Azura's Star NA (PC) -What is going on!?

RinaldoGandolphi

Indeed, i guess anyone who has a differing opinion gets the Axe.

Thats a real productive environment there.....

God_flakes

Who is hotemper anyway? Does he have another alt?

apostate9

Minno wrote: »

Lil_kitty wrote: »

Only a small group of Chuck Norris were holding Ash. What was the rest of the pop-locked DC doing? Some were either spamming zone with hindering messages against our faction whilst others were waiting at Southern High Rock for their ports to IC to open.

Special thanks to HoD, AK, CN, FP and Egypt's group that actually work together to help DC.

FP has been nothing but classy players. I see them pick up those pugs via zone!!

I actually have to commend you guys for this attitude. When I pick up pugs in a guild raid, I get mocked for it by some among my own faction. Silly me, rubbing elbows with the unwashed masses...

manny254

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I don't know I was summoned here. And no way I am reading through all this nerd crap, way too many too make fun on in here in a very limited amount of time. So I will keep it simple.

Hotemper, you sissy, I don't care what guild you are in or who is watching your back. You are an utter disgrace as a DC emperor. You are not even in the same galaxy as a Pain in the Axe, Egypt, Bitaken, etc. I will grab you by your little wood elf neck with my left hand and slam you against the stone walls of mighty South High Rock. And with a tub of Greek yogurt by my side, I will be putting spponfuls into your mouth every five seconds. And then when you can no longer take it you will utter the words "I'm SORRY Publius! I'm sorry! I lack biceps and I am a fool!" as Greek yogurt falls from your mouth.

I don't think our enemies would say that. Dude held his Emp down like a boss. Haven't seen another DC team hold Emp in Azura that long ever.

You are joking right? DC held emp because they regularly ball up with most of the faction in one place. Your emp is terrible.

Every single emp DC has had recently plays out like this.

"Hey we killed the emp"

"Oh cool didn't even notice him"

This essentially means that the other factions don't care to face 70 people together over dethroning someone who doesn't really effect the tide of battle. If anything we would be more worried about the health bonus you get while you are stacked up with all of your faction in one place.

I will give you that the health bonus translates to a lot of needed damage output to kill your giant horde.

Grampa_Smurf

Just popped in to read some more.......

Satiar

Azuras is wack.

I come over there with VE time to time in the evening after we finish the ring or the dethrone on Trueflame, and it's just a madhouse.

Chalman Mine feels like old times there.

CN_Daniel

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manny254 wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I don't know I was summoned here. And no way I am reading through all this nerd crap, way too many too make fun on in here in a very limited amount of time. So I will keep it simple.

Hotemper, you sissy, I don't care what guild you are in or who is watching your back. You are an utter disgrace as a DC emperor. You are not even in the same galaxy as a Pain in the Axe, Egypt, Bitaken, etc. I will grab you by your little wood elf neck with my left hand and slam you against the stone walls of mighty South High Rock. And with a tub of Greek yogurt by my side, I will be putting spponfuls into your mouth every five seconds. And then when you can no longer take it you will utter the words "I'm SORRY Publius! I'm sorry! I lack biceps and I am a fool!" as Greek yogurt falls from your mouth.

I don't think our enemies would say that. Dude held his Emp down like a boss. Haven't seen another DC team hold Emp in Azura that long ever.

You are joking right? DC held emp because they regularly ball up with most of the faction in one place. Your emp is terrible.

Every single emp DC has had recently plays out like this.

"Hey we killed the emp"

"Oh cool didn't even notice him"

This essentially means that the other factions don't care to face 70 people together over dethroning someone who doesn't really effect the tide of battle. If anything we would be more worried about the health bonus you get while you are stacked up with all of your faction in one place.

I will give you that the health bonus translates to a lot of needed damage output to kill your giant horde.

You must have joined TKO. That 54+ people you wuz rolling with last night was EPIC! 54 was what my nado tagged, so I'm suspecting you guys had 3 full raids.

I take your comments about 70 people as a complement, knowing my team got to 24 for maybe 2 hours the whole weekend :-)

My absolute FAVORITE pst i got from a member of your team this weekend: "You just wipped all of rage, Moe is super salty in TS right meow"

Minno

apostate9 wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Lil_kitty wrote: »

Only a small group of Chuck Norris were holding Ash. What was the rest of the pop-locked DC doing? Some were either spamming zone with hindering messages against our faction whilst others were waiting at Southern High Rock for their ports to IC to open.

