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Hip and Butt Flaps: They CAN be removed. Zenimax has done it.

IrishGirlGamer
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I wanted to title this thread: "Zenimax: What Gives??" Notice that I restrained myself.

I was questing in Coldharbour last night and I came across Faraniel, who sports some really awesome looking armor. My first thought, "Wow, I wonder if I can craft that." And a second later it hit me:

No, I can't. And I can't because when I craft armor it has those silly faulds (or cuisses, if you prefer, anyway hip flaps) and butt and, eh, other flaps. Some people like them. Many people don't. Included in the category of people who DON'T like them are certain Zenimax game designers!!

And when Zenimax designers make armor (when you read this, you should really try to imagine hearing your annoying Aunt Emma's whiny voice), THEY get to toggle them off. And, of course, THEY end up with much better looking armor. This pic proves it:

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C'mon, Zenimax. It's time to give us the toggle. Please???

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  • Iove
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    OHMYGOD those ugly hip flaps can get taken off?!

    They are so horrendous. They seem to be able to fly even! Just floating in mid air next to your leg. And the way they move when your char runs looks so broken.

    Now I'm actually wondering why they ever made them in the first place!
  • JD2013
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    OHMYGOD those ugly hip flaps can get taken off?!

    They are so horrendous. They seem to be able to fly even! Just floating in mid air next to your leg. And the way they move when your char runs looks so broken.

    Now I'm actually wondering why they ever made them in the first place!

    Because that person's armour looks like an all in one catsuit or a onesie?
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  • KramUzibra
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    You should be able to toggle all armor pieces on or off. Sometimes I just wanna showing off my nords awesome abs but if I do i loose resistance and armor buffs
  • CaptainObvious
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    Edit: Tassets show up with the leather top and not the bottom.
    Edited by CaptainObvious on January 30, 2016 9:46PM
    Due to a typo in the system, the area was accosted by the Daedric Prince Moar Lag Brawls.
  • IrishGirlGamer
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    OHMYGOD those ugly hip flaps can get taken off?!

    They are so horrendous. They seem to be able to fly even! Just floating in mid air next to your leg. And the way they move when your char runs looks so broken.

    Now I'm actually wondering why they ever made them in the first place!

    Because that person's armour looks like an all in one catsuit or a onesie?

    Onesie? Hmm ... not really. I mean, there's clearly a belt area, even if the NPC isn't wearing a belt or sash.

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  • Iove
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    OHMYGOD those ugly hip flaps can get taken off?!

    They are so horrendous. They seem to be able to fly even! Just floating in mid air next to your leg. And the way they move when your char runs looks so broken.

    Now I'm actually wondering why they ever made them in the first place!

    Because that person's armour looks like an all in one catsuit or a onesie?

    Lol what? Are we looking at the same thing?
    Her armor looks clearly separated into chest, belt and legs.

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    Yeah, this is sooooo important and needed for better game play! smh!
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  • Iove
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    So technically, you can replicate that. That is a Leather Bosmer medium armor top and a Hide Bosmer medium armor bottom.

    Really?
    The tops are usually the ones with the flappy bits attached though :S
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    So technically, you can replicate that. That is a Leather Bosmer medium armor top and a Hide Bosmer medium armor bottom.

    Wow, I just checked on ESO Fashion and you're right. You get an awesome for pointing that out!

    I've never been a fan of Bosmer armor, until now.

    (Sorry, but I still think the flaps need to be a toggle ....)

    Thank you very much @CaptainObvious!

    Edited by IrishGirlGamer on January 30, 2016 9:47PM
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  • CaptainObvious
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    So technically, you can replicate that. That is a Leather Bosmer medium armor top and a Hide Bosmer medium armor bottom.

    Really?
    The tops are usually the ones with the flappy bits attached though :S

    Sorry, had to edit my response. I just tried it on a character and the tassets showed up when using a leather top. So yeah, she is in "custom" armor.
    Due to a typo in the system, the area was accosted by the Daedric Prince Moar Lag Brawls.
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    Kaliki wrote: »
    Completed: Ask the Wood Elf for help.
    Did you ask for her clothes?

