ZOS Fix The Imperial City Dungeon Drop Rates.

EgoRush · September 2015

I haven't grinded massively in the new dungeons (probably looking at just over 20 runs of each?). I have 4 Imperium, 4 Essence Thief, 4 Combat Physician, 3 Sheer Venom, 3 Toxic Defiance, 3 Scathing Mage, 2 Spell Power Cure, 2 Leeching, 1 Shock Master, 1 Jolting, 0 Overwhelming, 0 Tormentor.

The medium armour sets I care less about are largely perfect traits (divines/infused), the light armour pieces are a mixed back and mostly reinforced/well-fitted ha. I've heard of people much luckier than me and from reading this thread I know of many less lucky.

No idea that rearming trap exploit was being used in PvE too

HIghwayRobberBill · September 2015

yea drop rates are pathetic. ive run this dungeon countless times and have gotten like 5 pieces gear from different sets. ive honestly gotten to the point where im probably going to leave the game. they render trials, dsa and old dungeons useless and theres only two things i can play to further myself in this game but after wasting my whole weekend to grinding those two new dungeons and coming up fruitless , i really dont want to even play this game.

XT4xm4nX · October 2015

I'm somewhere in between casual / hardcore player & my group is clearing WGT on average once a night. I am big on loot being hard to obtain as I like for players who put a lot of time in to have the advantage of being better geared. All that being said these drops rates are brutal. Clearing a dungeon like that should yield at least ONE set piece maybe not the one i need but one of something to justify the time it takes most groups to complete. This content is not easy and deserves some reward for completing. Many of the players with far more experience and champion points have stopped running the dungeon because the time sink is just too brutal for the payout. I/We implore you to make some adjustments.

~Tax

FireCowCommando · October 2015

XT4xm4nX wrote: »

I'm somewhere in between casual / hardcore player & my group is clearing WGT on average once a night. I am big on loot being hard to obtain as I like for players who put a lot of time in to have the advantage of being better geared. All that being said these drops rates are brutal. Clearing a dungeon like that should yield at least ONE set piece maybe not the one i need but one of something to justify the time it takes most groups to complete. This content is not easy and deserves some reward for completing. Many of the players with far more experience and champion points have stopped running the dungeon because the time sink is just too brutal for the payout. I/We implore you to make some adjustments.

~Tax

They are making these adjustments, i'm not sure what the individual pieces drop rate is, or if its 10% combined, but i know they are changing that 10% to 30%.

Little disappointed that this drop rate change has already been agreed as needed, but will not be implemented until the next DLC, Orsinium, is live.

Nifty2g · October 2015

FireCowCommando wrote: »

XT4xm4nX wrote: »

I'm somewhere in between casual / hardcore player & my group is clearing WGT on average once a night. I am big on loot being hard to obtain as I like for players who put a lot of time in to have the advantage of being better geared. All that being said these drops rates are brutal. Clearing a dungeon like that should yield at least ONE set piece maybe not the one i need but one of something to justify the time it takes most groups to complete. This content is not easy and deserves some reward for completing. Many of the players with far more experience and champion points have stopped running the dungeon because the time sink is just too brutal for the payout. I/We implore you to make some adjustments.

~Tax

They are making these adjustments, i'm not sure what the individual pieces drop rate is, or if its 10% combined, but i know they are changing that 10% to 30%.

Little disappointed that this drop rate change has already been agreed as needed, but will not be implemented until the next DLC, Orsinium, is live.

Well I went through hell getting the pieces i need and they fix the drop rate after all the players who are able to farm and clear them get all their gear.

EgoRush · October 2015

I have 3 sets completed now: Leeching, Sheer Venom, and Essence Thief, largely with ideal traits. The problem is my main is a magicka user, healer typically, and Spell Power Cure I have the worst RNG for haha. Overwhelming and Scathing Mage are the next worst...

They are increasing the drop rate because Orsinium is on our doorstep and many of the sets people cared to grind for are going to be made redundant by things like Julianos.

Well played, ZOS, you made us grind the heck out of your Imperial City content and kept us hooked there just long enough for Orsinium to hit and us to start the grind over. I'm starting to think ZOS know exactly what they are doing.

