Teabagging

CN_Daniel

Kobaal wrote: »

I got bagged once by my own group because I accidentally roll dodged off the top of Alessia Bridge while we were farming ><

LOL

Lil blaze's suicide run to the castle wall just to tea bag me as he died from 80x siege is something I'll never forget. Lil hommie got heart, or no damn sense; either way he fits right in.

UltimaJoe777

Teabagging is both immature and stupid at the same time and there is never a right moment to use it. At the same time though poor sportsmanship is also wrong. Win or lose you should be a good sport about it. The sole exception is if the winner cheated with an exploit of course in which case if I see them die and lie there I go stomp on their face lol

What makes stuff like this go on more than it needs to though is when people make excuses such as "it's just a game don't take it so seriously" or "lighten up dude it's just a game nobody cares" but in actuality it can still fall under cyberbullying which actually is a serious problem these days and will probably only get worse as time goes on. This issue is actually on par with how a term used to demean and talk down on black people is now in the same category as simply calling them dude and whatnot but that doesn't make said term any less offensive to many people. I am white and I will always consider said term offensive.


Truth is humanity takes too much too lightly these days but no matter how you try to hide or deny it how you act online actually represents who you are or who you want to be in real life. Many are just childish cowards who don't have the guts to express themselves the way they do online in real life or hide behind such immoral behavior to compensate for shortcomings. I for one detest vulgar behavior online both verbal and physical but personally I find teabagging is just plain ridiculous and not worth taking seriously as it just goes to show the person doing it is truly petty.

Sad thing is so many that may or may not read what I have just posted won't give a damn. That, people, is what humanity is right now. Viva la armageddon! May it come soon to punish such rotten people.

TBois

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Teabagging is both immature and stupid at the same time and there is never a right moment to use it. At the same time though poor sportsmanship is also wrong. Win or lose you should be a good sport about it. The sole exception is if the winner cheated with an exploit of course in which case if I see them die and lie there I go stomp on their face lol

What makes stuff like this go on more than it needs to though is when people make excuses such as "it's just a game don't take it so seriously" or "lighten up dude it's just a game nobody cares" but in actuality it can still fall under cyberbullying which actually is a serious problem these days and will probably only get worse as time goes on. This issue is actually on par with how a term used to demean and talk down on black people is now in the same category as simply calling them dude and whatnot but that doesn't make said term any less offensive to many people. I am white and I will always consider said term offensive.


Truth is humanity takes too much too lightly these days but no matter how you try to hide or deny it how you act online actually represents who you are or who you want to be in real life. Many are just childish cowards who don't have the guts to express themselves the way they do online in real life or hide behind such immoral behavior to compensate for shortcomings. I for one detest vulgar behavior online both verbal and physical but personally I find teabagging is just plain ridiculous and not worth taking seriously as it just goes to show the person doing it is truly petty.

Sad thing is so many that may or may not read what I have just posted won't give a damn. That, people, is what humanity is right now. Viva la armageddon! May it come soon to punish such rotten people.

This is all dependent on culture and outlook. As has been stated by many of the veteran PC players here, the culture of ESO teabagging is all in good fun.

EDIT: We are all killing each other in this game, but the culture of this game is that killing is ok. It doesn't mean we like to kill IRL

Cinnamon_Spider

I guess its a good thing I don't tea bag. I taco drop, right @Winnamine?

Do people really get so upset over this that they report it? If you don't want to see it, just rez up. Since rolling a Templar, I've found myself doing this more frequently, especially to failed gankers. And I always have time for @Hektik_V.

I've also found that it will make some people release instead of laying there waiting on a res, or will make their teammate sitting in the shadows show their self, so they can be killed and then tbagged.

But seriously, if this upsets anyone that much, they need to stop taking their self so seriously.

Kupoking

Well, for a year ZoS had the relutation to be soft with playerbase that would go against TOS. I am happy to see them be morr harsh these days as I see more and more players having actions taken against them. Players that deserved it.

Ezareth

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Teabagging is both immature and stupid at the same time and there is never a right moment to use it. At the same time though poor sportsmanship is also wrong. Win or lose you should be a good sport about it. The sole exception is if the winner cheated with an exploit of course in which case if I see them die and lie there I go stomp on their face lol

What makes stuff like this go on more than it needs to though is when people make excuses such as "it's just a game don't take it so seriously" or "lighten up dude it's just a game nobody cares" but in actuality it can still fall under cyberbullying which actually is a serious problem these days and will probably only get worse as time goes on. This issue is actually on par with how a term used to demean and talk down on black people is now in the same category as simply calling them dude and whatnot but that doesn't make said term any less offensive to many people. I am white and I will always consider said term offensive.


