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Lets have an offical Nerf Nb thread.

  • Cyrediath
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    Please don't nerf my NB :s. I love playing as a magicka NB being able to crit a group with a 17k-20k proxy is great not to mention being able to heal yourself and allies. Truthfully I prefer NB over DK

    school me... How do you get a 17-20k proxy det off a magicka NB?

    duel wield, stack spelldmg, get 20% spelldmg buff, cast relentless focus, done ^^

    mage guild passive?

    Yea nightblades hits much with mages guild passive and detonation lets nerf nightblade.
  • xXNesTXx
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    We have a frustrated templar over here!

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    Edited by xXNesTXx on August 21, 2015 1:08PM
    EU PS4 Ebonheart Pact

    NB Stam VR16 Breton
    NB Stam VR16 Khajiit
    NB Mag VR16 Breton
    Templar Mag VR16 Nord
    Sorc Mag VR8 High Elf
    DK Stam VR10 Red Guard
  • WyldfireWyrm
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    xXNesTXx wrote: »
    We have a frustrated templar over here!

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    Actually, he mains a DK, so I have no idea why he's complaining. DKs easily have the best survivability tools in the game.
  • lolzbuckets
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    xXNesTXx wrote: »
    We have a frustrated templar over here!

    18317509.jpg

    Actually, he mains a DK, so I have no idea why he's complaining. DKs easily have the best survivability tools in the game.

    He's complaining because he sucks at PvP and refuses to admit that maybe the issue is with him, not with everybody else in Cyrodiil.

    Thought we were clear on that much. :P
  • leepalmer95
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    xXNesTXx wrote: »
    We have a frustrated templar over here!

    18317509.jpg

    Actually, he mains a DK, so I have no idea why he's complaining. DKs easily have the best survivability tools in the game.

    He's complaining because he sucks at PvP and refuses to admit that maybe the issue is with him, not with everybody else in Cyrodiil.

    Thought we were clear on that much. :P

    How do you know i suck at pvp? , trying running a class apart from the most op and see how you do ^^
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • leepalmer95
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    Cyrediath wrote: »
    Please don't nerf my NB :s. I love playing as a magicka NB being able to crit a group with a 17k-20k proxy is great not to mention being able to heal yourself and allies. Truthfully I prefer NB over DK

    school me... How do you get a 17-20k proxy det off a magicka NB?

    duel wield, stack spelldmg, get 20% spelldmg buff, cast relentless focus, done ^^

    mage guild passive?

    Yea nightblades hits much with mages guild passive and detonation lets nerf nightblade.

    i was mentioning the fact whoever posted the magicka det doing 17k forgot to add he proc'd it with mage guild passive.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • lolzbuckets
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    xXNesTXx wrote: »
    We have a frustrated templar over here!

    18317509.jpg

    Actually, he mains a DK, so I have no idea why he's complaining. DKs easily have the best survivability tools in the game.

    He's complaining because he sucks at PvP and refuses to admit that maybe the issue is with him, not with everybody else in Cyrodiil.

    Thought we were clear on that much. :P

    How do you know i suck at pvp? , trying running a class apart from the most op and see how you do ^^

    Because of the data you cite. It's all either mathematically flawed or based on the premise that everybody plays the same way you do.

    Thing is, from the way you've described what kills you in PvP, most of the issues you're having could be easily rectified by having the correct skills on your bar, using them at the correct time, and knowing what to expect from opposing classes and how to counter it.

    To shorten that sentence, most of your problems in PvP could be rectified by you playing better.

    In previous posts, you've described yourself making a bunch of rookie mistakes and getting killed because of them, but when someone pointed out your mistake and told you how to avoid it in the future, you went off on them and said that the problem was [insert thing that killed me], not [insert way to survive thing that I did not do].

    Over and over you've done this. The problem isn't nightblades; it's you.

  • lolzbuckets
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    Also, no. I'm gonna stick with my nightblade. It suits my playstyle. I like being a squishy assassin, partly *because* it makes protracted fights with tanks difficult and adrenaline-fueled.

    At no point do I ever complain that DKs are OP when they reflect a 10k snipe back at me for an easy kill. I learn to cancel my snipe when I see their wings, or else I learn to dodge roll before I get hit.
  • capnbinky
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    I wish nobody ever got nerfed. I love the idea of all builds having options for extreme abilities. NBs SHOULD be able to gank you if they get the drop on you alone, and they should have advantages to getting the drop on you.

