESO combat and just seems to randomly change things on a whim. Its like having a 5 year old as lead combat designer.

dodgehopper_ESO

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

NERF dks

Nerf Eric Wrobel.

He's absolutely the most frustrating part of playing ESO since he has no clear vision of ESO combat and just seems to randomly change things on a whim. Its like having a 5 year old as lead combat designer.

I don't think it is healthy to disparage him. The reality is he might have too many responsibilities placed on his shoulders (or his team's shoulders). Maybe they need to make room in their employment to help his team out? We don't know. I don't think it is a good idea to trash @Wrobel when really have no bearing on what is going on in their office. He might be at this very moment fighting for many of the things the players want, and simply not have the team to back it up. Maybe its just an issue of time. There's a big difference between having a vision and being able to make that vision real in a short period of time.

Please don't blow up in my face either about this. I've got my own list of complaints as well. I'm not happy with a number of things not operating well/correctly on Templars. I still think the game would be better served by having diminishing returns. I don't think it is healthy for the game to cap mitigation while simultaneously making the sky the limit on Damage. I think there are many problems with the way CC works in the game. I could go on. Even so, I don't think it is reasonable to call for the man's execution/firing/whatever. It is much better to state what you have problems with. Scapegoating a developer is not fair. I realize the 'House/Home' statements going on are harmful to his image right now, but please realize that he was just stating the vision for the class there. The class clearly doesn't meet that vision (in fact it sounds a lot more like DK), but maybe he has something in mind to fill those gaps in. I personally feel the important thing about Templar threads lately is that it might just be clearer to him and the other developers just how irritated we are becoming.

puffy99

My 5 year old resents that comment.
My 9 year old agrees..

My jello shot house is about built... now just need Dixie cups and good vodka

Alcast

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

NERF dks

Nerf Eric Wrobel.

He's absolutely the most frustrating part of playing ESO since he has no clear vision of ESO combat and just seems to randomly change things on a whim. Its like having a 5 year old as lead combat designer.

I don't think it is healthy to disparage him. The reality is he might have too many responsibilities placed on his shoulders (or his team's shoulders). Maybe they need to make room in their employment to help his team out? We don't know. I don't think it is a good idea to trash @Wrobel when really have no bearing on what is going on in their office. He might be at this very moment fighting for many of the things the players want, and simply not have the team to back it up. Maybe its just an issue of time. There's a big difference between having a vision and being able to make that vision real in a short period of time.

Please don't blow up in my face either about this. I've got my own list of complaints as well. I'm not happy with a number of things not operating well/correctly on Templars. I still think the game would be better served by having diminishing returns. I don't think it is healthy for the game to cap mitigation while simultaneously making the sky the limit on Damage. I think there are many problems with the way CC works in the game. I could go on. Even so, I don't think it is reasonable to call for the man's execution/firing/whatever. It is much better to state what you have problems with. Scapegoating a developer is not fair. I realize the 'House/Home' statements going on are harmful to his image right now, but please realize that he was just stating the vision for the class there. The class clearly doesn't meet that vision (in fact it sounds a lot more like DK), but maybe he has something in mind to fill those gaps in. I personally feel the important thing about Templar threads lately is that it might just be clearer to him and the other developers just how irritated we are becoming.

you might be right, but somebody has to take responsibility. And as it stands he is RESPONSIBLE for class balance.

dodgehopper_ESO

Alcast wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

NERF dks

Nerf Eric Wrobel.

He's absolutely the most frustrating part of playing ESO since he has no clear vision of ESO combat and just seems to randomly change things on a whim. Its like having a 5 year old as lead combat designer.

I don't think it is healthy to disparage him. The reality is he might have too many responsibilities placed on his shoulders (or his team's shoulders). Maybe they need to make room in their employment to help his team out? We don't know. I don't think it is a good idea to trash @Wrobel when really have no bearing on what is going on in their office. He might be at this very moment fighting for many of the things the players want, and simply not have the team to back it up. Maybe its just an issue of time. There's a big difference between having a vision and being able to make that vision real in a short period of time.

