Hip and Butt Flaps: They CAN be removed. Zenimax has done it.

MrDerrikk

Personally I wouldn't mind it so much if we were given a new level of customization in crafting where we could change the shape/size of the pieces such as this. I think of it like the customization of different pieces in the game Spore:



Of course, the parameters of these changes would have to be to a much lesser degree than Spore to refrain from creating things that are too crazy, but it'd make crafting so much more in-depth and add a level of creativity to it. Maybe even add new things crafters could add by way of leveling, finding instructionals' and of course crown store sales.

malchior

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Yeah, this is sooooo important and needed for better game play! smh!

Oh ... I get it ... like the $15 Nord Hero costume added so much to game play?

Yes it did! That's why it cost $20! You know it does, Zeni said so, THAT'S WHY IT COSTS $20!

/sarcasm

CaptainObvious

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

CaptainObvious wrote: »

nicab16_ESO wrote: »

CaptainObvious wrote: »

So technically, you can replicate that. That is a Leather Bosmer medium armor top and a Hide Bosmer medium armor bottom.

Really?
The tops are usually the ones with the flappy bits attached though :S

Sorry, had to edit my response. I just tried it on a character and the tassets showed up when using a leather top. So yeah, she is in "custom" armor.

And ... you broke my heart.

Keep the awesome.

Sorry. Should have measured twice and cut once.

Shogunami

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

I was questing in Coldharbour last night and I came across Faraniel, who sports some really awesome looking armor. My first thought, "Wow, I wonder if I can craft that." And a second later it hit me:

tbh, that armor doesn't look particularly good at all. Looks like a spandex suit. "Hip flaps" would add a bit more sturdy-ness to the overall look of it.

But that's just my opinion. All armors I've worn would probably look worse without the "flaps".

Ragnarock1982

I prefer to have my flaps... hip and but flaps I should say..

Makes the armor look sturdier

Lysette

The female Bosmer heavy iron armor does not have hip flaps and the but flaps have nice patters which can be dyed separately with the pattern in that same color repeating in the chest part of the armor. It looks somewhat iconic to me and has a far better quality than some of the expensive costumes on top of it.



Btw those floating arm cops will stop floating when you provide this lady with the shoulder of an olympia swimmer. someone wielding heavy weapons would have such wide and muscular shoulders - and then those arm cops do not float around any longer but attach to the shoulder in a very good looking way.

Ah well, another hint to make it look better - this armor looks best in my opinion on a small woman. Then the belly button fits into the opening nicely. But once you stretch her - or the character selection screen is stretching her, it will look wierd. It makes me really wonder why ZOS has such a problem with keeping proportions of characters in perspective - this should not be too hard to do for 3D designers.

NewBlacksmurf

I would like those odd things removed...even where someone identified its more accurate, it doesn't look good IMO.

Cosmetic

Gidorick

Lysette wrote: »

The female Bosmer heavy iron armor does not have hip flaps and the but flaps have nice patters which can be dyed separately with the pattern in that same color repeating in the chest part of the armor. It looks somewhat iconic to me and has a far better quality than some of the expensive costumes on top of it.



Btw those floating arm cops will stop floating when you provide this lady with the shoulder of an olympia swimmer. someone wielding heavy weapons would have such wide and muscular shoulders - and then those arm cops do not float around any longer but attach to the shoulder in a very good looking way.

Ah well, another hint to make it look better - this armor looks best in my opinion on a small woman. Then the belly button fits into the opening nicely. But once you stretch her - or the character selection screen is stretching her, it will look wierd. It makes me really wonder why ZOS has such a problem with keeping proportions of characters in perspective - this should not be too hard to do for 3D designers.

What REALLY impresses me is the sleeves aren't just painted onto the arms!

Moonshadow66

The style in the OP pic looks like Bosmer style. It doesn't have these flaps, that's why some of my characters were wearing it for a long time (both medium and light).

I really wish we could disable/hide these, along with the other outstanding and floating things like shoulder parts and these knee things (sorry I don't know the word for these).

Lysette

Gidorick wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

The female Bosmer heavy iron armor does not have hip flaps and the but flaps have nice patters which can be dyed separately with the pattern in that same color repeating in the chest part of the armor. It looks somewhat iconic to me and has a far better quality than some of the expensive costumes on top of it.



Btw those floating arm cops will stop floating when you provide this lady with the shoulder of an olympia swimmer. someone wielding heavy weapons would have such wide and muscular shoulders - and then those arm cops do not float around any longer but attach to the shoulder in a very good looking way.

Ah well, another hint to make it look better - this armor looks best in my opinion on a small woman. Then the belly button fits into the opening nicely. But once you stretch her - or the character selection screen is stretching her, it will look wierd. It makes me really wonder why ZOS has such a problem with keeping proportions of characters in perspective - this should not be too hard to do for 3D designers.

What REALLY impresses me is the sleeves aren't just painted onto the arms!

Yes and due to that it has a lot of light colors in it, you can basically adapt it to every color you might want to use on it. It is iron armor, but when you use book cover brown on it and white or sand brown on the patterns, it makes it look like an embroidered leather set - which looks amazing actually - it does not look like painted on the skin when you dye it like that, those colors seem to give it depth. I like to dye stuff, and that is, what is so bad that costumes do not come with that feature. Anything what enhances creativity of players in the game makes it 1. fun to play and 2. spend more time on NOT RUSHING through the content, so it will last a lot longer. And this is not just a female thing, I have seen men working on their armor dyes for a very long time until they were satisfied with the result - men like to look awesome as well, not just we women.

Elara_Northwind

I don't know if this bug still exists, but I used to wear the khajiit robe a couple of months ago, and the 'hip flaps' were broken on it, so were inside the actual robe and invisible, could only see the top bit of them poke through once in a while. I was really disappointed when this bug was not present after making new clothes...

