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Maelstrom 2H sword in current state is a joke compared to 2H fire staff

Baragorath
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In current form Maelstorm 2H sword become not competive to 2H fire staff.

<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020507/uploads/FileUpload/6e/6bb9966703945611e73117341ab8e6.png&quot; />

@ZOS please change it to state of 2H fire staff with Heavy/Light attacks doing extra damage or it will be completely not competive weapon.

For example:

Magicka user using rotation Heavy attack -> skill -> Heavy attack -> skill or Light Attack -> skill -> Light Attack -> skill in period of 5 second will have higher dps output then 2H sword users.

Additionally 2H charge ability requires movement away from enemy.

Magicka users dont have to do anything to have this extra damage while stamina users have to look on cooldown and need to make distance to use charge.

I ask all 2H stamina users to support my petition.

Thank you in advance.
Edited by Baragorath on October 20, 2015 9:29AM
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  • Jeckll
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    Dont know what's the issue. Noone uses Wall of Elements in PvP and noone uses Crit Rush in group PvE. Both Skill Alternations have specific uses but in reality, these weapons are used for the extra Weapon - and Spell Damage they provide.
    Edited by Jeckll on October 20, 2015 9:30AM
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  • Jeckll
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    ~double post~
    Edited by Jeckll on October 20, 2015 9:30AM
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  • Baragorath
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    Jeckll wrote: »
    Dont know what's the issue. Noone uses Wall of Elements in PvP and noone uses Crit Rush in group PvE. Both Skill Alternations have specific uses but in reality, these weapons are used for the extra Weapon - and Spell Damage they provide.

    Reverse it please and we have as follow:

    Use wall of elements in PVE and you increase you dps by 1k.

    Use crit rush on 2h sword in PVP and you apply 5 sec dot worth 2150 dmg with battle spirit.

    So....

    In pve stamina users are not competive to magicka users and current form lower them even further down compered to magicka users.

    In pvp it is a joke 5 sec dot.
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  • BuggeX
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    Crit Rush in allready one of the best Skills in PVP and you want to buff it even more....

    and dont come with joke dot, any dot is a joke in pvp
    Edited by BuggeX on October 20, 2015 9:43AM
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  • Shinra
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    I consider wall of elements to currently be the weaker skill.

    So I feel like it's pretty fair.
  • Dymence
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    Well we all knew the greatsword was going to get nerfed, but it feels like a nerf of 10k damage is perhaps a bit much :D
    Edited by Dymence on October 20, 2015 9:44AM
  • Baragorath
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    Crit Rush in allready one of the best Skills in PVP and you want to buff it even more....

    and dont come with joke dot, any dot is a joke in pvp

    I dont want to buff this skill.

    To be competive in PVE I wish 2H sword to be changed into Heavy / Light attacks damage as 2H fire staff is.

    Additionally it will give me pleasure to hit your banana head stronger in Azura PVP @BuggeX :smiley: which would require from me to have this sword.




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  • BuggeX
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    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Crit Rush in allready one of the best Skills in PVP and you want to buff it even more....

    and dont come with joke dot, any dot is a joke in pvp

    I dont want to buff this skill.

    To be competive in PVE I wish 2H sword to be changed into Heavy / Light attacks damage as 2H fire staff is.

    Additionally it will give me pleasure to hit your banana head stronger in Azura PVP @BuggeX :smiley: which would require from me to have this sword.

    well my dickhead is not easy to Smash.

    but since 90% animation cancel la/ha with crit rush and wave a execute over it it would just be a onehit abusing Combo.

    and now think about the EP DK with molten aramen and you consideret Change.
    He allready hit like a truck Train, so better let him hit like a Ship?
    Edited by BuggeX on October 20, 2015 10:01AM
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    #ineedheal
    #betterhotfixgrindspots
  • Jeckll
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    Baragorath wrote: »

    In pve stamina users are not competive to magicka users and current form lower them even further down compered to magicka users.

    First - I disagree
    Second - how would buffing 2h help Stamina Users in PvE? Who uses a 2h in competitive PvE anyways?
    Jeckll has quit the game. Thanks for the great time.
  • Baragorath
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    Jeckll wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »

    In pve stamina users are not competive to magicka users and current form lower them even further down compered to magicka users.

