Why can't assult and support lines be unlocked by doing pve and pvp be able to unlock pve n pvp

found1779

I'm level 6 in assult and support lines i just want to be able to level up the skills without having to do pvp anymore i get so aggravated playing pvp just to get these skills and i don't care if people say pvp is fun or not i absolutely hate it and i'm sure others do also and just want to pve for these skills since there will be a monster helmet vendor why not do this also and have it to were pvp ppl can unlock pve skills by playing pvp if they like idk why i must suffer playing pvp when i'm not so good at it just to get these freaking skills

Hand_Bacon

I'm going to be rude again, but what can I say?

At what level, in pvp, do you unlock punctuation?

You probably have a point to be made and it would be better served by breaking it down into sentences that made sense. Otherwise it just looks like an angst riddled rage post.

Robotmafia

honestly guys, just stop crying about this... what about the undaunted, fighter and mage guild trees... pvpers have to pve to obtain this skill lines and passives... i agree, that having to unlock it on every char is a huge pain in the ass, but there is nothing wrong with a pvp skill line that requires pvp... PVP is a part of any mmo get over it..

lolo_01b16_ESO

There are different skill lines that are unlocked in different ways, but none of them are required to play the game. They just add a little flavour or make some things a bit easier, so I don't see a problem with having to play in a certain way in order to unlock them.

bertenburnyb16_ESO

hey why have game modes, maps ar any of that stuff, lets just have a big open grass field with 1 quest npc on it and be done with it, everybody can kill everybody and get all quests from the same npc...

AlnilamE

Are you talking about the skill lines or the skills themselves?

Because the skill lines level by earning AP, but the actual skills level by earning XP while having them slotted, just like every other skill.

Can you please clarify what you mean?

found1779

AlnilamE wrote: »

Are you talking about the skill lines or the skills themselves?

Because the skill lines level by earning AP, but the actual skills level by earning XP while having them slotted, just like every other skill.

Can you please clarify what you mean?

Skill lines

DannyLV702

Bruh

found1779

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Bruh

Lol ???

ajwest927

So you want the pvp peeks without doing pvping? If you don't want to put in the work then you don't get the reward.

Angarato

stop asking for freebies. either do the time and get your rewards or dont do it and dont get the rewards. you dont need to have every single thing handed to you, where is your sense of achievement?

Ruben

Have you tried using skills that do damage or are you still using only Bombard?
Did you destroy your VR12 or VR13 gear and switched it for legendary VR16 to get moderately decent stats?

Jhunn

Yes, why not - but then I want all the best gear (Maelstrom, monster sets), undaunted 9, Mages guild 10 and all skyshards by doing PvP and not having to PvE

AlnilamE

OK, as someone who is currently PvPing on 3 characters because I do want some of those skills, I have to ask:

What in that line is so essential that you cannot PvE without it? I've done every dungeon/trial in this game except for vICP and vWGT and I've survived without those skills so far (my highest alliance skill level was 4 until recently).

Just be very clear with yourself: You WANT those skills. You don't NEED them.

If you really hate PvP that much that you don't want to spend time there, just don't.

Tryxus

-lies on the couch and tries to reach the Fanta bottle on the table, but it's just out of reach-

AAAAHH!!

...

Whatevs man, I'm not that thirsty anyway...

Ruben

AlnilamE wrote: »

Just be very clear with yourself: You WANT those skills. You don't NEED them.

You need Vigor to complete vMSA with a stamina character.

Jura23

What if somebody likes fishing. Should he be able to unlock everything by fishing?

sylviermoone

I like farming. I would like to be able to unlock all skill lines by picking flowers.

ZOS make it so.

Unsent.Soul

Hand_Bacon wrote: »

I'm going to be rude again, but what can I say?

At what level, in pvp, do you unlock punctuation?

You probably have a point to be made and it would be better served by breaking it down into sentences that made sense. Otherwise it just looks like an angst riddled rage post.

This before anything.

Sallington

Ruben wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Just be very clear with yourself: You WANT those skills. You don't NEED them.

You need Vigor to complete vMSA with a stamina character.

If someone isn't that type of player that would nut up and just go get the skill, then I don't think they need to worry about trying to complete vMSA anyway.