Lysette

SadieJoan wrote: »

I don't know if this bug still exists, but I used to wear the khajiit robe a couple of months ago, and the 'hip flaps' were broken on it, so were inside the actual robe and invisible, could only see the top bit of them poke through once in a while. I was really disappointed when this bug was not present after making new clothes...

Hm, I guess you are talking about a male khajiit, they have an overly bulky figure with the same values compared to females. So maybe those flaps were adjusted in a way, that they do not float far apart from female shapes and this brought them inside the armor for those khajiit, which prefered a more bulky build. Female khajiit are overly skinny, but it works somewhat if you make their height the smallest possible. This is a general problem in this game - male characters are far too bulky for my taste and females are anorexic - and in many costumes they get boyish hips. Who the heck came to the idea to mess with female hips in that way - this is one of the vital things, that the relation from waist to hips schould be about 0.7 for highest attraction. It goes in direction of zero attraction, when this relation approaches 1 - like with male shapes or boyish hips.

dsalter

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't mind it so much if we were given a new level of customization in crafting where we could change the shape/size of the pieces such as this. I think of it like the customization of different pieces in the game Spore:



Of course, the parameters of these changes would have to be to a much lesser degree than Spore to refrain from creating things that are too crazy, but it'd make crafting so much more in-depth and add a level of creativity to it. Maybe even add new things crafters could add by way of leveling, finding instructionals' and of course crown store sales.

ahh spore.. might need to jump back on that today...

anyways i'd just be happy if they made shoulders and such fit better onto the model, nobody likes floaty shoulders

Lysette

Gidorick wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

The female Bosmer heavy iron armor does not have hip flaps and the but flaps have nice patters which can be dyed separately with the pattern in that same color repeating in the chest part of the armor. It looks somewhat iconic to me and has a far better quality than some of the expensive costumes on top of it.



Btw those floating arm cops will stop floating when you provide this lady with the shoulder of an olympia swimmer. someone wielding heavy weapons would have such wide and muscular shoulders - and then those arm cops do not float around any longer but attach to the shoulder in a very good looking way.

Ah well, another hint to make it look better - this armor looks best in my opinion on a small woman. Then the belly button fits into the opening nicely. But once you stretch her - or the character selection screen is stretching her, it will look wierd. It makes me really wonder why ZOS has such a problem with keeping proportions of characters in perspective - this should not be too hard to do for 3D designers.

What REALLY impresses me is the sleeves aren't just painted onto the arms!

Another nice effect of these sleeves being actual mesh is, that they cast shadow onto the arms and other things - just look at her right arm, the shadow casted by the sleeve is visible on her upper right arm.

Alucardo

Huehue "butt flaps"

Anilahation

KramUzibra wrote: »

You should be able to toggle all armor pieces on or off. Sometimes I just wanna showing off my nords awesome abs but if I do i loose resistance and armor buffs

I'd definitely play orc if we got a hide chest option.

Islyn

JD2013 wrote: »

nicab16_ESO wrote: »

OHMYGOD those ugly hip flaps can get taken off?!

They are so horrendous. They seem to be able to fly even! Just floating in mid air next to your leg. And the way they move when your char runs looks so broken.

Now I'm actually wondering why they ever made them in the first place!

Because that person's armour looks like an all in one catsuit or a onesie?

Your point being? Looks better than weird flappy hip stuff.

phreatophile

Gidorick wrote: »

The tassets really should be part of the BELT and not the pants.

The tassets should be part of the deepest pit of oblivion!

Even the Bosmer armor gets the *** after level 25ish.

Edit: Who knew a word for rubber parts that keep the tires from throwing mud on the car would be censored? They also look a bit like cast off tire retreads.

EQBallzz

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Yeah, this is sooooo important and needed for better game play! smh!

Oh ... I get it ... like the $15 Nord Hero costume added so much to game play?

I like your style.

Mettaricana

I wosh theybwould make all the front and back flaps part of the belt this would atleast allow us to pic and choose the parts we see dor the flaps

Praeficere

KramUzibra wrote: »

Sometimes I just wanna showing off my nords awesome abs but if I do i loose resistance and armor buffs

Tighten a second rope around them.

Gilvoth

best thread ever started.

Kaliki

I haven't seen anyone mention flying elbow caps yet.

Khaos_Bane

nicab16_ESO wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

nicab16_ESO wrote: »

OHMYGOD those ugly hip flaps can get taken off?!

They are so horrendous. They seem to be able to fly even! Just floating in mid air next to your leg. And the way they move when your char runs looks so broken.

Now I'm actually wondering why they ever made them in the first place!

Because that person's armour looks like an all in one catsuit or a onesie?

Lol what? Are we looking at the same thing?
Her armor looks clearly separated into chest, belt and legs.

No, it actually looks like a onesie.

Eleusian

The shoulders or hip/ butt flap doesn't look natural at all on light armor. Like putting football shoulder pads over a mages robe. Doesn't seem to work

Iove

Eleusian wrote: »

The shoulders or hip/ butt flap doesn't look natural at all on light armor. Like putting football shoulder pads over a mages robe. Doesn't seem to work

Nailed it

KatzMainTank

LMAO, a onesie!

Not only would being able to toggle armor on and off be one of the best things to ever happen in the ESO fashion world, but it should of been available from the beginning.

#MakeOnesiesHappenZoS

IrishGirlGamer

Kaliki wrote: »

I haven't seen anyone mention flying elbow caps yet.

I actually commented on this in another thread. Flying elbow caps and floating knee caps.

Yeah.

Malsidius

Aye, hip flaps suck.

Malsidius

IMO, Anything that floats should have a toggle option.