(That sounds like I'm complaining, I'm not massively bothered, I enjoy the game when I play though I'll admit things have been feeling pretty stale and dead to me without a new multi-man trial.)

Nifty2g · October 2015

Im complaining silently about how this issue was handled but meh it's in the past now

F7sus4 · October 2015

Gil.Galad wrote: »

My suggestion would not be to simply increase the drop rate on all bosses (maybe increase it a bit so you get like 1 set item per run), but to reward players for doing the hardmodes and challenges for the achievements. If WGT wasn't daily no one would do the hardmode. Why don't you give a guaranteed set item drop if you finish the dungeon doing the hardmode, or maybe 50% chance for hardmode and 50% for speedrun (so 100% if you do both), or any combination of the existing achievements (including no death runs, no spawns from the portals at the flame Atro boss, ...). The hardmodes should at least give more tokens for the trophy vaults. I could not believe it when I saw that hardmode also gave 12 tokens for the Molag Kena kill (I would expect like 50% more).

It would be a perfect idea if ESO was a single player game. But since it's an MMO, for the sake of "balance" this would only create a gear-gap between the so-called hardcore-players and casuals that are either not able to get a group with LFG finder/yelling or because they don't have enough CPs or because they have "no time to improve" or whatever excuse they can imagine. The only group that would actually receive the boost with this system is the group that is already good at the game and it's obviously the hardcore-players league.

Not that I defend casuals, since I myself probably also lean more towards the "hardcore" gamer than any other direction, but what I want to point is exactly why your idea (while really nice and interesting) will not ever be implemented.

eldermpsmithrwb17_ESO · October 2015

ZOS i have 3 v15 chars, 1 v3 and have put 100's of hours in each from launch, honestly the drop rates is what is driving me from the game, i work full time and have a family, the moment that players become too disheartened to play the game to get the gear that you want drives them away, and there are numerous threads such as this. I dont have the scores of hours to get the sets for my 4 vet chars, and so i can't be end-game competitive, struggle to get dungeon groups, struggle in pvp and forced from the game because of this. I love playing the game but if i only have an hour or so a day, there is no way i can get that gear.

RNG HAS NO PLACE IN MODERN GAMES !!

I can't even play the economy and buy the stuff, because it's all BOP.

I would rather know i had to run a dungeon XX times and be guaranteed a full set of something, or get an achievement, or spend the money in a guild store to get it. As it is i could (and have) run DSA and dungeons scores of times not to get the pieces i want. So what happens...i stop playing and stop paying, and there are more like me in the same boat.

Please consider a ticket system, BOE system or something to improve our experience. Im a loyal player but frustrated.

@ZOS_RichLambert

newtinmpls · October 2015

XT4xm4nX wrote: »

I'm somewhere in between casual / hardcore player & my group is clearing WGT on average once a night.

If you are playing every day, you are NOT casual.

I'm curious about the drop rates folks are getting for the "bits" (shards, ect) in IC?

I've not headed to the vaults (seems pointless when my highest level character is vet 4) and so far I have about 106 planar scraps, about 40-some bone shards and marks of the legion, about a dozen bloody claws and about 6 dark ethers. That's it. Oh and I was up to 14 malachite shards, but just traded 10 of them so someone could make me a glass staff (looked cool and I was a sucker to try it).

tordr86b16_ESO · October 2015

Sooooo..... @ZOS_RichLambert

Tholian1 · October 2015

newtinmpls wrote: »

XT4xm4nX wrote: »

I'm somewhere in between casual / hardcore player & my group is clearing WGT on average once a night.

If you are playing every day, you are NOT casual.

I'm curious about the drop rates folks are getting for the "bits" (shards, ect) in IC?

I've not headed to the vaults (seems pointless when my highest level character is vet 4) and so far I have about 106 planar scraps, about 40-some bone shards and marks of the legion, about a dozen bloody claws and about 6 dark ethers. That's it. Oh and I was up to 14 malachite shards, but just traded 10 of them so someone could make me a glass staff (looked cool and I was a sucker to try it).

The rate for Monstrous Teeth seems to be terrible. I get mostly husks if I am able to even loot at all.

newtinmpls · October 2015

newtinmpls wrote: »

I've not headed to the vaults (seems pointless when my highest level character is vet 4) and so far I have about 106 planar scraps, about 40-some bone shards and marks of the legion, about a dozen bloody claws and about 6 dark ethers. That's it. Oh and I was up to 14 malachite shards, but just traded 10 of them so someone could make me a glass staff (looked cool and I was a sucker to try it).

