If you had to pick a healer for a group be it PVP or PVE which would you take.

Reznique

Templar.. Because Thats what they are here for in this game.

No other class can compete in healing unlike dd or tanking and other classes are usually just left with a resto bar which is not as near is good as Templar class skills. I have kicked 70%+ of non Templar healers even from daily key challenges.

a.skelton92 wrote: »

Darkeus wrote: »

isnt clear this game has only 1 healer? and thats templar! there are no other choices

The game you THINK your playing does not exist.

Can say the same to you mister. If you played this game past level 50 you should probably understand how this game works and that ESO does not actually work with the 'play however you want' concept unless you are a roleplaying fisherman.

GuyNamedSean

Night Blade and here is why.

Just so I can have my four man dungeoning group of all Nightblades.

Jumper45

Sadly we dont get a parse for PS4 But from what I hear from PC Nightblade and Templar can get pretty close in HPS terms.

But the skill difference required to keep NB at that amount is insanely hard vs Templar lol. Sorc falling behind NB and DK being the last. Assuming were just talking about raw HPS. One thing I realized healing on my templar alot of their HPS goes into Overhealing. ( AKA BOL hitting 2 other targets that are already full) Same can be said about NB as hots are ticking on full hp people. That is a good thing though that means you are above the soft cap for HPS for both. For Example Templar can heal a target for 12k on main target and 6k on 2 others NB is doing 9k on all 4 targets. Just example numbers. Healing ward being the clutch heal for both in equal amounts. Granted Templar can use some Hots as well. They get 3. The question at that point is Skill slot aval and resource management. DO you have enough magicka to cast hots and spam BOL? So while Templar can reach a higher cap the question would be is it all just going into overhealing? If thats the case then you are really doing nothing heh

Vyle_Byte

Darkeus wrote: »

ofc it does, and if you imagine a dk can even compare to templar in healing then kill yourself.

I'm thinking that was not only unnecessary but completely out of line.

willymchilybily

Templar and here is why.

People mention spear shards for tank or stam DPS, and repentance buffs, but that's almost nothing compared to the actual classes healing capability compared to other classes.

Rite of passage morphs. Dedicated healing ultimate with big heals, without using magicka (potential 6 seconds of magicka regen whilst you heal).

And then the burst heals the templar class has on top. its a whole different league. Even the first heal breath of life is a burst heal with 28m range on radial proximity to caster, that means you can have 2 guys 50 m apart from eachother and you in the middlle healing them both and yourself. The healing staff's burst heal blessing of protection is 20m range and directional. it just doesnt compare.

I haven't experience many PvE group dungeons but dont think there is many/any skills that can pump out templar's kind of burst healing ideal for topping up what the hots cant during say Poison Phase of Engine Guardian boss fight. etc.

DenniMyuu

Templar and here is why.

Breath of Life - huuuuge heal.
Repentance - supporting Stamina builds in your group
Blazing Spear - gives Stamina back and stuns an enemy, also does some decent DPS if spammed :P
Cleansing Ritual - removes DoTs

Though other classes are probably good at healing aswell if built right. I just wouldn't go for it.

Jumper45

willymchilybily wrote: »

People mention spear shards for tank or stam DPS, and repentance buffs, but that's almost nothing compared to the actual classes healing capability compared to other classes.

Rite of passage morphs. Dedicated healing ultimate with big heals, without using magicka (potential 6 seconds of magicka regen whilst you heal).

And then the burst heals the templar class has on top. its a whole different league. Even the first heal breath of life is a burst heal with 28m range on radial proximity to caster, that means you can have 2 guys 50 m apart from eachother and you in the middlle healing them both and yourself. The healing staff's burst heal blessing of protection is 20m range and directional. it just doesnt compare.

I haven't experience many PvE group dungeons but dont think there is many/any skills that can pump out templar's kind of burst healing ideal for topping up what the hots cant during say Poison Phase of Engine Guardian boss fight. etc.

