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Wolf Mounts?
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Don't even get me started on those.nicab16_ESO wrote: »Callous2208 wrote: »nicab16_ESO wrote: »
Lore wise, the senche-raht breed of khajiit was huge, used for mounts and carrying extremely heavy loads. I guess the senche are nothing like the big cats in our world.Callous2208 wrote: »I really don't agree with wolf mounts or the current senche ones for that matter. More from a bone structure standpoint. Carnivores don't have the spine for carrying that sort of weight on their backs. We could go on and on about some other reasons why it just doesn't work but I realize in the end its all just fantasy so these factors really don't matter. I do not believe a dire wolf mount fits with the lore very well either but alas, neither do frosty, flaming, zombie horses.
This is true. Idk, I guess I don't mind bending the rules as long as lore supports it. I just dislike seeing lore completely ignored for the sake of, "oooo that looks cool. " Even if dire wolves exist in the eso universe, I doubt there's anything supporting they can be tamed or ridden as mounts. Also, I doubt there numbers are so great as to support the idea that they are readily available for that purpose.
Yeah but we already have an army of ice, fire and undead ponies
It would be one thing if their existence was at least alluded to in game, but those mounts were squelched in with no context just because they want a quick buck.
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✭✭Callous2208 wrote: »nicab16_ESO wrote: »
Lore wise, the senche-raht breed of khajiit was huge, used for mounts and carrying extremely heavy loads. I guess the senche are nothing like the big cats in our world.Callous2208 wrote: »I really don't agree with wolf mounts or the current senche ones for that matter. More from a bone structure standpoint. Carnivores don't have the spine for carrying that sort of weight on their backs. We could go on and on about some other reasons why it just doesn't work but I realize in the end its all just fantasy so these factors really don't matter. I do not believe a dire wolf mount fits with the lore very well either but alas, neither do frosty, flaming, zombie horses.
This is true. Idk, I guess I don't mind bending the rules as long as lore supports it. I just dislike seeing lore completely ignored for the sake of, "oooo that looks cool. " Even if dire wolves exist in the eso universe, I doubt there's anything supporting they can be tamed or ridden as mounts. Also, I doubt there numbers are so great as to support the idea that they are readily available for that purpose.
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Necrelios✭✭✭✭✭Let's just cut to the chase then. Flying dragon-wolf mount, with a freakin' laser on it's head.
Hey, it's lore friendly. Flying is in ES. So are wolves. Dragons are (arguably) not around during this time period, but it's a dragon-wolf. See? It's totally different. Dwemer could have left lasers laying around somewhere.
Be at ease, though. Camels are just as cool as wolves. At least to one person out there.
I pictured something like this:
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Dire Wolves are MUCH MUCH larger than a dog....
Didn't know we had Dire Wolves in this game.
Edited by Nestor on January 29, 2016 11:15PMEnjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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joleda4ub17_ESO✭✭✭How large are the wolves that a Goblin Wolf Rider uses in classic Dungeons and Dragons? How tall are the Goblins?0 -
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✭✭joleda4ub17_ESO wrote: »How large are the wolves that a Goblin Wolf Rider uses in classic Dungeons and Dragons? How tall are the Goblins?
They're probably close to the height of the Reikling riders and mounts in Morrowind.0 -
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That's a cop out excuse and you know it. Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.1 -
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That's a cop out excuse and you know it. Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
That's a pretty darn rough remark to use on someone who didnt say they were denying anyone anything.0 -
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Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
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Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
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BabeestorGor✭✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »No, just no. If so, the wolf would have to be overgrown and it would look simply bad. Unrealistic.
You should look up Direwolves. Take a wild guess what they looked like and how big they were. Direwolves were around during the time when megafauna was the gold standard so they too had to be bigger to compete against other large predators and have the power to bring down far larger prey.
Direwolves have been mentioned in-universe although the information is lacking. You can find them on the list of fauna for Elder Scrolls on the uesp.net.
