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☆ Nirnhoned For Inferno Staff ☆

SirNoodles309
Can anyone help with possible drop locations for the trait nirnhoned. I wish to equip it to an inferno staff for my mage build. Many thanks Sir Noodles - Ebonheart - XBox1 - Europe.
  • Caesar Tantalia
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    Upper Claglorn - harvest void wood/rocks and plants.

    Do note that you have to research it first. So either send your rock to someone who can craft and then you research or buy an item in the guild store and research it yourself.
  • SirNoodles309
    Upper Claglorn - harvest void wood/rocks and plants.

    Do note that you have to research it first. So either send your rock to someone who can craft and then you research or buy an item in the guild store and research it yourself.

    Does nirnhoned drop on item's anywhere? Cheers for help dude
  • Caesar Tantalia
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    Upper Claglorn - harvest void wood/rocks and plants.

    Do note that you have to research it first. So either send your rock to someone who can craft and then you research or buy an item in the guild store and research it yourself.

    Does nirnhoned drop on item's anywhere? Cheers for help dude

    Not that I'm aware off, you get 1 item as a reward for a crag quest (can't remember which one)

  • SirNoodles309
    If anyone can advise me on which guild store is the best for getting hold of an inferno staff with the nirnhoned trait on it my gamertag is XcombatgnomeX many thanks.
  • Allyhoo811
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    If anyone can advise me on which guild store is the best for getting hold of an inferno staff with the nirnhoned trait on it my gamertag is XcombatgnomeX many thanks.

    There is really no way to know what guilds have stocked at any give time, I would start by looking at the traders in the best locations (capital cities or Rwal'kha). You would be most likely to find it in a guild that has players who are Veteran Rank and have done the Craglorn quests...So I would just assume that the guilds that can afford the best locations also have the highest leveled players (and probably a lot of PC transfers). But any guild could potentially have a nirnhoned inferno staff for sale.
  • SirNoodles309
    Cheers dude my search continues!
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    To get access to nirn:

    Do all main quests in lower Craglorn, then go do all main quests in upper Craglorn. You'll get 1 nirnhooned item for the end quest in Upper craggie as reward, and you can put that item for research or sell.

    Nirncrux stones are farmed in all of craglorn, from harvesting raw materials..... however it is rare. Doing surveys from crafting writs increases your chance to get a nirncrux, however even that is rare.
    (Some mobs in upper craglorn drop nirnhooned items, and bosses in all of craglorn drop nirncrux, but this is the hardest way of getting it, it is soooooo rare that it will never pay off the hard grind. Do not do this, it is slow and stupid. )

    Note: there are 2 types of nirncrux: Potent Nirncrux (for weapons) and Fortified Nirncrux (for armor).
  • Caesar Tantalia
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    To get access to nirn:

    Do all main quests in lower Craglorn, then go do all main quests in upper Craglorn. You'll get 1 nirnhooned item for the end quest in Upper craggie as reward, and you can put that item for research or sell.

    Nirncrux stones are farmed in all of craglorn, from harvesting raw materials..... however it is rare. Doing surveys from crafting writs increases your chance to get a nirncrux, however even that is rare.
    (Some mobs in upper craglorn drop nirnhooned items, and bosses in all of craglorn drop nirncrux, but this is the hardest way of getting it, it is soooooo rare that it will never pay off the hard grind. Do not do this, it is slow and stupid. )

    Note: there are 2 types of nirncrux: Potent Nirncrux (for weapons) and Fortified Nirncrux (for armor).

    They don't drop in all areas of craglorn yet - only upper crag and only by harvesting the ones I listed earlier. They are changing the drop zone in a later patch to entire crag though.

  • SirNoodles309
    To get access to nirn:

    They don't drop in all areas of craglorn yet - only upper crag and only by harvesting the ones I listed earlier. They are changing the drop zone in a later patch to entire crag though.

    Can i start questing there or do i need to finish cadwells gold first?
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    They don't drop in all areas of craglorn yet - only upper crag and only by harvesting the ones I listed earlier. They are changing the drop zone in a later patch to entire crag though.

    But I have found nirn many times in middle areas of craglorn, and my friend even got a nirncrux once from the alligator boss in Hircines Haunt.