Truth is humanity takes too much too lightly these days but no matter how you try to hide or deny it how you act online actually represents who you are or who you want to be in real life. Many are just childish cowards who don't have the guts to express themselves the way they do online in real life or hide behind such immoral behavior to compensate for shortcomings. I for one detest vulgar behavior online both verbal and physical but personally I find teabagging is just plain ridiculous and not worth taking seriously as it just goes to show the person doing it is truly petty.

Sad thing is so many that may or may not read what I have just posted won't give a damn. That, people, is what humanity is right now. Viva la armageddon! May it come soon to punish such rotten people.

While I applaud your moral integrity and share it in many ways I have to disagree with you. Too many people take too much too *seriously* not too lightly. When I started this game I used to feel the same way as you about teabagging. But as you learn more about the ESO community you realize that good or bad it's part of the culture of the PvP community. The only people who get offended at being teabagged are the same people who can't laugh at a your mom joke. You just have to learn to allow people to be themselves and take it for what it is. There is nothing wrong with a little bit of immaturity now and then...remember we're all playing a Video game!

CN_Daniel

Can i report my teammate for bullying me? I don't wanna be bag'ed no mo...

Akinos

Don't see why people think this is fake, ZOS has been known to do some pretty silly things....Like refunding me for 3 months of game time last year, for no reason at all. I didn't complain though

Kupoking

Ezareth wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Teabagging is both immature and stupid at the same time and there is never a right moment to use it. At the same time though poor sportsmanship is also wrong. Win or lose you should be a good sport about it. The sole exception is if the winner cheated with an exploit of course in which case if I see them die and lie there I go stomp on their face lol

What makes stuff like this go on more than it needs to though is when people make excuses such as "it's just a game don't take it so seriously" or "lighten up dude it's just a game nobody cares" but in actuality it can still fall under cyberbullying which actually is a serious problem these days and will probably only get worse as time goes on. This issue is actually on par with how a term used to demean and talk down on black people is now in the same category as simply calling them dude and whatnot but that doesn't make said term any less offensive to many people. I am white and I will always consider said term offensive.


Truth is humanity takes too much too lightly these days but no matter how you try to hide or deny it how you act online actually represents who you are or who you want to be in real life. Many are just childish cowards who don't have the guts to express themselves the way they do online in real life or hide behind such immoral behavior to compensate for shortcomings. I for one detest vulgar behavior online both verbal and physical but personally I find teabagging is just plain ridiculous and not worth taking seriously as it just goes to show the person doing it is truly petty.

Sad thing is so many that may or may not read what I have just posted won't give a damn. That, people, is what humanity is right now. Viva la armageddon! May it come soon to punish such rotten people.

While I applaud your moral integrity and share it in many ways I have to disagree with you. Too many people take too much too *seriously* not too lightly. When I started this game I used to feel the same way as you about teabagging. But as you learn more about the ESO community you realize that good or bad it's part of the culture of the PvP community. The only people who get offended at being teabagged are the same people who can't laugh at a your mom joke. You just have to learn to allow people to be themselves and take it for what it is. There is nothing wrong with a little bit of immaturity now and then...remember we're all playing a Video game!

Except you can expect a video game company to educate people that come frok different backgrounds, country, cultures. Being unrespectful and demanding that people just take it because its in your personnal belief doesnt give you the moral support to carry on and *** a majority of people off.

Sad truth is, game would be more enjoyable if some d bags would be excluded. Would he beneficial for the community's rep which got extremely worse since beginning of 2015 for a reason I dont know of. I also know people who left because what held them here was a mature community, which we had back then.

Ezareth

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Teabagging is both immature and stupid at the same time and there is never a right moment to use it. At the same time though poor sportsmanship is also wrong. Win or lose you should be a good sport about it. The sole exception is if the winner cheated with an exploit of course in which case if I see them die and lie there I go stomp on their face lol

What makes stuff like this go on more than it needs to though is when people make excuses such as "it's just a game don't take it so seriously" or "lighten up dude it's just a game nobody cares" but in actuality it can still fall under cyberbullying which actually is a serious problem these days and will probably only get worse as time goes on. This issue is actually on par with how a term used to demean and talk down on black people is now in the same category as simply calling them dude and whatnot but that doesn't make said term any less offensive to many people. I am white and I will always consider said term offensive.