    First - I disagree
    Second - how would buffing 2h help Stamina Users in PvE? Who uses a 2h in competitive PvE anyways?

    Believe or not in current form it is completly useless to have this sword.

    Molag Kena shoulders and crafted Hunding Rage 2H sword is much better then farming for this sword from PVP perspective user.


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  • Jeckll
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    Baragorath wrote: »
    Jeckll wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »

    In pve stamina users are not competive to magicka users and current form lower them even further down compered to magicka users.

    First - I disagree
    Second - how would buffing 2h help Stamina Users in PvE? Who uses a 2h in competitive PvE anyways?

    Believe or not in current form it is completly useless to have this sword.

    Molag Kena shoulders and crafted Hunding Rage 2H sword is much better then farming for this sword from PVP perspective user.


    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 5 Briarheart, which leaves you 2 slots. That's Maelstrom 2h and Kena Shoulders.
    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 3 Agility. Then you can run a Dungeon Set combo (eg. 2x Engine Guardian or 1x Blood Spawn, 1x Kena) and use the Maelstrom 2h.

    You can replace Hunding's for Willow's or Shield Breaker...works all the way and all those suggestions are pretty solid in terms of damage and sustain.
    Jeckll has quit the game. Thanks for the great time.
  • Armitas
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    The dot is doing 860 a second, fire and forget. With the inferno staff you have to use a bad, short duration, ground dot that will also require an Impulse to keep them burning for the 20% extra damage that begins to pull the skill out of being a joke. Once all that is set and boss doesn't move out of it you can hit for 1032 damage per weave. But no one is going to add fire wall and impulse to their boss dps rotation just to get the 1032 damage from this ill conceived weapon.

    Trust me, you don't want your two hander to be made "competitive" with the inferno staff.
    Edited by Armitas on October 20, 2015 10:39AM
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Birdovic
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    Baragorath wrote: »
    In current form Maelstorm 2H sword become not competive to 2H fire staff.

    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020507/uploads/FileUpload/6e/6bb9966703945611e73117341ab8e6.png&quot; />

    @ZOS please change it to state of 2H fire staff with Heavy/Light attacks doing extra damage or it will be completely not competive weapon.

    Why didn't you complain when staff extra Dmg was 387 and 2h 14k, was THAT competitive?
    The 1k Dmg won't make people start using it anyway, mainly for the Spelldmg from equipping.

    Additionally 2H charge ability requires movement away from enemy.

    Yea,combined with a wrecking blow the distance is back, but you never equip that anyway right? :wink:
    Magicka users dont have to do anything to have this extra damage while stamina users have to look on cooldown and need to make distance to use charge.

    We have to equip a dot (WORST ingame btw) to get an awful 1k, in PvP 500 Dmg per light/heavy against people standing in a small AoE that lasts 8sec they can easily just walk out(standing in it, they won't even notice Dmg)
    I ask all 2H stamina users to support my petition.

    Great petition, really, applause!


    (Sorry for being a D....not nice person, but that's just ridiculous)
    Edited by Birdovic on October 20, 2015 10:36AM
  • Baragorath
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    [/quote]

    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 5 Briarheart, which leaves you 2 slots. That's Maelstrom 2h and Kena Shoulders.
    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 3 Agility. Then you can run a Dungeon Set combo (eg. 2x Engine Guardian or 1x Blood Spawn, 1x Kena) and use the Maelstrom 2h.

    You can replace Hunding's for Willow's or Shield Breaker...works all the way and all those suggestions are pretty solid in terms of damage and sustain.
    [/quote]

    Your math needs correction.

    Let me explain you.....

    If you use 2H weapon you can slot 11 items not 12.

    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 5 Briarheart (if you are Nightblade as for DK it is useless set) and Molag Kena shoulders.

    2H sword as you see is useless.
    Edited by Baragorath on October 20, 2015 10:39AM
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  • Baragorath
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    Jeckll wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    Jeckll wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »

    In pve stamina users are not competive to magicka users and current form lower them even further down compered to magicka users.

    First - I disagree
    Second - how would buffing 2h help Stamina Users in PvE? Who uses a 2h in competitive PvE anyways?

    Believe or not in current form it is completly useless to have this sword.