    Sorcs should be able to use magic to move faster and do tremendous elemental damage to you.

    Dragonknights should be very, very hard to kill or do phenomal fire damage.

    Templars should be able to call shiny doom on everyone.

    And I say that as someone who has been killed by all of these plenty of times.
  • lolzbuckets
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    capnbinky wrote: »
    I wish nobody ever got nerfed. I love the idea of all builds having options for extreme abilities. NBs SHOULD be able to gank you if they get the drop on you alone, and they should have advantages to getting the drop on you.

    Sorcs should be able to use magic to move faster and do tremendous elemental damage to you.

    Dragonknights should be very, very hard to kill or do phenomal fire damage.

    Templars should be able to call shiny doom on everyone.

    And I say that as someone who has been killed by all of these plenty of times.

    Exactly. This is what I've been saying from the start.

    Only thing I think needs tuning is when one class is incredibly more powerful than every other class even when individual skill is entirely removed from the equation, and right now, that is just not remotely the case.
  • bowmanz607
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    capnbinky wrote: »
    I wish nobody ever got nerfed. I love the idea of all builds having options for extreme abilities. NBs SHOULD be able to gank you if they get the drop on you alone, and they should have advantages to getting the drop on you.

    Sorcs should be able to use magic to move faster and do tremendous elemental damage to you.

    Dragonknights should be very, very hard to kill or do phenomal fire damage.

    Templars should be able to call shiny doom on everyone.

    And I say that as someone who has been killed by all of these plenty of times.

    Exactly. This is what I've been saying from the start.

    Only thing I think needs tuning is when one class is incredibly more powerful than every other class even when individual skill is entirely removed from the equation, and right now, that is just not remotely the case.

    Agree with both of u
  • WyldfireWyrm
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    capnbinky wrote: »
    I wish nobody ever got nerfed. I love the idea of all builds having options for extreme abilities. NBs SHOULD be able to gank you if they get the drop on you alone, and they should have advantages to getting the drop on you.

    Sorcs should be able to use magic to move faster and do tremendous elemental damage to you.

    Dragonknights should be very, very hard to kill or do phenomal fire damage.

    Templars should be able to call shiny doom on everyone.

    And I say that as someone who has been killed by all of these plenty of times.

    Exactly. This is what I've been saying from the start.

    Only thing I think needs tuning is when one class is incredibly more powerful than every other class even when individual skill is entirely removed from the equation, and right now, that is just not remotely the case.

    But let's face it....when developers make patches, they cater to the minority who whine like this about any small issue because they are the least understanding and their most likely to leave the game, which costs them potential future financial income. So the devs make changes to keep them in the game and spending money because the rest of the gamer population will be understanding about any changes or at least tolerate the changes without leaving.

    And thank you for clarifying the problem for me earlier. Not sure why it didn't come to me sooner. :wink:
  • Strider_Roshin
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    I stopped reading when you started discussing ambush. Critical Rush hits harder, and ambush doesn't stun players. That one sentence proved to me that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Nightblades. Also currently sorcerers are the most OP class in Cyrodiil.
  • lolzbuckets
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    I stopped reading when you started discussing ambush. Critical Rush hits harder, and ambush doesn't stun players. That one sentence proved to me that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Nightblades. Also currently sorcerers are the most OP class in Cyrodiil.

    Honestly though, I still prefer Ambush, because while it doesn't hit as hard and isn't a guaranteed crit, it has no minimum distance requirement, it's not hindered by terrain, and it relocates you instantly, meaning that no amount of reflexes on the part of the sorc you're chasing will let them get out of range before you hit them.

    Also, it's fun to read his nonsense. I legit made a bag of popcorn after reading the first couple posts to eat while I read the rest. I have never *actually* done that before. XD
  • lolzbuckets
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    capnbinky wrote: »
    I wish nobody ever got nerfed. I love the idea of all builds having options for extreme abilities. NBs SHOULD be able to gank you if they get the drop on you alone, and they should have advantages to getting the drop on you.

    Sorcs should be able to use magic to move faster and do tremendous elemental damage to you.

    Dragonknights should be very, very hard to kill or do phenomal fire damage.

    Templars should be able to call shiny doom on everyone.