Ruben

Sallington wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Just be very clear with yourself: You WANT those skills. You don't NEED them.

You need Vigor to complete vMSA with a stamina character.

If someone isn't that type of player that would nut up and just go get the skill, then I don't think they need to worry about trying to complete vMSA anyway.

I want him to try. I want to see his threads when he tries vMSA.

Ourorboros

I mostly PVE, and would love to unlock skills like Caltrops. But I agree with most here...do the work. Or as I like to say:

You have to kill the dragon before you can bed the princess. (Edited version to comply with Big Brother)

Wollust

I'm quite sure you don't reach the age requirement set for this game

Tryxus

Wollust wrote: »

I'm quite sure you don't reach the age requirement set for this game

-dropped my Legos-

There's an age requirement?

ostrapz

Vigor isnt hard to get though, literally like a week

code65536

Ruben wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Just be very clear with yourself: You WANT those skills. You don't NEED them.

You need Vigor to complete vMSA with a stamina character.

If someone isn't that type of player that would nut up and just go get the skill, then I don't think they need to worry about trying to complete vMSA anyway.

I want him to try. I want to see his threads when he tries vMSA.

Careful what you wish for...

omfgitsbatman

Robotmafia wrote: »

honestly guys, just stop crying about this... what about the undaunted, fighter and mage guild trees... pvpers have to pve to obtain this skill lines and passives... i agree, that having to unlock it on every char is a huge pain in the ass, but there is nothing wrong with a pvp skill line that requires pvp... PVP is a part of any mmo get over it..

To get mage's guild, fighter's guild, and undaunted all maxed out combined takes a fraction of the time that assault and support take. If they took roughly the same amount of time, it would be understandable. I have spent the time to max all of these, so I'm not just spouting nonsense.

Both Factions of playstyle have complaints about the other. PVPers whined about having to do PVE to get monster helms. PVEers whine about not being able to level a skill line without a massive time sink in PVP. The monster helm thing is getting addressed (which is frankly ridiculous that you get a monster's head without having to kill that monster). Why not address the Assault/Support Skill lines which take about 20 times longer than any other skill line in the game to max out. I'm not necessarily for being able to level assault/support in PVE, but I will support shortening the time required to max these skill lines out drastically.

I honestly believe that there should be things you can only get from pvp and things you can only get from pve, but since PVP is about to get it all, it's only natural that PVE asks for a similar treatment.

Jura23

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

Robotmafia wrote: »

honestly guys, just stop crying about this... what about the undaunted, fighter and mage guild trees... pvpers have to pve to obtain this skill lines and passives... i agree, that having to unlock it on every char is a huge pain in the ass, but there is nothing wrong with a pvp skill line that requires pvp... PVP is a part of any mmo get over it..

To get mage's guild, fighter's guild, and undaunted all maxed out combined takes a fraction of the time that assault and support take. If they took roughly the same amount of time, it would be understandable. I have spent the time to max all of these, so I'm not just spouting nonsense.

Both Factions of playstyle have complaints about the other. PVPers whined about having to do PVE to get monster helms. PVEers whine about not being able to level a skill line without a massive time sink in PVP. The monster helm thing is getting addressed (which is frankly ridiculous that you get a monster's head without having to kill that monster). Why not address the Assault/Support Skill lines which take about 20 times longer than any other skill line in the game to max out. I'm not necessarily for being able to level assault/support in PVE, but I will support shortening the time required to max these skill lines out drastically.

I honestly believe that there should be things you can only get from pvp and things you can only get from pve, but since PVP is about to get it all, it's only natural that PVE asks for a similar treatment.

This game is designed to not have separate PvE and PvP though. In core, both are the same thing, only PvP is harder because of real ppl + toons having more skillz etc., but in core it's not different from PvE.

AllPlayAndNoWork

Computer says no.........

Alucardo

Lol they move Vigor to rank 5 so PVErs can access it quicker and they still aren't happy. Please leave the only decent thing PVP has to offer alone. We want to encourage people into Cyrodiil, and maybe by the time they finally unlock these skills they might actually enjoy it.
Handing out free alliance war skills they'll never know, and just cheapens them anyway.

mb10

What if I dont want to do pve and want my undaunted, mages guild and fighters guild skill line to go up?

Quit moaning.