Truth is humanity takes too much too lightly these days but no matter how you try to hide or deny it how you act online actually represents who you are or who you want to be in real life. Many are just childish cowards who don't have the guts to express themselves the way they do online in real life or hide behind such immoral behavior to compensate for shortcomings. I for one detest vulgar behavior online both verbal and physical but personally I find teabagging is just plain ridiculous and not worth taking seriously as it just goes to show the person doing it is truly petty.

Sad thing is so many that may or may not read what I have just posted won't give a damn. That, people, is what humanity is right now. Viva la armageddon! May it come soon to punish such rotten people.

While I applaud your moral integrity and share it in many ways I have to disagree with you. Too many people take too much too *seriously* not too lightly. When I started this game I used to feel the same way as you about teabagging. But as you learn more about the ESO community you realize that good or bad it's part of the culture of the PvP community. The only people who get offended at being teabagged are the same people who can't laugh at a your mom joke. You just have to learn to allow people to be themselves and take it for what it is. There is nothing wrong with a little bit of immaturity now and then...remember we're all playing a Video game!

Except you can expect a video game company to educate people that come frok different backgrounds, country, cultures. Being unrespectful and demanding that people just take it because its in your personnal belief doesnt give you the moral support to carry on and *** a majority of people off.

Sad truth is, game would be more enjoyable if some d bags would be excluded. Would he beneficial for the community's rep which got extremely worse since beginning of 2015 for a reason I dont know of. I also know people who left because what held them here was a mature community, which we had back then.

The community got worse when the FTP crowd arrived. That's a given as it opened the game up to a low of people of low income / means who are statistically going to be teenagers.

I still refuse to subscribe to the belief that "Pissing people off" is the fault of anyone other than the person who found themselves to be offended as it all comes down to opinion at that point.

I could have one set of beliefs on what is respectful/disrespectful and you could have a different set and who is to say who is right and who is wrong? Far better for everyone to become accepting of the behavior of others to the point it is unable to affect you. Sure harassment and threats are one thing, but in game antics are another. The morals of the community are across the entire spectrum, to expect everyone to adhere to your own standards is rather naive.

Kupoking

So instead of being open minded to others you prefer to keep doing what your doing expecting(or demanding) a different result?

Minnesinger

Luvboard jumped off the cliff on his mount and took various others to their demise. Guess if he was teabagged by the rest of the same group. Didn´t notice he got traumatized. Can´t take video games so seriously

Ezareth

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of being open minded to others you prefer to keep doing what your doing expecting(or demanding) a different result?

This has always been my philosophy, not a state of mind.

Do not give others power over you. If you let someone anger you, the fault is *always* yours not theirs. Control your own emotions.

I don't expect any result as I don't seek to put myself in a position of power over others to enact any form of change or force my will on others. The only form of close-mindedness comes from those who expect to be able to live their lives in a fragile bubble....never to be exposed to things that elicit emotion responses from them that they don't desire. These people are happy to force their will and beliefs on others so as to protect their fragile way of living.

That's just the way I live and I'm happy with it. The only people who ever elicit emotion responses from me are those who disappoint me after I put some measure of trust in them and I'm OK with that because I know it's my fault for trusting them and that's life.

Kupoking

Ezareth wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of being open minded to others you prefer to keep doing what your doing expecting(or demanding) a different result?

This has always been my philosophy, not a state of mind.

Do not give others power over you. If you let someone anger you, the fault is *always* yours not theirs. Control your own emotions.

I don't expect any result as I don't seek to put myself in a position of power over others to enact any form of change or force my will on others. The only form of close-mindedness comes from those who expect to be able to live their lives in a fragile bubble....never to be exposed to things that elicit emotion responses from them that they don't desire. These people are happy to force their will and beliefs on others so as to protect their fragile way of living.

That's just the way I live and I'm happy with it. The only people who ever elicit emotion responses from me are those who disappoint me after I put some measure of trust in them and I'm OK with that because I know it's my fault for trusting them and that's life.

I couldnt agree more. Except, like you mentionned, you cannot expect people to follow your own philosophy.

See what I did before? Tried to use agruements to change your mentality. Did it work? Nope. As I said you cant really educate poeple in videogames. Cant change them behavior.

That being said, in a business point of view, if you uave a majority of people who are sensitive to something (t bagging for example) well that majority sets the rule or rather sets the culture and if zos wants a positive feedback from the majority, they must moderate this.