Theres no telling if they would be utilized as mounts but theres also nothing stating that they havent. Theres also not enough information to say whether theyre big enough or not for a humaniod to use them as a mount. Surely Bosmer and even Goblins are small enough to mount Direwolves.
Personally I think Senche Tigers/Leopards are much more fitting for Bosmer as the creatures are in high numbers through out Valenwood and the close vicinity to Elswyr means there'd be room for some sort of blending of cultures and utilization of tools and beasts of burden/mounts. But I also have no issue with Direwolves being introduced as a more traditional Bosmer mount.
Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
It could become part of the lore though. Theres always been new lore and/or changes in lore throughout the series.
Maybe dire wolves are a rare breed, almost hunted to extinction, but still found in 1 place.Babeester Gor is the Axe Goddess, the Implacable Anger, the Avenging Daughter and the Earth Guardian.
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✭✭BabeestorGor wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »No, just no. If so, the wolf would have to be overgrown and it would look simply bad. Unrealistic.
You should look up Direwolves. Take a wild guess what they looked like and how big they were. Direwolves were around during the time when megafauna was the gold standard so they too had to be bigger to compete against other large predators and have the power to bring down far larger prey.
Direwolves have been mentioned in-universe although the information is lacking. You can find them on the list of fauna for Elder Scrolls on the uesp.net.
Theres no telling if they would be utilized as mounts but theres also nothing stating that they havent. Theres also not enough information to say whether theyre big enough or not for a humaniod to use them as a mount. Surely Bosmer and even Goblins are small enough to mount Direwolves.
Personally I think Senche Tigers/Leopards are much more fitting for Bosmer as the creatures are in high numbers through out Valenwood and the close vicinity to Elswyr means there'd be room for some sort of blending of cultures and utilization of tools and beasts of burden/mounts. But I also have no issue with Direwolves being introduced as a more traditional Bosmer mount.
Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
It could become part of the lore though. Theres always been new lore and/or changes in lore throughout the series.
Maybe dire wolves are a rare breed, almost hunted to extinction, but still found in 1 place.
Tell that to those who are Lore Masters.ESO is based somewhat on the TES series,and there is a massive amount of lore within each of them,and so far not a single mention of Dire Wolves. It's like saying that Unicorns could be introduced into the game.
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✭Ourorboros wrote: »Wolf-dog is great. As a Husky lover, I had to get that as a pet. Awesome job on the pet. But I would never ride a Husky. A mount needs to be more wolf, less dog. Really, make that ALL wolf, and NO dog. Think Ghost from GOT. That I would buy.
Did I hear dire wolf mounts...?
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Curiously enough, though, Unicorns are already inside TES lore (albeit as a super duper rare mount)BabeestorGor wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »No, just no. If so, the wolf would have to be overgrown and it would look simply bad. Unrealistic.
You should look up Direwolves. Take a wild guess what they looked like and how big they were. Direwolves were around during the time when megafauna was the gold standard so they too had to be bigger to compete against other large predators and have the power to bring down far larger prey.
Direwolves have been mentioned in-universe although the information is lacking. You can find them on the list of fauna for Elder Scrolls on the uesp.net.
Theres no telling if they would be utilized as mounts but theres also nothing stating that they havent. Theres also not enough information to say whether theyre big enough or not for a humaniod to use them as a mount. Surely Bosmer and even Goblins are small enough to mount Direwolves.
Personally I think Senche Tigers/Leopards are much more fitting for Bosmer as the creatures are in high numbers through out Valenwood and the close vicinity to Elswyr means there'd be room for some sort of blending of cultures and utilization of tools and beasts of burden/mounts. But I also have no issue with Direwolves being introduced as a more traditional Bosmer mount.
Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
It could become part of the lore though. Theres always been new lore and/or changes in lore throughout the series.
Maybe dire wolves are a rare breed, almost hunted to extinction, but still found in 1 place.
