Imperial city 1st PvP update since launch and cost $25

sbanned_530978

Imperial City an update being only partially PvP the 1st ever seen in ESO and it costs $25? Most of us played ESO for the PvP being promised PvP updates

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Q: Are you all done building Cyrodiil or will there be any PvP updates?
A: There will be plenty of updates to Cyrodiil as the game lives on. There are already plans for the first few patches!

After almost a year of subscription fees we have to pay to play the 1st new PvP content. The old PvP content is bugged and laggy and not yet fixed.

I could never force myself to pay that) even if I simply wanted to check it out. Who will pay for more of that or has something changed?

Etharian

you clearly have no clue what you are talking about, you should do a little research before making assumptions.

sbanned_530978

Etharian wrote: »

you clearly have no clue what you are talking about, you should do a little research before making assumptions.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/160820/alliance-war-faq-zos-brian-wheelers-answer-to-pvp-updates-from-april-2014/p1

Heres a post with a list of the 1st 6 updates that has to do with everything that went wrong with the game AND with links to original patch notes, Brian said there would be updates in the cyrodiil FAQ,

I looked everything up.

Dont call people on something you clearly haven't, unless you want to explain and do anything relevant with your post

b][Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments][/b]

Etaniel

krayiss wrote: »

Imperial City an update being only partially PvP the 1st ever seen in ESO and it costs $25? Most of us played ESO for the PvP being promised PvP updates

["krayiss;160820"]

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Q: Are you all done building Cyrodiil or will there be any PvP updates?
A: There will be plenty of updates to Cyrodiil as the game lives on. There are already plans for the first few patches!

After almost a year of subscription fees we have to pay to play the 1st new PvP content. The old PvP content is bugged and laggy and not yet fixed.

I could never force myself to pay that) even if I simply wanted to check it out. Who will pay for more of that or has something changed?

I'm willing to pay for it, and I've been PvPing since beta
This is obviously no small patch, it took a lot of time and effort and it looks like much has changed since they first announced it.
If you haven't spent the crowns you got for subscribing from the start, this update is free to you. The fact you decided to spend it on a pet or a mount when they told us DLC wouldn't be free is your fault.

I don't mind paying these guys as long as i'm having fun with the game they propose

sbanned_530978

Etaniel wrote: »

The fact you decided to spend it on a pet or a mount when they told us DLC wouldn't be free is your fault.

They also told us there would be PvP updates in the 1st few patches as stated in the FAQ by brian, I stopped believing anything after that sry.

Xsorus

krayiss wrote: »

Imperial City an update being only partially PvP the 1st ever seen in ESO and it costs $25? Most of us played ESO for the PvP being promised PvP updates

["krayiss;160820"]

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Q: Are you all done building Cyrodiil or will there be any PvP updates?
A: There will be plenty of updates to Cyrodiil as the game lives on. There are already plans for the first few patches!

After almost a year of subscription fees we have to pay to play the 1st new PvP content. The old PvP content is bugged and laggy and not yet fixed.

I could never force myself to pay that) even if I simply wanted to check it out. Who will pay for more of that or has something changed?

If imperial city was released last year, could you play it without a subscription?
Just like then you can either get it for free with your subscription, or you can buy it for a onetime fee if you aren't subscribed

Nothing has changed except you having more options.

In other word quit whining

Leandor

So when there was no choice in regards to a subscription fee before it went B2P, would you have made the same comment? Because actually, it is "free" (in the sense of the "free" it would have been under the subscription model) as long as you are subscribed.

Etaniel

krayiss wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

The fact you decided to spend it on a pet or a mount when they told us DLC wouldn't be free is your fault.

They also told us there would be PvP updates in the 1st few patches as stated in the FAQ by brian, I stopped believing anything after that sry.

Well, if there's one thing you can trust ZOS with, it's money. If they tell you something won't be free, it won't ^^

And I stopped believing a lot of the stuff they say as well, which is why I don't subscribe to ESO + anymore. Nevertheless this looks like a worthy update and I'm willing to pay for it

Bashev

1) It is free if you are subscribed.
2) You received 1000 crowns at ESO TU launch - so it will cost only 15 euros/dolars/pounds.
3) If you dont want to pay - just dont buy the dlc.

Taonnor

I can say it often enough:

Taonnor wrote: »

Before march we must pay every month 13€ to play the game.

Now we had ~6 months without paying 13€ every month to get full access to that game and pay again ~17€ (2500 crones) to get full access again. That's a good deal for us players!

~78 € vs ~ 17 €

sbanned_530978

Xsorus wrote: »

krayiss wrote: »

Imperial City an update being only partially PvP the 1st ever seen in ESO and it costs $25? Most of us played ESO for the PvP being promised PvP updates

["krayiss;160820"]

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Q: Are you all done building Cyrodiil or will there be any PvP updates?
A: There will be plenty of updates to Cyrodiil as the game lives on. There are already plans for the first few patches!

