Prices of Player Housing

Gedalya

JD2013 wrote: »

Gedalya wrote: »

lunarsyed wrote: »

Ive been wondering since player housing is coming, it got me thinking how much will they cost to buy ingame? And that if the houses do come in varieties some may be more expensive than others depending on how luxurious or big one house is, that could be a possibility or maybe the house just comes in one shape rather than different varieties, who know but i am curious. Let Know what u guys think?

Was player housing mentioned recently? I didn't think there had been any official commentary recently.

We think, based upon comments on ES Live, it'll be the Q3 DLC.

Ok now you have my attention!!! Which ES live was this so I can listen to it!

hrothbern

HaldaAinur wrote: »

Honestly 75k for a shack is stupid- at least give me a small 'peasant' style house.

Granted, I would also like to suggest they price by location. Big cities will generally cost more, small towns, a little less, small peasant houses/huts/caves (I actually love the idea of a little cave), costing less.

If it's possible to implement, they could even add small zones for small 'towns', maybe in individual styles depending on the area in which its located.

And to those saying how its so easy to earn 75k- not for all of us! Maybe for the majority (and thats a -maybe-), but not everyone wants to spend forever farming that amount of gold, especially if it's a barely able to stand shack. A week of doing nothing but thieving for a shack? No, thank you- give options for actual houses to everyone please Zeni.

However, on another note, adding shacks & caves in the middle of no-where, being tiny-working class averagely sized, could be a nice alternative to pricey homes. They would be cheap and out of the way, but still an easy option for anyone starting out. Tents, camps, small hide-outs in the corner maps could also be worked into this.

yeah

my home is my castle...
my own little place under the sun....
just the quality of life, the comfort feeling....

also when it is the tiniest shack in the world !

That should cost little no nothing

There is however an economical min-max aspect, and that is the simple inventory issue. There will be a competition between a costly increase of inventory that can be achieved per character, the bank.... even Crowns are involved
and ANY inventory you get at a low price in your tiny little shack.

This leads to an unnecessary price increase of your own little dwelling !

A way to decouple this would be that the amount of inventory of your chests in your housing go up in proportion to the amount of slots you bought for your characters and bank.

The tiny little shack will have only 1 chest. Bigger Mansion have more chests and Mannequins.

This should enable completely new players to get their housing at a very low price, and expand their chest in that little shack, by the normal inventory slot increase method already in place, that costs dear money and crowns.

Such a "starter" shack should cost no more than 10-20k or so.

or for free behind the paywall of a new DLC.

Arandear

I look forward to this.

Alabyn

I imagine there are technical challenges with having it anything but instanced, but I'd feel disconnected from the community if that's not overcome. I suppose one could invite friends to the instance. I'd rather folks could come right in and have some mead.

Inarre

I dont know what it will cost or be like but im so excited for this i hope it happens soooon!

Gedalya

Anyone know the ES Live where this was mentioned?

Also, I've done housing in SWTOR and in LoTRO; and I really really like the SWTOR instances; very fun to have a home you can buy and then have expansions you can buy. And also great to be able to get things to decorate with including functional things like mail boxes, GM terminals et al.. I'd love something like this for ESO; be able to acquire NPCs for the home et al..

HaldaAinur

hrothbern wrote: »

HaldaAinur wrote: »

Honestly 75k for a shack is stupid- at least give me a small 'peasant' style house.

Granted, I would also like to suggest they price by location. Big cities will generally cost more, small towns, a little less, small peasant houses/huts/caves (I actually love the idea of a little cave), costing less.

If it's possible to implement, they could even add small zones for small 'towns', maybe in individual styles depending on the area in which its located.

And to those saying how its so easy to earn 75k- not for all of us! Maybe for the majority (and thats a -maybe-), but not everyone wants to spend forever farming that amount of gold, especially if it's a barely able to stand shack. A week of doing nothing but thieving for a shack? No, thank you- give options for actual houses to everyone please Zeni.

