WalkingLegacy wrote: »So why continue to make us wait months for bug fixes, and balance changes?
Why isn't the backend client set up to allow for more hotfixes and class changes when ever the team has something to push out
A handful of changes a week is a lot better than mass changes every 4 months and then anything found broken or not working takes the next DLC for fixes.
This ESO live he says they have stamina changes for Update 10 which is Dark Brotherhood. That is 5 amazing months away at the least to wait for fixes.
Wrobel's team should have priority on pushing patches and hotfixes to Live client. Class balances, combat balances, exploits and skills that are bugged are a pretty important thing to keep squared away in an action MMO.
Class changes need to be pushed to the PTS on a 'regular' basis for testing. Not just for DLC patches.
Matt Firor should be looking into this.
WalkingLegacy wrote: »So why continue to make us wait months for bug fixes, and balance changes?
Why isn't the backend client set up to allow for more hotfixes and class changes when ever the team has something to push out
A handful of changes a week is a lot better than mass changes every 4 months and then anything found broken or not working takes the next DLC for fixes.
This ESO live he says they have stamina changes for Update 10 which is Dark Brotherhood. That is 5 amazing months away at the least to wait for fixes.
Wrobel's team should have priority on pushing patches and hotfixes to Live client. Class balances, combat balances, exploits and skills that are bugged are a pretty important thing to keep squared away in an action MMO.
Class changes need to be pushed to the PTS on a 'regular' basis for testing. Not just for DLC patches.
Matt Firor should be looking into this.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »The problem with this game is the community, you guys accept failure. You are "ok" with bugs. You are "ok" with constant DLC and Crown Store items, yet there still have been so many bugs that persist from the beginning. You are "ok" with constantly being screwed and scammed by zos. I don't understand this. How can you be passionate about something but accept the constant failure from developers? Even down to the simplest things like free respec. This isn't something we should be begging for, there was a major overhaul, we need and deserve a free respec. Horse advancements; I've spent so many real $'s on horses, when I create a new toon, I have to do it again? How can you accept this? I understand some of you are kids, who don't work for the $ you spend on ESO but some of us are adults with families, and the $'s do count and do add up. Then you have a these classes, that don't even give me reminiscence of the old TES games. Who are these phony classes? DK? Templar? Yet the lore lovers scream and are never heard. Where is our option to choose the destiny of our champions like its always been in TES? This game is an utter failure, and a scam by zos. I've been searching the past 2 months for good pvp mmo because this game doesn't have what it offered. So many of these ftp games are miles ahead of ESO in terms of PVP, its unbelievable. The only reason I spent so much time and $ into ESO was for then end game PVP, only to find out its a disaster with no real goal or point. This game was supposed to be PVP focus, if not, why not just make another single player TES game? They have ruined the franchise with ESO. There is no turning back now.
I think it's only the single-player gamers you're referring to. Veteran MMO players are already moving on. Once I finish all the content my friends and I will probably be moving on too. That is unless they get their rears in gear.
I know a LOT of veteran MMO players that play this. Me among them. When I started playing "mmos" they cost money per hour to play. I just think if you come to an elder scrolls mmo looking for quality pvp then maybe you might not have the right game. There are lots of games who focus on the hardcore pvp crowd. Elder scrolls customers for the most part are casuals. Their money spends the same except the overhead drops drastically. Most of the pvp customers eat up their fees in time spent trying to deal with their issues.
So I wouldnt count us out just yet (us old timers I mean). For a game you say you hate I do like you plan to finish every bit of content before moving on.
Animal_Mother wrote: »
mr_wazzabi wrote: »Every other mmo balances the game and changes abilities in major updates separate from dlc.
Why must zos do it all at once? Do they think it's actually more efficient?
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »mr_wazzabi wrote: »Every other mmo balances the game and changes abilities in major updates separate from dlc.
Why must zos do it all at once? Do they think it's actually more efficient?
Really every other mmo only does balance changes and fixes outside of expansions or DLC? Thats amazing you know how every mmo in the entire world works.
WalkingLegacy wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »mr_wazzabi wrote: »Every other mmo balances the game and changes abilities in major updates separate from dlc.
Why must zos do it all at once? Do they think it's actually more efficient?
Really every other mmo only does balance changes and fixes outside of expansions or DLC? Thats amazing you know how every mmo in the entire world works.
I'm sure they meant that they have played. I can say most of the ones I played did. And I have played too many to bother counting.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »mr_wazzabi wrote: »Every other mmo balances the game and changes abilities in major updates separate from dlc.
Why must zos do it all at once? Do they think it's actually more efficient?
Really every other mmo only does balance changes and fixes outside of expansions or DLC? Thats amazing you know how every mmo in the entire world works.
I'm sure they meant that they have played. I can say most of the ones I played did. And I have played too many to bother counting.
Ive played SWTOR, UO, Neverwinter, Everquest 1 and 2, LOTRO, DaoC, STO and im sure afew ive forgotten. They all do bug fixes along with the expansions or DLC. Not exclusively but then neither does ZOS.
They would have to go through consoles "approval" crap before any hotfix or patch of any kind is applied... every single time...
Or just change PC and accept the fact consoles will always be months behind PC...
Elektrakosh wrote: »Would these patches be in the dlc only so you have to get it for the balancing?
DaveMoeDee wrote: »Why would they not release patches until DB? In the past they release patches regularly.
Balance change should not be regular occurrences. If 30 skills will be changed, can you really test balance without testing the final state of all skills at the same time? It is bad enough that rebalances happen at all. If we have to suffer through them, at least make them rare as they are nothing more than a nuisance for a large part of the game's population.
Plus, unless you make all skills weak and identical, you really need to be able to test all the skill changes at the same time to see the net result for each class.
How many people play on PTS year round? Will they get numbers needed if they ask people to be there all year?
True, but do you think you will ever play a bug free game that is worth playing?
ESO has less bugs than any TES game, oblivion and skyrim are still filled with the same bugs they released with, and there all single player.
charley222 wrote: »yea is very sad how this game is balance , in my book the guy dont play game and have any clue of what is doing , i think is very obvious , just a little quick exemple everyone know from release heavy armor is far too be the best(pve and pvp)and never have very good passive , and today heavy never be fix and on the top of this is more worst because all stack penetration , make def useless , idk what the guy is working too balance this game thinking sometime ,idk this just make any sense , and dont have any hope of the people are in place for this issue because the very abyssal capacity of thinking and fix issue in the pass , a lot of problem are from release and is still now fix today , not very fun for player
have a nice day peace +1 op
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