If you're fed up with changes being made to things you liked...

Mandrel8

Thanks Nimander - appreciate the input.

kevlarto_ESO

I like those things to op, there many more things I like about this game than dislike that is why I am still here

Mandrel8

Excellent point kevlarto - thanks for that!

CadenceRowan

Overall, I just enjoy this game. I enjoy the Elder Scrolls world. But, to try and list some specifics:

I love the visuals - so much beautiful scenery!
I love questing and exploring.
I love the unexpected, beautiful and/or amusing things you can find as you wander around.
I love how much I can do on my own as a solo player.
It's also great that you can team up with random players for world bosses, dolmens, etc.
I love the crafting system - it is actually useful! I love the set and style options, attributes and enchantments...so customizable.
The character creation has a lot of variety - not only for how a character looks, but for preferred play style.
The differences in the environments between the maps - there are maps that I love, and maps that I don't love, but that variety really makes you notice and appreciate the places you do love.
That you can be walking down the road and meet a merchant - very handy. Saw a Khajhit merchant walking down the road in The Rift last night...Wish I could remember the name because it made me chuckle.
For the most part you can stop when you need to stop, and pick up your quests where you left off. You can run around exploring and pick up quests to come back to later.

nimander99

Mandrel8 wrote: »

Thanks Nimander - appreciate the input.

Any time Also if you add an @ in front of some ones handle you'll get a notification, kinda like this... @Mandrel8

Mandrel8

Thanks Cadence for taking the time - I agree!

Talking about Riften, I love it there! A thousand years later, when we have a house there in Skyrim, it's scabby and dilapidated and full of the er, worst sort of people. I love seeing it all shiny and new!

SirJesto

I won't list my positives because many have been listed multiple times by others here. But what I do like, I like a lot and these aspects far outweigh any negatives that I have ever encountered in this game, which is very few.

Mandrel8

That's fair enough Sir Jesto - a very reasonable point.

newtinmpls

I like the fact that there is a scruffy cat running around the EP sewers. When I get a certain character there I'm going to "rescue" her and name her scruffy cat (this is the same character who rides 'big brown horse').

Huggalump

I actually can't play other MMOs anymore because I get to the class selection system and think "WTF is this ***? If I'm a mage and I find a sword, why shouldn't I be able to use it?"

ESO has an A+ class system


EDIT: Also, the writing is amazing. It's minimal but still has character and heart. Wildstar just went free to play, but their introduction videos actually turned me off from the game. So wordy and phony.

MisterBigglesworth

1. The free-aim camera (wish it had a Zelda-style lock-on, though)
2. The graphical fidelity (but not the actual art-style)
3. Free armor dyes (WoW's transmog is better, but a gold sink)
4. Fully-voiced dialog (stories are bland, however)

That's pretty much it. Those are basically the only 4 things that set ESO apart from WOW. In fact, if World of Warcraft implemented a free-aim camera, armor dying, fully-voiced quests, and retextured/recreated a lot of their ancient art assets... well... then ESO would have literally nothing to offer me.

The Alliance War, however well-intentioned and ambitious it may have been, is riddled with performance issues. The grand experiment of allowing any class to perform any role is, in my view, an abject failure. The variety of content in PVE and PVP is severely lacking and, in the case of the group finder tool, completely broken. The minimalist UI does not properly support the game's combat mechanics, nor do it's dubious visual effects serve as a sufficient substitute for those missing UI elements. Endgame progression is a mindless grind. Itemization is simplistic. Loot acquisition is tiresome. Economy is exclusionary to casual players. Many traditional MMO social features are completely missing.

Anhedonie

1. I like Dark Flare.
2. I like Healing Ritual.
3. I like crafting system.
4. I like magicka sorcs.
5. I like veteran ranks.
6. I like zones, they are beautiful.
7. I like 4-man dungeons.
8. I like combat system.
9. I like elder scrolls.
10. I like that quest line in Rivenspire.

