Why do people need to be so annoying in this game

eNumbra

Arthur_Spoonfondle wrote: »

There are people like you in all walks of life, they are called [snip].

You seem upset.

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Mondrely

Vigarr wrote: »

I agree about the chests but I can't stand when grinders feel like they own an area and questers be damned because grinders were there first.

I can't either. I went into Cyrodiil to get some skyshards the other day and went into a delve. Two people in there were claiming that the spot was taken. Last I checked, those were public dungeons.

Mitchblue

UrQuan wrote: »

Mitchblue wrote: »

How do they know you want that chest? Maybe they wait and then someone else walks by and takes chest? If it's there you take it..

If someone is fighting something right by a chest you leave the chest for them. Always. Only if they explicitly tell you to take it do you go and take it. If you go and grab it while they're fighting then you haven't done anything against the TOS, and you can't be reported for griefing or anything, but you are a ***.

Sometimes I'm fighting and don't even realize there's a chest. If the guys fighting on top of a chest, okay.. close by, I might leave it because I'm not a big chest hunter, but what's suppose to be the radius that it's okay to take a chest? Is there some rule book?

Thecapeo

uwamerlynn_ESO wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

I agree about the chests but I can't stand when grinders feel like they own an area and questers be damned because grinders were there first.

I can't either. I went into Cyrodiil to get some skyshards the other day and went into a delve. Two people in there were claiming that the spot was taken. Last I checked, those were public dungeons.

LOL! Taken!?! Hence I never have voice chat on. Wouldn't know and couldn't care less if someone is mad at me.

Muizer

Grinding is bad behaviour too, when it's done in a place where people are trying to enjoy legit content. I get annoyed when I'm questing in some area and encounter someone or a group grinding. They should just go away when they notice other people are around, but instead they often keep running in circles dragging mobs about so they can kill em all at once. But then I think

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Mighty_oakk

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I'll kill a group of mobs and instead of helping me so random will run and get the chest.... same when i'm getting mats people just ignore other people.

If someone dies instead of reviving them most people just walk away, i don't see why the 121 gold it'll cost you for a gem isn't exactly going to break your finances..

The worst is by far when your grinding, 4 of us will hapily be doing a rotation, waiting until there grouped up so everyone can get a hit in... you just being normal.

Some random kid who is there to grind themselves obviously will start single hitting stuff, spliting the groups of mobs, pulling down everyone exp and gaining no exp for themselves... why? whats the point? you literally need to touch a mob once to get the full exp.

Is this the same on xbox or pc or did us on ps4 just get all the 12 yr old kids?

If im questing and some grinders are messing up my quest their grind is gonna be gettin messed up when im done

Mitchblue

Muizer wrote: »

Grinding is bad behaviour too, when it's done in a place where people are trying to enjoy legit content. I get annoyed when I'm questing in some area and encounter someone or a group grinding. They should just go away when they notice other people are around, but instead they often keep running in circles dragging mobs about so they can kill em all at once. But then I think

I like to one shoot them, before I take off, so I can get mine. If he's pulling all my targets I'm going to get some XP for it.

DaveMoeDee

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I'll kill a group of mobs and instead of helping me so random will run and get the chest.... same when i'm getting mats people just ignore other people.

If someone dies instead of reviving them most people just walk away, i don't see why the 121 gold it'll cost you for a gem isn't exactly going to break your finances..

The worst is by far when your grinding, 4 of us will hapily be doing a rotation, waiting until there grouped up so everyone can get a hit in... you just being normal.

Some random kid who is there to grind themselves obviously will start single hitting stuff, spliting the groups of mobs, pulling down everyone exp and gaining no exp for themselves... why? whats the point? you literally need to touch a mob once to get the full exp.

Is this the same on xbox or pc or did us on ps4 just get all the 12 yr old kids?

I agree with you on the taking chests or mats complaint.

I have no problem with some random person killing mobs. Why should they care about someone trying to do organized grinding? I would actually take their side on that. They are just killing what they see. In fact, they might actually be questing in that area and the people grinding are the nuisance while the solo person is just trying to do the content at their level.