    And I say that as someone who has been killed by all of these plenty of times.

    Exactly. This is what I've been saying from the start.

    Only thing I think needs tuning is when one class is incredibly more powerful than every other class even when individual skill is entirely removed from the equation, and right now, that is just not remotely the case.

    But let's face it....when developers make patches, they cater to the minority who whine like this about any small issue because they are the least understanding and their most likely to leave the game, which costs them potential future financial income. So the devs make changes to keep them in the game and spending money because the rest of the gamer population will be understanding about any changes or at least tolerate the changes without leaving.

    And thank you for clarifying the problem for me earlier. Not sure why it didn't come to me sooner. :wink:

    Any time. I hate to see reasonable people get bent out of shape by wrong-headedness. You should be participating in this debate for entertainment value, because there's no winning an argument with him.
  • bowmanz607
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    I stopped reading when you started discussing ambush. Critical Rush hits harder, and ambush doesn't stun players. That one sentence proved to me that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Nightblades. Also currently sorcerers are the most OP class in Cyrodiil.

    I think the use is a matter of opinion and playstyle. Crit rush hits harder, but ambush can be used in stealth, gives u bonus damage and has no minimum distance. Not to mention can be used on any bar.I always slot ambush over the other. But that is just my playstyle.
  • lolzbuckets
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    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    I stopped reading when you started discussing ambush. Critical Rush hits harder, and ambush doesn't stun players. That one sentence proved to me that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Nightblades. Also currently sorcerers are the most OP class in Cyrodiil.

    I think the use is a matter of opinion and playstyle. Crit rush hits harder, but ambush can be used in stealth, gives u bonus damage and has no minimum distance. Not to mention can be used on any bar.I always slot ambush over the other. But that is just my playstyle.

    Oh yeah! I forgot that you couldn't critical charge from stealth. Also that.

    But his point was more in reference to the OP's comments about how Ambush was such a hard hitting gap closer, when the numbers he proceeded to cite were ones that you'd struggle to reach with Critical Rush.

    Though if you got off an Ambush on the rear aspect from stealth, his numbers might actually be possible. Once. Not spammably. Which...yeah, OP isn't very good at arguing.
  • Baronh2o
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    Just so you know cloak isn't getting BUFFED next patch it's getting FIXED. It was bugged where single target abilities executed after the time stamp of cloak execution was still hitting the NB, doing damage, and knocking the NB out of cloak.

    Devs have already confirmed that it's not working as intended, it was broken forever, and finally will be fixed.

    Cry more.
    Edited by Baronh2o on August 21, 2015 9:03PM
    "Not all who wander are lost." - Tolkien

  • leepalmer95
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    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    I stopped reading when you started discussing ambush. Critical Rush hits harder, and ambush doesn't stun players. That one sentence proved to me that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Nightblades. Also currently sorcerers are the most OP class in Cyrodiil.

    I think the use is a matter of opinion and playstyle. Crit rush hits harder, but ambush can be used in stealth, gives u bonus damage and has no minimum distance. Not to mention can be used on any bar.I always slot ambush over the other. But that is just my playstyle.

    Oh yeah! I forgot that you couldn't critical charge from stealth. Also that.

    But his point was more in reference to the OP's comments about how Ambush was such a hard hitting gap closer, when the numbers he proceeded to cite were ones that you'd struggle to reach with Critical Rush.

    Though if you got off an Ambush on the rear aspect from stealth, his numbers might actually be possible. Once. Not spammably. Which...yeah, OP isn't very good at arguing.

    It's pointless to argue with a bunch of nb bandwagoners who specifically made nb's just for this next patch,

    your entire arguement is sorc have shields or sorc are stronger or my favourite 'L2P'

    You still go on like dk's or templars are in the same league as nb's in pvp.

    Just keep telling yourself your a good pvper when you kill that templar and it's your skill doing it, not the fact you class casually 2 hits people.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • lolzbuckets
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    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    I stopped reading when you started discussing ambush. Critical Rush hits harder, and ambush doesn't stun players. That one sentence proved to me that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Nightblades. Also currently sorcerers are the most OP class in Cyrodiil.

    I think the use is a matter of opinion and playstyle. Crit rush hits harder, but ambush can be used in stealth, gives u bonus damage and has no minimum distance. Not to mention can be used on any bar.I always slot ambush over the other. But that is just my playstyle.