Farorin

I can give you a list of stuff I used to love, but as things are right now, there is really not much I love in the game anymore.

a.skelton92

MikeB wrote: »

a.skelton92 wrote: »

Great idea for a post! I agree, it is about time there was more positive threads around. And you are right, it would SEEM like there is more negativity as the MAJORITY who actually enjoy the game; are playing the game

It takes very little time to make a post. This post for instance took me less than 2 minutes. I can play and enjoy the game the same and still make a post about things I dislike. This whole "People that enjoy the game are playing it instead of posting" is a bunch of BS. Because I enjoy the game, play most days after work and a lot on the weekends, but I still have a lot of issues with the game and have time at work to make post about the things I dislike.

Okay. But thats you. And you can do what you like/ believe what you like. That's your prerogative. But what I am saying is there of MANY players who play the game (and they two come across bugs and glitches on their travels) that don't feel the need to whinge about it on the forums. They are too happy and content playing the game and know that it is too minor and rare of an occurance too upset their amazing experience they are having..

Not EVERY bug has to have an entire thread and discussion about it whenever someone accounters it. 9 times out of 10 what 'x' person is whinging about has already been reported 1000 times and has had 7 or 8 full length novels written about it.

And at the end of the day; the MAJORITY of the community could not care less what "jimmy the kid" dislikes. Yet, people feel the need to let people know anyway..

a.skelton92

Farorin wrote: »

I can give you a list of stuff I used to love, but as things are right now, there is really not much I love in the game anymore.

Ok.

kuscoe

Oh you mean like the fact that stupid people on console cant handle a re spec so everyone doesn't get the luxury anymore?

Mandrel8

@newtinmpls - yes, I love all the inexplicable stuff you come across in the oddest of places. I'm glad they bothered to do this.

Mandrel8

@Huggalump - yes, I agree, it's great we're not tied down in any way and can play the way we want.

Mandrel8

@MisterBigglesworth - hmm - positives but with provisos - half a green jelly bean then.

Mandrel8

@Anhedonie - thankyou - I agree - some of us just like the stuff we get in this game!

Mandrel8

@Farorin - so list the stuff you used to love! If you no longer love anything about your game at all, it may be time to move on.

Mandrel8

@a.skelton92 - yes, exactly, thank you! BTW I have a frost sword that produces an effect like you're talking about on your other post - there's just enough time to get a chair out and sit down before the mob shatters into ice chips!

Mandrel8

@kuscoe - yes, this is exactly the point I was originally making. I also liked the chance of a free respec and personally, found it no bother at all.

Farorin

Mandrel8 wrote: »

@Farorin - so list the stuff you used to love! If you no longer love anything about your game at all, it may be time to move on.

I used to love the exciting and fast paced fights in PVP (which have been replaced with dull, slow, and boring fights)

I used to love the alliance war (which is not even a thing anymore)

In general, I used to love PVP (which has pretty much died seeing as how our "PVP DLC" is actually just a big PVE fest with pointless PVP enabled)

I used to love group dungeons and questing (until they got so mind numbingly boring due to no good reason to do them, and no good incentive for replay ability)

I used to love playing my alts, but the grind to level cap is just the worst.

I used to love many abilities until they got nerfed to oblivion (I don't understand why they need to nerf everything even when it isn't broken. I think the solution should be to improve weak skills to allow for more options rather than make strong skills useless)

Most of all I loved and miss the community before the subscription was scrapped. After the subscription left, the toxicity of the playerbase increased a lot.


Also, I pretty much have moved on, only playing occasionally so I don't fall too far behind the curve because I am hoping it will get better despite evidence to the contrary.

Paradox

Yeah, I just quit. I browse the forums a little bit, but the devs and the community are way too separated. They don't have the slightest idea how a lot of is play or what skills are the primary issues.

They listen to a very small portion of the community.... And that portion doesn't fully understand the issues a lot of the time.. Until that issue, among many others with ZOS is fixed... I'm not coming back. It's no longer worth my time to be suffering their inability to balance and a multitude of other failures... The only thing that I could rely on when I got near quitting the game was nonvet PvP... And they basically ruined every aspect of it in the patch, with no comment on the 4 or 5 large threads about the issue.

ZoS, it's time to *** rethink some stuff internally. You won't last another year if you keep your team and game as fragmented as we all assume it is.