Any why would I revive some random person who died? They can revive themselves if they want. Not my fault if they were too cheep to spend the 121 gold to stock up on gems before going out.

DaveMoeDee

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DaveMoeDee

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

People have many varying opinions of what constitutes bad sportsmanship. I rez people all the time. Sometimes I'll use 20 gems in a day but the rest of your complaints I really don't agree with. No one owns a chest and no one owns a grind spot.

I know no one owns anything but why would they bother to purposly annoy other people for no benefit to them selves at all?

They aren't trying to annoy anyone. They are trying to get mats, chests, and xp.

The world doesn't revolve around you.

leepalmer95

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

People have many varying opinions of what constitutes bad sportsmanship. I rez people all the time. Sometimes I'll use 20 gems in a day but the rest of your complaints I really don't agree with. No one owns a chest and no one owns a grind spot.

I know no one owns anything but why would they bother to purposly annoy other people for no benefit to them selves at all?

They aren't trying to annoy anyone. They are trying to get mats, chests, and xp.

The world doesn't revolve around you.

How do you know their no trying to annoy people? , they know people are grinding, there grinding themselves and instead of just joining the rotation to everyone gets max exp there purposely messing it up by splitting the mobs and single targeting things down?

Who said anything about the world revolving around me? this is 1 person annoying the many.

Mighty_oakk wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I'll kill a group of mobs and instead of helping me so random will run and get the chest.... same when i'm getting mats people just ignore other people.

If someone dies instead of reviving them most people just walk away, i don't see why the 121 gold it'll cost you for a gem isn't exactly going to break your finances..

The worst is by far when your grinding, 4 of us will hapily be doing a rotation, waiting until there grouped up so everyone can get a hit in... you just being normal.

Some random kid who is there to grind themselves obviously will start single hitting stuff, spliting the groups of mobs, pulling down everyone exp and gaining no exp for themselves... why? whats the point? you literally need to touch a mob once to get the full exp.

Is this the same on xbox or pc or did us on ps4 just get all the 12 yr old kids?

If im questing and some grinders are messing up my quest their grind is gonna be gettin messed up when im done

How exactly do grinders mess up your quest? Killing things doesn't mess up your quest?

Thymos

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

People have many varying opinions of what constitutes bad sportsmanship. I rez people all the time. Sometimes I'll use 20 gems in a day but the rest of your complaints I really don't agree with. No one owns a chest and no one owns a grind spot.

I know no one owns anything but why would they bother to purposly annoy other people for no benefit to them selves at all?

They aren't trying to annoy anyone. They are trying to get mats, chests, and xp.

The world doesn't revolve around you.

That's how I feel.

It's not like there are no chests that have no mobs guarding them, or even crafting materials. I was looking into finding chests, so I went straight for it, regardless of you fighting the mob 5 feet away.

One fun thing I recently discovered is that you can drag mobs to right next to another player trying to do some fishing, and just hold block until the mob does an AOE that hits the fisherman, then skip away and lose aggro. It happened to me, that's how i know.

Also, if I do get into a tangle with a mob when I was going for a chest, oh well if I am not the one who gets it. I don't get mad or annoyed, it's first come first serve and I accept that.

UrQuan

Mitchblue wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Mitchblue wrote: »

How do they know you want that chest? Maybe they wait and then someone else walks by and takes chest? If it's there you take it..

If someone is fighting something right by a chest you leave the chest for them. Always. Only if they explicitly tell you to take it do you go and take it. If you go and grab it while they're fighting then you haven't done anything against the TOS, and you can't be reported for griefing or anything, but you are a ***.

Sometimes I'm fighting and don't even realize there's a chest. If the guys fighting on top of a chest, okay.. close by, I might leave it because I'm not a big chest hunter, but what's suppose to be the radius that it's okay to take a chest? Is there some rule book?

