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ZoS Crystal Fragments should be unreflectable

  • Jsmalls
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    On a serious note can endless fury not hit like a soft pillow pre 30% or 20% or whatever, mine does about 1/3 of the damage my force pulse does, it's just embarrassing.
  • xXNesTXx
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    Why someone who have a DK character in the signature wants something like that?

    Anyways.....what is the difference between Crystal Fragments and....for example....Dark Flare? if Crystal Fragments turns unreflactable, why not Dark Flare or another projectile too?

    CF can be reflected, but you can dodge it if that happens....

    So....definitely not, to your request....
    Edited by xXNesTXx on February 1, 2016 2:59AM
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  • bosmern_ESO
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    On a serious note can endless fury not hit like a soft pillow pre 30% or 20% or whatever, mine does about 1/3 of the damage my force pulse does, it's just embarrassing.

    It's an execute, its not supposed to do a lot of damage when they are not in execute range. Its the same for Nightblades impale and whirlwind/reverse slash.
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  • Cody
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    On a serious note can endless fury not hit like a soft pillow pre 30% or 20% or whatever, mine does about 1/3 of the damage my force pulse does, it's just embarrassing.

    it is meant to be used on low health enemies much like assassins blade and radiant destruction, reverse slash for 2H
  • Berserkur
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    Just imagine this could be an Argonian DK and he is simply just swim away from your Frags
    # nerfswimspeed
  • DHale
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    As someone with a sorc main the only thing sorcs need is no delay from streak to actual time in streak. Making frags unreflective is down right ridiculous. I am no Reddington James or Ezereth or the arcane or German but I have when I go duel wield and carry 42 k plus magic, I can two shot players quite easily. It's silly and glad it is tough to run such a build and sustain.
    Edited by DHale on February 1, 2016 5:32AM
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  • Videira
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    I think they should buff cloak so that everyones screen goes dark when you use it.
  • koby-xxrwb17_ESO
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    DHale wrote: »
    As someone with a sorc main the only thing sorcs need is no delay from streak to actual time in streak. Making frags unreflective is down right ridiculous. I am no Reddington James or Ezereth or the arcane or German but I have when I go duel wield and carry 42 k plus magic, I can two shot players quite easily. It's silly and glad it is tough to run such a build and sustain.

    For some reason I laughed at how many good sorc players you had to list to get your point across
  • Tankqull
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    Plz make it so that no one can ever leave my Standard of Might and that it lasts for about 10 minutes

    could my nova atleast last as long as standart, deal as much dmg, have a heal debuff and is as instantly placed as standart?
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  • Alucardo
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    Videira wrote: »
    I think they should buff cloak so that everyones screen goes dark when you use it.

    Finally a reasonable request. THANK YOU.
  • JaJaLuka
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    Manoekin wrote: »
    Equip a shield.

    Pretty much this ^ . I do it when I encounter people reflecting my frags.
    I main a Sorc and don't agree with the OP.
    Minno wrote: »
    Make the crystal frag do 50% of its current damage with no knockdown and a constant 1 second cast time and I MIGHT agree to making it unblock-able.

    Or remove the streak cost penalty to compensate for frag being reflectable.

    Also, this ^ . Remove streak cost penalty please to compensate for how horrible the physics on the ability are now (and trust me anyone who doesn't play a sorc, they are horrible).

    @ZOS_GinaBruno please tell off the guy who thought of those physics. Don't make me make Spiderman take over this thread...
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    JaJaLuka wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno please tell off the guy who thought of those physics. Don't make me make Spiderman take over this thread...
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  • Tower_Of_Shame
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    Lisbette wrote: »
    With all the upcoming buffs to magicka Dragonknights (flappy flap) and Sword and Board reflect still strong I think Crystal Shards and it's morphs should be unreflectable. Just make the animation the same as Endless Fury drop a Crystal Shard on DK's head ftw. Amirite?
    -Tito

    While you are at it. I suggest that if u have hardened ward the 80% of the taken dmg should be returned as:
    - health, magicka, stamina, and additional shield ofc

    Just a quick show case, u take 10k damage, you got 8k hp/mag/stam and 8k shield :dizzy:

    Thy.

    L2P and go cry somewhere else.

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    Edited by Tower_Of_Shame on February 1, 2016 11:19AM
  • MountainHound
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    xXNesTXx wrote: »
    Why someone who have a DK character in the signature wants something like that?

