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IN WROTHGAR WHY????

Sir_Xalvador
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When you are maxed out on all three crafting blacksmith, woodworking, and clothing, and you go to Wrothgar to get V15, V16, mats Rubedite Ingot, Rubedo Leather, Ancestor silk.
MY QUESTION IS ? Why Do I rarely find those mats, mostly I find voidstone nightwood and voidbloom V9 to V14 mats not V15,16 mats. I am lvl 50 on those 3 crafting and have taken every passive on those 3 I make v16 gear i should be finding Rubedite Ingot, Rubedo Leather, Ancestor silk. Nothing lower in my opinion??
Any Truthful Answer would be Nice...
  • dsalter
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    When you are maxed out on all three crafting blacksmith, woodworking, and clothing, and you go to Wrothgar to get V15, V16, mats Rubedite Ingot, Rubedo Leather, Ancestor silk.
    MY QUESTION IS ? Why Do I rarely find those mats, mostly I find voidstone nightwood and voidbloom V9 to V14 mats not V15,16 mats. I am lvl 50 on those 3 crafting and have taken every passive on those 3 I make v16 gear i should be finding Rubedite Ingot, Rubedo Leather, Ancestor silk. Nothing lower in my opinion??
    Any Truthful Answer would be Nice...

    because they are "rare" basically they do this so the market doesnt flood hard with mats
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  • Nestor
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    The ratio for a node to spawn the new mats vs the old is 4:1 approximately or a 25% chance looking at it in another way.

    Not sure why there is a mix myself, unless they really want people to grind for VR16 gear. My VR16s are all using VR15 gear because of this.
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  • Qyrk
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    These max tier mats are random and are not always spawning in Orsinium (rather nodes of tier below it). But from experience, the nodes are common than what I thought it would be. The nodes are fine as is and I have no problem harvesting rubedite ore and ancient silk. The only thing I would suggest to ZOS is to increase the rubedo leather scraps. If you are heavily depending on harvesting nodes to get these, then you're making it harder for yourself. Kill stuff and decon the loot. I get mostly 60-70% of my mats from deconning, and harvesting is only supplemental.
    Edited by Qyrk on December 2, 2015 11:23PM
  • Nestor
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    Qyrk wrote: »
    Kill stuff and decon the loot.

    This seems to be the most efficient way. But, we only get one mat per decon of mob loot, so it's not as good as gear tiered below it.

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  • code65536
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    It's intentionally rare. You may recall that on the PTS forum, one of the questions that ZOS asked was, "Do Veteran Rank 15 and above materials still feel rare?" Implying that they never intended for Wrothgar to dilute the rarity of this mat tier.
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  • JD2013
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    I agree that the mats are quite low, but yesterday I randomly found a bunch of Ancestor Silk and Ruby Wood.

    Crafting dailies help too, as you have a good chance to get a survey, which can drop (for me) around 35ish of each raw mat.
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  • Shadowstep2003
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    I'm not 16 yet but can't you steal random armor and decon it?
  • eNumbra
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    I'm not 16 yet but can't you steal random armor and decon it?

    Stuff you steal is still V14 and decons for VoidX.
  • mtwiggz
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    Nestor wrote: »
    The ratio for a node to spawn the new mats vs the old is 4:1 approximately or a 25% chance looking at it in another way.

    Not sure why there is a mix myself, unless they really want people to grind for VR16 gear. My VR16s are all using VR15 gear because of this.

    4:1 ratio? Is this a ZoS confirmed fact? I can tell you from my own personal findings I am nearly a 12:1 ratio at this point. By the time I have 200 void bloom I am lucky to have 15-20 ancestor silk. This is with the CP buff and maxed crafting. If this ratio is confirmed I can also confirm that my character has been cursed by the RNG gods.
    Edited by mtwiggz on December 3, 2015 2:10AM
  • eNumbra
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    mtwiggz wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    The ratio for a node to spawn the new mats vs the old is 4:1 approximately or a 25% chance looking at it in another way.

    Not sure why there is a mix myself, unless they really want people to grind for VR16 gear. My VR16s are all using VR15 gear because of this.

    4:1 ratio? Is this a ZoS confirmed fact? I can tell you from my own personal findings I am nearly a 12:1 ratio at this point. By the time I have 200 void bloom I am lucky to have 15-20 ancestor silk. This is with the CP buff and maxed crafting. If this ratio is confirmed I can also confirm that my character has been cursed by the RNG gods.

    Just because they spawn at a 4:1 ratio doesn't mean you're going to find them at a 4:1 ratio.
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    The v15 nodes are rare, but not impossible to find. I have enough of the new mats to have crafted v16 armor, do writs, and sell surplus for profit. I think the rarity is just right. It means you have to earn v16 equipment, not just spend a few hours farming to make it. It makes higher level crafters more valuable to the community, instead of every Tom *** and Harry having the ability to craft everything.
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  • Calippe_Hac
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    When you are maxed out on all three crafting blacksmith, woodworking, and clothing, and you go to Wrothgar to get V15, V16, mats Rubedite Ingot, Rubedo Leather, Ancestor silk.
    MY QUESTION IS ? Why Do I rarely find those mats, mostly I find voidstone nightwood and voidbloom V9 to V14 mats not V15,16 mats. I am lvl 50 on those 3 crafting and have taken every passive on those 3 I make v16 gear i should be finding Rubedite Ingot, Rubedo Leather, Ancestor silk. Nothing lower in my opinion??
    Any Truthful Answer would be Nice...

    As said above they are rare and you should check the survey maps that you get. A lot is just farming and the luck of the draw.

  • Artjuh90
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    eNumbra wrote: »
    mtwiggz wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    The ratio for a node to spawn the new mats vs the old is 4:1 approximately or a 25% chance looking at it in another way.

    Not sure why there is a mix myself, unless they really want people to grind for VR16 gear. My VR16s are all using VR15 gear because of this.

    4:1 ratio? Is this a ZoS confirmed fact? I can tell you from my own personal findings I am nearly a 12:1 ratio at this point. By the time I have 200 void bloom I am lucky to have 15-20 ancestor silk. This is with the CP buff and maxed crafting. If this ratio is confirmed I can also confirm that my character has been cursed by the RNG gods.

    Just because they spawn at a 4:1 ratio doesn't mean you're going to find them at a 4:1 ratio.

    that is actually exactly how it works with larger numbers LOL
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    It doesn't seem to work out as bad as it sounds.
    I have 2 V16s geared in light so far and well into the stockpile for my next one and I'm not farming for it, just keeping my eyes open while my guys run through the zone doing stuff.

    Just be prepared for a lot of getting faked out by butterflies and Emetic Russula.

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  • eNumbra
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    eNumbra wrote: »
    mtwiggz wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    The ratio for a node to spawn the new mats vs the old is 4:1 approximately or a 25% chance looking at it in another way.

    Not sure why there is a mix myself, unless they really want people to grind for VR16 gear. My VR16s are all using VR15 gear because of this.

    4:1 ratio? Is this a ZoS confirmed fact? I can tell you from my own personal findings I am nearly a 12:1 ratio at this point. By the time I have 200 void bloom I am lucky to have 15-20 ancestor silk. This is with the CP buff and maxed crafting. If this ratio is confirmed I can also confirm that my character has been cursed by the RNG gods.

    Just because they spawn at a 4:1 ratio doesn't mean you're going to find them at a 4:1 ratio.

    that is actually exactly how it works with larger numbers LOL
    Except when there are other people around gathering the same nodes.

    If they gather V15/16 and leave everything else, you're going to get skewed numbers.
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