Tell that to those who are Lore Masters.ESO is based somewhat on the TES series,and there is a massive amount of lore within each of them,and so far not a single mention of Dire Wolves. It's like saying that Unicorns could be introduced into the game.
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Sure, maybe they could add it to the lore. That's pretty much what they did with Arvaak.BabeestorGor wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »No, just no. If so, the wolf would have to be overgrown and it would look simply bad. Unrealistic.
You should look up Direwolves. Take a wild guess what they looked like and how big they were. Direwolves were around during the time when megafauna was the gold standard so they too had to be bigger to compete against other large predators and have the power to bring down far larger prey.
Direwolves have been mentioned in-universe although the information is lacking. You can find them on the list of fauna for Elder Scrolls on the uesp.net.
Theres no telling if they would be utilized as mounts but theres also nothing stating that they havent. Theres also not enough information to say whether theyre big enough or not for a humaniod to use them as a mount. Surely Bosmer and even Goblins are small enough to mount Direwolves.
Personally I think Senche Tigers/Leopards are much more fitting for Bosmer as the creatures are in high numbers through out Valenwood and the close vicinity to Elswyr means there'd be room for some sort of blending of cultures and utilization of tools and beasts of burden/mounts. But I also have no issue with Direwolves being introduced as a more traditional Bosmer mount.
Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
It could become part of the lore though. Theres always been new lore and/or changes in lore throughout the series.
Maybe dire wolves are a rare breed, almost hunted to extinction, but still found in 1 place.
But the crown store barely constitutes as 'lore'. There's no context or narrative connected to it, not even an ingame acknowledgment of its existence or products.0 -
BabeestorGor✭✭✭✭BabeestorGor wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »No, just no. If so, the wolf would have to be overgrown and it would look simply bad. Unrealistic.
You should look up Direwolves. Take a wild guess what they looked like and how big they were. Direwolves were around during the time when megafauna was the gold standard so they too had to be bigger to compete against other large predators and have the power to bring down far larger prey.
Direwolves have been mentioned in-universe although the information is lacking. You can find them on the list of fauna for Elder Scrolls on the uesp.net.
Theres no telling if they would be utilized as mounts but theres also nothing stating that they havent. Theres also not enough information to say whether theyre big enough or not for a humaniod to use them as a mount. Surely Bosmer and even Goblins are small enough to mount Direwolves.
Personally I think Senche Tigers/Leopards are much more fitting for Bosmer as the creatures are in high numbers through out Valenwood and the close vicinity to Elswyr means there'd be room for some sort of blending of cultures and utilization of tools and beasts of burden/mounts. But I also have no issue with Direwolves being introduced as a more traditional Bosmer mount.
Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
It could become part of the lore though. Theres always been new lore and/or changes in lore throughout the series.
Maybe dire wolves are a rare breed, almost hunted to extinction, but still found in 1 place.
Tell that to those who are Lore Masters.ESO is based somewhat on the TES series,and there is a massive amount of lore within each of them,and so far not a single mention of Dire Wolves. It's like saying that Unicorns could be introduced into the game.
And yet each game in the series has added new creatures that were in none of the previous games and were not mentioned in the lore prior to their appearance. There have also been creatures like the lizardmen of Arena who made an appearance but have never been seen or heard of since.Babeester Gor is the Axe Goddess, the Implacable Anger, the Avenging Daughter and the Earth Guardian.
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Sure, maybe they could add it to the lore. That's pretty much what they did with Arvaak.BabeestorGor wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »No, just no. If so, the wolf would have to be overgrown and it would look simply bad. Unrealistic.
You should look up Direwolves. Take a wild guess what they looked like and how big they were. Direwolves were around during the time when megafauna was the gold standard so they too had to be bigger to compete against other large predators and have the power to bring down far larger prey.
Direwolves have been mentioned in-universe although the information is lacking. You can find them on the list of fauna for Elder Scrolls on the uesp.net.
