I will pay for sexy costume.

failkiwib16_ESO

From actually reading OP's posts, he only requested for armor without flaps, and also commented that it was not his thing to get ESO to look like those japanese style games.

This is not the first thread about dissatisfaction with those flaps, and tbh. I really like the beforementioned idea of having a toggle option to put them on and off. Some flaps look good with certain gear, others (like mine) just look weird.

Forestd16b14_ESO

dday3six wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

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Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Not saying to make the game 1000% real but.... function > fashion. Like it's winter time what you think be better to wear non-slip boots or fancy shoes ? Yet some people wear those shoes and then complain how it is so cold and how their always slipping on ice.

And if your still persistence about it then it needs to be equal like so

I'd say it's not ultimately about function, but rather about objectification. If it was about function why is fashion not okay for armor, but acceptable weaponary. Most of the weapons in ESO are terrible from a functionality stand point. They'd be too heavy to be wielded properly, and the rounded rather than oval handles would obscure edge alignment in combat as just two examples.

Actually compared to some real life weapons most weapons in ESO their pretty spot on sch as say nordic weaponry. How they are designed Bethesda/ZOS designed it of Celtic, Scottish, Irish, and all those style while say the Dunmer style such as the swords and daggers look based of the Kris sword.

Like yes some of the gear seems over the top but it was all mostly based on some real life stuff. Plus despite media portraying some of stuff such as greatswords being these giant bulky heavy weapons of mass destruction greatswords are actually alot lighter and smaller than people think. Their normaly between 4ft/1,1/2m to 6ft/2m tall and at most weight between 7-10 pounds the largest greatsword ever used was I think 14ft/3,1/2m and weight I think nearly 20 pounds.

Mimicing real world designs doesn't translate to a functional weapon. Yes, Elder Scrolls in general takes inspiration from some historical weaponary. However they also change many aspects for the perhaps of looking aesthetically pleasing. And it is in these changes that the actual combat effectiveness of the weapons suffer greatly.

Most swords are a great deal lighter than the average person might believe. More than 5lbs is an extremely heavy, thus difficult to wield sword. The average was between 2.5-4lbs depending on the type of sword. Making blades thicker, handles longer, guards bulkier for artistic styling would not only increase weight, but also alter centers of balance. Weight and balance are crucial to the functionality of a sword.

What you're calling greatswords with the specs you've described would've likely been ceremonial rather than instruments of war, used in battle. Even a Zweihander rarely weighed more than 10lbs. For reference a Kris too is also mostly ceremonial. It's blade design does not allow for even cuts, and due to it's shape very fragile in standing up to repeated impact absorption.

In the end the designs of multimedia weapons and armor are often about portraying a certain visual presence. Viking helmets in reality didn't have horns, too easy to grab and jerk the wearer around. Female armor wouldn't have breast shaped chest plates, least the wearer's breasts be smashed. Swords would not be bogged down with excess material making them heavy and unwielding.

Well Zwehander is German literally meaning two handed weapon and given their size and it was easy to call them greatswords cause it literally doubled the range you had then a normal sword which meant the person wielding it was a much deadlier soldier cause hey that 1 extra foot could mean the differance between getting that killing blow or not.

It wasn't I think till a few hundred years later when the designed of the Zwehander moved on over to Ireland, Scotland and all that were it was redesigned to become what we know as the Scotish Claymore which I personally think most media greatswords are based off of and were they get the idea that greatswords are these big heavy weapons.

Gotta hand it to the Scots, Irish and all them they know how to make one helluva weapon cause what is not sexy about this ?

KramUzibra

Blackers wrote: »

#nomoreflaps

This will help a lot

Eso should make all armor pieces able to toggle on or off. Similar to the helm option

TX12001rwb17_ESO

If you want to wear no clothing ingame you can transform into a werewolf, they don't wear clothes because they physically do not need them as their hide is quite tough.

The only beings in ES who wear minimal clothing are GODS and DEMIGOD like beings and your character is no god so you have to wear thick steel plated armour, unless your trying to insist your characters hide is as thick as a werewolves, in that case why would you want to stare at it?

RAGUNAnoOne

https://youtu.be/OTGh0EMmMC8

also AT LEAST GIVE GUYS THE SAME TREATMENT @AlienSlof

KramUzibra

dday3six wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

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Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Not saying to make the game 1000% real but.... function > fashion. Like it's winter time what you think be better to wear non-slip boots or fancy shoes ? Yet some people wear those shoes and then complain how it is so cold and how their always slipping on ice.

And if your still persistence about it then it needs to be equal like so

I'd say it's not ultimately about function, but rather about objectification. If it was about function why is fashion not okay for armor, but acceptable weaponary. Most of the weapons in ESO are terrible from a functionality stand point. They'd be too heavy to be wielded properly, and the rounded rather than oval handles would obscure edge alignment in combat as just two examples.

Actually compared to some real life weapons most weapons in ESO their pretty spot on sch as say nordic weaponry. How they are designed Bethesda/ZOS designed it of Celtic, Scottish, Irish, and all those style while say the Dunmer style such as the swords and daggers look based of the Kris sword.

