Justice System Addition - Public Indecency

Gidorick

MaximusDargus wrote: »

Well, sorry.

No matter how much i look at it i still see only person doing pushups.

If you see something "lewd" in it, then i cant help with what your brain sees. There is a saying in my language "starving will see bread everywhere" so if you see lewd things in simple and common behaviours.... : P well, maybe its the way you think?

I guess I'm just a little more capable to understand what someone is inferring with their actions than you are. It's the intent. I GET the intent. I wish I didn't... but I do, and it has nothing to do with how much action I am personally getting and for you to take this as an opportunity to attack me personally by insinuating that I need to get laid is immature. Quite frankly, it makes me think you are one of those who performs these acts in game. It seems like you are simply trying to justify the acts by saying "hey... I'm just doing pushups..."

But I will admit... I do tend to skew toward the randy perspective. I read innuendo into many things because my culture tends to over sexualize pretty much everything. But this isn't innuendo, these are willful acts that are MEANT to be sexual. It's lewd behavior no matter how you try to justify it. So go do it in the woods like a Bosmer.

Gidorick

BlackEar wrote: »

No thanks.

I would rather they spent their time on something else.

Ahhh there's the standard response. I'm surprised it took so long!

Anzriel

EQBallzz wrote: »

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

My khajiit would like to inform you furless ones that we're never "nude". So as long as cats aren't subject to the silly morals of you hairless creatures, sure, go for it.

Interesting. So you are saying Khajiit are "never nudes"? I haven't seen those since Arrested Development.

Never Nude is a syndrome which Tobias Fünke suffers from which renders him unable to be naked, even in solitude. He copes by wearing tight jean cutoffs under his clothes. It is not recognized by the DSM-IV. Annual conferences are held for those affected.

Now I just have to see a Khajiit wearing a pair of tight jean cutoffs..

Did you get this pic from Molag Bal? This picture has scarred me on so many levels... I can't even close my eyes due to the fear of seeing it in my nightmares. >.>

MaximusDargus wrote: »

Well, sorry.

No matter how much i look at it i still see only person doing pushups.

If you see something "lewd" in it, then i cant help with what your brain sees. There is a saying in my language "starving will see bread everywhere" so if you see lewd things in simple and common behaviours.... : P well, maybe its the way you think?

Yup, I'm a pervert. Won't even lie about it. "Lewd"

Machiavelli

Wonder twin powers activate. Shape of a Prude, form of the Victorian era.

SugaComa

Gidorick wrote: »

This is a pretty quick suggestion:

If a player is running around pants-less in public and they are seen by a guard, they should get a little bounty and their wanted level should increase. This infraction should be a lesser crime than picking a lock or pickpocketing, but it should be a crime.

Thoughts?

It's summer and if I Want to run around in my swim trunks I will do

Moonscythe

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

My khajiit would like to inform you furless ones that we're never "nude". So as long as cats aren't subject to the silly morals of you hairless creatures, sure, go for it.

So long as the cats and lizards wear underwear as if they had something to hide then they are indecent when unclothed. On the other hand, i always thought that the Khajit and Argonians should be designed to look less human in their body plan and thus able to wear their own fur or scales with armor being different on them.

Gidorick

Moonscythe wrote: »

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

My khajiit would like to inform you furless ones that we're never "nude". So as long as cats aren't subject to the silly morals of you hairless creatures, sure, go for it.

So long as the cats and lizards wear underwear as if they had something to hide then they are indecent when unclothed. On the other hand, i always thought that the Khajit and Argonians should be designed to look less human in their body plan and thus able to wear their own fur or scales with armor being different on them.

I FINALLY have a "weird lore question" for @Lawrence_Schick. Do Argonians and Khajiit have genitalia similar to Men and Mer?

FancyTuna8

MaximusDargus wrote: »

Well, sorry.

No matter how much i look at it i still see only person doing pushups.

If you see something "lewd" in it, then i cant help with what your brain sees. There is a saying in my language "starving will see bread everywhere" so if you see lewd things in simple and common behaviours.... : P well, maybe its the way you think?

You're trying too hard at this.
So the people emoting in that situation didn't mean anything by it? Sophistry.

Gidorick

@FancyTuna8, I think that is pretty much the argument of those who perform these acts in game.

"What? I'm just doing pushups...."

Thanks for teaching me a new word too! Sophistry.

AlienSlof

Gidorick wrote: »

This is a pretty quick suggestion:

If a player is running around pants-less in public and they are seen by a guard, they should get a little bounty and their wanted level should increase. This infraction should be a lesser crime than picking a lock or pickpocketing, but it should be a crime.