Mandrel8

Hi @Paradox you're on the wrong thread! There are thousands of threads where you can record your discontent but this thread is the 1 in 500 positive thread where you can record the things you love about this game. Don't get my happy thread closed down with a rage quit post!

Mandrel8

For my part, I really like that you can carry on improving skills after the main storyline - it was such a pity in Skyrim that skills were capped.

AAN2

LordSemaj wrote: »

Mandrel8 wrote: »

1000 people complain about something. The Devs look at that and say, gee, we better change that because 1000 people hated it.

That's not how the development cycle works. Every time they nerf something, it's because it was objectively strong from in-game data. You're part of a massive LIVE testing group and when they see that 90% of DKs are using a single specific ability in every situation that is killing the diversity of builds, they are likely to fix that. That's not to say some things aren't more universal than others... some of the underpowered elements are merely rarely used.

Overnerfs occur when developers change multiple strong things at once. Stamina too strong? Nerf. Blocking too strong? Nerf. Shields too strong? Nerf. Builds that rely on stamina blocking with shields are now super nerfed as a result. It's purely accidental due to the incompetence generated from 50 people working on the same game. This is multiplied when issues are outsourced because then the team working on the problem has no idea what other problems are tied to it.

Complaining on the forum does only one thing: Raise Awareness. When more people on the forum are aware of an issue, they are likely to exploit, report, or mimic it. This leads to developers seeing a rise in their reports of the issue and may even get it to become a higher priority. Complaints that are actually READ by the dev team can also directly influence this process by explaining in detail what's wrong and why it's wrong, but you better have solid reasoning if you expect this approach to even be considered.

If devs ACTUALLY listed to complaints, the games would be balanced by the trolls and you'd know it instantly. EVE Online suffers from this problem where the council had far too much control over the game.

You know, I think it would probably take you days to find a source to back this statement, whereas I have one disproving it available instantly. See thread "TALONS CC IS BLOCKABLE! Thanks ZOS!" comment #288.

Anyways the things I like about this game.

1. The multiplayer doesn't feel forced the way it does with other mmo's, if I want to kill something I usually can without having to group up with randoms.
2. The armor styles look good and I love that the colors can be changed.
3. I like the champion system because if I want to make another character I don't have to completely start from scratch.
4. I like the quests and the fact that every character is voiced.
5. I like that I can make gold from other people by genuinely providing goods and services rather than mindlessly farming for a week.
6. I like that if I feel like doing PVP and grouping with randoms, I have that option without having to join guilds.
7. I like that none of the classes feel like easy-mode in PVP.
8. I like that every bug I've come across is easily bypassed or fixable.
9. I like the giant naked dance parties that happen in Davon's Watch every couple of days.

Uriel_Nocturne

I rather like that since the console launch, I have had no desire to play any other game.

It's not that I don't have other games. It's not that I'm wallowing in self-hate because "I must grind every day!!!"

ESO:TU is just that much fun, and keeps me that deeply intrigued, that I keep coming back night after night for more. And I love every minute of it.

I rather like that my chosen Skills are ones that other people think are "n00b-ish" or are Skills that would get me greased in PvP. Maybe. But I survive pretty well as is.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I'm just out there having fun rather than trying to become the "dude-bruh-uber-overlord-Gawd-of-all-that-walks-of-PvP". I use Skills that work for me, and I have fun using those same Skills.

I like that I've explored the Ebonheart Pact to death, but still find little things in the wilderness that I've never noticed before that make me sit up and say "Cool".

I like that the flow of the game is such that I don't feel pressured to go from lvl3-VR16 in a weeks time. I can move around, explore, Quest, and level all at the pace that is fun for me.

Finally, I rather like that this game has taken my favorite genre of game (MMO's) and finally mixed it with my favorite game series ever (TES), and that the mixing of the two has gone so well IMO.

Over all, I rather like where this game is sitting.

Mandrel8

Thankyou @AAN2 I agree, except for the bit about the naked dance parties as for the last couple of weeks, every time I've been rummaging in my rucksack and then look up, there's seems to be some dude dancing naked in front of me. Different one every time - it's not like I'm being stalked!