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Changing the Nightblade ability Killers Blade.
EatUrNumNumz
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I just wanted to be the one to formally start the, "Can we change the damage from Killers Blade from magic damage, to physical damage?" thread.
I would much rather use this skill over Executioner. Which I've found isn't displaying 18% damage increase in 2h abilities on the tooltip. Intended?
Anyway, I feel any stamina morphed abilities should not be hitting and doing magic damage if it's scaling of max stamina, and weapon damage. It doesn't make sense. Please give me my physical damage Killers Blade!!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler
I'd be one happy Nightblade!!
I would much rather use this skill over Executioner. Which I've found isn't displaying 18% damage increase in 2h abilities on the tooltip. Intended?
Anyway, I feel any stamina morphed abilities should not be hitting and doing magic damage if it's scaling of max stamina, and weapon damage. It doesn't make sense. Please give me my physical damage Killers Blade!!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheelerI'd be one happy Nightblade!!
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lathbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭so you have access to a physical execute but you want to take the one from magicka nb's?
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EatUrNumNumz✭✭✭so you have access to a physical execute but you want to take the one from magicka nb's?
No, I'm not taking anything from magicka Nightblades. Impale is the morph all magicka Nightblades use as an execute. It has increased range. Where as the Killers blade morph, is a stamina morph that is based off weapon damage and max stamina.5 -
whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭EatUrNumNumz wrote: »so you have access to a physical execute but you want to take the one from magicka nb's?
No, I'm not taking anything from magicka Nightblades. Impale is the morph all magicka Nightblades use as an execute. It has increased range. Where as the Killers blade morph, is a stamina morph that is based off weapon damage and max stamina.
But of course Killers blade currently does Magicka damage.... I have always been like "Ummm yeah they need to change and fix that.."
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Stranglehands✭✭✭✭As much as I like these new stamina-burning class skills they need to come up with a more sensible approach. Thundering presence is just silly, how could you possibly use stamina to generate bolts of lightning unless you were secretly an electric eel.kcoR gnillaF si noitadnuoF esohw ETIYREP oT2 -
EatUrNumNumz✭✭✭Stranglehands wrote: »As much as I like these new stamina-burning class skills they need to come up with a more sensible approach. Thundering presence is just silly, how could you possibly use stamina to generate bolts of lightning unless you were secretly an electric eel
How can you sensibly be able to anything in a fantasy game? 3 -
kendellking_chaosb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭EatUrNumNumz wrote: »I just wanted to be the one to formally start the, "Can we change the damage from Killers Blade from magic damage, to physical damage?" thread.
I would much rather use this skill over Executioner. Which I've found isn't displaying 18% damage increase in 2h abilities on the tooltip. Intended?
Anyway, I feel any stamina morphed abilities should not be hitting and doing magic damage if it's scaling of max stamina, and weapon damage. It doesn't make sense. Please give me my physical damage Killers Blade!!@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler
I'd be one happy Nightblade!!
Made a post about this awhile ago back in May
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EatUrNumNumz✭✭✭kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »EatUrNumNumz wrote: »I just wanted to be the one to formally start the, "Can we change the damage from Killers Blade from magic damage, to physical damage?" thread.
I would much rather use this skill over Executioner. Which I've found isn't displaying 18% damage increase in 2h abilities on the tooltip. Intended?
Anyway, I feel any stamina morphed abilities should not be hitting and doing magic damage if it's scaling of max stamina, and weapon damage. It doesn't make sense. Please give me my physical damage Killers Blade!!@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler
I'd be one happy Nightblade!!
Made a post about this awhile ago back in May
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/169547/killers-blade#latest
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's thought about this for like ever.
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✭I really don't know why Killer's Blade and Power Extraction still deals magic damage with my CP I would loss 20.1% Damage and 10% armor piercing both needing Physical damage to be applied. Executioner and Steel Tornado's Physical damage make them the better choice. My class powers have FAR better affects but hey more damage and armor penetration so whip out the cookie cutter.Chaos Shadow-Scale: Shadow Archer
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✭✭✭✭✭EatUrNumNumz wrote: »Stranglehands wrote: »As much as I like these new stamina-burning class skills they need to come up with a more sensible approach. Thundering presence is just silly, how could you possibly use stamina to generate bolts of lightning unless you were secretly an electric eel
How can you sensibly be able to anything in a fantasy game?
What he means is that it is not consistent within the rules of it's own Universe, not our Universe.
And I agree. If stamina morphs are still "magical" what the heck is the difference between magicka and stamina? Within the ESO Universe stamina governs physical attacks using your body and plain old weapons.5 -
EatUrNumNumz✭✭✭EatUrNumNumz wrote: »Stranglehands wrote: »As much as I like these new stamina-burning class skills they need to come up with a more sensible approach. Thundering presence is just silly, how could you possibly use stamina to generate bolts of lightning unless you were secretly an electric eel
How can you sensibly be able to anything in a fantasy game?
What he means is that it is not consistent within the rules of it's own Universe, not our Universe.
And I agree. If stamina morphs are still "magical" what the heck is the difference between magicka and stamina? Within the ESO Universe stamina governs physical attacks using your body and plain old weapons.
I can see what you mean, but you have to remember; it's a fantasy game/series. There's not any real logic to it.0 -
BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
✭so wath about DKs and their Flame Stamina Skills?