    You can enter Craglorn if you're veteran. That means lvl50/v1 and up. It is completely independant of Cadwell's Almanac.

    The quest for Craglorn starts on the bridge near Elden Root for Aldmeri Dominion players, I don't know about the other factions, but my guess would be in the capital cities ...such as Mournhold in Deshaan for Ebonheart Pact and Wayrest in Stormhaven for Daggerfall Covernant.
  • Caesar Tantalia
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    They don't drop in all areas of craglorn yet - only upper crag and only by harvesting the ones I listed earlier. They are changing the drop zone in a later patch to entire crag though.

    But I have found nirn many times in middle areas of craglorn, and my friend even got a nirncrux once from the alligator boss in Hircines Haunt.


    You can enter Craglorn if you're veteran. That means lvl50/v1 and up. It is completely independant of Cadwell's Almanac.

    The quest for Craglorn starts on the bridge near Elden Root for Aldmeri Dominion players, I don't know about the other factions, but my guess would be in the capital cities ...such as Mournhold in Deshaan for Ebonheart Pact and Wayrest in Stormhaven for Daggerfall Covernant.

    There is no middle craglorn. You have upper and lower and ZOS stated themselves that Nirn only drops in upper crag. This is exactly what they are going to change in the next patch. So perhaps you were in upper crag ...

  • SirNoodles309
    Cheers for all the help chaps.
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    They don't drop in all areas of craglorn yet - only upper crag and only by harvesting the ones I listed earlier. They are changing the drop zone in a later patch to entire crag though.
    "Upper Craglorn" was introducted much later than Lower Craglorn, yet I have found more nirncrux in Lower Craglorn.
    There is no middle craglorn. You have upper and lower and ZOS stated themselves that Nirn only drops in upper crag. This is exactly what they are going to change in the next patch. So perhaps you were in upper crag ...
    omg.. print out a map of craglorn, sit down with a pen and a ruler and do some simple elementary math, it shouldn't be that hard to understand? ...right? ...?

    Midsection of Craglorn is part of Lower Craglorn, not Upper Craglorn. Hircines Haunt came with release of Craglorn, and my friend looted a nirncrux from the boss in there.
  • Caesar Tantalia
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    They don't drop in all areas of craglorn yet - only upper crag and only by harvesting the ones I listed earlier. They are changing the drop zone in a later patch to entire crag though.
    "Upper Craglorn" was introducted much later than Lower Craglorn, yet I have found more nirncrux in Lower Craglorn.
    There is no middle craglorn. You have upper and lower and ZOS stated themselves that Nirn only drops in upper crag. This is exactly what they are going to change in the next patch. So perhaps you were in upper crag ...
    omg.. print out a map of craglorn, sit down with a pen and a ruler and do some simple elementary math, it shouldn't be that hard to understand? ...right? ...?

    Midsection of Craglorn is part of Lower Craglorn, not Upper Craglorn. Hircines Haunt came with release of Craglorn, and my friend looted a nirncrux from the boss in there.

    You keep trying - don't you ...

    Check this - from Deltias website - tomorrow, I'll start listing official sources if you like (not on my pc right now).

    http://deltiasgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Nirncrux-Farming-Location-Map.jpg

    "Harvesting Node PictureThere is one place to find Nirnhoned and that is Upper Craglorn. Here’s my highly sophisticated map indicating the only spot you can find it. You obtain Nirn by gathering materials in Upper Craglorn. Basically any materials. Your normal ones, blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking, enchanting, etc. The current drop rate is unknown, but speculation suggests 1:500 for a Nirn and 1:4 Fortified to Potent (unconfirmed). You also don’t have to wait until max level to start farming. As soon as you complete the main story and reach Veteran Rank one you will have access to Upper Craglorn and the story quest. So start farming nodes! Speaking off nodes, there are a couple of not so known ways to obtain Nirn through “drops.” "
  • Mojmir
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    They don't drop in all areas of craglorn yet - only upper crag and only by harvesting the ones I listed earlier. They are changing the drop zone in a later patch to entire crag though.
    "Upper Craglorn" was introducted much later than Lower Craglorn, yet I have found more nirncrux in Lower Craglorn.
    There is no middle craglorn. You have upper and lower and ZOS stated themselves that Nirn only drops in upper crag. This is exactly what they are going to change in the next patch. So perhaps you were in upper crag ...
    omg.. print out a map of craglorn, sit down with a pen and a ruler and do some simple elementary math, it shouldn't be that hard to understand? ...right? ...?