TBois

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of being open minded to others you prefer to keep doing what your doing expecting(or demanding) a different result?

This has always been my philosophy, not a state of mind.

Do not give others power over you. If you let someone anger you, the fault is *always* yours not theirs. Control your own emotions.

I don't expect any result as I don't seek to put myself in a position of power over others to enact any form of change or force my will on others. The only form of close-mindedness comes from those who expect to be able to live their lives in a fragile bubble....never to be exposed to things that elicit emotion responses from them that they don't desire. These people are happy to force their will and beliefs on others so as to protect their fragile way of living.

That's just the way I live and I'm happy with it. The only people who ever elicit emotion responses from me are those who disappoint me after I put some measure of trust in them and I'm OK with that because I know it's my fault for trusting them and that's life.

I couldnt agree more. Except, like you mentionned, you cannot expect people to follow your own philosophy.

See what I did before? Tried to use agruements to change your mentality. Did it work? Nope. As I said you cant really educate poeple in videogames. Cant change them behavior.

That being said, in a business point of view, if you uave a majority of people who are sensitive to something (t bagging for example) well that majority sets the rule or rather sets the culture and if zos wants a positive feedback from the majority, they must moderate this.

In my experience the majority of players don't care when they are teabagged or they think it's all in good fun

Kupoking

sixuponthelot wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of being open minded to others you prefer to keep doing what your doing expecting(or demanding) a different result?

This has always been my philosophy, not a state of mind.

Do not give others power over you. If you let someone anger you, the fault is *always* yours not theirs. Control your own emotions.

I don't expect any result as I don't seek to put myself in a position of power over others to enact any form of change or force my will on others. The only form of close-mindedness comes from those who expect to be able to live their lives in a fragile bubble....never to be exposed to things that elicit emotion responses from them that they don't desire. These people are happy to force their will and beliefs on others so as to protect their fragile way of living.

That's just the way I live and I'm happy with it. The only people who ever elicit emotion responses from me are those who disappoint me after I put some measure of trust in them and I'm OK with that because I know it's my fault for trusting them and that's life.

I couldnt agree more. Except, like you mentionned, you cannot expect people to follow your own philosophy.

See what I did before? Tried to use agruements to change your mentality. Did it work? Nope. As I said you cant really educate poeple in videogames. Cant change them behavior.

That being said, in a business point of view, if you uave a majority of people who are sensitive to something (t bagging for example) well that majority sets the rule or rather sets the culture and if zos wants a positive feedback from the majority, they must moderate this.

In my experience the majority of players don't care when they are teabagged or they think it's all in good fun

Indeed. But it is your own experience which is limited to certain spheres of peoples you know.

I suspect that zos has access to more information than that to make their move. Having access to number of player complaints and feedback might be another source. Those surveys they send you in email might be another.

All im saying is that your perception might differ from mine as well as all others. Realisticly, zos isnt pulling that out of no where as they didnt have the same response to this situation.

newtinmpls

This is a quote, but the post I am responding to had so many layers that I'm not quite clear on who actually said it:

"Verbal harassment and threats sure....but in actions performed in the game by characters that are not exploiting game mechanics should never be moderated."

IF this was the standard, THEN any vile action in-game is defensible by saying "that wasn't ME, it was my character".

For that reason, I don't care for that as a standard.

Publius_Scipio

I think it's time to ask do you all know this is a game right? You shouldn't be getting mad at anything said or done.

DisgracefulMind

Winnamine wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

The only thing better than a good bagging is one-shotting a jabroni bagging one of your friends. Oh the hate...


I thoroughly enjoy it when the ladies on our team get all spicy and start bagging hard core LOL. They're usually so sweeet but sometimes....LOL....they can be 'relentless'.

Ladies don't teabag.
They taco drop.

I prefer calling it the clam slam.

Ezareth

newtinmpls wrote: »

This is a quote, but the post I am responding to had so many layers that I'm not quite clear on who actually said it:

"Verbal harassment and threats sure....but in actions performed in the game by characters that are not exploiting game mechanics should never be moderated."

IF this was the standard, THEN any vile action in-game is defensible by saying "that wasn't ME, it was my character".

For that reason, I don't care for that as a standard.

That was my quote and my point was if it was something that was designed in the game then it was assuredly not something that could be considered "vile". You can't take your undergarments off in the game for exactly that sort of reason. ZoS makes available just the kind of actions they deem to be appropriate.

If ZoS started moderating in game actions based upon a perceived intent it becomes a quagmire or administration on their end that is financially crippling because it comes down to perception and not clearly defined and easily understood terms.