We dont even have a execute...#makemagickadkgreataigan
#givemeaexecute
#ineedheal
#betterhotfixgrindspots0 -
13igTyme✭✭✭It still scales of Stamina, weapon damage what does it matter? Unless your using a race that gains bonus Physical damage, NONE, then why should it matter?PS4 | NA | l3igTyme
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It still scales of Stamina, weapon damage what does it matter? Unless your using a race that gains bonus Physical damage, NONE, then why should it matter?
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EatUrNumNumz✭✭✭It still scales of Stamina, weapon damage what does it matter? Unless your using a race that gains bonus Physical damage, NONE, then why should it matter?
Exactly what @code65536 said. People put CP into passives that increase physical damage. Since Killers Blade does magic damage instead of physical, this skill is not being made stronger, even though it is a stamina based ability.
@BuggeX Honestly I don't think Dragonknights NEED an execute, and I feel that their flame abilities do well already. Since most of their damage is DOT damage. I do just fine without a built in execute on my DK.0 -
tisch28✭Stranglehands wrote: »As much as I like these new stamina-burning class skills they need to come up with a more sensible approach. Thundering presence is just silly, how could you possibly use stamina to generate bolts of lightning unless you were secretly an electric eel
Shuffle those feet on carpet really fast. Burns stamina man :P2 -
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✭✭✭✭EatUrNumNumz wrote: »It still scales of Stamina, weapon damage what does it matter? Unless your using a race that gains bonus Physical damage, NONE, then why should it matter?
Exactly what @code65536 said. People put CP into passives that increase physical damage. Since Killers Blade does magic damage instead of physical, this skill is not being made stronger, even though it is a stamina based ability.
@BuggeX Honestly I don't think Dragonknights NEED an execute, and I feel that their flame abilities do well already. Since most of their damage is DOT damage. I do just fine without a built in execute on my DK.
The tool tip explains that the blade is magical.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax0 -
Suru✭✭✭✭In terms of CP and and an execute Killers blade is annoying sometimes but we have to use it even tho executioner from the 2H line is stronger because more likely than not we have more CP put into physical damage than magic damage. Usually we can't use it tho due to have are 5 pc set bonuses on DW and not on our 2H buff bar. This would be an amazing buff....maybe make soul harvest physical too..pls...zos...
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✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »EatUrNumNumz wrote: »It still scales of Stamina, weapon damage what does it matter? Unless your using a race that gains bonus Physical damage, NONE, then why should it matter?
Exactly what @code65536 said. People put CP into passives that increase physical damage. Since Killers Blade does magic damage instead of physical, this skill is not being made stronger, even though it is a stamina based ability.
@BuggeX Honestly I don't think Dragonknights NEED an execute, and I feel that their flame abilities do well already. Since most of their damage is DOT damage. I do just fine without a built in execute on my DK.
The tool tip explains that the blade is magical.
Yea Ambush is a teleportation power and Surprise Attack is a magic blade both do Physical damage
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danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭EatUrNumNumz wrote: »EatUrNumNumz wrote: »Stranglehands wrote: »As much as I like these new stamina-burning class skills they need to come up with a more sensible approach. Thundering presence is just silly, how could you possibly use stamina to generate bolts of lightning unless you were secretly an electric eel
How can you sensibly be able to anything in a fantasy game?
What he means is that it is not consistent within the rules of it's own Universe, not our Universe.
And I agree. If stamina morphs are still "magical" what the heck is the difference between magicka and stamina? Within the ESO Universe stamina governs physical attacks using your body and plain old weapons.
I can see what you mean, but you have to remember; it's a fantasy game/series. There's not any real logic to it.
Yes there is. Stamina and weapon damage is linked to physical damage. Killers blade scales of stamina and weapon damage. Therefore it is logical that is does physical damage.
The way it is now is illogical.
You seem to think logic is inherent in the real world, and absent in a game by default. It is not. Logic is simply studying a scenario and using reasoning to come to a valid conclusion.1 -
EatUrNumNumz✭✭✭EatUrNumNumz wrote: »EatUrNumNumz wrote: »Stranglehands wrote: »As much as I like these new stamina-burning class skills they need to come up with a more sensible approach. Thundering presence is just silly, how could you possibly use stamina to generate bolts of lightning unless you were secretly an electric eel
How can you sensibly be able to anything in a fantasy game?
What he means is that it is not consistent within the rules of it's own Universe, not our Universe.
And I agree. If stamina morphs are still "magical" what the heck is the difference between magicka and stamina? Within the ESO Universe stamina governs physical attacks using your body and plain old weapons.
I can see what you mean, but you have to remember; it's a fantasy game/series. There's not any real logic to it.
Yes there is. Stamina and weapon damage is linked to physical damage. Killers blade scales of stamina and weapon damage. Therefore it is logical that is does physical damage.
The way it is now is illogical.
You seem to think logic is inherent in the real world, and absent in a game by default. It is not. Logic is simply studying a scenario and using reasoning to come to a valid conclusion.
I'm just saying from that not everything is going to make sense in a fantasy game. Not saying it can't, just saying it won't always. Due to @Stranglehands saying it wasn't making sense a sorc can use Thundering Presence using stamina.0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I suppose I can spare a couple of Skill Points to check into this clearly. Will edit this post once I do.
Ok so while holding my Sword and Shield I have 834 Spell Damage and 875 Weapon Damage in my character menu. Assassin's Blade and Impale both according to tooltips do 951 Magic Damage. Killer's Blade on the other hand does 1044. It does say Magic Damage but the scaling is still proper. If anything it just means investing in Spell Penetration benefits you lol but safe to say the tooltip could be misleading you.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on September 29, 2015 5:28PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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