ESO - Best MMO of 2015 by MMORPG.COM

Alcast

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Good joke...good joke man, almost believed you

I find it hilarious that someone who plays the game so hard core (and so consumed that he has to put his scores in his sig) will be the first to complain or troll. Way to go on making the argument that casuals make a better community!

True dat >.>

Elloa

Congratulations Zenimax and all the team!!
The Elder Scrolls online is my favourite game since the very start, but it's a joy as loyal player to see so many improvements, and to see the team still passionated about the game they are creating!

Tarrin

It`s deservedly. Gratz ZOS team!

TiberX

Congratz!

Cant even imagine whats coming next if the DLCs keep rolling as promised and PvP lag gets fixed.
On the other hand not many good choices on the market ATM.

NoMoreChillies

haters gonna hate

Gratz ZOS.

I ESO and thats the reason i am here on these forums.

kenpachi480

well deserved

any other game I am always done with after completing the mainstory, because it feels nothing can be done anymore, except repeating, as is ESO a mmo and have this comeback element in it,. enjoyed yesterday 8 hours of epic PVP

and that after 2000 hours,. is a thing to be impressed about

so congratulation Zenimax,. keep it comming

Tower_Of_Shame

kongkim wrote: »

Congrats, ZOS the game is getting better and better

We need the LoL button back !!!

Snowstrider

It would get best mmo 2015 from me if they finally added textchat to consoles

Cously

I dislike many of the changes such as heavy dependance on RNG for everything but no doubt ESO is much better now than it was at launch. Lots of room to improve and expand. I found SWTOR amazing after I tried it again 4 years later. I can imagine ESO will be a monster with 4 years of content, we just have to wait. Proud to be part of it since Day 1!

JD2013

I'm proud to have been playing this game since January 2014. I have seen many changes, many players come, many players go. And more come. I've never been in an MMO since beta tests onwards, and it just makes you feel good to be a part of a community for so long, despite some things occasionally being rather shaky.

But ZOS have tried. Oh how they have tried to appeal to everyone and there's been a lot of collateral damage. They're certainly by no means perfect, but goodness I love this game despite all its imperfections. Because nothing is ever perfect. But an MMO of the Elder Scrolls excited me when it was announced and it still excites me nearly two years later (next month!)

I am very excited for the first two DLC's of 2016 (Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood) excited for the new, big story brewing in game (no spoilers from me!) and look forward to where our adventures take us in 2016.

If they can fix the main bulk of the problems then that would be swell. But I'm not going to rave on about the problems. We know what they are and ZOS knows what they are.

Long live Tamriel and ESO

Rune_Relic

Magdalina wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Good joke...good joke man, almost believed you

I find it hilarious that someone who plays the game so hard core (and so consumed that he has to put his scores in his sig) will be the first to complain or troll. Way to go on making the argument that casuals make a better community!

lol very true. The vast majority of the people I'm friends with in-game are definitely casuals. The hard-core folks I've interacted with have, nearly without exception, been the worst complainers, whiners, and generally unfun people. Now obviously there are some exceptions to that, and there are hard-core folks out there who are just fine members of the community, but as a general rule casuals make a far, far better community.

I would just like to point out that's not entirely true. I'd say it's more of a person issue than hardcore/casual one. You can be pretty hardcore and still nice to new/learning people. And you can be a "casual" and a total jerk(this is absolutely not directed at you as you seem quite a nice person, judging by your posts on forums, but just personal experience from some in-game interaction). To be honest there's nothing that annoys me more than chosen "casual" people who think that "I'm casual" is an excuse to absolutely refuse to learn, ignore all mechanics/any kind of instructions, basically force the "more hardcore" folks to carry them all the way and complain about others if they die/wipe the group.

And before this gets misinterpreted, again, I don't mind people learning, I think that a nice person>20k dps any day, I'll gladly explain any fight/place to you and I'll be totally chill if you make a mistake because you're inexperienced with the fight/role/game or just have clumsy fingers. That's all good, but if you're just going to ignore any kind of instructions and not even going to admit your mistake but blame it on others, then that's not the "elitism" that's the problem here.

