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Immersion vs Information
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Immersion vs Information 202 votes
Immersion
43%
87 votes
Information
56%
115 votes
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Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Please provide a little context here, I have no idea what you're getting at.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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LordSemaj✭✭✭✭✭ImmersionPlease provide a little context here, I have no idea what you're getting at.
He's likely attending the idea that the UI is barebones by default and shows almost no information to the player. This is typical of an Immersion RPG. A game like Final Fantasy where you can see the exact damage, health bars, time till your next turn, character turn order, etc is an Information RPG.1 -
DirtySmeegs33✭✭✭The information is visual rather than the standard numeric info mmo players are used to... I commend ZOS for displaying this info in a different manner. But yes, it makes it borderline impossible to min/max and to test your build. I do sympathize with old school mmo players in that regard.0
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bareheiny✭✭✭✭✭InformationI voted information...but honestly, I'd like information with a little more immersion.
Display my character name, not my PSN please and thanks.3 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭YesTenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis1 -
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✭✭InformationI'd have gone for Immersion back when I first started playing and leveling up through Tamriel, but months later, I'm quite sick of not having any knowledge of the damage I'm doing. I feel blind. I was so used to seeing my damage on games like Runescape and World of Warcraft through the years, so that's one big thing that bugs me about this game, on console.--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ImmersionImmersion because I play to enjoy playing rather than bean counting, stat comparisons and meters, etc.
It's suppose to be pick up and play vs a long drawn out calculation-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *5014 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭InformationInformation because it's an mmorpg not a rpg.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...5 -
Fruitmass✭✭✭✭InformationI prefer having the ability to see the numbers, though I would not be opposed to having options to turn such things off.Beware all ye who log on for here there be typos...2 -
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Be your true, authentic self.0 -
dustin61✭InformationI voted for information because ESO is a MMO and info is always a plus.Dal gro-Khash
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Asherons_Call✭✭✭✭✭
✭Informationgive us the ability to turn things in and off, that's all we ask. Everyone wins that way6 -
Anlaemar✭✭✭If this is in regards to adding more the the UI...
I choose "Other" because it depends on my mood. ESO is advertised as being a "freedom of choice" MMO, so it should be obvious that those who like and what to stick with the minimalist UI should be able to. We can hide helmets, horse addons (now), ect so this should not be an issue. Those of us who like see the buff timers, how much DPS we're doing, ect should also be able to.(NA) Anlaemar with 750+ Champion Points
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(EP)Nameless - Altmer Sorcerer - Secondary DPS
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MrGrimey✭✭✭✭✭Something tells me that those wanting "immersion" play on PC, because... Well, there's an add on for that0
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Anlaemar✭✭✭Something tells me that those wanting "immersion" play on PC, because... Well, there's an add on for that
Don't assume. Some people just like playing with a "immersion" feel. They shouldn't have to use an addon to remove elements just like we shouldn't have to use addons to give us much needed information.(NA) Anlaemar with 750+ Champion Points
Member Since April 15, 2014
(EP)Alrik Vadason - Nord Dragonknight
Tank
(EP)Matdasi Hlarrobar - Breton Mageblade
Formerly known as Ra'dar Ahdhari - Main DPS 40k Self Buffed
(EP)Marrec Vadason - Breton Templar Healer
(EP)Nameless - Altmer Sorcerer - Secondary DPS
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Spottswoode✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Information because it's an mmorpg not a rpg.
PNP literally requires you to have volumes of information handy. I still have cheat sheets of economic data, culture, topography, and climate information that I used for a lot of sessions. Really it all boils down to how much information you need. The UI definitely needs more customization, but the result needs to be flexible on both ends.Proud Player of The Elder Bank Screen Online.
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✭✭✭✭✭I choose Neutral.
I like immersion, but it's in the eye of the beholder. Some people considered Fast Travel in the later ES games "immersion-breaking". I'm not one of those people. How far you choose to suspend your disbelief in media rests solely on you.
However, I find it amusing when I enter a dungeon, only to follow a trail of dead bodies leading to a skyshard and ending at a small group "camping" the boss for the loot/achievement."If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."0 -
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✭✭We've been there, done that....a lot.
UI changes are coming (hopefully all that we want) SCT is coming.
They are well aware that we want it toggleable.
Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance - Socrates
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Zlater✭✭✭ImmersionI really enjoy having to find out the numbers my self, it adds a whole other level to theory crafting and testing. I really love knowing the numbers, and that's what I want. But I want to figure it out for myself, when I'm out there comparing skills, drawing graphs and tables, that's my research and I want it to stay that way unless I choose to share it with others.
If you want to know something you can go figure it out for yourself or just ask someone, thats part of the fun ^^
What I would like is to restore some of the old old API so we can create these addons instead, that would be good indeed.Ask for an invite to the greatest network of guilds ever. Redfur Trading, Redfur Exchange and Redfur Army!
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✭Both.
Options, ZOS, options....
Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
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Will it? Okay then, I choose Morrowind. It provided copious amounts of immersion and just enough information, with nice descriptive clues (sometimes a little misleading, I admit), past quest log, an aesthetically pleasing map, a minimap, buff icons and resizable menus you could lock on the screen.The question shall be treated as Morrowind vs Skyrim. Mark my words.
Skyrim had a map not showing roads, that's how informative it was.Edited by Rosveen on September 21, 2015 8:49AM2 -
NinjaApacHe✭✭✭✭ImmersionInformation is good, but if I have to make a choice I'd rather go for immersion.CP 2120+Lord Yakhin- Magicka NB - High Elf - DC Jack Templar - Stamina Templar - Dark Elf - DC Darth Morbius - Stamina Sorcerer - Dark Elf - DC Bloody Merril - Stamina Vampire NB - Redguard - DC Master Kun - Stamina DK - Redguard - DC Exarch Kun - Magicka Vampire NB - High Elf - DC Ace Bollah - Stamina Warden - Dark Elf - DC Icy Jack - Stamina Warden - Nord - DC Prior Tedas - Stamina NB - High Elf - DC 10 traits Woodworker - lvl 50 Enchanter - lvl 50 Alchemist - 10 traits Clothier & Smither - 10 traits jewelcrafterProud member of the Band of Daggers - www.bandofdaggers.eu2 -
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✭✭✭✭InformationImmersion for those who want immersion.
Information for those who want information.
Both for probably most people.1 -
Asmael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You doing PvP? You want information. Unless you're a suicidal freak.
I love suicidal freaks, mind you.
No one bats an eye in PvE, outside trials that is.
Can we have both? Yes we can. Considering the lack of addons in the console version, give the option to show more, or give consoles addon support.
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