After almost a year of subscription fees we have to pay to play the 1st new PvP content. The old PvP content is bugged and laggy and not yet fixed.

I could never force myself to pay that) even if I simply wanted to check it out. Who will pay for more of that or has something changed?

If imperial city was released last year, could you play it without a subscription?
Just like then you can either get it for free with your subscription, or you can buy it for a onetime fee if you aren't subscribed

Nothing has changed except you having more options.

In other word quit whining

what changed is I wouldn't be paying an extra $25 to check out imperial city which was promised in the 1st few patches?, do you read at all?

Leandor

krayiss wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

krayiss wrote: »

Imperial City an update being only partially PvP the 1st ever seen in ESO and it costs $25? Most of us played ESO for the PvP being promised PvP updates

["krayiss;160820"]

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Q: Are you all done building Cyrodiil or will there be any PvP updates?
A: There will be plenty of updates to Cyrodiil as the game lives on. There are already plans for the first few patches!

After almost a year of subscription fees we have to pay to play the 1st new PvP content. The old PvP content is bugged and laggy and not yet fixed.

I could never force myself to pay that) even if I simply wanted to check it out. Who will pay for more of that or has something changed?

If imperial city was released last year, could you play it without a subscription?
Just like then you can either get it for free with your subscription, or you can buy it for a onetime fee if you aren't subscribed

Nothing has changed except you having more options.

In other word quit whining

what changed is I wouldn't be paying an extra $25 to check out imperial city which was promised in the 1st few patches?, do you read at all?

LOL button please.

Taonnor

krayiss wrote: »

what changed is I wouldn't be paying an extra $25 to check out imperial city which was promised in the 1st few patches?, do you read at all?

No words...

sbanned_530978

1st 12 months sub $180 vs $205

I had a sub last year I wouldnt have had to pay an extra $25 for something promised (also would have gotten content months sooner, alot changes in the 2 scenarios)

Lol and No words.....

Taonnor

krayiss wrote: »

1st 12 months sub $180 vs $205

I had a sub last year I wouldnt have had to pay an extra $25 for something promised (also would have gotten content months sooner, alot changes in the 2 scenarios)

Lol and No words.....

So it's better to pay subscription till 31.08.15? The subscription model will not change the date of the release.

sbanned_530978

Taonnor wrote: »

krayiss wrote: »

1st 12 months sub $180 vs $205

I had a sub last year I wouldnt have had to pay an extra $25 for something promised (also would have gotten content months sooner, alot changes in the 2 scenarios)

Lol and No words.....

So it's better to pay subscription till 31.08.15? The subscription model will not change the date of the release.

I was responding to a comment "If imperial city was released last year, could you play it without a subscription?"

sbanned_530978

Bashev wrote: »

1) It is free if you are subscribed.
2) You received 1000 crowns at ESO TU launch - so it will cost only 15 euros/dolars/pounds.
3) If you dont want to pay - just dont buy the dlc.

2500 crowns is 2500 crowns, thats the cost of Imperial City if your not subscribed.

Again a pvp update promised in the 1st few patches not after a year of paying the subscription fee.

MorHawk

This would already be in our greasy mitts had they not chosen to drop everything for consoles. Forgive me if I'm a little cranky after being asked to shell out $25 to get something that we should have had a long time ago.

My list of content that the year's sub *did* pay for, besides fixes:
Craglorn (though that was promised for launch, so its place on this list is dubious)
Dye System
Hobbled Justice System
DSA
Undaunted pledges
Guild Tabards
Dwemer motifs

Anyone have anything else to add?

Go look at FF14's patch notes. Frigging new quests and encounters every time you turn around.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/?ym=201401

Bashev

krayiss wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

1) It is free if you are subscribed.
2) You received 1000 crowns at ESO TU launch - so it will cost only 15 euros/dolars/pounds.
3) If you dont want to pay - just dont buy the dlc.

2500 crowns is 2500 crowns, thats the cost of Imperial City if your not subscribed.

Again a pvp update promised in the 1st few patches not after a year of paying the subscription fee.

There are so many f2p games out there. You are free to go if you are not happy here.

MorHawk

Bashev wrote: »

krayiss wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

1) It is free if you are subscribed.
2) You received 1000 crowns at ESO TU launch - so it will cost only 15 euros/dolars/pounds.
3) If you dont want to pay - just dont buy the dlc.

2500 crowns is 2500 crowns, thats the cost of Imperial City if your not subscribed.

Again a pvp update promised in the 1st few patches not after a year of paying the subscription fee.

There are so many f2p games out there. You are free to go if you are not happy here.