Theres no telling if they would be utilized as mounts but theres also nothing stating that they havent. Theres also not enough information to say whether theyre big enough or not for a humaniod to use them as a mount. Surely Bosmer and even Goblins are small enough to mount Direwolves.
Personally I think Senche Tigers/Leopards are much more fitting for Bosmer as the creatures are in high numbers through out Valenwood and the close vicinity to Elswyr means there'd be room for some sort of blending of cultures and utilization of tools and beasts of burden/mounts. But I also have no issue with Direwolves being introduced as a more traditional Bosmer mount.
Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
It could become part of the lore though. Theres always been new lore and/or changes in lore throughout the series.
Maybe dire wolves are a rare breed, almost hunted to extinction, but still found in 1 place.
But the crown store barely constitutes as 'lore'. There's no context or narrative connected to it, not even an ingame acknowledgment of its existence or products.
Agreed but creatures can be placed in game in a previously unexplored area in a dlc.Babeester Gor is the Axe Goddess, the Implacable Anger, the Avenging Daughter and the Earth Guardian.
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But it seems that ZOS is not willing to include new mounts as anything other than crown store purchases. Requests to put the crown store mounts in the in-game world were all but denied and them trying to validate anything other than normal horses in the game world have by and large been ignored (except for books where mounts are already described).BabeestorGor wrote: »
Sure, maybe they could add it to the lore. That's pretty much what they did with Arvaak.BabeestorGor wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »No, just no. If so, the wolf would have to be overgrown and it would look simply bad. Unrealistic.
You should look up Direwolves. Take a wild guess what they looked like and how big they were. Direwolves were around during the time when megafauna was the gold standard so they too had to be bigger to compete against other large predators and have the power to bring down far larger prey.
Direwolves have been mentioned in-universe although the information is lacking. You can find them on the list of fauna for Elder Scrolls on the uesp.net.
Theres no telling if they would be utilized as mounts but theres also nothing stating that they havent. Theres also not enough information to say whether theyre big enough or not for a humaniod to use them as a mount. Surely Bosmer and even Goblins are small enough to mount Direwolves.
Personally I think Senche Tigers/Leopards are much more fitting for Bosmer as the creatures are in high numbers through out Valenwood and the close vicinity to Elswyr means there'd be room for some sort of blending of cultures and utilization of tools and beasts of burden/mounts. But I also have no issue with Direwolves being introduced as a more traditional Bosmer mount.
Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
It could become part of the lore though. Theres always been new lore and/or changes in lore throughout the series.
Maybe dire wolves are a rare breed, almost hunted to extinction, but still found in 1 place.
But the crown store barely constitutes as 'lore'. There's no context or narrative connected to it, not even an ingame acknowledgment of its existence or products.
Agreed but creatures can be placed in game in a previously unexplored area in a dlc.
Now don't get me wrong, if the dire wolf mount actually appeared in game (preferably tied to a difficult quest chain relating to it with lore book entries to boot) then I would say Dire Wolves would be a nice addition to the game. But I just can't see ZOS doing it that way. They are most likely going to put it in the crown store and leave it at that.0 -
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✭✭BabeestorGor wrote: »BabeestorGor wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »No, just no. If so, the wolf would have to be overgrown and it would look simply bad. Unrealistic.
You should look up Direwolves. Take a wild guess what they looked like and how big they were. Direwolves were around during the time when megafauna was the gold standard so they too had to be bigger to compete against other large predators and have the power to bring down far larger prey.
Direwolves have been mentioned in-universe although the information is lacking. You can find them on the list of fauna for Elder Scrolls on the uesp.net.
Theres no telling if they would be utilized as mounts but theres also nothing stating that they havent. Theres also not enough information to say whether theyre big enough or not for a humaniod to use them as a mount. Surely Bosmer and even Goblins are small enough to mount Direwolves.