    Midsection of Craglorn is part of Lower Craglorn, not Upper Craglorn. Hircines Haunt came with release of Craglorn, and my friend looted a nirncrux from the boss in there.

    You keep trying - don't you ...

    Check this - from Deltias website - tomorrow, I'll start listing official sources if you like (not on my pc right now).

    http://deltiasgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Nirncrux-Farming-Location-Map.jpg

    "Harvesting Node PictureThere is one place to find Nirnhoned and that is Upper Craglorn. Here’s my highly sophisticated map indicating the only spot you can find it. You obtain Nirn by gathering materials in Upper Craglorn. Basically any materials. Your normal ones, blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking, enchanting, etc. The current drop rate is unknown, but speculation suggests 1:500 for a Nirn and 1:4 Fortified to Potent (unconfirmed). You also don’t have to wait until max level to start farming. As soon as you complete the main story and reach Veteran Rank one you will have access to Upper Craglorn and the story quest. So start farming nodes! Speaking off nodes, there are a couple of not so known ways to obtain Nirn through “drops.” "

    ive got nirncrux from lower crag, in the minimap addon i have is shows a dotted redline as a separator for the 2, this was definitley lower where i found it, and i dont believe deltia's stuff 100%.
  • Caesar Tantalia
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    They don't drop in all areas of craglorn yet - only upper crag and only by harvesting the ones I listed earlier. They are changing the drop zone in a later patch to entire crag though.
    "Upper Craglorn" was introducted much later than Lower Craglorn, yet I have found more nirncrux in Lower Craglorn.
    There is no middle craglorn. You have upper and lower and ZOS stated themselves that Nirn only drops in upper crag. This is exactly what they are going to change in the next patch. So perhaps you were in upper crag ...
    omg.. print out a map of craglorn, sit down with a pen and a ruler and do some simple elementary math, it shouldn't be that hard to understand? ...right? ...?

    Midsection of Craglorn is part of Lower Craglorn, not Upper Craglorn. Hircines Haunt came with release of Craglorn, and my friend looted a nirncrux from the boss in there.

    You keep trying - don't you ...

    Check this - from Deltias website - tomorrow, I'll start listing official sources if you like (not on my pc right now).

    http://deltiasgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Nirncrux-Farming-Location-Map.jpg

    "Harvesting Node PictureThere is one place to find Nirnhoned and that is Upper Craglorn. Here’s my highly sophisticated map indicating the only spot you can find it. You obtain Nirn by gathering materials in Upper Craglorn. Basically any materials. Your normal ones, blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking, enchanting, etc. The current drop rate is unknown, but speculation suggests 1:500 for a Nirn and 1:4 Fortified to Potent (unconfirmed). You also don’t have to wait until max level to start farming. As soon as you complete the main story and reach Veteran Rank one you will have access to Upper Craglorn and the story quest. So start farming nodes! Speaking off nodes, there are a couple of not so known ways to obtain Nirn through “drops.” "

    ive got nirncrux from lower crag, in the minimap addon i have is shows a dotted redline as a separator for the 2, this was definitley lower where i found it, and i dont believe deltia's stuff 100%.

    I agree that the info is not 100% and after some research, I have to agree to some people have nirn drops in lower crag but these are very exceptional and for me - almost seem to be an error in coding.

    Look it up for yourself - also look at the patch notes for pts. Why is zos changing the drop zone to include lower crag if it already frequently dropped there? It doesn't ...

    The only way to consistently find nirn is farm in upper crag (which will change soon).