To prevent players from being "forced" into a style perhaps the infraction could be without pants and without shirt at the same time. That way a player could run around without one or the other as it seems to be the complete lack of both that jostles player's jimmies.

To build onto that, different cities could have decency laws to where in one prudish city they require players to have shirts, pants, and shoes... and other cities that are flying free with no laws at all! This would actually add quite a bit of life and variety to the cities of ESO.

Thoughts?

Blimey, a Gidorick idea I don't agree with! Usually I love your ideas, but not this one. We have enough prudishness in real life without dragging it into a game as well. Come on, people - we live in an enlightened age, so why are some of us still afraid of a bit of bare skin?

I'm sick of this prudish thing people have in real life. I certainly don't want any more of it added to an already skin-scared game.

Besides, I kind of enjoy the nuddie parties and have joined in with more than a few! It's fun!

Gidorick

LOL I'll eventually get everyone to disagree with me at some point.

Actually @AlienSlof... it has nothing to do with bare skin. I am 100% FOR "sexier" armor. I want to be able to run around like a barbarian and it be a legitimate means of play. I actually have a whole Tailoring Skill and Merchant Concept that includes "undergarments"... my problem here is the fact that people are being purposefully inappropriate and as I stated before:

Gidorick wrote: »

The primary thing that lead to this suggestion is that people are saying children won't be added because people are pervs and will do this sort of stuff to children NPCs... so I'm like "ok, make it "illegal" ". It should NEVER be that a games progress in design, art, style, culture should be hindered by inappropriate acts of gamers. I think that's a travesty if that is TRULY the reason kids aren't in this game.

I'm pointing out here that there CAN be consequences to actions... ZOS doesn't have to let the lecherous stifle their game... in fact, they can enhance their game and make it a more immersive experience by actively discouraging this behavior in the areas where there would be considered "public" and the areas where there are children.

It's not as simple as "being offended".

The idea that the development of the game is being stifled by the fact that people CAN be inappropriate infuriates me... If you have another idea that would prevent the "virtual abuse" of the hypothetical digital children I urge you to outline them.

And the ridiculousness of that last sentence hasn't escaped me.

CapnPhoton

It might be a good idea. But only because it would prevent people who get bored with the game, and use emotes 'creatively' on/around/next to your character in town while in their underwear.

Then once you are tagged as the offender, everybody can hit you with special sticks and knock you down (no damage) for a while. For a 24 hour period after, guards will call you, 'strange', or mention that you are now on a national public database.

'I know you. You're in that tome about hormone imbalanced people'

'Oh a shiny new coin. Better wait til you pass before I bend over to get it'

VilhelmValhalla4

I like this idea, and I think that larger additions to the Justice System would make these new laws viable (namely the addition of a jail, it would be pretty sad to be summarily executed for the crime of wearing no pants).

VoidBlue

Gidorick wrote: »

I FINALLY have a "weird lore question" for @Lawrence_Schick. Do Argonians and Khajiit have genitalia similar to Men and Mer?

if they are like the actual animals they have their junk tucked inside them until they use their muscles to spew it out via their *** bone that most animals have.

Ysne58

What about groups like the Naked Nords? @Bherdani can certainly tell you more about them. They make fighting with out armor awesome.

Gidorick

Ysne58 wrote: »

What about groups like the Naked Nords? @Bherdani can certainly tell you more about them. They make fighting with out armor awesome.

As long as they aren't naked inside cities, they wont have any problems....

Rinmaethodain

Yeah, seriously.

Tamriels is right now like mentally in middle ages, but without the church and instead bunch of pagan religions.

And judging from history books, there were more things happening in middle ages than "doing push ups above someone". You are lucky that /pushup is all we get in ESO.

GreySix

Gidorick wrote: »

To prevent players from being "forced" into a style perhaps the infraction could be without pants and without shirt at the same time. That way a player could run around without one or the other as it seems to be the complete lack of both that jostles player's jimmies.

FancyTuna8

Gidorick wrote: »

@FancyTuna8, I think that is pretty much the argument of those who perform these acts in game.

"What? I'm just doing pushups...."

Thanks for teaching me a new word too! Sophistry.

I had to look up the word last night while reading a book, to make sure I knew what it meant.
Funny I got an opportunity to use it so quickly!