    No, but next time you bet I will ... I like the color, too. :)

    I'll offer to trade my newly made Imperial medium jester's outfit. She will say no. I will be sad.

    Valar Morghulis.

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    So technically, you can replicate that. That is a Leather Bosmer medium armor top and a Hide Bosmer medium armor bottom.

    Really?
    The tops are usually the ones with the flappy bits attached though :S

    Sorry, had to edit my response. I just tried it on a character and the tassets showed up when using a leather top. So yeah, she is in "custom" armor.

    And ... you broke my heart.

    Keep the awesome. :(

    Valar Morghulis.

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  • CaptainObvious
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    So technically, you can replicate that. That is a Leather Bosmer medium armor top and a Hide Bosmer medium armor bottom.

    Wow, I just checked on ESO Fashion and you're right. You get an awesome for pointing that out!

    I've never been a fan of Bosmer armor, until now.

    (Sorry, but I still think the flaps need to be a toggle ....)

    Thank you very much @CaptainObvious!

    Sorry, but I may have to lose that awesome point. I just tried it with leather top and hide bottom and did get tassets.

    So I was incorrect.
    Due to a typo in the system, the area was accosted by the Daedric Prince Moar Lag Brawls.
  • IrishGirlGamer
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    Yeah, this is sooooo important and needed for better game play! smh!

    Oh ... I get it ... like the $15 Nord Hero costume added so much to game play?

    Valar Morghulis.

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    @CaptainObvious is still my hero!
  • Gidorick
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    The tassets really should be part of the BELT and not the pants.
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  • Aelthwyn
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    While I am generally a fan of the flaps, I don't like them on every armor for every character, on some it suits their style, on others it doesn't. Personally I'd love the Primal robes if they didn't have those huge floating bone things on the hips that look like they're going to stab you in the thigh if you sit down. I'd definitely be pleased with a toggle option.
    Gidorick wrote: »
    The tassets really should be part of the BELT and not the pants.
    and speaking of belts, I'd really like to see a whole belt not just a buckle when you equip one while not wearing a top. though I suppose different belts might conflict with different tops, but still....

    Oh and please please could we have an option for skirts or breeches just like we have the option for robes or jerkins?
    Edited by Aelthwyn on January 30, 2016 10:17PM
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    I just don't like that some armor pieces have huge gaps. Why does my orc shield hover 10 inches off my characters arm? Flaps always do this too.
    Edited by Cathexis on January 30, 2016 10:19PM
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  • I55UE5
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    They just need to acknowledge how atrocious they look, and fix them. We don't need toggles for everything. Armor "flaps" look fine on costumes for the most part because the costume changes body shapes to appear more aesthetic. I am sure they can fix armors to do something of the like.

    I have a tall orc that wears heavy Xivkyn. When I switch to the Xivkyn Dreadguard Polymorph, despite my character's similiar body shape, it looks much better. Something is wrong there.
    Edited by I55UE5 on January 30, 2016 10:28PM
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    You are beginning to make me self conscious about the horrible fashion problems in ESO. MOAR.
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    Aelthwyn wrote: »

    Oh and please please could we have an option for skirts or breeches just like we have the option for robes or jerkins?
    This would make me so happy.
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    I don't know. Like this it looks like that character doesn't have any gear/clothes/whatever at all, just painted body. That's not so cool if you ask me. They clearly didn't do very good job in this area and tried to camouflage it with hip flaps and such stuff.

    That being said, they get better and the newer styles are much better already.
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    Jura23 wrote: »
    I don't know. Like this it looks like that character doesn't have any gear/clothes/whatever at all, just painted body. That's not so cool if you ask me. They clearly didn't do very good job in this area and tried to camouflage it with hip flaps and such stuff.

    That being said, they get better and the newer styles are much better already.

    I love her armor.

    She's missing shoulders, belt etc but if she had those she would look fine.

    I would love it if they removed all the flaps and side things. XD or let me toggle them off.
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    You are beginning to make me self conscious about the horrible fashion problems in ESO. MOAR.