    Molag Kena shoulders and crafted Hunding Rage 2H sword is much better then farming for this sword from PVP perspective user.


    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 5 Briarheart, which leaves you 2 slots. That's Maelstrom 2h and Kena Shoulders.
    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 3 Agility. Then you can run a Dungeon Set combo (eg. 2x Engine Guardian or 1x Blood Spawn, 1x Kena) and use the Maelstrom 2h.

    You can replace Hunding's for Willow's or Shield Breaker...works all the way and all those suggestions are pretty solid in terms of damage and sustain.
    Baragorath wrote: »
    In current form Maelstorm 2H sword become not competive to 2H fire staff.

    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020507/uploads/FileUpload/6e/6bb9966703945611e73117341ab8e6.png&quot; />

    @ZOS please change it to state of 2H fire staff with Heavy/Light attacks doing extra damage or it will be completely not competive weapon.

    Why didn't you complain when staff extra Dmg was 387 and 2h 14k, was THAT competitive?
    The 1k Dmg won't make people start using it anyway, mainly for the Spelldmg from equipping.

    Additionally 2H charge ability requires movement away from enemy.

    Yea,combined with a wrecking blow the distance is back, but you never equip that anyway right? :wink:
    Magicka users dont have to do anything to have this extra damage while stamina users have to look on cooldown and need to make distance to use charge.

    We have to equip a dot (WORST ingame btw) to get an awful 1k, in PvP 500 Dmg per light/heavy against people standing in a small AoE that lasts 8sec they can easily just walk out(standing in it, they won't even notice Dmg)
    I ask all 2H stamina users to support my petition.

    Great petition, really, applause!


    (Sorry for being a D....not nice person, but that's just ridiculous)

    Sorry m8 but I dont know players which charge to enemy after wreckling blow - just cancel animation by apply another Heavy Attack + Wreckling Blow or spam Wreckling Blow to finish enemy - (when enemy is down after WB his execution comes in next second) but this is solo pvp not zerging.

    PVP is different game in solo or zergs as solo builds are useless in zergs and zergs build useless in solo.

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  • Jeckll
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    Baragorath wrote: »



    Your math needs correction.

    Let me explain you.....

    If you use 2H weapon you can slot 11 items not 12.

    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 5 Briarheart (if you are Nightblade as for DK it is useless set) and Molag Kena shoulders.

    2H sword as you see is useless.

    Yeah, my math was wrong with Setup 1, Setup 2 was correct. But the setups are still very good!

    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 5 Briarheart, which leaves you 1 slot. That's Maelstrom 2h which gives you more Weapon Dmg than Molag Kena.

    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 3 Agility. Then you can run a Dungeon Set combo (eg. 2x Engine Guardian or 1x Blood Spawn, 1x Kena) and use the Maelstrom 2h.

    You can replace Hunding's for Willow's or Shield Breaker...works all the way and all those suggestions are pretty solid in terms of damage and sustain.

    The only negative thing about 2h is that there is only a sword instead of a Mace. Obviously I can only speak from a Nightblade PoV, but the 2h seems a legit choice for certain setups. It SHOULD NOT be the "must have" for any setup. It's a matter of choice and a valid one if you go for it.
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  • Baragorath
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    Jeckll wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »



    Your math needs correction.

    Let me explain you.....

    If you use 2H weapon you can slot 11 items not 12.

    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 5 Briarheart (if you are Nightblade as for DK it is useless set) and Molag Kena shoulders.

    2H sword as you see is useless.

    Yeah, my math was wrong with Setup 1, Setup 2 was correct. But the setups are still very good!

    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 5 Briarheart, which leaves you 1 slot. That's Maelstrom 2h which gives you more Weapon Dmg than Molag Kena.

    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 3 Agility. Then you can run a Dungeon Set combo (eg. 2x Engine Guardian or 1x Blood Spawn, 1x Kena) and use the Maelstrom 2h.

    You can replace Hunding's for Willow's or Shield Breaker...works all the way and all those suggestions are pretty solid in terms of damage and sustain.

    The only negative thing about 2h is that there is only a sword instead of a Mace. Obviously I can only speak from a Nightblade PoV, but the 2h seems a legit choice for certain setups. It SHOULD NOT be the "must have" for any setup. It's a matter of choice and a valid one if you go for it.