Having played NB/Sorc/Templar healer ( not DK ) ill put Sorc and DK on the back burner in terms of HPS. But during poison phase for both NB and Templar I honestly found NB to be easier to do it then Templar. Stacking up Strife,Path,RR Pretty much covered 80% of the damage it was doing on all 4 of us. Ill healing when we got low enough to justify its use So literally had to nothing once the phase started lol.. True all I need to do on templar is use ultimate heal. But at the same time having to rely on ultimates for a phase is bad practice imho. If you can do it through normal healing you should and a BOL spam during that would drain u empty. Not to mention NB gets a good ultimate heal as well. Doing slightly less then Templar but they dont have to stand in place for it. Think templars ultimate only outdoes everyone elses because it gets a +30% healing boost while the others do not. But NB's Ultimate heal is only a small step behind. I perfer not being forced to stand still in red circles. Like fire phase.
But -Shrug- You can always just hit your ultimate on Templar and bypass the phase lol. I use Warhorn though for the buff on my templar/Night blade. I rarly use any healing ultimates or even need to. The horn does boost your own HPS though so I suppose that counts.

Speaking in normal terms not geared out or anything for trails. In that case neither class would have an issue doing it.

eliisra

Templar and here is why.

The "no stamina recovery while blocking" really screwed over other healers.

It's not so much the healing that makes templar superior right now, it's Repentance + Spear Shards.

Unless you have a tank with extremely good stamina management (usually a well played DK), other class healers can be troublesome in harder dungeons. Adds extra layers of pressure and difficulty on the tank.

Really wish they introduced a non-class support skill that helped with stamina management. Seriously, why not? There's already 3 different support skills in the game that helps with magicka management.

Gern_Verkheart

Templar and here is why.

Do I really need to say why? Templar is the strongest healer, hands down.

RAGUNAnoOne

I am a NB healer as long as other people know what they are doing you may be better than a Templar. the tough part is that many people do things like stand in stupid ect...

Armitas

Templar and here is why.

BOL. When the group gets spiked I can cast healing ward 3x and a few more times because some of them will inevitably lose their bubble before it can heal...or I can just hit BOL and be done with it.

Vangy

Templar and here is why.

Shards shards and shards once again. Turns an average tank into a beast mode perma block monster. Plus repentance minimises downtime between add pulls as well as turns annoying bosses who spawn a gazillion adds into ez mode spin2win spam fest with no worries about stamina regen. I love templar healers. Come to me my lovelies. Vangy will always invite u to his group. Vangy will keep you safe from those pesky nightblades. Muacks

Also my dk dreams about Templars throwing him shards non stop and that zos decides to remove the synergy use cooldown of 20s so I can hit x 24/7. Sweet sweet stamina-gasm.

13igTyme

Night Blade and here is why.

NB, because reasons.

PhatGrimReaper

Templar and here is why.

Dark Flare hasn't had a mention yet - Great skill in PVP.. minor sorcery for the group, big damage on a single target and a AoE healing debuff that hits enemies around the target. The cast time sucks, but it hits like a truck and that debuff is a handheld meatbag.....

And Shards, Repentance, Purifying Ritual, Nova, channelled focus aaannnddd BoL.... nothing like breathing your tank from 1 hp to full hp with the press of a button(PVE)..... oh Don't forget the fast reses too, this rocks in PVE & PVP.

Now I have nothing against other classes healing, in fact I ran my DK as a healer for a while and it was great... Igneous Shield +30% healing with Quick siphon is pretty cool - more dps from group = more heals to group. Sorcs have greater access to magicka than anyone else & higher spell damage - BIG springs - and the damage+heals synergy of the NB is just awesome.

All classes can heal in a good group or manageable situation, but when things get knarly and everyone's outta stam and almost toast.... hit that juicer (repentance) and everything's okay again.

Ffastyl

Templar and here is why.

On top of Breath of Life in addition to Restoration Staff skills, Templar healers are heavy in Magicka so their spells hit hard too. When the party is doing fine on HP (I off-heal as a Templar tank) a Templar healer will start casting Radiant Destruction or some other class spell to deal as much damage as any DPS.

Zlater

Templar and here is why.

If I'm just thinking of myself the only thing I really want when tanking is some magicka, and there is no other class that can manage a groups magicka like a sorc. So sorc.

Buuuutttt... Healers aren't there for the tank, they are there mostly to keep the DD's alive and DPSing. When it comes down to it the only things that matter are Siphon spirit and Elemental drain for the magicka DD's, Shards and Repentance for the stam DD's and BoL or Healing ward for the heals. DK's are better at utility buffs, Sorcs are better for magicka management and Dps and NB's have better damage reduction. Except for these individual areas Temps win by a long shot.