    Edit - spelling
    Edited by Caesar Tantalia on August 16, 2015 11:34PM
  • Allyhoo811
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    They don't drop in all areas of craglorn yet - only upper crag and only by harvesting the ones I listed earlier. They are changing the drop zone in a later patch to entire crag though.
    "Upper Craglorn" was introducted much later than Lower Craglorn, yet I have found more nirncrux in Lower Craglorn.
    There is no middle craglorn. You have upper and lower and ZOS stated themselves that Nirn only drops in upper crag. This is exactly what they are going to change in the next patch. So perhaps you were in upper crag ...
    omg.. print out a map of craglorn, sit down with a pen and a ruler and do some simple elementary math, it shouldn't be that hard to understand? ...right? ...?

    Midsection of Craglorn is part of Lower Craglorn, not Upper Craglorn. Hircines Haunt came with release of Craglorn, and my friend looted a nirncrux from the boss in there.

    You keep trying - don't you ...

    Check this - from Deltias website - tomorrow, I'll start listing official sources if you like (not on my pc right now).

    http://deltiasgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Nirncrux-Farming-Location-Map.jpg

    "Harvesting Node PictureThere is one place to find Nirnhoned and that is Upper Craglorn. Here’s my highly sophisticated map indicating the only spot you can find it. You obtain Nirn by gathering materials in Upper Craglorn. Basically any materials. Your normal ones, blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking, enchanting, etc. The current drop rate is unknown, but speculation suggests 1:500 for a Nirn and 1:4 Fortified to Potent (unconfirmed). You also don’t have to wait until max level to start farming. As soon as you complete the main story and reach Veteran Rank one you will have access to Upper Craglorn and the story quest. So start farming nodes! Speaking off nodes, there are a couple of not so known ways to obtain Nirn through “drops.” "

    ive got nirncrux from lower crag, in the minimap addon i have is shows a dotted redline as a separator for the 2, this was definitley lower where i found it, and i dont believe deltia's stuff 100%.

    I agree that the info is not 100% and after some research, I have to agree to some people have nirn drops in lower crag but these are very exceptional and for me - almost seem to be an error in coding.

    Look it up for yourself - also look at the patch notes for pts. Why is zos changing the drop zone to include lower crag if it already frequently dropped there? It doesn't ...

    The only way to consistently find nirn is farm in upper crag (which will change soon).

    Edit - spelling

    Are the people who are finding nirncrux frequently in Lower Craglorn playing on console? I remember reading somewhere that console players had already gotten the patch that increased frequency/allows it to drop in Lower Craglorn. I know PC players won't get it until the IC patch, but I feel like console folks already have this change. Can't remember where I saw it, and I could be totally misremembering...but that might explain the difference.

  • Maphusail
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    Upper Claglorn - harvest void wood/rocks and plants.

    And plants? Are you sure? Seems it can only be obtained from blacksmithing, clothing and woodworking materials.
  • Sithisvoid
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    Nirncrux drops but the nirnhoned trait you only get once per character for completing the craglorn storyline, and you get a random piece.
  • Caesar Tantalia
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    Maphusail wrote: »
    Upper Claglorn - harvest void wood/rocks and plants.

    And plants? Are you sure? Seems it can only be obtained from blacksmithing, clothing and woodworking materials.

    yes voidbloom - very certain about it - it has been my main source of nirncrux

    Edit - sorry I see your point. Voidbloom for me is a plant but not an alchemy one. So yes, only resource for black/cloth (light/voidbloom // medium those cows) and wood

    Edited by Caesar Tantalia on August 17, 2015 3:08PM
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    I play only in PC EU server.

    Well this game is not perfect. Maybe the drop rate for nirn is much higher in upper craglorn, and I have just been lucky to find waaay more nirncrux in the midsection of the map, which is counted as Lower Craglorn. My friends have found nirnhooned traited items from mobs in Upper Craglorn, and nirncrux from bosses in dungeons.
    You keep trying - don't you ...

    I am not here because I like talking against you. I am commenting out of my own experiences.
  • Caesar Tantalia
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    I play only in PC EU server.

    Well this game is not perfect. Maybe the drop rate for nirn is much higher in upper craglorn, and I have just been lucky to find waaay more nirncrux in the midsection of the map, which is counted as Lower Craglorn. My friends have found nirnhooned traited items from mobs in Upper Craglorn, and nirncrux from bosses in dungeons.
    You keep trying - don't you ...