    Anyways.....what is the difference between Crystal Fragments and....for example....Dark Flare? if Crystal Fragments turns unreflactable, why not Dark Flare or another projectile too?

    CF can be reflected, but you can dodge it if that happens....

    So....definitely not, to your request....

    Or you can reflect it back with that shield ability.
  • Vynist
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    In all seriousness, what are the buffs to DK's? Or is it all just rumors still?
  • Dreyloch
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    Lisbette wrote: »
    With all the upcoming buffs to magicka Dragonknights (flappy flap) and Sword and Board reflect still strong I think Crystal Shards and it's morphs should be unreflectable. Just make the animation the same as Endless Fury drop a Crystal Shard on DK's head ftw. Amirite?
    -Tito

    Fine, I'll give you the unreflectable if you give my DK the ability to bypass your shields with full unresistable dmg at all times. Without the use of shieldbreaker gear. Sound fair? Yeah...I didn't think so
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    JaJaLuka wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno please tell off the guy who thought of those physics. Don't make me make Spiderman take over this thread...
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    Better to bank on which one of those is more likely.

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  • riverdragon72
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    *Flappity Flaps this whole thread*
    Meh...**** it..
  • Aunatar
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    Let's make a skill that kills you instantly when you get into his 38m range. Of course it has to be a toggle because it would be a sorcerer skill :3
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  • Lisbette
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    @ZOS_BrianWheeler any update on this?!?!
  • CamBam370
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    No NO NO NO No NO NO NO NO , Sorcs are op already
    Don´t give the developers more ideas.

    #Buff Mag Dk

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  • Edziu
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    CamBam370 wrote: »
    No NO NO NO No NO NO NO NO , Sorcs are op already
    Don´t give the developers more ideas.

    #Buff Mag Dk

    NEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRFFFFFFFFFF SSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRCCCCCCCCCSSSSSS

    sooooo

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/248679/if-zos-still-very-like-nerfs-i-have-then-very-good-idea?new=1

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  • KenaPKK
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    "Projectile."

    Also, I know several sorcs who don't have an issue with Magicka DKs...
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  • tinythinker
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    Make the crystal frag do 50% of its current damage with no knockdown and a constant 1 second cast time and I MIGHT agree to making it unblock-able.
    In all seriousness, I would be OK if Crystal Blast could be reflected but the AoE splash still hit nearby allies of the target :tongue: Blast is always a slow hard-cast, no instant proc.

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  • Tankqull
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    "Projectile."

    Also, I know several sorcs who don't have an issue with Magicka DKs...

    sure they can allways turn around and go somewhere else as the DK has no chance to follow as a magica DK... :wink:

    but as a magica sorc you have no option to actually kill a good played magica DK.
    Edited by Tankqull on February 21, 2016 9:31PM
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    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Derra
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    "Projectile."

    Also, I know several sorcs who don't have an issue with Magicka DKs...

    sure they can allways turn around and go somewhere else as the DK has no chance to follow as a magica DK... :wink:

    but as a magica sorc you have no option to actually kill a good played magica DK.

    You do - you just have to teleport away slot atleast 6 new skills and pray to all gods he does not have purge.
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  • Cody
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    "Projectile."

    Also, I know several sorcs who don't have an issue with Magicka DKs...

    sure they can allways turn around and go somewhere else as the DK has no chance to follow as a magica DK... :wink:

    but as a magica sorc you have no option to actually kill a good played magica DK.
    Lisbette wrote: »
    @ZOS_BrianWheeler any update on this?!?!

    it is not going to happen. ZOS is already modifying fragments, and making them OP unreflectable is not among them.

    do you not realize how OP this skill would be if it were unreflectable? mana DKs would stand literally no chance against a mana sorc at that point. Mana DKs are already bad enough, they dont need any more disadvantages.
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    OP Please do not just request buffs because you want to be a god. if it bothers you so wait for the proc to sneak attack Crystal frag on the DK.

    BUT sorcs as it stands are strong, strong enough to solo IC depths
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  • Alucardo
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    but as a magica sorc you have no option to actually kill a good played magica DK.
    Tank them with your arsenal of shields and annulment and use rune prison to drain their stamina, when they can't break CC any more streak through before wings expires and frag. Other than that, prox det, curse, dawnbreaker, lightning staff heavy attacks.
    Sure it's not easy as randomly pressing buttons to kill things like normal sorc play, but the death of a mag dk is achievable
    Edited by Alucardo on February 22, 2016 8:12AM
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