    Oh yeah! I forgot that you couldn't critical charge from stealth. Also that.

    But his point was more in reference to the OP's comments about how Ambush was such a hard hitting gap closer, when the numbers he proceeded to cite were ones that you'd struggle to reach with Critical Rush.

    Though if you got off an Ambush on the rear aspect from stealth, his numbers might actually be possible. Once. Not spammably. Which...yeah, OP isn't very good at arguing.

    It's pointless to argue with a bunch of nb bandwagoners who specifically made nb's just for this next patch,
    Some people replying to you don't main, or even play, Nightblades. They even told you so, but that only matters if you actually read what they say.
    your entire arguement is sorc have shields or sorc are stronger or my favourite 'L2P'
    Nobody ever made that argument. At all. We DID say that sorcs are stronger and more versatile than NBs in general in PvP, because...that is true. They deal at least comparable damage, they have much more survivability, and they have a more effective and non-broken escape. In PvP, they get the best of everything.
    You still go on like dk's or templars are in the same league as nb's in pvp.
    Nobody said that, either. We pretty much all said that, if we *had* to pick a single class that was strongest, it would be sorc or nightblade, but that any comparison like that was pretty stupid, because various builds of various classes have sort of a rock-paper-scissors relationship with various other builds of various other classes. Also, your assertion that nightblades are OP is based entirely on the fact that you suck at fighting against nightblades as a dragonknight. That's a pretty weak position to start from, especially when you deny that it's the place you're starting from. THAT just makes you look like a lunatic.

    Just keep telling yourself your a good pvper when you kill that templar and it's your skill doing it, not the fact you class casually 2 hits people.
    Actually, if I ever two-shot somebody, I'm gonna say "holy ***, that templar was squishy as hell. That *never* happens." Because it..it really doesn't. lol

    END

    Nobody but you ever actually said any of those things.

    You know what? Going back and editing in a point-by-point breakdown, because this post was short and I'm watching TV. :P
    Edited by lolzbuckets on August 21, 2015 9:26PM
  • WyldfireWyrm
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    Baronh2o wrote: »
    Just so you know cloak isn't getting BUFFED next patch it's getting FIXED. It was bugged where single target abilities executed after the time stamp of cloak execution was still hitting the NB, doing damage, and knocking the NB out of cloak.

    Devs have already confirmed that it's not working as intended, it was broken forever, and finally will be fixed.

    Cry more.

    Thank you!
    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    I stopped reading when you started discussing ambush. Critical Rush hits harder, and ambush doesn't stun players. That one sentence proved to me that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Nightblades. Also currently sorcerers are the most OP class in Cyrodiil.

    I think the use is a matter of opinion and playstyle. Crit rush hits harder, but ambush can be used in stealth, gives u bonus damage and has no minimum distance. Not to mention can be used on any bar.I always slot ambush over the other. But that is just my playstyle.

    Oh yeah! I forgot that you couldn't critical charge from stealth. Also that.

    But his point was more in reference to the OP's comments about how Ambush was such a hard hitting gap closer, when the numbers he proceeded to cite were ones that you'd struggle to reach with Critical Rush.

    Though if you got off an Ambush on the rear aspect from stealth, his numbers might actually be possible. Once. Not spammably. Which...yeah, OP isn't very good at arguing.

    It's pointless to argue with a bunch of nb bandwagoners who specifically made nb's just for this next patch,

    your entire arguement is sorc have shields or sorc are stronger or my favourite 'L2P'

    You still go on like dk's or templars are in the same league as nb's in pvp.

    Just keep telling yourself your a good pvper when you kill that templar and it's your skill doing it, not the fact you class casually 2 hits people.

    I don't have a Nightblade and never will. I've already said I don't like the class from a playstyle standpoint. So you're wrong that everyone who disagrees with you is on the "nightblade bandwagon".

    Sorcs are the stronger of the two classes in PVP. And the more people who disagree with you that sees you respond in ignorance, the more you convince everyone that it is a L2P problem.

    I can't kill DKs without at least one other friend or unless I get lucky and the DK screws up. But I can kill a Nightblade by myself if I play my class correctly. I'm pretty sure that makes DKs and Templars strong as well (I main a templar healer).
  • AfkNinja
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    How about we stop balancing the game with nerfs and instead balance the game with buffs....
  • Cyrediath
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    bowmanz607 wrote: »
    I stopped reading when you started discussing ambush. Critical Rush hits harder, and ambush doesn't stun players. That one sentence proved to me that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Nightblades. Also currently sorcerers are the most OP class in Cyrodiil.