This "go do something else if you don't like it" rationale needs to stop. We are not morally obliged to swallow everything we're fed and like it, just because we happen to enjoy the game.

It is stunning how undiscriminating some consumers can be with their hard-earned pennies just because of this bizarre misunderstanding of the concept of loyalty.

Manoekin

If Imperial City had come out when it was promised, we wouldn't have to pay because it would be a part of the base game. That's the answer for the "you would have paid for it if it came out last year" nonsense.Charging for Imperial City is like if they had charged for Craglorn upon B2P launch. Delaying content for a year to squeeze extra cash out of it is not only an insult to the existing playerbase, but I can't think of a single person that's going to come back to the game after hearing that news.

ZOS_Julien

Hi, everyone. We understand that people are going to disagree from time to time, but please remember to keep your comments respectful at all times on our forums, even when you disagree with others. Insults or other disruptive behavior do not help further discussion and can move a thread off topic quickly. We encourage sharing opinions, but we ask that they are constructively stated when doing so, as this will help keep the discussion on track. Thank you!

Rook_Master

If it was an entirely new zone, like Wrothgar, I would have no problem with it being DLC.

Adding an extension to an existing zone, the ONLY PvP zone, by the way, and putting it behind a paywall, is ridiculous. It will fracture the community, as well as raids.

What the hell am I supposed to tell people in my raid that didn't buy the DLC? Tough *** guys, drop group?

Elsonso

ZOS_Julien wrote: »

Hi, everyone. We understand that people are going to disagree from time to time, but please remember to keep your comments respectful at all times on our forums, even when you disagree with others. Insults or other disruptive behavior do not help further discussion and can move a thread off topic quickly. We encourage sharing opinions, but we ask that they are constructively stated when doing so, as this will help keep the discussion on track. Thank you!

And... Welcome to the ESO party, ZOS_Julien!

MorHawk

Rook_Master wrote: »

If it was an entirely new zone, like Wrothgar, I would have no problem with it being DLC.

Adding an extension to an existing zone, the ONLY PvP zone, by the way, and putting it behind a paywall, is ridiculous. It will fracture the community, as well as raids.

What the hell am I supposed to tell people in my raid that didn't buy the DLC? Tough *** guys, drop group?

I know, right?
"okay men, the keeps are ours, time to storm the city!"
"wait, why are there suddenly only two of us?"

AhPook_Is_Here

It's 20 bucks. Seriously, you pay that to see some garbage Hollywood time-sink in a theater. If you didn't buy all the pny and kty re-skins you prob have enough crowns sitting around still from un-subbing to just buy it (I do). I suppose the loyalty crowns were a gift or an apology, but either way they can be used to offset the cost of the content. This content was announced when the game was mandatory subscription based and their content objectives were more ambitious. They said all content past 1.6 would be store based, this is past 1.6, therefore it is store based. If you go back to your previous subscription commitment the content is inclusive, just as it was "PROMISED" originally, inclusive in a subscription.

If you are very upset about this just don't buy the content. You will still hit v16 grinding out old pvp and pve content and you can get v16 gear from scaled dungeons, cyrodiil or just buying the new stuff from other players. It isn't a very big content patch with just 2 dungeons, 1 pub dungeon some new armor skins and few motiffs. It is no Burning Crusades.

sbanned_530978

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

It's 20 bucks. Seriously, you pay that to see some garbage Hollywood time-sink in a theater. If you didn't buy all the pny and kty re-skins you prob have enough crowns sitting around still from un-subbing to just buy it (I do). I suppose the loyalty crowns were a gift or an apology, but either way they can be used to offset the cost of the content. This content was announced when the game was mandatory subscription based and their content objectives were more ambitious. They said all content past 1.6 would be store based, this is past 1.6, therefore it is store based. If you go back to your previous subscription commitment the content is inclusive, just as it was "PROMISED" originally, inclusive in a subscription.

If you are very upset about this just don't buy the content. You will still hit v16 grinding out old pvp and pve content and you can get v16 gear from scaled dungeons, cyrodiil or just buying the new stuff from other players. It isn't a very big content patch with just 2 dungeons, 1 pub dungeon some new armor skins and few motiffs. It is no Burning Crusades.

20 Sets of Super Powerful Gear, This is P2W, You are force to pay to play the game, pretty much the definition.

Leandor

This nails it. Reported for trolling. This simply can't be taken serious anymore

AhPook_Is_Here

krayiss wrote: »

noob
nouninformal
a person who is inexperienced in a particular sphere or activity, especially computing or the use of the Internet.

