Brand New Armor Trashed in One Day of Gameplay

zornyan · October 2015

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

You do know that if you're a crafter you don't just sell everything? I don't grind my levels going for the easy and fast way to get xp and gold in the ic and cyrodil. Just playing through the campaigns is more interesting to me.

Even a full play through the story and cadwells silver and gold nets an easy 150k gold.

Seriously any end game content, be it solo or group nets stuff worth lots of money!

Go to craglorn, run around for an hour, sell 1 or 2 nirncrux for 40k gold.

Get crafting writs, earn gold tempers, sell for 12k gold each.

Steal stuff fence them.

Go into imperial city and open treasure vaults which can drop extremely expensive items

Pvp in cyrodiil and get end of camping rewards for 25 -50k a pop.

Here's a big hint though. At End game you're going to need money, and lots of it if you want half decent equipment, unless you want to grind and HARD .

You've got crafted sets which at vr 16 is 150 mats per piece, and 8 gold tempers each, some of the best gear isn't craftable, sets like willpower and agility means you'll ever have to dedicate weeks of grinding out treasure keys. Or buy them for 150-200k a piece.

newtinmpls · October 2015

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

Silver Cadwell's quest reward gold has been absolutely horrible. You can't repair 7 badly damaged VR 3 armor pieces for 50 gold.

That idea doesn't even make sense. .... 50 gold? Seriously??

Saltypretzels · October 2015

Remaking your armor doesn't make much sense. Why not just pay the repair bill?

Thrasher91604 · October 2015

newtinmpls wrote: »

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

Silver Cadwell's quest reward gold has been absolutely horrible. You can't repair 7 badly damaged VR 3 armor pieces for 50 gold.

That idea doesn't even make sense. .... 50 gold? Seriously??

Seriously. First quest area (bleakrock/bal foyen), maybe a total of 300 gold. They didn't level the quest gold reward. idiotic.

At the end of the the AD campaign, quests were giving me hundreds of gold. Quests in Bleakrock on silver back down to as little as 20 gold each. Piddly.

Repairing all my V3 armor that was practically broken would have cost me about 1000 or so gold. I would have been lucky to break even.

Thrasher91604 · October 2015

Saltypretzels wrote: »

Remaking your armor doesn't make much sense. Why not just pay the repair bill?

It's too expensive. I won't save gold if I repair my armor all the time. Believe me, I've tried it. Money I need for increasing storage space on my main, and 3 mules. I am not a hoarder, but try to keep at most one stack of all crafting mats and unique armor sets. Duplicate set armor set pieces and second stacks of mats are sold off.

Xendyn · October 2015

I remember how hard it was at first to level and upgrade everything.
Kind of sounds like your problem really is making gold, you do have to spend a bit of time at it, tho.
Lots of threads around here with tips. Let me start you out with one.

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194740/does-anyone-know-the-best-ways-to-make-gold-easy

zornyan · October 2015

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

Saltypretzels wrote: »

Remaking your armor doesn't make much sense. Why not just pay the repair bill?

It's too expensive. I won't save gold if I repair my armor all the time. Believe me, I've tried it. Money I need for increasing storage space on my main, and 3 mules. I am not a hoarder, but try to keep at most one stack of all crafting mats and unique armor sets. Duplicate set armor set pieces and second stacks of mats are sold off.

What are you going to do once you hit vr16 and gear essentially costs 300k worth of mats each time you want to craft a set?

Nestor · October 2015

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

So it is reasonable to lose all your armor in a full day's play?

I am surprised it lasts that long. I can totally wreck an armor set in a couple of hours. The more Exp you get, the more your armor is damaged basically.

Thing is, if your looting the mobs, selling just one third of the loot you get will cover your repairs, so make sure your looting and vendoring (selling to in game NPC vendors) at least enough to cover repairs. If your crafting, then decon the rest and repair bills will be a thing of the past. Also, repairing each time your bags are full usually gives a smaller hit on the pocket each time rather than waiting until the end of the day.

Thrasher91604 · October 2015

Xendyn wrote: »

I remember how hard it was at first to level and upgrade everything.
Kind of sounds like your problem really is making gold, you do have to spend a bit of time at it, tho.
Lots of threads around here with tips. Let me start you out with one.

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/194740/does-anyone-know-the-best-ways-to-make-gold-easy

Grinding activities like those mentioned in that thread are exactly what I DON'T want to do. The only repetitive stuff I do is daily writs and oddly enough fishing. The writs are giving me about 3600 gold a day. I've about 150k banked. Once it looks like I won't need money for storage space upgrades I'll start thinking about spending gold on gear repair. Probably right around the time where it will be prohibitive to re-craft high vet broken gear. There is a method to the madness.

But if I have to start grinding endgame content to afford the repairs, that's probably when I'll stop with that character.

What's irritating is all this poor advice from endgamers who don't remember and deign to think about what it was like starting out. Are so many people really so self-centered and narcissistic, that they can't think outside their own situation? Sad reflection on this community. Why invest the time in it?