Tholian1 wrote: »

The rate for Monstrous Teeth seems to be terrible. I get mostly husks if I am able to even loot at all.

Oh dang, forgot them. I think I've got 20-something teeth.

tordr86b16_ESO · October 2015

It's so typical of ZOS to keep us hanging dry for months.

AFrostWolf · October 2015

Did an early morning run of Molag Bal and got only 4 gold coins off him. The loot in this game isn't rewarding. It needs to change.

hmr13.76preeb18_ESO · November 2015

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty, can you get overwhelming in heavy armor?

There is an item code for a medium piece so I'm unsure if it drops from vaults in medium or heavy. Lol with this drop rate I will never know.

Does normal mode give v15 only?

Yeah it does, Veteran drops VR16 loot from the trash too, unless you got time to farm 15 hours a day for 3 months I wouldn't bother trying to get it.

Well, fortunately I don't really need any of the new sets.

Some friends were trying to get me to do normal mode runs, because we don't have the skill to beat vet, and I really can't be bothered to get items that I don't need, at a lower than optimal level, and that will more than likely be a terrible trait.

Maybe once vet mode gets nerfd and if there are some itemization changes, then the sets will be worth farming.

The difficulty is fine you adapt after a few runs, but the drop rate. Fix it.

Well, that is easy for the number 1 VDSA player to say.

I if I may say so, the old player in ESO.If my memory serves me..Niffty -Nightfighter is to the Guild. You know, I'm not very good with this Guild( although there are a lot of good players)...that's apparently good people there. And the Guild leader (we will not write nick) with obvious signs of Nazism. So no respect for this Guild and their achievements. Just note - THIS is a PERSONAL OPINION!

Dymence · November 2015

hmr13.76preeb18_ESO wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty, can you get overwhelming in heavy armor?

There is an item code for a medium piece so I'm unsure if it drops from vaults in medium or heavy. Lol with this drop rate I will never know.

Does normal mode give v15 only?

Yeah it does, Veteran drops VR16 loot from the trash too, unless you got time to farm 15 hours a day for 3 months I wouldn't bother trying to get it.

Well, fortunately I don't really need any of the new sets.

Some friends were trying to get me to do normal mode runs, because we don't have the skill to beat vet, and I really can't be bothered to get items that I don't need, at a lower than optimal level, and that will more than likely be a terrible trait.

Maybe once vet mode gets nerfd and if there are some itemization changes, then the sets will be worth farming.

The difficulty is fine you adapt after a few runs, but the drop rate. Fix it.

Well, that is easy for the number 1 VDSA player to say.

I if I may say so, the old player in ESO.If my memory serves me..Niffty -Nightfighter is to the Guild. You know, I'm not very good with this Guild( although there are a lot of good players)...that's apparently good people there. And the Guild leader (we will not write nick) with obvious signs of Nazism. So no respect for this Guild and their achievements. Just note - THIS is a PERSONAL OPINION!

Was it really necessary to necro this thread just for a hate post? Lol

Personofsecrets · November 2015

hmr13.76preeb18_ESO wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty, can you get overwhelming in heavy armor?

There is an item code for a medium piece so I'm unsure if it drops from vaults in medium or heavy. Lol with this drop rate I will never know.

Does normal mode give v15 only?

Yeah it does, Veteran drops VR16 loot from the trash too, unless you got time to farm 15 hours a day for 3 months I wouldn't bother trying to get it.

Well, fortunately I don't really need any of the new sets.

Some friends were trying to get me to do normal mode runs, because we don't have the skill to beat vet, and I really can't be bothered to get items that I don't need, at a lower than optimal level, and that will more than likely be a terrible trait.

Maybe once vet mode gets nerfd and if there are some itemization changes, then the sets will be worth farming.

The difficulty is fine you adapt after a few runs, but the drop rate. Fix it.

Well, that is easy for the number 1 VDSA player to say.