Etharian wrote: »

you clearly have no clue what you are talking about, you should do a little research before making assumptions.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

It's 20 bucks. Seriously, you pay that to see some garbage Hollywood time-sink in a theater. If you didn't buy all the pny and kty re-skins you prob have enough crowns sitting around still from un-subbing to just buy it (I do). I suppose the loyalty crowns were a gift or an apology, but either way they can be used to offset the cost of the content. This content was announced when the game was mandatory subscription based and their content objectives were more ambitious. They said all content past 1.6 would be store based, this is past 1.6, therefore it is store based. If you go back to your previous subscription commitment the content is inclusive, just as it was "PROMISED" originally, inclusive in a subscription.

If you are very upset about this just don't buy the content. You will still hit v16 grinding out old pvp and pve content and you can get v16 gear from scaled dungeons, cyrodiil or just buying the new stuff from other players. It isn't a very big content patch with just 2 dungeons, 1 pub dungeon some new armor skins and few motiffs. It is no Burning Crusades.

20 SETS OF SUPER POWERFUL GEAR, THIS IS P2W. YOU ARE FORCED TO PAY TO PLAY THE GAME.

You haven't seen the gear stats so you don't know that, you are just spouting your worst fears. Even then they have already said anything you can buy from the PVP section of the update can be sold on a guild vendor so you can farm nirncrux till you can buy the gear with gold, or have a friend who can keep 20 bucks in their pocket get it for your whole guild and they can farm the gear for you and sell it to you on the cheap.

sbanned_530978

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

krayiss wrote: »

noob
nouninformal
a person who is inexperienced in a particular sphere or activity, especially computing or the use of the Internet.

Etharian wrote: »

you clearly have no clue what you are talking about, you should do a little research before making assumptions.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

It's 20 bucks. Seriously, you pay that to see some garbage Hollywood time-sink in a theater. If you didn't buy all the pny and kty re-skins you prob have enough crowns sitting around still from un-subbing to just buy it (I do). I suppose the loyalty crowns were a gift or an apology, but either way they can be used to offset the cost of the content. This content was announced when the game was mandatory subscription based and their content objectives were more ambitious. They said all content past 1.6 would be store based, this is past 1.6, therefore it is store based. If you go back to your previous subscription commitment the content is inclusive, just as it was "PROMISED" originally, inclusive in a subscription.

If you are very upset about this just don't buy the content. You will still hit v16 grinding out old pvp and pve content and you can get v16 gear from scaled dungeons, cyrodiil or just buying the new stuff from other players. It isn't a very big content patch with just 2 dungeons, 1 pub dungeon some new armor skins and few motiffs. It is no Burning Crusades.

20 SETS OF SUPER POWERFUL GEAR, THIS IS P2W. YOU ARE FORCED TO PAY TO PLAY THE GAME.

You haven't seen the gear stats so you don't know that, you are just spouting your worst fears. Even then they have already said anything you can buy from the PVP section of the update can be sold on a guild vendor so you can farm nirncrux till you can buy the gear with gold, or have a friend who can keep 20 bucks in their pocket get it for your whole guild and they can farm the gear for you and sell it to you on the cheap.

Where did you read that?

AhPook_Is_Here

krayiss wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

krayiss wrote: »

noob
nouninformal
a person who is inexperienced in a particular sphere or activity, especially computing or the use of the Internet.

Etharian wrote: »

you clearly have no clue what you are talking about, you should do a little research before making assumptions.

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

It's 20 bucks. Seriously, you pay that to see some garbage Hollywood time-sink in a theater. If you didn't buy all the pny and kty re-skins you prob have enough crowns sitting around still from un-subbing to just buy it (I do). I suppose the loyalty crowns were a gift or an apology, but either way they can be used to offset the cost of the content. This content was announced when the game was mandatory subscription based and their content objectives were more ambitious. They said all content past 1.6 would be store based, this is past 1.6, therefore it is store based. If you go back to your previous subscription commitment the content is inclusive, just as it was "PROMISED" originally, inclusive in a subscription.

If you are very upset about this just don't buy the content. You will still hit v16 grinding out old pvp and pve content and you can get v16 gear from scaled dungeons, cyrodiil or just buying the new stuff from other players. It isn't a very big content patch with just 2 dungeons, 1 pub dungeon some new armor skins and few motiffs. It is no Burning Crusades.

20 SETS OF SUPER POWERFUL GEAR, THIS IS P2W. YOU ARE FORCED TO PAY TO PLAY THE GAME.

You haven't seen the gear stats so you don't know that, you are just spouting your worst fears. Even then they have already said anything you can buy from the PVP section of the update can be sold on a guild vendor so you can farm nirncrux till you can buy the gear with gold, or have a friend who can keep 20 bucks in their pocket get it for your whole guild and they can farm the gear for you and sell it to you on the cheap.

Where did you read that?

Do I look like google? Read yesterday's "official" discussion thread. It cleared up a lot of questions.