    Thank you m8.

    From Orsinium update I would expect something special as master 2H weapon was year ago.

    This 2H Maelstorm sword is just gear substitute not must be weapon for both pve and pvp playing.

    And from my perspective in current form just useless gadget to link in guild chat.

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  • Birdovic
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    Baragorath wrote: »
    Jeckll wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    Jeckll wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »

    In pve stamina users are not competive to magicka users and current form lower them even further down compered to magicka users.

    First - I disagree
    Second - how would buffing 2h help Stamina Users in PvE? Who uses a 2h in competitive PvE anyways?

    Believe or not in current form it is completly useless to have this sword.

    Molag Kena shoulders and crafted Hunding Rage 2H sword is much better then farming for this sword from PVP perspective user.


    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 5 Briarheart, which leaves you 2 slots. That's Maelstrom 2h and Kena Shoulders.
    Let's say you run 5 Hunding's, 3 Agility. Then you can run a Dungeon Set combo (eg. 2x Engine Guardian or 1x Blood Spawn, 1x Kena) and use the Maelstrom 2h.

    You can replace Hunding's for Willow's or Shield Breaker...works all the way and all those suggestions are pretty solid in terms of damage and sustain.
    Baragorath wrote: »
    In current form Maelstorm 2H sword become not competive to 2H fire staff.

    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020507/uploads/FileUpload/6e/6bb9966703945611e73117341ab8e6.png&quot; />

    @ZOS please change it to state of 2H fire staff with Heavy/Light attacks doing extra damage or it will be completely not competive weapon.

    Why didn't you complain when staff extra Dmg was 387 and 2h 14k, was THAT competitive?
    The 1k Dmg won't make people start using it anyway, mainly for the Spelldmg from equipping.

    Additionally 2H charge ability requires movement away from enemy.

    Yea,combined with a wrecking blow the distance is back, but you never equip that anyway right? :wink:
    Magicka users dont have to do anything to have this extra damage while stamina users have to look on cooldown and need to make distance to use charge.

    We have to equip a dot (WORST ingame btw) to get an awful 1k, in PvP 500 Dmg per light/heavy against people standing in a small AoE that lasts 8sec they can easily just walk out(standing in it, they won't even notice Dmg)
    I ask all 2H stamina users to support my petition.

    Great petition, really, applause!


    (Sorry for being a D....not nice person, but that's just ridiculous)

    Sorry m8 but I dont know players which charge to enemy after wreckling blow - just cancel animation by apply another Heavy Attack + Wreckling Blow or spam Wreckling Blow to finish enemy - (when enemy is down after WB his execution comes in next second) but this is solo pvp not zerging.

    PVP is different game in solo or zergs as solo builds are useless in zergs and zergs build useless in solo.
    The crit charge was an example to show how easily you can reapply the DOT nonstop with an ability that everyone has equipped anyway (a "no brainer" as people like to call).

    I don't know how your comparison of zerg to solo now adds anything useful to this discussion.
    PvP is PvP. Everything you do has the same battle spirit debuff applied.
    Edited by Birdovic on October 20, 2015 11:08AM
  • Dymence
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    We have to equip a dot (WORST ingame btw)

    Allow me to introduce to you: Scalding rune.
  • BuggeX
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    and btw, if you plan to zerg (i mean bomberzerging) you will never use 2H, you allways use Dw
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  • Jeckll
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    Dymence wrote: »
    We have to equip a dot (WORST ingame btw)

    Allow me to introduce to you: Scalding rune.

    Allow me to introduce to you: Agony.
    Jeckll has quit the game. Thanks for the great time.
  • Baragorath
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    and btw, if you plan to zerg (i mean bomberzerging) you will never use 2H, you allways use Dw

    Why then when killing you I always have notification - You killed BuggeX by Heavy Attack or Executioner?

    BTW everyone of us have 2 bars to slot skills and have chance to use 2 sets of weapons.

    Advice you to receive more stars on pvp then forum.
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  • Birdovic
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    Dymence wrote: »
    We have to equip a dot (WORST ingame btw)

    Allow me to introduce to you: Scalding rune.