As to the original idea, I do like it because it makes the game world feel a bit more real. Heck, it would be a blast in this game if the guards varied from don't care to corrupt to zealot, and also varied in their behaviors and capabilities(Inspector Clouseau/SherlockHolmes/BarneyFife/Robocop). I doubt ZOS would write code for essentially 3-8 types of NPC's (though all with same skins), but to have that uncertainty in the game, and the challenge that comes with it, is fun to me.

Soulshine

Gidorick wrote: »

This is a pretty quick suggestion:

If a player is running around pants-less in public and they are seen by a guard, they should get a little bounty and their wanted level should increase. This infraction should be a lesser crime than picking a lock or pickpocketing, but it should be a crime.

To prevent players from being "forced" into a style perhaps the infraction could be without pants and without shirt at the same time. That way a player could run around without one or the other as it seems to be the complete lack of both that jostles player's jimmies.

To build onto that, different cities could have decency laws to where in one prudish city they require players to have shirts, pants, and shoes... and other cities that are flying free with no laws at all! This would actually add quite a bit of life and variety to the cities of ESO.

Thoughts?

If you are sure that it will also slap a bounty on everyone who says to me "play naked" when I say I want a challenge - then go for it.

Arato

.... I have bank alts that I really don't feel like getting gear for, that currently just wear costumes and considering this game it'd get buggy and only take equipped armor into account.

Psychobunni

GreySix wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

To prevent players from being "forced" into a style perhaps the infraction could be without pants and without shirt at the same time. That way a player could run around without one or the other as it seems to be the complete lack of both that jostles player's jimmies.

ooooooo @GreySix I love this one! STOLEN! For usage on some debate pages.

Mod's should let us have a meme war thread as long as it stayed related. endless thieving possibilities...

Gidorick

Arato wrote: »

.... I have bank alts that I really don't feel like getting gear for, that currently just wear costumes and considering this game it'd get buggy and only take equipped armor into account.

If ZOS were to implement a better inventory system, it would negate the perceived need for Bank Alts... and NO gameplay mechanic should be designed or stifled in the consideration of bank alts. They all came with soul shriven gear... and chearp armor is cheap.

and a naked player who is wearing a costume shouldn't be fined....

Korah_Eaglecry

Id rather see them make changes to how the Justice System works first. It annoys me to no end when I kill a lone NPC out in the middle of no where with no Guard anywhere remotely close to my location and I instantly have a bounty.

Cities, Towns and anywhere within a certain distance of Guards should definitely cause a bounty. But out on the roads and in the wilderness it should be anything goes. It is a dangerous time and a dangerous world after all. I once stole something in a house out in the middle of nowhere and the occupants attacked me. So I killed them and racked up a sizeable bounty....If it had been in a town or city I wouldnt have been annoyed with it. But who were these two going to tell between throwing their fists and getting stabbed?

Gidorick

I COMPLETELY agree @Korah_Eaglecry. If a crime isn't committed within a certain proximity of a guard, it should go un-noticed. That being said, NPCs should run away and seek help is there are no guards around.

The justice system AI really could use some tweaking.

AhPook_Is_Here

I like to go natural, so no.

Gidorick

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

I like to go natural, so no.

again, in the wilderness... go nuts. But in town, put same pants on ya dirty Bosmer.

notimetocare

Gidorick wrote: »

This is a pretty quick suggestion:

If a player is running around pants-less in public and they are seen by a guard, they should get a little bounty and their wanted level should increase. This infraction should be a lesser crime than picking a lock or pickpocketing, but it should be a crime.

To prevent players from being "forced" into a style perhaps the infraction could be without pants and without shirt at the same time. That way a player could run around without one or the other as it seems to be the complete lack of both that jostles player's jimmies.

To build onto that, different cities could have decency laws to where in one prudish city they require players to have shirts, pants, and shoes... and other cities that are flying free with no laws at all! This would actually add quite a bit of life and variety to the cities of ESO.

Thoughts?

Waste of effort

Rinmaethodain

Sometimes having clothes can be actually worse than "no clothes"

Malnutrition

Psychobunni wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Psychobunni wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Sure, why not, but if you are going to go that route, why limit it to being unclothed? What about those wonderful players who /emote sit and and sit on the ground while the other player /emote pushups and does pushups with his/her head bobbing in the other players lap? There are several other examples I could give, but you get the point. Like I said in the other thread, players like these are why we can't have nice things.

My mule sits in Dhalmora crafting hut in just her tabard, she rarely ever leaves. I don't want to fully dress her She's not hurting anyone

Pantless bounties...I'm going to run around pantless to honor this

She rocks it I think, even covers her bum, I'm going to keep it until VR! TY

I'm diggin' the look!