Special thanks to HoD, AK, CN, FP and Egypt's group that actually work together to help DC.

FP has been nothing but classy players. I see them pick up those pugs via zone!!

I actually have to commend you guys for this attitude. When I pick up pugs in a guild raid, I get mocked for it by some among my own faction. Silly me, rubbing elbows with the unwashed masses...

You have to respect the pugs that venture into pvp. It takes a certain type of masochistic personalty to stay in Cyro for so long; not to mention a curiosity that exists which has to be approached delicately if you want those pugs to stay.

We all were pugs once and someone has to train them/lead groups (even if its small teams). Anyone who tells you otherwise is an obstacle to your faction (general comment for all sides.)

God_flakes

I am always happy to pick up pugs. And when I get back from my vacation I intend to get back to training pugs. I actually ENJOY it. It is how I have made some of my best friends and had some of the most fun in game. I like taking green people and training them exactly as I want and need them to fight. I don't understand the elitist attitude of thinking pugs are beneath you. More often than not they're eager to be their best and contribute what they can.

CN_Daniel

No hate towards the pugs and our more casual colleagues at all. But you can't expect to win ever against the best of the best with different people in your group each day uNess you oit number them significantly. That's just truth.

What are we talking about?

God_flakes

That's why you don't send trainees up against the best of the best. You send in your hardcore players against them and you know who they are. EP and AD both have stellar players but they also have pugs. And they also have good teachers. (I hope). The key is recognizing your role and fulfilling it. Now if we could get DC to work together whereas some guilds agree to train and prep new players and some agree to corral the seasoned warriors and send them in the appropriate directions...think about how much we could accomplish.

Minno

NPK Daniel wrote: »

No hate towards the pugs and our more casual colleagues at all. But you can't expect to win ever against the best of the best with different people in your group each day uNess you oit number them significantly. That's just truth.

What are we talking about?

Comment was open ended to support @apostate9

Not about winning at that point. It's about pop health of entire game in relation to the pop health of the faction.

At some point those seasoned veterans are going to venture off in search of real life distractions leaving you with empty spots.

Good guilds can only exist with the healthy availability of the average casual player. And vice versa.
And good players only come about with practice and patience.

Lord_Hev

People -still- care about Campaign scores and victories? lol



I mean yeah, victories are nice and morale boosting but... there has to come a point for some of you where it just gets... utterly... tiresome. I've long reached that point already, I can't be bothered to give a damn. I PvP for good fights, not to hold stuff for stupid points on a scoreboard that does not matter in the long-run.

TheBull

That EG dude was a terrible leader. It no coincedent that when he went EP DC won for months straight. That dude was poison. If you feel other wise you (not OP in particular)are terrible too.

Minno

Lord_Hev wrote: »

People -still- care about Campaign scores and victories? lol



I mean yeah, victories are nice and morale boosting but... there has to come a point for some of you where it just gets... utterly... tiresome. I've long reached that point already, I can't be bothered to give a damn. I PvP for good fights, not to hold stuff for stupid points on a scoreboard that does not matter in the long-run.

You plan ahead those fights? Or use the board objectives and point system to hopefully meet those fights?
The game isn't setup to randomly find those players consistently in a random part of the map. While also negating the reason behind the point system.

So, hypothetically, you go an enemy keep looking to gank players. Are players moving towards the objective you came from or setup a gank at? If not you aren't finding battles because, loosely, the enemy players care about those objectives enough to move their toons also looking for battles.

Grandest move would be emp taking. Requires groups and or entire server of players, requires you have earned tons of AP to earn top spot and knowledge of that point system to know which moves to make.

At some stage everyone playing pvp must attribute their playing with the overall point system setup by ZOS. And the morale aspect is important to overall health of server popularity for each faction. That morale is easily boosted when you take keeps or other targets.

I do agree that the current point system is boring and do for an update. But laughing at players that try to celebrate it or know how basic its understanding is to pvp, is not the way to go.

Telel

WARNING: None of this will be overly helpful

Telel has a saying they dispense to their pups in order to encourage them to think beyond their personal advancement, and stinginess in placing siege.

