Urfon the unkillable

anitajoneb17_ESO

I finished the main quest of Orsinium last week on PTS with a template character not even ideally geared and can't remember of any boss being even particularly difficult to fight... and I'm by all means no Fengrush or even remotely "good" player. Just fairly normal.
I don't see what your problem is here guys.

Dymence

AngryNord wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

For the love of god please don't make everything easy, it's about time we had some decent hard content.

No-one's asking to make it easy, just to make it non-impossible.

I really, really doubt it's as hard as you're making it out to seem.

Do you have any self healing / shields?

Yes. And this game has something called cooldowns. Meaning you can''t self-heal fast enough to cover the damage the boss does.

Cooldowns? What the hell are you talking about?

anitajoneb17_ESO

ItsRejectz wrote: »

For the love of god please don't make everything easy, it's about time we had some decent hard content.

But there's nothing hard, really ! I can't figure out what they're talking about. At best, every now and then you have to be careful what you're doing and concentrate on what's happening on the screen, but that's all really...
Did it with a magicka sorc DPS (using shields when necessary), maybe it's less convenient for other classes or some particular builds ?

Sharee

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

I think that before anyone says anything is to hard and be taken seriously they should have to post there build.

It's not Ibomez the Flesh Sculptor. It's a solo storyline quest boss. If anything in the game should be friendly to the weird, fun, but utterly non-optimized builds that casual players come up, it is solo storyline content. I don't want them balancing solo storyline content around theorycrafted builds.

It's not about super-efficient theorycrafted builds. It is about simple counters.

Take your typical boss that spawns waves of adds. If you try to fight it with a singletarget build that has no AOE damage and no self-heal, you are going to have a hard time with that encounter. But try to do it with a sap essence NB or a jabs templar, and it's trivial because all the adds do is supply you with more self-healing. The NB and templar are not some theorycrafted builds, they just slotted a skill to counter the boss mechanic efficiently.

Now imagine that ZOS would tune this encounter so that it would be easily doable without aoe or selfheals. The NB and templar from above could then do it with both hands tied behind their back, and would rightfully complain that the boss is faceroll-boring easy.

As long as there is such a wide range of builds, some very good and some very bad at the task, you simply cannot balance the content for the worst build possible, you have to balance for 'middle of the road' which means the worst builds will find the encounter difficult. It's unavoidable.

AngryNord

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I finished the main quest of Orsinium last week on PTS with a template character not even ideally geared and can't remember of any boss being even particularly difficult to fight... and I'm by all means no Fengrush or even remotely "good" player. Just fairly normal.
I don't see what your problem is here guys.

good for you then

Birdovic

I didnt do Story Quests yet to not screw The experience Even before its released.
But you Seem like The only one to complain so far
Change your Build / try Something Different, wont be so hard

AngryNord

[quote="andypappb16_ESO;2367431"Change your Build / try Something Different[/quote]

What happened to "play as you want"?

KerinKor

ItsRejectz wrote: »

For the love of god please don't make everything easy, it's about time we had some decent hard content.

Such content belongs in group-or-die dungeons which is probably waht you like playing, it does NOT belong in SOLO-by-design overworld content.

WillhelmBlack

I take it the OP has completed Maelstrom Arena on Vet mode that IS labeled as and IS a solo instance? If so then possibly ZOS should take a look at this quest boss. Not that you couldn't ask for help from another player or am I wrong?

I also presume the OP has tried changing his stats and armour but still has had no success? I.e tried switching to heavy?

byrom101b16_ESO

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Lord FENGRUSH defeated Urfon Iceheart in battle with a fatal uppercut that could be heard throughout all of Orsinium.

Not that's not right, he paid all the Skalds to say that and actually wiped a couple of times when no-one was looking... the echoing noise of that 'blow' was his ass hitting the floor... :P

AngryNord

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

I take it the OP has completed Maelstrom Arena on Vet mode that IS labeled as and IS a solo instance? If so then possibly ZOS should take a look at this quest boss. Not that you couldn't ask for help from another player or am I wrong?

So a MAIN QUEST dungeon that you HAVE to complete in order to advance the game's story, should be comparable in difficulty to an OPTIONAL, HARD-MODE Arena?? ROFLPIMP. Sadly this says so much about the pricks that frequent this game and these forums....
For the record - I was wearing full heavy armour, with about 23K totalt health.

byrom101b16_ESO

AngryNord wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

I take it the OP has completed Maelstrom Arena on Vet mode that IS labeled as and IS a solo instance? If so then possibly ZOS should take a look at this quest boss. Not that you couldn't ask for help from another player or am I wrong?

So a MAIN QUEST dungeon that you HAVE to complete in order to advance the game's story, should be comparable in difficulty to an OPTIONAL, HARD-MODE Arena?? ROFLPIMP. Sadly this says so much about the pricks that frequent this game and these forums....
For the record - I was wearing full heavy armour, with about 23K totalt health.

Yeah I just love the 'I live and eat at my computer playing ESO' crowd coming onto forums saying how easy everything is in order to keep something in the game as a source of exclusive epeen to buff their virtual egos with.

"Frack your fun, I'm better than you and can prove it!" *clicks title and t-bags corpse*.

It's transparent self-interest, but at least it gives 'em something to achieve to make up for their lack of time offline to make any difference in real life.

There are of course there may be the odd exceptions to this - people who do have jobs and real lives who are the best players (at least one hopes there is...), but some of them seem to crow online about 'world firsts' and all that playground boasting routine too.

The most idiotic claim though is that something hard and challenging is 'easy', and by association to that observation, everyone else who can't get it done, or done as fast is somehow deficient.