Personally I think Senche Tigers/Leopards are much more fitting for Bosmer as the creatures are in high numbers through out Valenwood and the close vicinity to Elswyr means there'd be room for some sort of blending of cultures and utilization of tools and beasts of burden/mounts. But I also have no issue with Direwolves being introduced as a more traditional Bosmer mount.
Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
It could become part of the lore though. Theres always been new lore and/or changes in lore throughout the series.
Maybe dire wolves are a rare breed, almost hunted to extinction, but still found in 1 place.
Tell that to those who are Lore Masters.ESO is based somewhat on the TES series,and there is a massive amount of lore within each of them,and so far not a single mention of Dire Wolves. It's like saying that Unicorns could be introduced into the game.
And yet each game in the series has added new creatures that were in none of the previous games and were not mentioned in the lore prior to their appearance. There have also been creatures like the lizardmen of Arena who made an appearance but have never been seen or heard of since.
And yet each game adds new creatures,...like which new creatures? Are you including every game after Arena too? Daggerfall,Morrowind,Oblivion,and Skyrim? Just curious which new creatures you mean.
Not trying to be snarky.0 -
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Creatures can also be made available for mounts without being too widespread. See nightmare, frostmare, etc.BabeestorGor wrote: »Agreed but creatures can be placed in game in a previously unexplored area in a dlc.
If everything else fails, there's always "a mad wizard is using magic to grow creatures to huge size for mounts"...
(When leisure time looms, some may like to read up on the Forgotten Realms mad-wizardish Harpell family and their quest for... giant frog mounts???
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Well, we do have guar in the game... we also have non-mount bears and senche... I'd say that at least is somethingto refute your statement. True, some mounts... are less represented in-game. As to say, not at all at this time... nightmares etc.? Well, maybe someday we'll see them in a cutscene for some daedra commander to ride upon or something...But it seems that ZOS is not willing to include new mounts as anything other than crown store purchases. Requests to put the crown store mounts in the in-game world were all but denied and them trying to validate anything other than normal horses in the game world have by and large been ignored (except for books where mounts are already described).0 -
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✭✭TheShadowScout wrote: »
Creatures can also be made available for mounts without being too widespread. See nightmare, frostmare, etc.BabeestorGor wrote: »Agreed but creatures can be placed in game in a previously unexplored area in a dlc.
If everything else fails, there's always "a mad wizard is using magic to grow creatures to huge size for mounts"...
(When leisure time looms, some may like to read up on the Forgotten Realms mad-wizardish Harpell family and their quest for... giant frog mounts??? )
Well, we do have guar in the game... we also have non-mount bears and senche... I'd say that at least is somethingto refute your statement. True, some mounts... are less represented in-game. As to say, not at all at this time... nightmares etc.? Well, maybe someday we'll see them in a cutscene for some daedra commander to ride upon or something...But it seems that ZOS is not willing to include new mounts as anything other than crown store purchases. Requests to put the crown store mounts in the in-game world were all but denied and them trying to validate anything other than normal horses in the game world have by and large been ignored (except for books where mounts are already described).
How about the black Nightmare horse in Oblivion,or the Skeleton horse Arvak?0 -
BabeestorGor✭✭✭✭BabeestorGor wrote: »BabeestorGor wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »No, just no. If so, the wolf would have to be overgrown and it would look simply bad. Unrealistic.
You should look up Direwolves. Take a wild guess what they looked like and how big they were. Direwolves were around during the time when megafauna was the gold standard so they too had to be bigger to compete against other large predators and have the power to bring down far larger prey.
Direwolves have been mentioned in-universe although the information is lacking. You can find them on the list of fauna for Elder Scrolls on the uesp.net.
Theres no telling if they would be utilized as mounts but theres also nothing stating that they havent. Theres also not enough information to say whether theyre big enough or not for a humaniod to use them as a mount. Surely Bosmer and even Goblins are small enough to mount Direwolves.