However, on another note, adding shacks & caves in the middle of no-where, being tiny-working class averagely sized, could be a nice alternative to pricey homes. They would be cheap and out of the way, but still an easy option for anyone starting out. Tents, camps, small hide-outs in the corner maps could also be worked into this.

yeah

my home is my castle...
my own little place under the sun....
just the quality of life, the comfort feeling....

also when it is the tiniest shack in the world !

That should cost little no nothing

There is however an economical min-max aspect, and that is the simple inventory issue. There will be a competition between a costly increase of inventory that can be achieved per character, the bank.... even Crowns are involved
and ANY inventory you get at a low price in your tiny little shack.

This leads to an unnecessary price increase of your own little dwelling !

A way to decouple this would be that the amount of inventory of your chests in your housing go up in proportion to the amount of slots you bought for your characters and bank.

The tiny little shack will have only 1 chest. Bigger Mansion have more chests and Mannequins.

This should enable completely new players to get their housing at a very low price, and expand their chest in that little shack, by the normal inventory slot increase method already in place, that costs dear money and crowns.

Such a "starter" shack should cost no more than 10-20k or so.

or for free behind the paywall of a new DLC.

Agreed, and of course there's going to be some effect on the economy no matter what happens. That's just how the world works- hopefully zenimax will just be good at managing it.

I would also like to suggest that you could start off with a small home and upgrade its inventory amount. Say, you could add a small cellar, which adds more storage room. Nothing too fancy, but it'd at least be applicable to most houses and would work in place of keeping all of your goods in one room.

Shelves and stands should also hold storage room. Want somewhere to put clothes? Add a wardrobe for a small cost. Etc.

vamp_emily

I want a Castle, with bodyguards. I think I am on EP/ADs most wanted list and don't want them trying to sneak in to kill me when I am resting.

NBrookus

Housing should be purchasable with AP or gold or crowns. Everyone wins.

Alabyn wrote: »

I imagine there are technical challenges with having it anything but instanced, but I'd feel disconnected from the community if that's not overcome. I suppose one could invite friends to the instance. I'd rather folks could come right in and have some mead.

They could just make it a group instance. Should be fairly simple since they already have the underlying code mechanics.

I also still hold out hope for guild barracks/inn/etc., open to all guild members and invited guests. Mostly for the RPers... and for me, who has unwittingly encountered some pretty creepy RP going on.

Sallington

Call me a pessimist, but we should be discussing cost in crowns and not in-game gold.

JD2013

Gedalya wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Gedalya wrote: »

lunarsyed wrote: »

Ive been wondering since player housing is coming, it got me thinking how much will they cost to buy ingame? And that if the houses do come in varieties some may be more expensive than others depending on how luxurious or big one house is, that could be a possibility or maybe the house just comes in one shape rather than different varieties, who know but i am curious. Let Know what u guys think?

Was player housing mentioned recently? I didn't think there had been any official commentary recently.

We think, based upon comments on ES Live, it'll be the Q3 DLC.

Ok now you have my attention!!! Which ES live was this so I can listen to it!

I think it was the episode before last. The one that had composer Brad Derrik on. Don't quote me on that but I'm pretty sure it was in the ask us anything section of that.

catalyst10e

I'd love to see the backlash if they announced it'd be 500k Tel Var for a small house and 1 million Tel Var for a large house...

JD2013

catalyst10e wrote: »

I'd love to see the backlash if they announced it'd be 500k Tel Var for a small house and 1 million Tel Var for a large house...

Except that TV stones are only used in Imperial City, and nowhere else and never will be.

catalyst10e

JD2013 wrote: »

catalyst10e wrote: »

I'd love to see the backlash if they announced it'd be 500k Tel Var for a small house and 1 million Tel Var for a large house...

Except that TV stones are only used in Imperial City, and nowhere else and never will be.

congrats on figuring out the joke...

JD2013

catalyst10e wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

catalyst10e wrote: »

I'd love to see the backlash if they announced it'd be 500k Tel Var for a small house and 1 million Tel Var for a large house...