I think there is a problem with elitism at work here.
Many of the Leet players on here for example demand you be FOTM version of tank/healer/dps.
If you don't have this build you are just filthy casual and bad.
If you adopt a hybrid you are ridiculed.
So it has become "play how leet people want you to play"..rather than play as you want.

Point to note on my own build.
There was a hate thread by healers.
One of which was tornadoe NB running into blobs out of heal range.
Those standing In the red aside.....

My build is massive sustain that hits armour cap when cloaked and drops all aimed target locks and dots at the same time.
I don't need to leech heals etc.
I have plenty of stamina for dodge rolling the red and massive health regen to boot.
I can indefinitely cloak/tornado to hit as many targets as possible with my mobility and range.
This build is not a DPS build.
This build is not a Tank build.
This build is not a Healer build.
What I bring instead is a DOT that works and is up 100% with damage, poison, disease & bleeds all at once.
I am the background DoT that just destroys everything over time while the tank/healer/dps get on with their thing.
It is a self sustaining hybrid that requires no help from the play styles above.
All I require from the group is that they are there as a distraction to stop me being focused as I work away in the background.

There is no room for a hyrbid DoT build in the leet realm of FOTM archetype builds.
BUT the DoT builds can stack and do just as much damage using distraction, evasion and stealth for mitigation.
Killing the boss in a new record time isn't the be all and end all of combat.
Being the last person standing is IMO.

In 4 man dungeons a DoT build would probably be undesirable.
Against world Bosses with multiple adds that require many players.....applying constant DoTs on everything is invaluable IMO.
And if you don't like that playstyle...so what ?
Its the way I like to play.
Who says I have to play your way ?

themdogesbite

Hopefully the game can live up to this reward in the not so distant future, in its current state im honestly suprised that it managed to get MMO of the year when the average pingrate in PvP is 500.

ChuckyPayne

Congrats

"Long live Tamriel and ESO "

Really looking for the next years. Maybe 20 years (1 million reasons)

CapnPhoton

Anzriel wrote: »

CapnPhoton wrote: »

Vatter wrote: »

[snip]

- Worst lag in any game that is out there. I dare someone to post video of a game with worse lag.
- Terrible design decisions. I doubt anyone can deny 1.5 was as close to balance this game has seen.
- Bugs, bugs and more bugs. There are so many bugs that have been here since launch it makes me laugh.

[snip]

I like it. I don't have much lag even in Cyrodil raids with 4 groups of 20 ppl each, and I am on 3.25 mbps DSL. If you are getting it all the time, it's likely on your end. There are bugs, but they are few and not any more than any other game in its second year.

Pulling facts out of thin air is a specialty of many of the forum posters here. The only suggestion I can make sadly is to ignore them. The lag however in primetime on Azura's is quite real, it's not a connection thing, it has even been acknowledged by ZOS. The second part I agree with, there are bugs in every game, it's inevitable.

I've never played on Azura. Someone suggested it to me once but it was always full. It sounds like there is a specific issue with that server.

[edited to remove quote]

Huckdabuck

CapnPhoton wrote: »

Anzriel wrote: »

CapnPhoton wrote: »

Vatter wrote: »

[snip]

- Worst lag in any game that is out there. I dare someone to post video of a game with worse lag.
- Terrible design decisions. I doubt anyone can deny 1.5 was as close to balance this game has seen.
- Bugs, bugs and more bugs. There are so many bugs that have been here since launch it makes me laugh.

[snip]

I like it. I don't have much lag even in Cyrodil raids with 4 groups of 20 ppl each, and I am on 3.25 mbps DSL. If you are getting it all the time, it's likely on your end. There are bugs, but they are few and not any more than any other game in its second year.

Pulling facts out of thin air is a specialty of many of the forum posters here. The only suggestion I can make sadly is to ignore them. The lag however in primetime on Azura's is quite real, it's not a connection thing, it has even been acknowledged by ZOS. The second part I agree with, there are bugs in every game, it's inevitable.

I've never played on Azura. Someone suggested it to me once but it was always full. It sounds like there is a specific issue with that server.