    I am not here because I like talking against you. I am commenting out of my own experiences.

    nirnhooned traited items from mobs? Are you sure? This has never happened to me and I'm starting to wonder if these drops are bugged (either for you or for me).

    Re the "keep trying ' - Apologies, that was rude.

    However - to continue the debate - below some random quotes. Also see the quote where X asked about the change in Nirn drop on Consoles and Gina's response to that ...
    arowz wrote: »
    Nirncrux drops only from void bloom/nightwood/voidstone nodes in upper craglorn. I've heard the chatter about welwas dropping nirn, but I've slaughtered hundreds and no such luck.

    Rich nodes for void bloom/nightwood/voidstone from surveys have a chance of dropping nirncrux no matter where they are located.

    Alchemy/Enchanting nodes do not drop nirncrux.

    In my experience, I've been getting 2-3 nirncrux a day after serious farming. Somewhere along the lines of 200-300 of each of raw wood/ore/bloom nets 2-3 nirncrux.

    Potent Nirncrux has been extremely rare, with me only receiving 2 total.

    Survey nodes appear to me to be the highest chance of dropping a nirncrux, with my personal experience being a 50% chance to get a nirncrux for each survey I complete, with that being a 50% chance to get a nirncrux on one and only one of any of the nodes created via the survey.
    Cavedog wrote: »
    I couldn't find this information anywhere, and I'm pretty sure it's accurate. At any rate, the strategy is working well for me.

    So here is how and why I'm doing so good at farming crux. First off, if you don't already know, the ONLY place to get crux is in Northern Craglorn. Keep in mind that shadowhide is also a material that counts and could lead to a crux drop, so some beasts can lead to a crux drop too. All crafting material nodes can drop crux.

    Ok, so there is a given drop rate for crux. I think the drop rate for crux is right about 1 crux for every 500 units of materials harvested, give or take 100. I don't know what the exact drop rate is for crux, but let's call it X to keep with basic algebra notation. So, since voidbloom nodes typically drop the most units of the material, usually 5-7 units, then the liklihood of getting a crux at a voidbloom node is 5 to 7 times X. Nightwood is the second best, with an average of 4-6 units of material per node, so the liklihood of getting a crux is 4 to 6 times X at a nightwood node. Voidstone averages 3-4 units per node, so 3-4X at a voidstone node. And finally, enchanting and alchemy nodes average 1-2 units per node, so liklihood of getting a crux at those nodes is the least, at 1-2 times X.

    So, the take home message is focus on voidbloom, nightwood, then voidstone, in that order, and you will maximize your crux farming effort. A really fast horse and darting from valuable nodes and ignoring the enchanting and alchemy nodes seems to work best, especially when N. Craglorn is crowded with farmers. (basically, I suggest farming only in off peak times. Combat farming sucks)

    And finally, if you have a perk that increases the number of units of material per node that gets dropped, then that should increase your likelihood of a crux dropping proportionally to the perk.

    I hope this helps someone. I'd estimate this strategy cuts my time between crux drops by about half compared to harvesting every node.


    istateres wrote: »
    There is currently a significant difference between the PC/MAc version and the console versions. It is much easier to find Nirncrux on Consoles:

    PC/MAC - ONLY Upper Craglorn, only "Void" type nodes, higher rate in "lush" nodes

    Console - ALL of Craglorn, only regular "Void" type nodes, ALL "lush" type nodes at a higher rate

    I figure about a 3x higher drop rate on the consoles. ZOS has stated that PC/MAC will match consoles later this month.


    istateres wrote: »
    Last week, both versions were patched:

    "Nirncrux can now be obtained from all rich ore, rich wood and rich cloth harvest nodes in Craglorn, not just the ones in the upper reaches of the zone, and not just from the highest tiers of material."

    This is NOT how it works on the PC/Mac; and this change did NOT happen in this weeks' PC/Mac patch.

    Whats up? Will there be MORE differences intentionally created between consoles and PC?
    Hey guys, just want to let you know that the Nirncrux increase will be available on PC when we release Imperial City.

  • SirNoodles309
    I think we are getting to the bottom of all this lol
  • SirNoodles309
    Let the farming begin!
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