Except that TV stones are only used in Imperial City, and nowhere else and never will be.

congrats on figuring out the joke...

Hey I've been at work since 5am, my sarcasm detector is on the fritz

bryanhaas

TalonKnight wrote: »

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

I hope they release crown versions along with the homes and I hope they have different areas in each zone or something.
hoping for a minimum of 100k gold to buy one or some bonus for having eso plus to make it worth having

100k is just BS, i have been playing on, and off since beta, and i have never had more the 30k, at 1 time, GTFO with your rich ass.

I bring in 50 to 100k per week on PS4. With a few decent guild traders (I pay 25k per week to all the trading guilds I am in) it is easy to rake in the gold once you figure out the market. Although having the same pricing on PC and console may be an issue as console pricing is inflated.

nimander99

Probably 2000 Crowns for a regular version and 5000 Crowns for the deluxe house that comes with a table.

demendred

You guys are gonna love those who buy plots and sell them to hayseed rubes for three times as much, if one is allowed to sell the plot they own.

RinOkumara

TalonKnight wrote: »

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

I hope they release crown versions along with the homes and I hope they have different areas in each zone or something.
hoping for a minimum of 100k gold to buy one or some bonus for having eso plus to make it worth having

100k is just BS, i have been playing on, and off since beta, and i have never had more the 30k, at 1 time, GTFO with your rich ass.

100k is nothingXD What could you possibly spend your gold on?

Volkodav

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

I guess it depends on their internal figures.

Most people I know who are good end game players have around 1mil+ gold, however there are often complains on the forums when items cost in the hundreds of thousands. It would be interesting to know what the average dare I use the term casual player has as gold reserves.

Based on the SWTOR model they offer one very cheap location, then two slightly more costly and one expensive location. Finally they also have the dreadnoughts which (although designed for a guild effort) are in the extreme levels of wealth section.

A million is not normal in PvP we make next to nothing after the Rewards for the Worthy nerf sure we have more gold per mail but we get one mail when we would have gotten 5-6 mails the set drops are rare and often useless besides like four. All that plus no body looting, set drops, or the need to repair armor PvP players don't focus on gold.

I tried hard to read this,but there was only two sentences.The first was so long and it felt like the person who wrote it forgot to put stops between the sentences.
Still,I did try.

magnusthorek

I wouldn't buy a huge mansion, even if I could afford it.

I'm not a noble or a bourgeois. I'm an sinister vampire wizard, I'm the Butcher of Torfan.... oh no, wrong game... I'm not saying I want to live as hermit in a cave or sleep in a coffin. A simple but elegant house I worked my *** of build and customize with my bare hands the way I want is much better without mention that's much lore friendly

Volkodav

magnusthorek wrote: »

I wouldn't buy a huge mansion, even if I could afford it.

I'm not a noble or a bourgeois. I'm an sinister vampire wizard, I'm the Butcher of Torfan.... oh no, wrong game... I'm not saying I want to live as hermit in a cave or sleep in a coffin. A simple but elegant house I worked my *** of build and customize with my bare hands the way I want is much better without mention that's much lore friendly

Neither would I. I might buy one of the small homes or even a medium one,..as long as they arent so expensive I take a year to gather all the gold for one.Crowns,..fine.I'll buy crowns for a home.But I wont if they cost an arm and leg either.
People keep wanting things to be extremely expensive and post about it when they could ask a more reasonable price and it still might get done.

Unsent.Soul

TalonKnight wrote: »

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

I hope they release crown versions along with the homes and I hope they have different areas in each zone or something.
hoping for a minimum of 100k gold to buy one or some bonus for having eso plus to make it worth having

100k is just BS, i have been playing on, and off since beta, and i have never had more the 30k, at 1 time, GTFO with your rich ass.

Lol...100k isn't rich, by any means in this game. I've been playing since launch on console and have over a mil+ in bank.