If you have to ask about "rules" and what the radius is, then that says something about you. It's not about rules. It's about doing what's right.

leepalmer95

afgncaap7 wrote: »

Why can't you revive yourself? "The 121 gold it'll cost you for a gem isn't exactly going to break your finances.."

who said anything about me being dead? i always revive myself though i don't die in pve only sometimes during a VDSA or if i make a mistake in vet pledges. i'm on about in the starting areas or such when the new people are running around light attacking everything to death and the high vets who are collection stuff or such just ignore them. 5 seconds of your time makes the game a lot less stressful for people.

Tholian1

leepalmer95 wrote: »

How exactly do grinders mess up your quest? Killing things doesn't mess up your quest?

They may not be messing up the quests, but they are killing the experience. It would be nice to have a few enemies left to fight between quest objectives, rather than just a trail of bodies.

Thymos

Tholian1 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

How exactly do grinders mess up your quest? Killing things doesn't mess up your quest?

They may not be messing up the quests, but they are killing the experience. It would be nice to have a few enemies left to fight between quest objectives, rather than just a trail of bodies.

Then we drop back to this idea: you want a solo experience, play a solo game.

leepalmer95

Tholian1 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

How exactly do grinders mess up your quest? Killing things doesn't mess up your quest?

They may not be messing up the quests, but they are killing the experience. It would be nice to have a few enemies left to fight between quest objectives, rather than just a trail of bodies.

So your mad about people killing mobs because you want to kill them?

Theres only a certain amount of valid grind spots per faction, big wow maybe once a zone you'll see some people grinding, grinding is a part of the game too believe it or not.

Mitchblue

UrQuan wrote: »

Mitchblue wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Mitchblue wrote: »

How do they know you want that chest? Maybe they wait and then someone else walks by and takes chest? If it's there you take it..

If someone is fighting something right by a chest you leave the chest for them. Always. Only if they explicitly tell you to take it do you go and take it. If you go and grab it while they're fighting then you haven't done anything against the TOS, and you can't be reported for griefing or anything, but you are a ***.

Sometimes I'm fighting and don't even realize there's a chest. If the guys fighting on top of a chest, okay.. close by, I might leave it because I'm not a big chest hunter, but what's suppose to be the radius that it's okay to take a chest? Is there some rule book?

If you have to ask about "rules" and what the radius is, then that says something about you. It's not about rules. It's about doing what's right.

First of all, If I'm going towards a chest or a node and someone else is running towards from the other way but I'm closer I'll just stop and let them have it. I don't care that much about it. That's the kind of player I am.

2nd, you need to chill and move on.

traigusb14_ESO2

Tholian1 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

How exactly do grinders mess up your quest? Killing things doesn't mess up your quest?

They may not be messing up the quests, but they are killing the experience. It would be nice to have a few enemies left to fight between quest objectives, rather than just a trail of bodies.

There are also spots so camped they make the area unstable.
Greenshade zombies on Xbox are crazy (for EP). Just trying to go through to finish quests can lag and crash you.

UrQuan

leepalmer95 wrote: »

How exactly do grinders mess up your quest? Killing things doesn't mess up your quest?

Depends on the quest. There are multiple quests where as part of the quest you have to kill a certain number of a certain type of mob in an area. If people are grinding in the area that can be an exercise in frustration. There are also multiple quests where you have to retrieve one or more items from mobs in the area. If there are grinders in the area that can also be an exercise in frustration. There are also multiple quests where you have to hurt a particular mob just enough to make them vulnerable to an amulet or something else that you have to use on them - but not enough to kill them. If people are grinding in the area that can make the quest flat-out impossible.

Tholian1

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

How exactly do grinders mess up your quest? Killing things doesn't mess up your quest?

They may not be messing up the quests, but they are killing the experience. It would be nice to have a few enemies left to fight between quest objectives, rather than just a trail of bodies.

So your mad about people killing mobs because you want to kill them?

Theres only a certain amount of valid grind spots per faction, big wow maybe once a zone you'll see some people grinding, grinding is a part of the game too believe it or not.

Just to be clear, I meant the experience of the gameplay and not the XP. Grinders tend to turn quests into nothing more than running from objective A to objective B for the questers.

DaveMoeDee

leepalmer95 wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

People have many varying opinions of what constitutes bad sportsmanship. I rez people all the time. Sometimes I'll use 20 gems in a day but the rest of your complaints I really don't agree with. No one owns a chest and no one owns a grind spot.