Do not verbally harrass. Do not threaten players. Do not cheat or exploit game mechanics etc. Very easy to moderate and not subject to much interpretation.

Someone squatting on your corpse over and over becomes something that is very difficult to moderate. Evidence of the act is limited and on a whole it ends up costing you business because something moderated to that degree is sure to drive away players.

One need only look to the recent turmoil at Reddit to understand exactly how too much moderation can hurt your business.

Ezareth

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I think it's time to ask do you all know this is a game right? You shouldn't be getting mad at anything said or done.

When I get my nerd-rage on I could probably bench press 3 of you.

tplink3r1

Really? People are mad because other people are virtually tea-bagging them? LOL.
I won't stop tea bagging others, sorry kids.

TBois

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

sixuponthelot wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

So instead of being open minded to others you prefer to keep doing what your doing expecting(or demanding) a different result?

This has always been my philosophy, not a state of mind.

Do not give others power over you. If you let someone anger you, the fault is *always* yours not theirs. Control your own emotions.

I don't expect any result as I don't seek to put myself in a position of power over others to enact any form of change or force my will on others. The only form of close-mindedness comes from those who expect to be able to live their lives in a fragile bubble....never to be exposed to things that elicit emotion responses from them that they don't desire. These people are happy to force their will and beliefs on others so as to protect their fragile way of living.

That's just the way I live and I'm happy with it. The only people who ever elicit emotion responses from me are those who disappoint me after I put some measure of trust in them and I'm OK with that because I know it's my fault for trusting them and that's life.

I couldnt agree more. Except, like you mentionned, you cannot expect people to follow your own philosophy.

See what I did before? Tried to use agruements to change your mentality. Did it work? Nope. As I said you cant really educate poeple in videogames. Cant change them behavior.

That being said, in a business point of view, if you uave a majority of people who are sensitive to something (t bagging for example) well that majority sets the rule or rather sets the culture and if zos wants a positive feedback from the majority, they must moderate this.

In my experience the majority of players don't care when they are teabagged or they think it's all in good fun

Indeed. But it is your own experience which is limited to certain spheres of peoples you know.

I suspect that zos has access to more information than that to make their move. Having access to number of player complaints and feedback might be another source. Those surveys they send you in email might be another.

All im saying is that your perception might differ from mine as well as all others. Realisticly, zos isnt pulling that out of no where as they didnt have the same response to this situation.

But zos's reporting system only takes into account negative feedback.

ShadoPanauin

If someone teabags you it is a sign of affection.

Seriously though, people, don't take it so seriously. If you take it seriously, the Internet is not a very good place for you.

Kobaal

I love tea. Its good for you too.

PeggymoeXD

LOL I take it as a compliment when I'm teabagged. And I only teabag if I hunt down the person who teabagged me in the first place lol I'll always /bow or whipser "gf" if it was a decent, honorable fight.

anitajoneb17_ESO

sixuponthelot wrote: »

In my experience the majority of players don't care when they are teabagged or they think it's all in good fun

And I don't know *anyone* in game that doesn't think that teabaggers are sick in their heads.
We don't take it as a "personal offense" (we can get over that), but it shows such a mix of idiocy and perversion that it projects over the entire pvp community (which has a really bad image in this game, just fyi) and takes away many people from pvp. No fun in playing with idiotic pervs. That's all.

You might not care but I'm glad ZOS cares. A bad community a surely going to drive more players away than some moderation from ZOS.

Vizier

Teabag is the equivalent of "losers walk" and trash talking. I suggest getting thicker skin. It will serve one better in life. You don't have a right to go through life without being offended. Outside attempts to mitigate this don't do anyone any favors.

newtinmpls

sixuponthelot wrote: »

But zos's reporting system only takes into account negative feedback.

I suggested that it might be a good idea to have "positive" reporting and though some liked it, many objected because it would be misused by friends of whoever.

Mojmir

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

I guess its a good thing I don't tea bag. I taco drop, right @Winnamine?

Do people really get so upset over this that they report it? If you don't want to see it, just rez up. Since rolling a Templar, I've found myself doing this more frequently, especially to failed gankers. And I always have time for @Hektik_V.

I've also found that it will make some people release instead of laying there waiting on a res, or will make their teammate sitting in the shadows show their self, so they can be killed and then tbagged.

But seriously, if this upsets anyone that much, they need to stop taking their self so seriously.

I see your taco drop and raise you a clam slam