Judging from what you say you have in bank, I'd assume you maybe collect 5-10 gold pieces a day.

Maybe we can just get a FEMA camp for the broke players?

Volkodav

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

TalonKnight wrote: »

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

I hope they release crown versions along with the homes and I hope they have different areas in each zone or something.
hoping for a minimum of 100k gold to buy one or some bonus for having eso plus to make it worth having

100k is just BS, i have been playing on, and off since beta, and i have never had more the 30k, at 1 time, GTFO with your rich ass.

Lol...100k isn't rich, by any means in this game. I've been playing since launch on console and have over a mil+ in bank.

Judging from what you say you have in bank, I'd assume you maybe collect 5-10 gold pieces a day.

Maybe we can just get a FEMA camp for the broke players?

Dont assume.And dont rib someone if they dont have as much gold as you do.I bet you PvP.
A whole lot of players dont have 100K.Those who say they do just cant seem to keep from bragging about it.If they do have that much.
It's reality that those people who dont PvP tend to have less gold.And dont tell them to PvP then,if they want the gold.
Housing doesnt have any need to be over priced like that.What some people want is only themselves to have a home.Not the newbies or those who arent so rich.

nimander99

magnusthorek wrote: »

I wouldn't buy a huge mansion, even if I could afford it.

I'm not a noble or a bourgeois. I'm an sinister vampire wizard, I'm the Butcher of Torfan.... oh no, wrong game... I'm not saying I want to live as hermit in a cave or sleep in a coffin. A simple but elegant house I worked my *** of build and customize with my bare hands the way I want is much better without mention that's much lore friendly

Admit it, you wrote all that just so you could use bourgeois in a sentence.

murmur

If you're templar, you get free house.

Unsent.Soul

Volkodav wrote: »

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

TalonKnight wrote: »

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

I hope they release crown versions along with the homes and I hope they have different areas in each zone or something.
hoping for a minimum of 100k gold to buy one or some bonus for having eso plus to make it worth having

100k is just BS, i have been playing on, and off since beta, and i have never had more the 30k, at 1 time, GTFO with your rich ass.

Lol...100k isn't rich, by any means in this game. I've been playing since launch on console and have over a mil+ in bank.

Judging from what you say you have in bank, I'd assume you maybe collect 5-10 gold pieces a day.

Maybe we can just get a FEMA camp for the broke players?

Dont assume.And dont rib someone if they dont have as much gold as you do.I bet you PvP.
A whole lot of players dont have 100K.Those who say they do just cant seem to keep from bragging about it.If they do have that much.
It's reality that those people who dont PvP tend to have less gold.And dont tell them to PvP then,if they want the gold.
Housing doesnt have any need to be over priced like that.What some people want is only themselves to have a home.Not the newbies or those who arent so rich.

When a player that has apparently been playing since beta, only has 30k in the bank, that's not my fault. I pvp maybe once a week, but it's pretty easy to make gold in this game, those that don't choose to hold onto any gold, will have empty pockets.

That's why I suggested a fema style camp. Player housing and affordable.

In any game with a currency there will be an economy, people will make more gold than others, that's logic and fact.

I'm not bragging about my gold, it is nice to buy what I want and when I want too though. I know several old guild leaders that have lined their pockets with the weekly donations from guild members and are sitting over 10 mil.

All in all, if someone wants to buy a big ass house and have an episode of cribs eso version, than so be it. ZOS will most likely accommodate for the wealthy and not so wealthy.

SinKissed

It would be nice if they could find a way to make guild instanced towns or a plot of land where we could build next to each other.

Daedgaming

I would gladly spend hundreds of dollars on this game to have a better house then all of you. ZOS im dead serious, give us some special things to buy in the crown store and I will buy them all!

Unsent.Soul

Daedgaming wrote: »

I would gladly spend hundreds of dollars on this game to have a better house then all of you. ZOS im dead serious, give us some special things to buy in the crown store and I will buy them all!

Chocolate fountain? Sweet rolls +chocolate fountain = food for the gods.