    I think the use is a matter of opinion and playstyle. Crit rush hits harder, but ambush can be used in stealth, gives u bonus damage and has no minimum distance. Not to mention can be used on any bar.I always slot ambush over the other. But that is just my playstyle.

    Oh yeah! I forgot that you couldn't critical charge from stealth. Also that.

    But his point was more in reference to the OP's comments about how Ambush was such a hard hitting gap closer, when the numbers he proceeded to cite were ones that you'd struggle to reach with Critical Rush.

    Though if you got off an Ambush on the rear aspect from stealth, his numbers might actually be possible. Once. Not spammably. Which...yeah, OP isn't very good at arguing.

    It's pointless to argue with a bunch of nb bandwagoners who specifically made nb's just for this next patch,
    Some people replying to you don't main, or even play, Nightblades. They even told you so, but that only matters if you actually read what they say.
    your entire arguement is sorc have shields or sorc are stronger or my favourite 'L2P'
    Nobody ever made that argument. At all. We DID say that sorcs are stronger and more versatile than NBs in general in PvP, because...that is true. They deal at least comparable damage, they have much more survivability, and they have a more effective and non-broken escape. In PvP, they get the best of everything.
    You still go on like dk's or templars are in the same league as nb's in pvp.
    Nobody said that, either. We pretty much all said that, if we *had* to pick a single class that was strongest, it would be sorc or nightblade, but that any comparison like that was pretty stupid, because various builds of various classes have sort of a rock-paper-scissors relationship with various other builds of various other classes. Also, your assertion that nightblades are OP is based entirely on the fact that you suck at fighting against nightblades as a dragonknight. That's a pretty weak position to start from, especially when you deny that it's the place you're starting from. THAT just makes you look like a lunatic.

    Just keep telling yourself your a good pvper when you kill that templar and it's your skill doing it, not the fact you class casually 2 hits people.
    Actually, if I ever two-shot somebody, I'm gonna say "holy ***, that templar was squishy as hell. That *never* happens." Because it..it really doesn't. lol

    END

    Nobody but you ever actually said any of those things.

    You know what? Going back and editing in a point-by-point breakdown, because this post was short and I'm watching TV. :P

    Couldnt aggree more
  • leepalmer95
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    How about we stop balancing the game with nerfs and instead balance the game with buffs....

    The only thing needed to balance the game is a few tweaks to certain skills, not an entire pvp overhall or a 50% reduction etc...

    Zos logic, if someone is broken nerf everything.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • WyldfireWyrm
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    How about we stop balancing the game with nerfs and instead balance the game with buffs....

    The only thing needed to balance the game is a few tweaks to certain skills, not an entire pvp overhall or a 50% reduction etc...

    Zos logic, if someone is broken nerf everything.

    So you agree with that line of logic? You've stated that your particular experience has been bad against nightblades when most everyone else has no issue, so you want the class skills to be nerfed. I'm pretty sure you complained about some sorc and weapon abilities as well. If that line of twisted logic works, then I am definitely going to start my own thread to complain about all the class and skill lines except werewolf. Maybe they will feel good to play again once 95% of the other players' experiences turns to total garbage.
    Edited by WyldfireWyrm on August 22, 2015 3:20AM
  • hardcore_gmr
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    I am not going to comment about whether nightblades need a nerf, the idea is beyond justification of a respoense, but I will say that we've (the ESO community) has had this style of conversation before. Only then the conversation was about nerfing Dragon knights and reflective scale, and I wonder how many names that appear here to defend nightblades are names that would have appeared then to cry to nerf DK's and their class only skill. You see this is the Pandora's box that ZOS opened when they thought it prudent to start nerfing player builds because other players complained that another class was using a class only skill effectively.

    This seems only the beginning, there will be more threads that detail how effectively using ones class skill is "OP". First it was DK, now its nightblade's (especially as more players start to see the power of a sustain magicka build) next Sorcs, someone will learn to play Templar really well and then their will be a post about nerfing them, and around and around we'll go, but never will the accuser say, "I got beat, I need to play better." There will always be another skill, reflective scale, fear, cloak, frag, radiant oppression....anything that when used effectively that creates distance between good players and bad players will be considered OP and ZOS will pander to the lowest common denominator and there will be nerfs.