    Sorry. Really.

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    Aelthwyn wrote: »
    While I am generally a fan of the flaps, I don't like them on every armor for every character, on some it suits their style, on others it doesn't. Personally I'd love the Primal robes if they didn't have those huge floating bone things on the hips that look like they're going to stab you in the thigh if you sit down. I'd definitely be pleased with a toggle option.
    Gidorick wrote: »
    The tassets really should be part of the BELT and not the pants.
    and speaking of belts, I'd really like to see a whole belt not just a buckle when you equip one while not wearing a top. though I suppose different belts might conflict with different tops, but still....

    Oh and please please could we have an option for skirts or breeches just like we have the option for robes or jerkins?

    You have NO idea how annoying I find it that belts are JUST the buckle. They should be BELTS... and while we're at it... they should include the tassets (hip, groin, & butt flaps)
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  • Iove
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Aelthwyn wrote: »
    While I am generally a fan of the flaps, I don't like them on every armor for every character, on some it suits their style, on others it doesn't. Personally I'd love the Primal robes if they didn't have those huge floating bone things on the hips that look like they're going to stab you in the thigh if you sit down. I'd definitely be pleased with a toggle option.
    Gidorick wrote: »
    The tassets really should be part of the BELT and not the pants.
    and speaking of belts, I'd really like to see a whole belt not just a buckle when you equip one while not wearing a top. though I suppose different belts might conflict with different tops, but still....

    Oh and please please could we have an option for skirts or breeches just like we have the option for robes or jerkins?

    You have NO idea how annoying I find it that belts are JUST the buckle. They should be BELTS... and while we're at it... they should include the tassets (hip, groin, & butt flaps)

    And then the belts should have a hide toggle option :)
  • IrishGirlGamer
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    I55UE5 wrote: »
    They just need to acknowledge how atrocious they look, and fix them. We don't need toggles for everything....

    The logical answer to your question is, no, we do not need toggles for every single element of the game. That would be impossible. And while I've disliked the flaps for some time (wow, have you ever looked at them while running ...) I've held my tongue because I was pretty sure nothing could be done about it. Most of the NPC armor in the game is styled after what we can make and most of it has flaps.

    But this clearly shows that Zenimax can remove flaps if they want. Or, I'll even accept @Gidorick suggestion that they attach to the belt (I'm assuming medium or heavy).

    And the things is, you're right. I want to see them fixed. I also want them to be toggles, for this reason:
    Aelthwyn wrote: »
    While I am generally a fan of the flaps, I don't like them on every armor for every character ...

    A simple toggle for the faps would make armor crafting more unique and would give players a way to style their armor.

    And let me just add this: In all the time I've been on this forum, I've made it pretty clear I'm not a woman who wants my characters running around half-naked. Armor should look like armor. I always wear a helmet or head protection of some kind, and I want to wear armor, not a swimsuit.

    But the flaps and knee caps need to (1) fixed and (2a) toggled or (2b) attached to a belt, per @Gidorick. They just look ugly now.

    Edited by IrishGirlGamer on January 30, 2016 10:51PM
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Aelthwyn wrote: »
    While I am generally a fan of the flaps, I don't like them on every armor for every character, on some it suits their style, on others it doesn't. Personally I'd love the Primal robes if they didn't have those huge floating bone things on the hips that look like they're going to stab you in the thigh if you sit down. I'd definitely be pleased with a toggle option.
    Gidorick wrote: »
    The tassets really should be part of the BELT and not the pants.
    and speaking of belts, I'd really like to see a whole belt not just a buckle when you equip one while not wearing a top. though I suppose different belts might conflict with different tops, but still....

    Oh and please please could we have an option for skirts or breeches just like we have the option for robes or jerkins?

    You have NO idea how annoying I find it that belts are JUST the buckle. They should be BELTS... and while we're at it... they should include the tassets (hip, groin, & butt flaps)

    And then the belts should have a hide toggle option :)

    Yeh I'd think this together would be the simplest option.
    Move the flappy stuff to the belt and then let us hide it.
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    Bump.
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