    Thanks mate, almost forgot about it. But at least it has a initial hit and you're not forced to equip a staff :lol:
    The point is, Wall of elements dot is still among the worst dots and is required to get the effect to work and a staff equipped
  • BuggeX
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    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    and btw, if you plan to zerg (i mean bomberzerging) you will never use 2H, you allways use Dw

    Why then when killing you I always have notification - You killed BuggeX by Heavy Attack or Executioner?

    BTW everyone of us have 2 bars to slot skills and have chance to use 2 sets of weapons.

    Advice you to receive more stars on pvp then forum.

    Cause of this, i guess you where one of the Reds at Arrius at 9 MET?
    Where even Baumlaus died within seconds to this absurd Dmg, where a Silvershard is hiting with 6-7k
    Well then, let me tell you, this Group is somthing Special.

    But this is not a usuall Bomberblob what i mentioned above.

    and btw, 5 stars on the Forum or 5 stars above you char, i dont see any differenc ;)
    Edited by BuggeX on October 20, 2015 11:31AM
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  • Baragorath
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    and btw, if you plan to zerg (i mean bomberzerging) you will never use 2H, you allways use Dw

    Why then when killing you I always have notification - You killed BuggeX by Heavy Attack or Executioner?

    BTW everyone of us have 2 bars to slot skills and have chance to use 2 sets of weapons.

    Advice you to receive more stars on pvp then forum.

    Cause of this, i guess you where one of the Reds at Arrius at 9 MET?
    Where even Baumlaus died within seconds to this absurd Dmg, where a Silvershard is hiting with 6-7k
    Well then, let me tell you, this Group is somthing Special.

    But this is not a usuall Bomberblob what i mentioned above.

    and btw, 5 stars on the Forum or 5 stars above you char, i dont see any differenc ;)

    I didnt start this post to speak about short banana time reign yesterday night on Azura and squishy Baumlaus on Alessia outer walls or making banana juice on bridge but about 2H Maelstorm sword my friend.

    Have still hope @ZoS will make those weapons worth to posses not worth to have in bank to show in guild chat.
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  • BuggeX
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    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    and btw, if you plan to zerg (i mean bomberzerging) you will never use 2H, you allways use Dw

    Why then when killing you I always have notification - You killed BuggeX by Heavy Attack or Executioner?

    BTW everyone of us have 2 bars to slot skills and have chance to use 2 sets of weapons.

    Advice you to receive more stars on pvp then forum.

    Cause of this, i guess you where one of the Reds at Arrius at 9 MET?
    Where even Baumlaus died within seconds to this absurd Dmg, where a Silvershard is hiting with 6-7k
    Well then, let me tell you, this Group is somthing Special.

    But this is not a usuall Bomberblob what i mentioned above.

    and btw, 5 stars on the Forum or 5 stars above you char, i dont see any differenc ;)

    I didnt start this post to speak about short banana time reign yesterday night on Azura and squishy Baumlaus on Alessia outer walls or making banana juice on bridge but about 2H Maelstorm sword my friend.

    Have still hope @ZoS will make those weapons worth to posses not worth to have in bank to show in guild chat.

    But it sems you did,, just so you can save the cost of one skill when you 1hitcombo somthing down?
    When a charged heavy allready Bypass the block with 6-8k and you want even more dmg on this.
    Well then somthing sems not working proper.

    Im in General fine with additional dmg or even Major empower so the Dks dont Need to waste a Slot with entropy to buff dragonleap, but when Things allready sounds broken as ***, well then i have a Problem.
    #makemagickadkgreataigan
    #givemeaexecute
    #ineedheal
    #betterhotfixgrindspots
  • Baragorath
    Baragorath
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    and btw, if you plan to zerg (i mean bomberzerging) you will never use 2H, you allways use Dw

    Why then when killing you I always have notification - You killed BuggeX by Heavy Attack or Executioner?

    BTW everyone of us have 2 bars to slot skills and have chance to use 2 sets of weapons.

    Advice you to receive more stars on pvp then forum.

    Cause of this, i guess you where one of the Reds at Arrius at 9 MET?
    Where even Baumlaus died within seconds to this absurd Dmg, where a Silvershard is hiting with 6-7k
    Well then, let me tell you, this Group is somthing Special.