Couple that with the fallacy of 'time played/day = skillz' and the odiousness of such posts knows no end in the forums.

Sharee

AngryNord wrote: »

For the record - I was wearing full heavy armour, with about 23K totalt health.

The health seems a bit high. Are you using food? If so i suggest using drinks. Heavy armor works nicely with high regen stats(especially health recovery)

This i my heavy armor orc DK who has little trouble doing any solo PvE content:



The regens are with GDB running, and using a purple v15 drink. Getting healed for 15% of your HP every 2 seconds rocks for PvE.

WillhelmBlack

You two sound like those eat breathe ESO guys, honestly. FYI I have a fiancé, a little boy and I work 60 hrs a week. Ask any of my guildies how many times I log on.

Yes I've played since beta as have most that have stuck around this long. I've seen all the nerfs, know all the sets, know all the classes and skills. I learned them all with ease so I'd call myself casual but experienced. A prick maybe but for the love of Mara please shut up and stop ruining PvE difficulty, some of us like a challenge. I'm not bringing up Gutstripper...

AngryNord

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

some of us like a challenge.

Maelstrom Arena.
Not in a MAIN QUEST that you HAVE to do to get the achievment for the zone.

WillhelmBlack

AngryNord wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

some of us like a challenge.

Maelstrom Arena.
Not in a MAIN QUEST that you HAVE to do to get the achievment for the zone.

Ask for help, you're in Beta so not many other players around so might be difficult to stumble up on one.

I am right in thinking this isn't a solo instance aren't i?

AngryNord

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

I am right in thinking this isn't a solo instance aren't i?

After quitting and relogging, my character had to fight his way back all through the Briarheart fortress, and enter the chamber of Urfon again, so it seems you're wrong.

Enodoc

It was difficult, but not impossible, for me on a battle-levelled Level 35 template (thus, not my usual build but a close approximation). I died three times and it took about 30 minutes from the first attempt. The ice archers are definitely what makes this hard; perhaps their respawn frequency could be toned down a bit. I'll have another go soon with my copied VR2 and see how that goes.

WillhelmBlack

AngryNord wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

I am right in thinking this isn't a solo instance aren't i?

After quitting and relogging, my character had to fight his way back all through the Briarheart fortress, and enter the chamber of Urfon again, so it seems you're wrong.

All I would say then is grind mats and gear up better then, don't ask for nerfs so early on. Get your Undaunted passives and go 5/1/1 instead of 7 heavy.

Dymence

AngryNord wrote: »

andypappb16_ESO wrote: »

Change your Build / try Something Different

What happened to "play as you want"?

Play as you want never meant play as you want and succeed in every encounter.

You have an arsenal of skills at your disposal - switch them around to suit the encounter.

Plain stubbornness should not be rewarded with content adjustments.

AngryNord

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

I am right in thinking this isn't a solo instance aren't i?

After quitting and relogging, my character had to fight his way back all through the Briarheart fortress, and enter the chamber of Urfon again, so it seems you're wrong.

All I would say then is grind mats and gear up better then, don't ask for nerfs so early on. Get your Undaunted passives and go 5/1/1 instead of 7 heavy.

V15 character, armour was mostly v15 except gloves and girdle still v14. All purple quality.
And Undaunted stuff? On PTS? ROFL

Beltan3

AngryNord wrote: »

And Undaunted stuff? On PTS? ROFL

I don't get it.

helediron

I think i soloed that boss rather easily with vr14 nb template. So i don't mind making it easier, no big deal. I think the main quest should have consistent difficulty and not too demanding.

We do have great WBs which are challenging to solo, and or course there is the arena. Unfinished dolmen is, um, still unfinished for me, and i giggled all the way while trying. My compliments to the Wrothgar WB designers!

Weberda

My DK soloed the guy and the adds with no problem. And considering how they have nerfed DK's that tells you that this boss is more than doable alone. But if you're having trouble get a friend to go along.

AngryNord

Don't worry folks, I've taken the hint. If you haven't got 100s of champion points and lots of Undaunted gear you have no right playing this game, I get it. I've uninstalled the PTS and won't be giving any more feedback on this game.

SorataArisugawa

AngryNord wrote: »

What happened to "play as you want"?

Whats about: play as you want at long it fits your needs?!? If there is someone, who just want to use light attacks... should it possible, that he defeads every boss as well? Really?

Brasseurfb16_ESO

SorataArisugawa wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

What happened to "play as you want"?

Whats about: play as you want at long it fits your needs?!? If there is someone, who just want to use light attacks... should it possible, that he defeads every boss as well? Really?

Well, it is technicaly possible to do that if you play a Health Regen build with Orgnum Scales armourset.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Brasseurfb16_ESO wrote: »

SorataArisugawa wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

What happened to "play as you want"?

Whats about: play as you want at long it fits your needs?!? If there is someone, who just want to use light attacks... should it possible, that he defeads every boss as well? Really?

Well, it is technicaly possible to do that if you play a Health Regen build with Orgnum Scales armourset.

But people will complain that "play how you want" should also include "wear what you want" and that playing the way they want should not imply crafting an 8-trait-set ;-)

Aerieth

I killed him just a few hours ago. The battle was over before he even broke through my Harness Magicka. Gear and skill difference between players is very high though, so it might be difficult for some. I kinda wish there was a difficulty setting. I want more challenging solo quest content. :<

*Edit: Played with the live server copy of my Magicka Nightblade

BuggeX

AngryNord wrote: »

andypappb16_ESO wrote: »

Change your Build / try Something Different

What happened to "play as you want"?

I want to Play nude and without a Skillpoint/CP spent, so better nerf anything to oblivion because i want to Play like this.