Jumper45

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

Dark Flare hasn't had a mention yet - Great skill in PVP.. minor sorcery for the group, big damage on a single target and a AoE healing debuff that hits enemies around the target. The cast time sucks, but it hits like a truck and that debuff is a handheld meatbag.....

And Shards, Repentance, Purifying Ritual, Nova, channelled focus aaannnddd BoL.... nothing like breathing your tank from 1 hp to full hp with the press of a button(PVE)..... oh Don't forget the fast reses too, this rocks in PVE & PVP.

Now I have nothing against other classes healing, in fact I ran my DK as a healer for a while and it was great... Igneous Shield +30% healing with Quick siphon is pretty cool - more dps from group = more heals to group. Sorcs have greater access to magicka than anyone else & higher spell damage - BIG springs - and the damage+heals synergy of the NB is just awesome.

All classes can heal in a good group or manageable situation, but when things get knarly and everyone's outta stam and almost toast.... hit that juicer (repentance) and everything's okay again.

Dark flare has indeed not been mentioned. It is very nice for PVP OR PVE. If you get the cyrodiils light armor set ( sadly its capped at VR6 currently but the set 5 bonus is too great to pass up imho) you'll take 25% less damage while casting dark flare,radiant,lingering ritual which makes the cast time worth it.

My current templar build is a VR9 Healer. Cyrodiils Light set for the 25% damage reduce. Undeath passive 33% or w/e it is now damage reduce. Ontop of that I have bonus to healing from Mending 10%,Focused Healing 30%,Restoration Expert 15%, Ritual Mundus for 10%. Also 30% more from ritual on self only. +30% from Scourge Harvester Monster helm/shoulder.

Its great for pvp the bonus healing covers what ever the debuff is in pvp and with the damage reduce i can cast ritual ( albeit getting intrupted as well but i always get some through) generally dont die very easy or at all ill get lowish hp then bounce back up when all the mitigation kicks in.

Ill switch out scourger during PVE for something to help the group or Maw for extra DPS. ( Maw is very good for templar healers as they are generally using heavy attacks anyways for magicka 24/7) Can keep maw going 24/7. Or guardian if your lucky enough.

That being said as far as shards. Personally I dont know. It is helpful but honestly if you wanna do things right there really isnt any room to put shards. You can switch out a single skill slot on main bar for it but you'll be tossing out something like Purifying Light. If you dont understand how purifying light works currently i can understand how you would think w/e about it. But you can cast it on several mobs at once there is no cap. So if every mob is AOE healing 1-2k every second on say a group of 6 adds well the healing adds up very fast while casting BOLs. Not to mention it also does good damage. So while you would be giving less stamina to dps and tanking. You'll be getting a ton of HPS and DPS to cover what ever the lack of stamina offers. Also the spell power buff to the group.

I dont think ive ever run into a tank that depended on shards and whats the point of giving a dps stamina boost when im putting 10-15k on every mob in sight with purifying light.

EDIT: Also the damage reduce for rezzing someone ontop of undeath etc.

Tors

Templar and here is why.

BOL ftw,


I dont care what anyone says about sorcs etc

Nothing beats a Templar being able to spam a heal that can heal 3 of 4 players to max instantly.

With animation canceling it can be spammed 3 times in 2 seconds.

With the levels of magika regen availiable to a player who trys hard, you can get a Templar with less spell power affectly being able to spamm a heal that heals people for 50% their health throughout the fight.

Get good enough gear and you can dump the silly heal stick take sword and board and become a tank healer, not caring about DPS against the healer too much and still healing the team without any "twitchy" moments. (no real HOTs with this though, so some CC against the Templar can ruin your teams day)

Baconlad

Hey I don't know how to post a vote...but templar for pve/ pvp. All the same abilities plus a few more. Actually my favorite pvp build is centered around a tank/ healer. Ritual of rebirth. One templar heal tank using ritual of rebirth per twelve players. It's centered around "burst" concept. Have two healing springs light armor spammers off to the sides, and one tank in the middle of the raid group spamming ritual of rebirth, must have decent stamina recovery and break free reduction. Also must use immovable. You don't die cause you're a mitigation freak, and you're rarely stunned due to ritual of rebirth, have BoL on bar for high movement phases, and RoR for somewhat slow, stagnant phases. It's a blast. And it works two sustained healers and one MASSIVE burst healer in the middle....beat that nightblades or sorcs.