Platform related......PC vs console. I believe y'all are just now starting to get a taste of the yuck on console that we've endured here over the past year and a half on PC.

[edited to remove quote]

Rohaus

Well deserved! I love the game so I am quite happy to see them get mmo of the year because I truly believe it's the best mmo on the market!

Jitterbug

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks, everyone! And thanks to each one of you for playing! This year has been really exciting, and we have so much more in store next year.

I don't understand that image in the slightest, but its randomness amuses me.

What's cooler than a gorilla and a shark high-fiving each other with explosions in the background?

Bumnog tea bagging pre nerf Doshia with the Rocky theme song playing.

Since you asked...

Uneed2Stop

Great job guys! You should reward all the loyal players that voted for you with a dueling system lol that would be perfect

Nykerius

Congratulations! This news (and a little word of mouth from a good friend of mine) convinced me to pick up the game today, after I was initially turned off by the pre-release beta tests and early reviews.

Stikato

ESO 2014 > ESO 2015

UltimaJoe777

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

What else it could be, there wasnt many MMO launched during 2015, but congratz anyway!

I had to laugh when the runner up was Wildstar and WOW isnt even listed. MMORPG.COM is a joke.

The real joke is how people can't realize that their opinion won't always agree with these kinds of sites, not to mention I know for a fact WoW doesn't even compete with ESO in the category ESO won this "award" in. And personally I've never even heard of Wildstar let alone know anything about it lol

Tower_Of_Shame wrote: »

kongkim wrote: »

Congrats, ZOS the game is getting better and better

We need the LoL button back !!!

This coming from the tower of shame

UrQuan

Magdalina wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Good joke...good joke man, almost believed you

I find it hilarious that someone who plays the game so hard core (and so consumed that he has to put his scores in his sig) will be the first to complain or troll. Way to go on making the argument that casuals make a better community!

lol very true. The vast majority of the people I'm friends with in-game are definitely casuals. The hard-core folks I've interacted with have, nearly without exception, been the worst complainers, whiners, and generally unfun people. Now obviously there are some exceptions to that, and there are hard-core folks out there who are just fine members of the community, but as a general rule casuals make a far, far better community.

I would just like to point out that's not entirely true. I'd say it's more of a person issue than hardcore/casual one. You can be pretty hardcore and still nice to new/learning people. And you can be a "casual" and a total jerk(this is absolutely not directed at you as you seem quite a nice person, judging by your posts on forums, but just personal experience from some in-game interaction). To be honest there's nothing that annoys me more than chosen "casual" people who think that "I'm casual" is an excuse to absolutely refuse to learn, ignore all mechanics/any kind of instructions, basically force the "more hardcore" folks to carry them all the way and complain about others if they die/wipe the group.

And before this gets misinterpreted, again, I don't mind people learning, I think that a nice person>20k dps any day, I'll gladly explain any fight/place to you and I'll be totally chill if you make a mistake because you're inexperienced with the fight/role/game or just have clumsy fingers. That's all good, but if you're just going to ignore any kind of instructions and not even going to admit your mistake but blame it on others, then that's not the "elitism" that's the problem here.

And to be clear, I don't really disagree with anything that you're saying here. That's why I said there are exceptions (although I probably over-emphasized the rarity of those exceptions).

What I think is really at play is that people with jerkish personalities are more likely to gravitate towards trying to play hard-core (because jerks like to feel superior to other people, and if they can play hard-core then they can feel like they're better than the filthy casuals who can't keep up with them). That doesn't mean that everyone who's a hard-core player is a jerk, and it doesn't mean that all jerks go towards the hard-core play style over the casual play style.

And I definitely agree with you on the point about some casual players using the casual label as an excuse to never learn, and to try to get other people to carry them through everything while whining. I've seen that happen. Not often, but I have seen it happen, and it's super irritating.

In general, though, I find that a hard-core player is much more likely to be a jerk and a toxic member of the community than a casual player is.

kevlarto_ESO

Congo rats and Happy Holiday's !!!!