I know no one owns anything but why would they bother to purposly annoy other people for no benefit to them selves at all?

They aren't trying to annoy anyone. They are trying to get mats, chests, and xp.

The world doesn't revolve around you.

How do you know their no trying to annoy people? , they know people are grinding, there grinding themselves and instead of just joining the rotation to everyone gets max exp there purposely messing it up by splitting the mobs and single targeting things down?

Who said anything about the world revolving around me? this is 1 person annoying the many.

Mighty_oakk wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I'll kill a group of mobs and instead of helping me so random will run and get the chest.... same when i'm getting mats people just ignore other people.

If someone dies instead of reviving them most people just walk away, i don't see why the 121 gold it'll cost you for a gem isn't exactly going to break your finances..

The worst is by far when your grinding, 4 of us will hapily be doing a rotation, waiting until there grouped up so everyone can get a hit in... you just being normal.

Some random kid who is there to grind themselves obviously will start single hitting stuff, spliting the groups of mobs, pulling down everyone exp and gaining no exp for themselves... why? whats the point? you literally need to touch a mob once to get the full exp.

Is this the same on xbox or pc or did us on ps4 just get all the 12 yr old kids?

If im questing and some grinders are messing up my quest their grind is gonna be gettin messed up when im done

How exactly do grinders mess up your quest? Killing things doesn't mess up your quest?

For example, quests were you need to kill mobs to get a particular dropped item. Or quests where you need to weaken mobs and then do something to them. If they die, you can't do that.

I have no sympathy for grinders when someone running around questing kills some mobs. It is the grinders who are disrupting the flow of the game, not the person killing whatever he sees in the zone where he is currently questing.

This is one person annoying you because you are trying to tell other people how to play. You are getting annoyed because of your unrealistic expectations. Just because you grouped up doesn't make a zone yours. And it isn't like group up is even recognizable for people not in your group.

leepalmer95

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

People have many varying opinions of what constitutes bad sportsmanship. I rez people all the time. Sometimes I'll use 20 gems in a day but the rest of your complaints I really don't agree with. No one owns a chest and no one owns a grind spot.

I know no one owns anything but why would they bother to purposly annoy other people for no benefit to them selves at all?

They aren't trying to annoy anyone. They are trying to get mats, chests, and xp.

The world doesn't revolve around you.

How do you know their no trying to annoy people? , they know people are grinding, there grinding themselves and instead of just joining the rotation to everyone gets max exp there purposely messing it up by splitting the mobs and single targeting things down?

Who said anything about the world revolving around me? this is 1 person annoying the many.

Mighty_oakk wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I'll kill a group of mobs and instead of helping me so random will run and get the chest.... same when i'm getting mats people just ignore other people.

If someone dies instead of reviving them most people just walk away, i don't see why the 121 gold it'll cost you for a gem isn't exactly going to break your finances..

The worst is by far when your grinding, 4 of us will hapily be doing a rotation, waiting until there grouped up so everyone can get a hit in... you just being normal.

Some random kid who is there to grind themselves obviously will start single hitting stuff, spliting the groups of mobs, pulling down everyone exp and gaining no exp for themselves... why? whats the point? you literally need to touch a mob once to get the full exp.

Is this the same on xbox or pc or did us on ps4 just get all the 12 yr old kids?

If im questing and some grinders are messing up my quest their grind is gonna be gettin messed up when im done

How exactly do grinders mess up your quest? Killing things doesn't mess up your quest?

For example, quests were you need to kill mobs to get a particular dropped item. Or quests where you need to weaken mobs and then do something to them. If they die, you can't do that.

I have no sympathy for grinders when someone running around questing kills some mobs. It is the grinders who are disrupting the flow of the game, not the person killing whatever he sees in the zone where he is currently questing.

This is one person annoying you because you are trying to tell other people how to play. You are getting annoyed because of your unrealistic expectations. Just because you grouped up doesn't make a zone yours. And it isn't like group up is even recognizable for people not in your group.