Please don't blow up in my face either about this. I've got my own list of complaints as well. I'm not happy with a number of things not operating well/correctly on Templars. I still think the game would be better served by having diminishing returns. I don't think it is healthy for the game to cap mitigation while simultaneously making the sky the limit on Damage. I think there are many problems with the way CC works in the game. I could go on. Even so, I don't think it is reasonable to call for the man's execution/firing/whatever. It is much better to state what you have problems with. Scapegoating a developer is not fair. I realize the 'House/Home' statements going on are harmful to his image right now, but please realize that he was just stating the vision for the class there. The class clearly doesn't meet that vision (in fact it sounds a lot more like DK), but maybe he has something in mind to fill those gaps in. I personally feel the important thing about Templar threads lately is that it might just be clearer to him and the other developers just how irritated we are becoming.

you might be right, but somebody has to take responsibility. And as it stands he is RESPONSIBLE for class balance.

I think it would be fairer to put all their feet to the fire. Wrobel is just the guy they chuck on those weekly videos. I'm glad they do it, but I promise you he isn't the only person calling the shots. That's all I'm saying. You should be calling out all the devs ultimately. Get Matt Firor involved for instance.

I'm also suggesting that if we as players want to heap all our $h1t on one dev, we might be making a grave error. He might actually be doing a lot of good, and someone else is a greater concern. We're not on the inside, at the end of the day the product has to sell itself, and we as consumers should make our concerns noted. Hopefully the devs are getting the message and responding. That's really all there is to it. I just don't want to see people trash this guy and his whole career (or worse) as I've seen suggested in some threads. Some people take it too far, and I realize its hard to know when to stop the emotion and the rhetoric as some is needed to get your point across.

Alcast

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

NERF dks

Nerf Eric Wrobel.

He's absolutely the most frustrating part of playing ESO since he has no clear vision of ESO combat and just seems to randomly change things on a whim. Its like having a 5 year old as lead combat designer.

I don't think it is healthy to disparage him. The reality is he might have too many responsibilities placed on his shoulders (or his team's shoulders). Maybe they need to make room in their employment to help his team out? We don't know. I don't think it is a good idea to trash @Wrobel when really have no bearing on what is going on in their office. He might be at this very moment fighting for many of the things the players want, and simply not have the team to back it up. Maybe its just an issue of time. There's a big difference between having a vision and being able to make that vision real in a short period of time.

Please don't blow up in my face either about this. I've got my own list of complaints as well. I'm not happy with a number of things not operating well/correctly on Templars. I still think the game would be better served by having diminishing returns. I don't think it is healthy for the game to cap mitigation while simultaneously making the sky the limit on Damage. I think there are many problems with the way CC works in the game. I could go on. Even so, I don't think it is reasonable to call for the man's execution/firing/whatever. It is much better to state what you have problems with. Scapegoating a developer is not fair. I realize the 'House/Home' statements going on are harmful to his image right now, but please realize that he was just stating the vision for the class there. The class clearly doesn't meet that vision (in fact it sounds a lot more like DK), but maybe he has something in mind to fill those gaps in. I personally feel the important thing about Templar threads lately is that it might just be clearer to him and the other developers just how irritated we are becoming.

you might be right, but somebody has to take responsibility. And as it stands he is RESPONSIBLE for class balance.

I think it would be fairer to put all their feet to the fire. Wrobel is just the guy they chuck on those weekly videos. I'm glad they do it, but I promise you he isn't the only person calling the shots. That's all I'm saying. You should be calling out all the devs ultimately. Get Matt Firor involved for instance.

Ye Matt Frior is the Chief, so he is most definitely responsible...and we all know he has no clue since the interview he did was just horrible...

MormondPayne_EP

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

NERF dks

Nerf Eric Wrobel.

He's absolutely the most frustrating part of playing ESO since he has no clear vision of ESO combat and just seems to randomly change things on a whim. Its like having a 5 year old as lead combat designer.

He's a *** idiot.

dodgehopper_ESO

Alcast wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

NERF dks

Nerf Eric Wrobel.

He's absolutely the most frustrating part of playing ESO since he has no clear vision of ESO combat and just seems to randomly change things on a whim. Its like having a 5 year old as lead combat designer.

I don't think it is healthy to disparage him. The reality is he might have too many responsibilities placed on his shoulders (or his team's shoulders). Maybe they need to make room in their employment to help his team out? We don't know. I don't think it is a good idea to trash @Wrobel when really have no bearing on what is going on in their office. He might be at this very moment fighting for many of the things the players want, and simply not have the team to back it up. Maybe its just an issue of time. There's a big difference between having a vision and being able to make that vision real in a short period of time.