    Now I'm not saying the game especially PvP is perfect but I think, WE as players need to accept that balance cannot exist in a game where playstyle and skill matter just as much as whats on your bar. Until then. this and other threads will continue and this game and community will be no better for it.

    That is all!
  • leepalmer95
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    How about we stop balancing the game with nerfs and instead balance the game with buffs....

    The only thing needed to balance the game is a few tweaks to certain skills, not an entire pvp overhall or a 50% reduction etc...

    Zos logic, if someone is broken nerf everything.

    So you agree with that line of logic? You've stated that your particular experience has been bad against nightblades when most everyone else has no issue, so you want the class skills to be nerfed. I'm pretty sure you complained about some sorc and weapon abilities as well. If that line of twisted logic works, then I am definitely going to start my own thread to complain about all the class and skill lines except werewolf. Maybe they will feel good to play again once 95% of the other players' experiences turns to total garbage.

    go ahead, they nerfed dk's to near uselessness, because reflect was op or such. Though i wasn't around then.

    I'm really trying to let this thread die, too many people have joined the nb bandwagon already and now defend them because they've already leveled one for IC.

    My personal opinion is that nb's are op, no other class even comes close to the burst dmg they do.

    Now can you just go away, your not exactly doing anything in this thread, just throwing l2p and sorc are op around and throwing sarcasm as a way to ignore the actual topic.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • WyldfireWyrm
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    How about we stop balancing the game with nerfs and instead balance the game with buffs....

    The only thing needed to balance the game is a few tweaks to certain skills, not an entire pvp overhall or a 50% reduction etc...

    Zos logic, if someone is broken nerf everything.

    So you agree with that line of logic? You've stated that your particular experience has been bad against nightblades when most everyone else has no issue, so you want the class skills to be nerfed. I'm pretty sure you complained about some sorc and weapon abilities as well. If that line of twisted logic works, then I am definitely going to start my own thread to complain about all the class and skill lines except werewolf. Maybe they will feel good to play again once 95% of the other players' experiences turns to total garbage.

    go ahead, they nerfed dk's to near uselessness, because reflect was op or such. Though i wasn't around then.

    I'm really trying to let this thread die, too many people have joined the nb bandwagon already and now defend them because they've already leveled one for IC.

    My personal opinion is that nb's are op, no other class even comes close to the burst dmg they do.

    Now can you just go away, your not exactly doing anything in this thread, just throwing l2p and sorc are op around and throwing sarcasm as a way to ignore the actual topic.

    I won't deny the sarcasm part. I'm a very sarcastic person. But I feel I've contributed quite a bit to this thread. I know you don't think that is true because I've disagreed with you, but I've contributed nonetheless.

    There is no doubt that the nightblade is bursty. It's what they were made for. But if you can survive the first 5 seconds of their assault, their burst drops off and you can open up on them because of their lack of shields and heals. However, your arguments against stamina are unnecessary because they are already first in line for the upcoming nerf bat. And magicka has fear and cloak as their primary survival skills (not dps skills), but lack a lot of burst capability. Magicka sorcs have more burst than magicka nightblades, both now and in the upcoming patch.
  • RavenSworn
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    Gosh this is still up? Why are we feeding it again? IT GROWS. Nothing is going to change his thoughts, not even after clearly breaking down each of his points.

    Putting multiple cloaking and ambush together.. Laughable. Im guessing because most Magicka nightblade maintain their teleport strike, which while does lesser damage, does stun a player. But they are not bursty at all.

    And if we do talk about Ambush, Stamina players get so much from it but not able to really run away with multiple cloak because of their laughable magicka pool to be able to even hit that much. But hey! nerf nerf nerf nerf.

    Kinda reminds me of old school WoW when every one was having so much problems with Rogues stun lock but I have so much fun killing them in turn because i took my time to learn what can counteracts with the stealth issue.

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  • lolzbuckets
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    Gosh this is still up? Why are we feeding it again? IT GROWS. Nothing is going to change his thoughts, not even after clearly breaking down each of his points.

    Because drinking his tears keeps me young.
    Edited by lolzbuckets on August 22, 2015 2:40PM
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