The Potential of this Game is just Not Enough Anymore

Ishammael

Joy_Division wrote: »

Once CU comes out, I am gone. And, no, you can't have my stuff.

CU enters beta in the Feb/Mar timeslot. I'll be there.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

Ishammael wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Once CU comes out, I am gone. And, no, you can't have my stuff.

CU enters beta in the Feb/Mar timeslot. I'll be there.

Quite a few will be there.

Farorin

I canceled my subscription after I realized ZOS no longer give a damn about PVP players when they released their idea of "PVP content" which as it turns out, was just a PVE fest with PVP enabled.

I am very disappointed as I had high hopes. The game used to have potential, but they are wrecking it further and breaking it more with every update, thus burying the potential further and further as they move further away from the things that used to make this game good.

Farorin

Manoekin wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Check thread.
See ZOS icon.
Realize it's probably just another copypaste 'warning'.
Thread delivers.

I think they do that just to troll us.

It freakin' works, it annoys me to no end.

"Surely THIS time the ZOS sign will be some actual input or recognition of the discussion"
BAM! Nope, just a copy past useless response.

ChefZero

At the beginning of the beta, they promised that 2000 players per faction can play on a campaign. Or 2000 per campaign? I do not give a ***

Armitas

Ezareth wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

In my Greek yogurt filled world we have something called disrespect and on the other side of the spectrum something called constructive criticism.

We've had 2 years of this man. We tried respect. We tried patience. We tried pretty much everything under the sun to get ZoS to start communicating more with us. Constructive criticism failed, and disrespect is the natural human response to being ignored.

A year into the game the toxicity was getting bad. I was still a "Fan boy" then with hope and offered all sorts of constructive criticism and feedback.

Yep. I was the same way, I lasted for over a year and then it got real bad in 1.6. I had to take a month off from the game to keep myself from rage quitting and getting rage banned on the forums. It helped, but it didn't last and now I'm in the same situation trying not to be toxic, hyper editing, and struggling to remain constructive.

That whole clamp down so the dev's can come on here and speak reminds me of the old saying. "The beatings will continue until moral improves". It's only going to get more toxic from here on out as you continue to not communicate or do anything about the problems in the game on a bi-yearly basis. The only way the forums become less toxic is if you start communicating in it. That is how this forums gets better, and that is how this game gets better.

Armitas

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

At this point, people like @Publius_Scipio just keep the disagreement going for the sake of keeping the disagreement going.

Man so many of you here are so ridiculous. I can only just let my posts stand. Keep being angry at the video game company guys.

You talk as if them being a video game company makes any difference. They are still a company, a business, they still take our money. Them being a "video game company" doesn't make them any less responsible for what they do and say, or in the case of ZOS, what they don't do and don't say. They can't keep giving us the cold shoulder and ignoring so many of the games issues and not expect any kind of backlash, and neither can you.

I won't speak for ZOS or anyone else. My words are my own. You and the rest of the circus keep complaining, many (not all) post disrespectful comments directed at the devs. Yet you haven't left. You say the restaurant has terrible food and terrible service, management is incompetent, yet every week you have a reservation and you sit and eat there. Yeah.... It's exactly like that.

If I was so displeased with a restaurant and kept coming back for more, do you know what they would call me? A f[snip]ing idiot.

The structure of the analogy is accurate but the conclusion is wrong. People are still sitting at the restaurant because the other restaurants are still under construction. People have to eat, and if there is only 1 restaurant in town they will eat there no matter how bad the food is. That is not the case when there is competition.

Armitas

Joy_Division wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

You know, I leisurely read over this thread, more of a skimming than actual word for word. And there are a few posts here that if I wanted to I'd probably whip up one of my famous posts and rip it to the heavens. But I will not be doing that this morning here, here in NYC home of the NY Mets.

You guys, along with many of your former compadres were saying ESO was on it's death bed back in something like August 2014, and ESO had only officially launched in April of that year. We here in the alliance war subforum are in a vacuum. We see things strictly through myopic eyes of PvP (which now I am officially declaring player vs. player means player vs. Publius). I would venture to say that the PvE aspect of ESO is pretty healthy and providing those that love Elder Scrolls and PvE a satisfactory experience. I am here because way back when (back when my biceps were smaller) a game called Morrowind on Xbox blew my mind. I enjoy PvE as well and from what I see from the Orsinium marketing material that zone really has the scope and feel of Elder Scrolls. In my preliminary opinion, blows all the previous zones away. Just imagine ZOS improving on that and one day (hopefully soon) allowing us to return to Vvardenfell.

So I would really need more evidence on the whole "ESO is dying", "ESO is dead".