    But this is not a usuall Bomberblob what i mentioned above.

    and btw, 5 stars on the Forum or 5 stars above you char, i dont see any differenc ;)

    I didnt start this post to speak about short banana time reign yesterday night on Azura and squishy Baumlaus on Alessia outer walls or making banana juice on bridge but about 2H Maelstorm sword my friend.

    Have still hope @ZoS will make those weapons worth to posses not worth to have in bank to show in guild chat.

    But it sems you did,, just so you can save the cost of one skill when you 1hitcombo somthing down?
    When a charged heavy allready Bypass the block with 6-8k and you want even more dmg on this.
    Well then somthing sems not working proper.

    Im in General fine with additional dmg or even Major empower so the Dks dont Need to waste a Slot with entropy to buff dragonleap, but when Things allready sounds broken as ***, well then i have a Problem.

    What is 2,1 k dmg over 5 sec compared to steel tornado aoe damage which your alliance love to run?

    Why you not start tread nerf steel tornado zergs specially represented by your alliance.

    Please dont tell me that current state of 2H Maelstorm Sword is right as it is not.

    Steel tornado hits all for 4-7k dmg on one hit in range of 12 metres.

    You want to tell that only steel tornado zerg group have to be played and not counter?

    Let speak about Maelstorm weapons not lost fun due to be wiped by other zerg tactic then steel tornado.
    Baragorath - Proud Nord - Dragon Knight - Former Emperor - AR40
    One-Who-Crushes-Mountains - Argonian - Templar - AR8
    Grotarg Delan - Dunmer - Nightblade - AR6
    Avosaris - High Elf - Sorcerer - AR6

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  • BuggeX
    BuggeX
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    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    and btw, if you plan to zerg (i mean bomberzerging) you will never use 2H, you allways use Dw

    Why then when killing you I always have notification - You killed BuggeX by Heavy Attack or Executioner?

    BTW everyone of us have 2 bars to slot skills and have chance to use 2 sets of weapons.

    Advice you to receive more stars on pvp then forum.

    Cause of this, i guess you where one of the Reds at Arrius at 9 MET?
    Where even Baumlaus died within seconds to this absurd Dmg, where a Silvershard is hiting with 6-7k
    Well then, let me tell you, this Group is somthing Special.

    But this is not a usuall Bomberblob what i mentioned above.

    and btw, 5 stars on the Forum or 5 stars above you char, i dont see any differenc ;)

    I didnt start this post to speak about short banana time reign yesterday night on Azura and squishy Baumlaus on Alessia outer walls or making banana juice on bridge but about 2H Maelstorm sword my friend.

    Have still hope @ZoS will make those weapons worth to posses not worth to have in bank to show in guild chat.

    But it sems you did,, just so you can save the cost of one skill when you 1hitcombo somthing down?
    When a charged heavy allready Bypass the block with 6-8k and you want even more dmg on this.
    Well then somthing sems not working proper.

    Im in General fine with additional dmg or even Major empower so the Dks dont Need to waste a Slot with entropy to buff dragonleap, but when Things allready sounds broken as ***, well then i have a Problem.

    What is 2,1 k dmg over 5 sec compared to steel tornado aoe damage which your alliance love to run?

    Why you not start tread nerf steel tornado zergs specially represented by your alliance.

    Please dont tell me that current state of 2H Maelstorm Sword is right as it is not.

    Steel tornado hits all for 4-7k dmg on one hit in range of 12 metres.

    You want to tell that only steel tornado zerg group have to be played and not counter?

    Let speak about Maelstorm weapons not lost fun due to be wiped by other zerg tactic then steel tornado.

    allready told million of times they should nerf stealtornado to oblivion, but well you know its zos.
    they love nerfing weak Things and buffing op Things.

    But stop insulting 1 alliance, any bomberzerg is running the same *** skills.
    Batswam/stealtornado/barrier/Purge/honor of deads/Prox Det.

    and i dont know how you even Image to be able to wipe one of this Group with additional dmg after crit rush,


    But to come back to your 2h mstorm, the 2h would NOT be balanced with additional dmg on LA/HA cause of the easy possibility to wave a LA/HA right after crit rush.
    #makemagickadkgreataigan
    #givemeaexecute
    #ineedheal
    #betterhotfixgrindspots
  • Birdovic
    Birdovic
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    First you start a thread crying about an awful Destro Staff to be "on par" and the 2h not overpowered enough, then bragging about killing the guy earlier in PvP, then accusing him of going offtopic, while it clearly was You who went off topic on your own thread.


    first and last time I agree: Steeltornado needs to be adjusted.