"If you're not playing to win the campaign with your faction then you're just playing with yourself. "

Also

"We're the $%$#%^% Goonies of AD ."

Though that last one is not entirely relevant it's worth noting we 'earned' that title thanks to someone disparaging the entire guild, and our meager efforts to do what it takes to pull out a campaign win.

Oh and uhmm this one has one more quote they often use a variation of when their faction's drama llamas begin their mating calls.

"Less drama Llama, more murder manatees. Now stop whinging, think positive thoughts, and go murder some EP"

MountainHound

Simple fact, You won't beat a core team of 12 with 24 pugs, as proved tonight. I would charge in expecting them to be with me, then baaaaam half are still alive trailed back to the keep (or dead) and no where near the crowns body.

God_flakes

MountainHound wrote: »

Simple fact, You won't beat a core team of 12 with 24 pugs, as proved tonight. I would charge in expecting them to be with me, then baaaaam half are still alive trailed back to the keep (or dead) and no where near the crowns body.

Very very very true. However, you can't build a core without kissing some frogs. Kwim? Herding and teaching pugs is draining, aggravating and time consuming. It is a selfless, often thankless task. But the gems you find in the rough are worth every minute. Some of dc's very best were once pugs and or casuals of eg, el, no mercy, etc.

And Telel, I love your last post. I appreciate your dedication to your faction. It is admirable!

Telel

Well khajiit has to compensate for their inability to kill anything without help. So they make up for their incompetence by being the guy who does everything else the right way, and in the properly humble manner of the khajiit.

God_flakes

Are cats that bad? Lol

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

I had the misfortune of observing a rather messy siege at Chalman. EP had been struggling to take their home keep back for some time (after dumbly abandoning it in favor of Alessia then losing Alessia to AD...) It looked very much like EP's majority poplock pitted against DC's majority poplock with siege covering the entire top deck of the inner keep and ambush groups to intercept rezzers, gankers, and runners. The inner wall came down and EP's massive might prepared to swarm in.

2/3 of them stood in the breech with oils spilling down upon them. the remaining third ran up to the top deck where they were promptly butchered by DC's tightly wound balls. Those that didn't get incinerated by the oil spa died en masse when they thought it would be better to dogpile the flag instead of clearing out resistance (that only works when there's less resistance than your offense...). So all of the exterior crew's efforts were for naught as DC mopped up the remaining forces and repaired the wall.

Where was blame assigned in EP chat? Apparently not everyone knew that 'you were supposed to go up to the top deck".

Well of course they're not gonna know that. Barely any groups were in operation. There were two major ones I could think of, SOTP and Haxus, and the rest were scattered smaller groups with a considerable amount of new players who didn't even know how you got 'volunteer' rank. There was no coordination, and every time one group tried doing something, another did something the complete opposite which utterly torpedoed the efforts of the first group.

The first pvp group I ever ran with in old Haderus didn't operate on having everyone moving on a dime and slotting steel tornado and purge. They operated as individual players whose skills complemented one another well, and it worked very well until that particular group leader decided to go full Big Brother and start trying to dictate everyone's every waking moment.

If people worried less about what skills to and to not use and stop snubbing players en masse because the dye on their armor isn't the right shade or they're not the right race, maybe players would act on a more united front. Just play the *** game and *** KILL the enemy! Support your ALLIES!

God_flakes

Well said Warrior!!!!! And giggle at "oil spa"

RinaldoGandolphi

@WarrioroftheWind_ESO

Well said indeed!!!

I know myself and my 6 merry men oiled a lot of EP last night at Chalman when they kept trying to battering ram the inner door down(not sure if were talking about the same siege or not)...we delayed long enough for the rest of DC to get there to join in on the fun....which they did thats for sure!

I swear some of the best fights in this game happen at Chalmo, whatever side holds that keep is pretty much guaranteed a slobberknocker!

God_flakes

There is a reason Chal is my favorite keep and when it's blue I am in a good mood.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

It happened again last night. I akf'd and when I returned, Glade and Rayles were yellow, Alma Ruma was halfway to Ash and people in zone were yelling about protecting Ales, the last Emp keep. I grabbed a few guildies and promptly went to reclaim Glade so that Ni-Mohk didn't run away like Alma. Then onto Rayles which looks so much better blue. Ash was next as it is a home keep followed by DC. I don't know if we were dethroned or not. I don't care. But I never went to Ales.