Like yes some of the gear seems over the top but it was all mostly based on some real life stuff. Plus despite media portraying some of stuff such as greatswords being these giant bulky heavy weapons of mass destruction greatswords are actually alot lighter and smaller than people think. Their normaly between 4ft/1,1/2m to 6ft/2m tall and at most weight between 7-10 pounds the largest greatsword ever used was I think 14ft/3,1/2m

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

If you want to wear no clothing ingame you can transform into a werewolf, they don't wear clothes because they physically do not need them as their hide is quite tough.

The only beings in ES who wear minimal clothing are GODS and DEMIGOD like beings and your character is no god so you have to wear thick steel plated armour, unless your trying to insist your characters hide is as thick as a werewolves, in that case why would you want to stare at it?

My main is a dragonknight. I have earthinheart abilities, I manifest fire and sprout wings out of no wear. Sounds pretty god like to me. All I'm saying is let's be fair, make some sexy revealing costumes/armor AND make more conservative costumes/armor. More options might prolong the life of eso. I don't ever use first person but I like that the option is available. I never purchase anything from the trade merchants like the chefs, armors or grocer but I live that they are available. Love otions options options

Hortator Indoril Nerevar

bjplague wrote: »

im a guy but i make women chars because if i am to spend ungodly amounts of time in a game i want a female butt bouncing on my screen and not a male one.

so, i've done some testing and the best crafted costume is a medium armor bosmer outfit because it doesnt have anything obstructing the butt. its a nice view.
almost every other armor has buttflaps or armor plates or some other crap to obstruct my view.

now im using the v6 gift costume daedric something or other which is nice but i would pay real money to get better costumes.
make it happen.

Artjuh90 wrote: »

you know if you like to watch the asses of woman there are enough to find on the internet........

yawn this is a game not ***...

RAGUNAnoOne

CrowsDescend wrote: »

This thread though... hilarious and I do understand where you're coming from bjplague, but I personally don't think it suits ESO, despite Bosmer short skirts coming to the crown store in a few months.

@CrowsDescend have you played daggerfall the first clothing outfits I found showed less skin than you would believe

slumber_sandb16_ESO

Proper attire for battle.
Just saying.

craybest

I think options are always good. The mire options the better. There are ways to make sexy armor that can fit the looks and lore of the game.
But it has to be equal, if there are sexy armor for women it has to be sexy armor for guys too.
Im a big fan of sexy guys

khele23eb17_ESO

slumber_sandb16_ESO wrote: »

Proper attire for battle.
Just saying.

If you can sneak in full plate or dash 20 meters in half a second... I dont really see why revealing armors shouldnt work well in combat. Its the same level of 'realism'.

KanedaSyndrome

I need to put this here

LOL

BabeestorGor

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

From actually reading OP's posts, he only requested for armor without flaps, and also commented that it was not his thing to get ESO to look like those japanese style games.

This is not the first thread about dissatisfaction with those flaps, and tbh. I really like the beforementioned idea of having a toggle option to put them on and off. Some flaps look good with certain gear, others (like mine) just look weird.

Yep, I don't think its his request (get rid of butt flaps) or the type of armour he likes (light bosmer) thats caused the reaction, more his manner of putting it over.

bjplague

well, my manner is what it has been for 36 years and isnt about to change any time soon. if that brings out the trolls in people then so be it.
kinda fun to watch people get emotional though, so its semi rewarding.

anyways, yeah all i want is the buttflaps to go away. its on 95% of the gear and the 5% that it isnt on is looking good!

sylviermoone

The problem I have with the hip/butt flaps is that much of the t8me, they float off in space, not even attached to the armor you're wearing! It's jarring to the eye; as if the armor itself is somehow defying the laws of sewing and physics.

On another note, as a female IRL, I don't find the OP's request sexist or objectifying. He wants the option to turn butt flaps off. It's really no big deal. I've seen AT LEAST one female IRL calling for the same type of treatment to male armors, as she prefers to look at a taut male behind while making her way about the game world. I don't see why one request is fine, while the other brings about some huge political duscussion.

I'm female, and all my chars are female. I would love options to dress them in a manner that is tasteful (in my opinion), but beautiful (read: sexy) and battle appropriate. This doesn't have to mean chainkinis, and it's silly that these conversations always seem to jump there.

BabeestorGor

bjplague wrote: »

well, my manner is what it has been for 36 years and isnt about to change any time soon. if that brings out the trolls in people then so be it.
kinda fun to watch people get emotional though, so its semi rewarding.

anyways, yeah all i want is the buttflaps to go away. its on 95% of the gear and the 5% that it isnt on is looking good!

kinda fun to watch people get emotional though, so its semi rewarding.

And you think other people are the trolls?
Anyway I have no problem with anything you have said, although I think you could have phrased it better if you wanted a positive reaction :shrug:

ZOS_MollyH

Hey all, we're going to have to lock this thread for now.

Please keep in mind that calling other players trolls, and baiting other users to provoke an emotional reaction are both against our code of conduct.

If you wish to continue a discussion regarding the armor choices (constructively and following the code of conduct please) feel free to join the discussion at Can we get a toggle for buttflaps and crotchflaps where there is currently a great conversation in progress regarding the inclusion and implementation of tassets and how they correlate to various historical armorsets.