Please don't blow up in my face either about this. I've got my own list of complaints as well. I'm not happy with a number of things not operating well/correctly on Templars. I still think the game would be better served by having diminishing returns. I don't think it is healthy for the game to cap mitigation while simultaneously making the sky the limit on Damage. I think there are many problems with the way CC works in the game. I could go on. Even so, I don't think it is reasonable to call for the man's execution/firing/whatever. It is much better to state what you have problems with. Scapegoating a developer is not fair. I realize the 'House/Home' statements going on are harmful to his image right now, but please realize that he was just stating the vision for the class there. The class clearly doesn't meet that vision (in fact it sounds a lot more like DK), but maybe he has something in mind to fill those gaps in. I personally feel the important thing about Templar threads lately is that it might just be clearer to him and the other developers just how irritated we are becoming.

you might be right, but somebody has to take responsibility. And as it stands he is RESPONSIBLE for class balance.

I think it would be fairer to put all their feet to the fire. Wrobel is just the guy they chuck on those weekly videos. I'm glad they do it, but I promise you he isn't the only person calling the shots. That's all I'm saying. You should be calling out all the devs ultimately. Get Matt Firor involved for instance.

Ye Matt Frior is the Chief, so he is most definitely responsible...and we all know he has no clue since the interview he did was just horrible...

Even then we have to realize that these are video game designers, and not tv show personalities. While I do think Todd Howard is an awesome PR man for Fallout/TES games it is hard to expect everyone to be as good as him at that. Honestly, I really wish they would get Todd Howard involved somehow, because that guy is awesome at the video game business. I look at Todd Howard as the Steve Jobs of videogaming, at least he seems like it in many ways. The guy drives a solid vision and does a great job building his crew and creating good press for his product. I normally couldn't care less about who a developer is but Todd Howard is one of the few that really stands out to me. The point here is that for the most part the gaming industry doesn't seem to have very many Todd Howards. Its hard to do public speaking and even harder to do it potentially in front of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands, echoing in eternity on the interwebs. I've done a decent amount of public speaking myself and usually I do fine (its easier in smaller business meeting groups for me). I found myself having a very hard time speaking my father's eulogy though, in large part because of the emotion bound up in it. You can't necessarily expect people to be at their top form all the time.

This is why I marvel at the fact that they even do a video show like they do. It takes brass to do that, and its one thing I appreciate about these guys. I'm pretty sure the developers still want to push the wonder of the game, that 'sizzle' we can still smell from two years ago. The reality is they're just human beings and mabye their crew isn't quite big enough to handle the task at hand as fast as the populace wants. This will hurt their subscriber base if that is the case. The console port also slowed us down a lot. I'm still hopeful despite all my misgivings (and Alcast I'm positive you know I have misgivings on things because we've communicated in multiple threads). My personal feeling is this: Orsinium was awesome. What little I have seen of Abah's Landing/Thieves Guild looks fantastic, and finally starts to round out the Justice/Legerdemain system we saw introduced. Combat Balance is still in a heap, but maybe, just maybe they'll fix it. The content they are putting out is really cool. Imperial City was great as well though I really wish they would have implemented the control system they talked about initially. The thing is, they might just do that @Alcast , considering the way they've slowly unrolled Justice System.

I say all this even while you probably have seen me blowing up on some Templar threads, including the Official Feedback Thread (Templar). I always try to keep in check though to a point. There's a balance between rhetoric/emotion and loss of reason. If we cross the line we risk the developers discounting us as crazy. There needs to be balance. I actually think that the Developers heard us (Templars) in that last thread, even if they were pretty quiet about it, and if that is the case it was a good thing.

SirDopey

NERF JABS!!!!!

dodgehopper_ESO

By the way I'm not trying to derail the thread here, I'm actually attempting to keep it on the rails. It is pretty amazing how crappy GDB is in PVP now. I don't like that either and it looks odd when comparing to these Burning Embers numbers.

Birdovic

Alcast wrote: »

Check out the MAX hit


and this is not even the max...could get a lot higher...
Mending is missing, Cprayer is missing.....etc

Tell me, how, how did you reach those Balanced heals