    What a worthless thread :tired_face:
    I'm out...
  • Baragorath
    Baragorath
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    and btw, if you plan to zerg (i mean bomberzerging) you will never use 2H, you allways use Dw

    Why then when killing you I always have notification - You killed BuggeX by Heavy Attack or Executioner?

    BTW everyone of us have 2 bars to slot skills and have chance to use 2 sets of weapons.

    Advice you to receive more stars on pvp then forum.

    Cause of this, i guess you where one of the Reds at Arrius at 9 MET?
    Where even Baumlaus died within seconds to this absurd Dmg, where a Silvershard is hiting with 6-7k
    Well then, let me tell you, this Group is somthing Special.

    But this is not a usuall Bomberblob what i mentioned above.

    and btw, 5 stars on the Forum or 5 stars above you char, i dont see any differenc ;)

    I didnt start this post to speak about short banana time reign yesterday night on Azura and squishy Baumlaus on Alessia outer walls or making banana juice on bridge but about 2H Maelstorm sword my friend.

    Have still hope @ZoS will make those weapons worth to posses not worth to have in bank to show in guild chat.

    But it sems you did,, just so you can save the cost of one skill when you 1hitcombo somthing down?
    When a charged heavy allready Bypass the block with 6-8k and you want even more dmg on this.
    Well then somthing sems not working proper.

    Im in General fine with additional dmg or even Major empower so the Dks dont Need to waste a Slot with entropy to buff dragonleap, but when Things allready sounds broken as ***, well then i have a Problem.

    What is 2,1 k dmg over 5 sec compared to steel tornado aoe damage which your alliance love to run?

    Why you not start tread nerf steel tornado zergs specially represented by your alliance.

    Please dont tell me that current state of 2H Maelstorm Sword is right as it is not.

    Steel tornado hits all for 4-7k dmg on one hit in range of 12 metres.

    You want to tell that only steel tornado zerg group have to be played and not counter?

    Let speak about Maelstorm weapons not lost fun due to be wiped by other zerg tactic then steel tornado.

    allready told million of times they should nerf stealtornado to oblivion, but well you know its zos.
    they love nerfing weak Things and buffing op Things.

    But stop insulting 1 alliance, any bomberzerg is running the same *** skills.
    Batswam/stealtornado/barrier/Purge/honor of deads/Prox Det.

    and i dont know how you even Image to be able to wipe one of this Group with additional dmg after crit rush,


    But to come back to your 2h mstorm, the 2h would NOT be balanced with additional dmg on LA/HA cause of the easy possibility to wave a LA/HA right after crit rush.

    You will see posts after releasing Orsinium with complains about this new weapons.

    Here is PTS and we can still show to ZOS how big fail it is in current form.

    Here you have example:

    Whos idea was to share Cyro with IC server lock population after ZOS announced that entrance to IC will be allowed by all faction without restrictions?

    Azura is most pvp cyro oriented campaign and if our side form full IC raid with some alone randoms then those peoples can destroy balance in cyro fights making that our side is wiped out from map how it was proved when your side get Emperor last night.

    When you que you are in position 100+ waiting 1 hr to enter cyro to realize that half population which is locked stay in sewers.

    We have PTS to show ZOS what destroy the game or the balance and they should fix it.

    Do you really feel that Mealstorm weapons are such strong as Master Weapons were?
    Baragorath - Proud Nord - Dragon Knight - Former Emperor - AR40
    One-Who-Crushes-Mountains - Argonian - Templar - AR8
    Grotarg Delan - Dunmer - Nightblade - AR6
    Avosaris - High Elf - Sorcerer - AR6

    Squishy Tomatoes - Pact Support Group - July 2016 - up to date

    Decimation Elite - Field Marshal - December 2014 - May 2016

    Gave up on Banana Squad members math skills - March 2016
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