Dkill

Are we still arguing about this, i can see the level of unemployment in this community is above 15%. Lest come to terms:

DC United
- Get on Channel Command
- have good ideas
- Dont bash on your faction PUGS they are good players without a group.
- Dont think you are better than me because you are not
- Lest have a goal

Them we can think in winning campaign one more time, for now farm all that AP because winter is coming......

MountainHound

God_flakes wrote: »

MountainHound wrote: »

Simple fact, You won't beat a core team of 12 with 24 pugs, as proved tonight. I would charge in expecting them to be with me, then baaaaam half are still alive trailed back to the keep (or dead) and no where near the crowns body.

Very very very true. However, you can't build a core without kissing some frogs. Kwim? Herding and teaching pugs is draining, aggravating and time consuming. It is a selfless, often thankless task. But the gems you find in the rough are worth every minute. Some of dc's very best were once pugs and or casuals of eg, el, no mercy, etc.

And Telel, I love your last post. I appreciate your dedication to your faction. It is admirable!

I agree and we need to keep the "pugs" away from the slaughter house. It isn't fun for them to go back and back to be slaughtered by the same people.

Also, us DC need to REZ each other alot more and not say TY as soon as we get up to die again! A TY shouldn't not even be needed it should be mandatory!

Publius_Scipio

MountainHound wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

MountainHound wrote: »

Simple fact, You won't beat a core team of 12 with 24 pugs, as proved tonight. I would charge in expecting them to be with me, then baaaaam half are still alive trailed back to the keep (or dead) and no where near the crowns body.

Very very very true. However, you can't build a core without kissing some frogs. Kwim? Herding and teaching pugs is draining, aggravating and time consuming. It is a selfless, often thankless task. But the gems you find in the rough are worth every minute. Some of dc's very best were once pugs and or casuals of eg, el, no mercy, etc.

And Telel, I love your last post. I appreciate your dedication to your faction. It is admirable!

I agree and we need to keep the "pugs" away from the slaughter house. It isn't fun for them to go back and back to be slaughtered by the same people.

Also, us DC need to REZ each other alot more and not say TY as soon as we get up to die again! A TY shouldn't not even be needed it should be mandatory!

Give me the gear and the champ points and I will show DC what it really means to annihilate the EP and AD....

As far as res goes. Every DC knows that I res every single one I find that I am able to res time and time again. Even if that particular DC happens to be a clown that I have ripped into. I still res ANY and ALL DC. No one can deny me that claim. And I have been doing that since day one because that's how I operate.

God_flakes

Dkill wrote: »

Are we still arguing about this, i can see the level of unemployment in this community is above 15%. Lest come to terms:

DC United
- Get on Channel Command
- have good ideas
- Dont bash on your faction PUGS they are good players without a group.
- Dont think you are better than me because you are not
- Lest have a goal

Them we can think in winning campaign one more time, for now farm all that AP because winter is coming......

I would gladly get in command. But YOUR leader has proclaimed I am not welcome.

God_flakes

MountainHound wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

MountainHound wrote: »

Simple fact, You won't beat a core team of 12 with 24 pugs, as proved tonight. I would charge in expecting them to be with me, then baaaaam half are still alive trailed back to the keep (or dead) and no where near the crowns body.

Very very very true. However, you can't build a core without kissing some frogs. Kwim? Herding and teaching pugs is draining, aggravating and time consuming. It is a selfless, often thankless task. But the gems you find in the rough are worth every minute. Some of dc's very best were once pugs and or casuals of eg, el, no mercy, etc.

And Telel, I love your last post. I appreciate your dedication to your faction. It is admirable!

I agree and we need to keep the "pugs" away from the slaughter house. It isn't fun for them to go back and back to be slaughtered by the same people.

Also, us DC need to REZ each other alot more and not say TY as soon as we get up to die again! A TY shouldn't not even be needed it should be mandatory!

Exactly!!!! Which is why I have offered to herd pugs again like I once did. I assure you I WILL prevent them from being farmed. It sickens me to see them feed the enemy repeatedly.