Bebopgroove

Congratulations Zenimax I hope the game continues for years to come in the same way as WoW. Because it's always a fear of mine that it might end like so many mmo's before it :'(

FelixTheCatt

I can see it getting this category. For the faults it does have , it strives to offer up something different to the mmo universe. Hopefully we see a lot of improvements going forward with focus on fixing things as well as progressing with new content. Grats to ZoS on the recognition.

Volkodav

DaniAngione wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

This made me smile.I went for a look see and felt a kind of pride that it was number 1.
I can remember when it was that Morrowind was number 1 for RPGs. Now it's great grandchild is the best MMO.

Let's not forget that Oblivion was also game of its year, Skyrim was the game of its year...

I mean, seriously, is there any Elder Scrolls that isn't #1 at least once at any point of its life?

Never forget the others being top in their time! Though I was never fan of Oblivion myself. I beat it far too easily,and it felt rather small compared to it's relatives.

Morgnarak

good job and congrats. good luck heading into the new year.

terrordactyl1971

Corellon Thromorin wrote: »

I'm scared to imagine how the worst is then

Star Wars Galaxies was the worst I played

oxxalejandroxxo

Congratulations!!!!

Magdalina

UrQuan wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Good joke...good joke man, almost believed you

I find it hilarious that someone who plays the game so hard core (and so consumed that he has to put his scores in his sig) will be the first to complain or troll. Way to go on making the argument that casuals make a better community!

lol very true. The vast majority of the people I'm friends with in-game are definitely casuals. The hard-core folks I've interacted with have, nearly without exception, been the worst complainers, whiners, and generally unfun people. Now obviously there are some exceptions to that, and there are hard-core folks out there who are just fine members of the community, but as a general rule casuals make a far, far better community.

I would just like to point out that's not entirely true. I'd say it's more of a person issue than hardcore/casual one. You can be pretty hardcore and still nice to new/learning people. And you can be a "casual" and a total jerk(this is absolutely not directed at you as you seem quite a nice person, judging by your posts on forums, but just personal experience from some in-game interaction). To be honest there's nothing that annoys me more than chosen "casual" people who think that "I'm casual" is an excuse to absolutely refuse to learn, ignore all mechanics/any kind of instructions, basically force the "more hardcore" folks to carry them all the way and complain about others if they die/wipe the group.

And before this gets misinterpreted, again, I don't mind people learning, I think that a nice person>20k dps any day, I'll gladly explain any fight/place to you and I'll be totally chill if you make a mistake because you're inexperienced with the fight/role/game or just have clumsy fingers. That's all good, but if you're just going to ignore any kind of instructions and not even going to admit your mistake but blame it on others, then that's not the "elitism" that's the problem here.

And to be clear, I don't really disagree with anything that you're saying here. That's why I said there are exceptions (although I probably over-emphasized the rarity of those exceptions).

What I think is really at play is that people with jerkish personalities are more likely to gravitate towards trying to play hard-core (because jerks like to feel superior to other people, and if they can play hard-core then they can feel like they're better than the filthy casuals who can't keep up with them). That doesn't mean that everyone who's a hard-core player is a jerk, and it doesn't mean that all jerks go towards the hard-core play style over the casual play style.

And I definitely agree with you on the point about some casual players using the casual label as an excuse to never learn, and to try to get other people to carry them through everything while whining. I've seen that happen. Not often, but I have seen it happen, and it's super irritating.

In general, though, I find that a hard-core player is much more likely to be a jerk and a toxic member of the community than a casual player is.

@UrQuan, see, that's why I said you are a nice person :P That is fair enough, [snip]. Guess I just mostly revolve around...well you could say semi hardcore yet still nice crowd these days so I feel a need to chime in when I see people going on about "casual=nice&good, "hardcore"=mean&bad"

Also part of "hardcore-casual" conflict I guess can simply stem from different expectations within a pug where conditions of the run don't get discussed beforehand. "Hardcore" folks will rush through and expect everyone to keep up because they're just used to it, "casuals" may be used to taking more time, maybe still exploring the place on the way and they both just get frustrated with each other as their paces/styles don't match. Someone just has to be patient there I guess...or not pug

Anyway, just derailing the thread by now I guess, I'll stop xD

[edited for minor baiting]