Further, all that talk about ZOS is stupid, Rich Lambert doesn't care, Brian Wheeler doesn't understand what PvPers want, etc, is completely ludicrous and pure poppycock. To blanket ZOS with statements like that when all the facts, their internal company discussions, etc etc etc, are not known is pure lunacy. And quite frankly the sign of a stereotypical video game whining sissy. If you don't like what you see, walk away. You been sitting here for over a year and a half talking about game death and leaving yet you are still here. The players that have actually left the game by now and were brining up the same gripes as you have more guts than you. I would even venture to say that pushing aside all the whining, you are still here because you enjoy playing ESO.

And just so you know, Julian Edelman feels the same way I do about all of this. Ask him.

A lot of you should take a page out of Sypher, King Richard, Lefty Lucy (even though he is obsessed with being drunk it seems), and FENGRUSH's book. They discuss the game and what they would like changed, but they don't disrespect ZOS. Think about it! Sypher is what? 19 or 20 years old? Can't even legally consume alcohol and he shows more respect than many of you "adults" here.

Many of you have greatly disappointed me.... Especially Jules and her Haxus Pound Puppies army....

These people you speak so highly of, the big streamers and youtubers, any public figure, or game celebrity if you will. Just because they don't say anything negative about ZOS in public doesn't mean they don't say it. I've talked to several big ESO names, both past and present, and they all agree that ZOS could and should be doing alot better with their game. But they won't say it outloud, that would be stupid to do so and they know it. They've got too much to gain personally and badmouthing ZOS would be a big step back for them and all the people that follow them on twitch, youtube, twitter or w/e.

Example, imagine if somebody like Sypher quit the game, badmouthing ZOS on his way out, do you have any idea how many paying people would follow suit and quit also? Guys like Sypher are why this game still has a decent size playerbase. But that doesn't mean they don't talk about ZOS behind closed doors.

There ARE major issues with this game and it's developers, issues that NEED to be addressed if this game is going to survive the next wave of big MMO's.

Respect is not tied to any streaming or anything else. You either show it or you don't. You don't like ESO you go. You like ESO you stay. You don't like ESO, stay, and disrespect the devs.... Clown status.

Respect is earned, not given. I've shown plenty respect to this game and ZOS, and I still do somewhat. But that respect and patience with them is slowly but surely dwindling.

As for clown status...pretty sure that rank belongs to you with all your sh*tty bicep and greek yogurt jokes.

GIVE RESPECT GET RESPECT. And the devs haven't disrespected any of us.

And who said anything about biceps and greek yogurt being jokes?

To me this is disrespectful: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/88049/do-you-think-there-should-be-an-aoe-cap/p1

87% of customers say "We don't want this," yet ZoS says "No."

A mod voted in the poll? what the heck?
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That reminds me of the blocking nerf. They said they were torn because 50% wanted it and 50% didn't, so they considered that because 50% wanted it, it's a success. That is terrible to think that making exactly half of your player base angry and half of your player base pleased a success. Respectfully, it is a specious statement that because of our volatile and disagreeing nature that 50% must be a success because we are incapable of producing a better result. I mean look at the poll 3k to 500, we can actually agree on things. We can do better than only pleasing half the player base. Not just "can" we must do better than that.

You guys didn't even try to make it more appetizing, and we all know why, because the fate of that pts was decided 4 months before it was open and none of the people that would ultimately have to deal with the consequences were allowed to give any feedback because they didn't know it was coming. Even though we have this developer discussion section, with no developers on it, and hasn't been used for anything major in a long time. We all know our place on PTS, we are there as the last stop on that train to identify any major bugs and our feedback is wasted on def ears with the exception of what Rich and Gina read and choose to relay to the team involved. The big question is why are those involved with the changes in an update not checking to see the feedback of that update themselves?

Corellon Thromorin

It feels like ESO is getting more and more generic with each update.

Darnathian

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

At this point, people like @Publius_Scipio just keep the disagreement going for the sake of keeping the disagreement going.

Man so many of you here are so ridiculous. I can only just let my posts stand. Keep being angry at the video game company guys.

Then voicing their displeasure with the company taking their money and not fulfilling promises is rediculous but not the guy that talks about biceps and yogurt in every post? Ya bud you just lost all credibility.

ZOS_Racheal

Hello, everyone.

Due to repeatedly disruptive behavior in this thread, we are going to close it. We understand that people will disagree from time to time, but rude and bashing comments are not acceptable on the ESOTU forums. We welcome constructive feedback and encourage everyone to take a few minutes and read our Code of Conduct before posting. It outlines the guidelines and expected conduct on our forums.