Personally I think Senche Tigers/Leopards are much more fitting for Bosmer as the creatures are in high numbers through out Valenwood and the close vicinity to Elswyr means there'd be room for some sort of blending of cultures and utilization of tools and beasts of burden/mounts. But I also have no issue with Direwolves being introduced as a more traditional Bosmer mount.
Were Frost Mare's in the lore? Fire Horses? Riding Bears? Zombie mounts? Senche Lionesses roaming everywhere with Orc's on their backs? ESO has done tons of things not in line with lore and it's a poor excuse to try and deny wolf mounts to people who want them. At least wolves would have a better run animation than bears, that shiz is just ugly.
First of all, I don't deny anything. I discuss things. Second, you clearly did not get the humor of my first post.
However since you brought lore into this, we have had demonic possessed horses in this game
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shadowmere (also in Oblivion)
We have had bears in the series before. We have had large cats. Senche Lions are part of the Lore. What we have not had are oversized wolves from a different lore be included. (Game of Thrones was it? that was the only reference I could find on Google) Of course ZOS could offer this. It just would not be part of the Lore. That is plain and simple.
It could become part of the lore though. Theres always been new lore and/or changes in lore throughout the series.
Maybe dire wolves are a rare breed, almost hunted to extinction, but still found in 1 place.
Tell that to those who are Lore Masters.ESO is based somewhat on the TES series,and there is a massive amount of lore within each of them,and so far not a single mention of Dire Wolves. It's like saying that Unicorns could be introduced into the game.
And yet each game in the series has added new creatures that were in none of the previous games and were not mentioned in the lore prior to their appearance. There have also been creatures like the lizardmen of Arena who made an appearance but have never been seen or heard of since.
And yet each game adds new creatures,...like which new creatures? Are you including every game after Arena too? Daggerfall,Morrowind,Oblivion,and Skyrim? Just curious which new creatures you mean.
Not trying to be snarky.
Yes, every game after Arena (although in Oblivion it was just variations on existing creatures like land dreugh IIRC).
A few examples:- Daggerfall - Centaur, Dragonling, Dreugh, Gargoyle, Giant, Harpy, Imp, Lamia, Nymph, Spriggan
- Morrowind - Ash Creatures. Kwama, Guar, Alit, Kagouti, Bonewalkers, Bonelords, Netch
- Skyrim - Ash Hopper, Skeever, Chaurus, Hagraven, Ice Wraith, Wisp Mother
Pretty sure ESO has added a few too. Tamriel is a large land, much of it unvisited since Arena, and I wouldn't want the game limited to the 22 monsters from Arena. I think theres still space for a few more undiscovered by the players species.Babeester Gor is the Axe Goddess, the Implacable Anger, the Avenging Daughter and the Earth Guardian.
Vriddi gra-Yildnarz, Dragonknight and Smith
Myrvanwe, Sorcerer and Enchanter
Tsajirra, Nightblade and Clothier
Vilvyni Indarys, Dragonknight and Woodworker
Arielle Alouette, Templar and Provisioner
Fishes in Troubled Waters, Nightblade and Alchemist
Shanika Some Long Title I'd Change If I Could, Templar and Aspirant Jeweller
Pippi Longhorn, Nightblade, Ne'er-do-well, and "Tribute" character
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✭✭✭✭✭heres an idea, create the fkn lore?!! why is everything have to be tied to lore, its fantasy, meaning the strange and supernatural can exist.0 -
Aquanova✭✭✭✭✭If i might somewhat add to this topic, i would really like to see beetle mounts (yes i know ultima.. but did you see those giant beetles in the desert of stros mkai? right.
Also please for the grace of all that is holy give us emu mounts, yes the bird.
And if you think thats silly, people actually ride them, type it into google.
You know before I got to your post I was thinking of how cool a Kwama mount would be. Especially for my Argonian DK
Currently he rides around on a guar, but they look a little cartoonish for my liking.NA/PC0