I if I may say so, the old player in ESO.If my memory serves me..Niffty -Nightfighter is to the Guild. You know, I'm not very good with this Guild( although there are a lot of good players)...that's apparently good people there. And the Guild leader (we will not write nick) with obvious signs of Nazism. So no respect for this Guild and their achievements. Just note - THIS is a PERSONAL OPINION!

I have no idea what you mean and how it relates to my old comment, but I will add that the current drop rates still seem really bad.

hmr13.76preeb18_ESO · November 2015

Was it really necessary to necro this thread just for a hate post? Lol ----No, no hate ))) just tired of advertising No. 1 in the World..sorry.

PaddingtonBear · November 2015

drop rates still *** in icp/wgt

Nifty2g · November 2015

hmr13.76preeb18_ESO wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Nifty, can you get overwhelming in heavy armor?

There is an item code for a medium piece so I'm unsure if it drops from vaults in medium or heavy. Lol with this drop rate I will never know.

Does normal mode give v15 only?

Yeah it does, Veteran drops VR16 loot from the trash too, unless you got time to farm 15 hours a day for 3 months I wouldn't bother trying to get it.

Well, fortunately I don't really need any of the new sets.

Some friends were trying to get me to do normal mode runs, because we don't have the skill to beat vet, and I really can't be bothered to get items that I don't need, at a lower than optimal level, and that will more than likely be a terrible trait.

Maybe once vet mode gets nerfd and if there are some itemization changes, then the sets will be worth farming.

The difficulty is fine you adapt after a few runs, but the drop rate. Fix it.

Well, that is easy for the number 1 VDSA player to say.

I if I may say so, the old player in ESO.If my memory serves me..Niffty -Nightfighter is to the Guild. You know, I'm not very good with this Guild( although there are a lot of good players)...that's apparently good people there. And the Guild leader (we will not write nick) with obvious signs of Nazism. So no respect for this Guild and their achievements. Just note - THIS is a PERSONAL OPINION!

I read this over about 5 times and don't understand

Gilliamtherogue · November 2015

hmr13.76preeb18_ESO wrote: »

Was it really necessary to necro this thread just for a hate post? Lol ----No, no hate ))) just tired of advertising No. 1 in the World..sorry.

Being #1 in world = a na.zi

You heard it here first folks.

Pahebe · April 2016

After 4 months and few days* of grinding vWGT, I had my very first piece of SPC.
Thank you ZOS.

Nifty2g · April 2016

Pahebe wrote: »

After 4 months and few days* of grinding vWGT, I had my very first piece of SPC.
Thank you ZOS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wldE_4xjVQ

SienneYviete · April 2016

Ran these two hundreds of times, still chasing scathing mage, seriously ZOS the drop rates in these two dungeons still suck a*$

Praetorrus · April 2016

Drop rates are beyond ridiculous there. For months I'm farming vWGT and vICP and have never got a single drop of Spell Power Cure gloves or gloves of Scathing Mage. At this point I don't even dream about divine trait but I need gloves and I cannot get them from any of my 5 vr16 characters.

ZOS, pls, such things as random, low chance BoP drops are what demotivates players hardest. Because no matter who you are and no matter how hard you try it may never drop just because RNG.

Since you started selling dungeons sets in Cyro, pls, place a vendor instead of chest in IC dungeons. Let it sell all the parts of BoP sets with all the traits, and make it worth like 500 or 1000 shards or whatever you feel like, I don't care, just let us have a guaranteed piece of gear after all the hours invested in these dungeons.

DRXHarbinger · April 2016

SienneYviete wrote: »

Ran these two hundreds of times, still chasing scathing mage, seriously ZOS the drop rates in these two dungeons still suck a*$

You know scathing only drops in ICP right? Sounds like you're running both for it.

SienneYviete · April 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

SienneYviete wrote: »

Ran these two hundreds of times, still chasing scathing mage, seriously ZOS the drop rates in these two dungeons still suck a*$

You know scathing only drops in ICP right? Sounds like you're running both for it.

Seriously though the drop rates in both dungeons are bad.

Pahebe · April 2016

*necromancer* This really need some attention from ZOS. Double "hmm" is not enough.

DinOwned · April 2016

Drop rates in the entire game are atrocious. Remove BoP = problem solved. People who don't want certain sets can sell to those looking to complete a set and earn a fair amount of gold.