EDIT: I do have to say I've met some really nice (mostly) people online, and to those guys, CHEERS!

Thrasher91604 · October 2015

Nestor wrote: »

Also, repairing each time your bags are full usually gives a smaller hit on the pocket each time rather than waiting until the end of the day.

Thanks for the advice! Right now I can't afford to repair, level crafting, and buy bag upgrades. See above. Clothing and Woodworking are maxed at 50, so now I'll start selling the stuff I don't need the traits/stones for. We'll see. I was up to 200k at one point but had to buy a few bag/bank upgrades that set me back to ~100k.

newtinmpls · October 2015

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

Thanks for the advice! Right now I can't afford to repair, level crafting, and buy bag upgrades. .

I generally repair and level crafting. Bags have to wait a while.

F7sus4 · October 2015

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

I created my first crafted light armor sets (V3 Torugs, and Seducer), and after one day of playing in Cadwell's silver first 2 zones, it's almost totally trashed. In particular unstunnable ghosts and wisps in Crow's Wood, and enemies with ranged attacks.

Is this a L2P issue or normal when getting ganked by mobs of uncontrollable monsters?

- Hey man, what happened to your pants?
- I fell down and I tore them. It's not my fault, they're just stupid.

PS. You know that pre-1.7 you ended up with your armor 80% destroyed after a single run of Trials? On average, a hardcore raiders spent around ~20k per Trials evening on repairs/kits solely. Now they fixed the rate at which the armor degenerates. And you still complain? Come on, be a man and pay the bills!

DRXHarbinger · October 2015

Rather than cry about it breaking, esp in trials, be sensible and take an extra set with you, never leave home without extra protection, I always carry an extra set of armor and 2 Staves, don't need to worry about repairing whilst in game, dungeons etc and having to annoy your party whilst you vanish for 10mins to go fix it, Faster play = more rewards, running around repairing all the time isn't productive. it's not expensive though, most I have every had to pay is 1900 for a complete wrecked set.

for the low levels out there, don't bother wasting your gold on buying new gear all the time, you'll out grow in a day, just use what you can until you hit the vet levels and then try, I used Iron Armor until mid 40's and got there, makes minimal difference when running the base game.

F7sus4 · October 2015

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

never leave home without extra protection

never leave home without extra protection

Thrasher91604 · October 2015

Well the answer is don't get xp too fast so that my free greater repair kits from writs can keep up. No efficient grinding for me.Thanks ZOS!

DannyLV702 · October 2015

I'm glad I'm a pvp player 99.99% of the time.

CGPsaint · October 2015

I decon all loot for mats and inspiration, which is more important to my crafter than gold. My primary source of income is running 2-3 circuits looting containers/lockboxes and selling said loot at my local Outlaw's Refuge. I easily net 5K gold per day, which is enough to sustain the cost of repairs on my level 45 character.

MisterBigglesworth · October 2015

Just play naked.

Thrasher91604 · October 2015

Then I'd be stalked by horny furries. Not sure what's worse.

Thrasher91604 · October 2015

Update (assuming someone cares

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I am short on grand repairs. Luckily the rewards have been better in Stonefalls, so with the looting, and some fishing for roe I have been able to buy repairs as long as I do them frequently.

ADarklore · October 2015

Strange... complaining about cost of repairs and then talking about just recrafting armor when they're clearly not including the cost of recrafting items... materials, traits and time spent collecting materials.

The reality is, if you're out and about getting into battles that cause armor damage, then you should also be looting and selling everything- this MORE THAN makes up for the cost of repairs. When I'm grinding mobs, I loot everything and then once inventory is full, I jump on my mount and run down the road to find the nearest wandering merchant, sell everything I looted, repair my armor, and run back to the battle.

Islyn · October 2015

redspecter23 wrote: »

You might be surprised to know that armor wear is mostly based on how much damage you deal to the enemies and has little to nothing to do with how much you get hit.

That being said, I can wear down a set of armor in about 30 minutes of mob grinding. I just keep on going after that and repair it when I have time.

Ha! Same! I go to bank telvar and sell up and it's all 1,453 repair all? Lol.okay then ya Khajiit scammer!!

lycanslerwb17_ESO · October 2015

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

I created my first crafted light armor sets (V3 Torugs, and Seducer), and after one day of playing in Cadwell's silver first 2 zones, it's almost totally trashed. In particular unstunnable ghosts and wisps in Crow's Wood, and enemies with ranged attacks.

Is this a L2P issue or normal when getting ganked by mobs of uncontrollable monsters?

glad its happening to someone else, not just me. i thought i was a bad player. Im always fixing mine.

Thrasher91604 · October 2015

ADarklore wrote: »

Strange... complaining about cost of repairs and then talking about just recrafting armor when they're clearly not including the cost of recrafting items... materials, traits and time spent collecting.

You clearly didn't comprehend. Vr3 armor is cheap to craft. Much cheaper than the cost to repair said vr3 broken armor.