Why do you think that i think the zone is mine? did you not read Op it's when other grinders mess with the rotation and they obviously know what their doing.

Grinding is a part of the game too, grinding has been a major part of any mmorpg since they were invented. Just because someone is doing a quest doesn't mean they get priority over everyone else.

Also grinders do rotations and for quests were you need to get dropped items you literally need to touch a mob once, just any random aoe will do the quest for you. Also most grind spots and grind a specific part of an area with the most spawn rates, there is a lot more to an area that grinders don't even bother killing.

Scyantific

Muizer wrote: »

Grinding is bad behaviour too, when it's done in a place where people are trying to enjoy legit content. I get annoyed when I'm questing in some area and encounter someone or a group grinding. They should just go away when they notice other people are around, but instead they often keep running in circles dragging mobs about so they can kill em all at once. But then I think

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Hey you doofus, some of us get tired of going through the content the 4th time around.

Grinding has always been a part of MMOs, this must be your first rodeo if you think "HURR DURR I'M ENTITLED TO AN ENTIRE AREA FOR MYSELF, SCREW THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GRIND"

People like you would get torn apart in other MMOs

THEDKEXPERIENCE

leepalmer95 wrote: »

afgncaap7 wrote: »

Why can't you revive yourself? "The 121 gold it'll cost you for a gem isn't exactly going to break your finances.."

who said anything about me being dead? i always revive myself though i don't die in pve only sometimes during a VDSA or if i make a mistake in vet pledges. i'm on about in the starting areas or such when the new people are running around light attacking everything to death and the high vets who are collection stuff or such just ignore them. 5 seconds of your time makes the game a lot less stressful for people.

So you're complaining that as a high ranked character new players are ruining things for you in the starting areas? The entitlement is strong in this one.

leepalmer95

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

afgncaap7 wrote: »

Why can't you revive yourself? "The 121 gold it'll cost you for a gem isn't exactly going to break your finances.."

who said anything about me being dead? i always revive myself though i don't die in pve only sometimes during a VDSA or if i make a mistake in vet pledges. i'm on about in the starting areas or such when the new people are running around light attacking everything to death and the high vets who are collection stuff or such just ignore them. 5 seconds of your time makes the game a lot less stressful for people.

So you're complaining that as a high ranked character new players are ruining things for you in the starting areas? The entitlement is strong in this one.

Can you even read.... -_-

I was talking about people not reviving people in that part, if you care to read. You said revive yourself, i said what about the new players in starting zones who die because their learning the basics, you see high vets and such ignore them or such and while yes they can ignore them, 121 gold for a high vet isn't much and if they revive them it can make the game seem a lot friendlier to a new player and such.

You've literally read one line of this entire thread and are just looking to make a argument of anything, if your incapable of reading and discussing go troll another thread.

UrQuan

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Grinding is a part of the game too, grinding has been a major part of any mmorpg since they were invented. Just because someone is doing a quest doesn't mean they get priority over everyone else.

Actually, if it's an area where there are quests that require you to kill certain mobs, or get items from certain mobs, or damage certain mobs to a point (but not kill them) then yes, someone doing a quest in the area does get priority. If you're grinding and you don't give them priority in that situation then you're being a selfish ***.

In other situations it's first come first serve. Questers don't get priority over grinders, and grinders don't get priority over questers.

Thecapeo

Where do you buy grand soul gems for 121? Because that's all vets are carrying.

Moonscythe

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leepalmer95

UrQuan wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Grinding is a part of the game too, grinding has been a major part of any mmorpg since they were invented. Just because someone is doing a quest doesn't mean they get priority over everyone else.

Actually, if it's an area where there are quests that require you to kill certain mobs, or get items from certain mobs, or damage certain mobs to a point (but not kill them) then yes, someone doing a quest in the area does get priority. If you're grinding and you don't give them priority in that situation then you're being a selfish ***.

In other situations it's first come first serve. Questers don't get priority over grinders, and grinders don't get priority over questers.

I don't recall any grinding area that i know off that interfere with quests like that, the ones i know are just side quests because it has weak, fast respawning mobs.