RadicalSpirit wrote: »Snip...
A lore debate, not an argument.
You made it personal when you made your "I have a life cop-out" statement, not me. The initial guy made a poor assumption and that's why it was refuted.
So how can you try to sit there and say "don't talk about you're own life" when it was you that put the spotlight on it in the first place.
Clearly I struck a nerve, because you went full defensive to deflect away from yourself, so I already know what it is.
As for trying to refute the idea of adding a new faction, new storyline, and new race... PLENTY of other games have done it, that's the point of DLC, so why on Earth would it be so absurd in this game?
I think you are forgetting, this is an MMO, not an Elder Scrolls story mode, and lore detail will always take a backseat to important thing like mechanics, PvP & in game purchases.
If they thought for a second that Dremora could feasibly be added to the game as a DLC race, and be worked into PvP, as well as financially viable & viable from a workload point of view, you could bet your house it'd be on it's way, and no amount of lore issues would change that.
I already see people complaining about the lore in this game, where a lot of things were missed, or it seems lazy, and that's because it is not important in this type of game compared to the other issues.
I'm done here, this has become boring.
How about just as a skin? That would work for me.
I want the skeleton one, but I either need to buy it or earn it and I don't want to do either.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Necromancy alert!
its a slow day at the office,sue me
tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Because dremora literally have no real reason to formally participate in mortal affairs on such a subservient and large scale.tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Long shot but I would totally buy this race on the Crown Store, individually. You did the same with the Imperial race so why not ZOS?
Granted, not all dremora are adverse to helping mortals, but to have enough of them to where they are a playable race? Their mere existence in the alliances alone would be a spit in the eye as far as lore in concerned. And if we allow them to pass that line so casually we might as well allow mountable flying dragons and flaming wings.
I know lore should be pushed in MMO settings, but that is kind of pushing the line to absurdity. I would, however, not mind if the dremora were only temporarily playable in an extended, oblivion oriented questline.
If they can't do it due to lore (Weak excuse imo), then at least add it as a morph like the skeleton costume we can get via a quest.
Because dremora literally have no real reason to formally participate in mortal affairs on such a subservient and large scale.tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Long shot but I would totally buy this race on the Crown Store, individually. You did the same with the Imperial race so why not ZOS?
Granted, not all dremora are adverse to helping mortals, but to have enough of them to where they are a playable race? Their mere existence in the alliances alone would be a spit in the eye as far as lore in concerned. And if we allow them to pass that line so casually we might as well allow mountable flying dragons and flaming wings.
I know lore should be pushed in MMO settings, but that is kind of pushing the line to absurdity. I would, however, not mind if the dremora were only temporarily playable in an extended, oblivion oriented questline.
Same here! Wish those polymorphs and states did carry an "attack on sight" penalty if used to scare common townsfolk... keep those monsters in hiding, make those apprentices realize its not funny when they play that joke as soon as they learn an illusion spell...milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »I'm STILL bitter that skeleton/draugr polymorphs, werewolf form, and Stages 2-4 vampirism don't make guards and other NPCs do their dead level best to blow you to Coldharbour and back.
How about just as a skin? That would work for me.
I want the skeleton one, but I either need to buy it or earn it and I don't want to do either.
I asked about this and everyone said that it wouldnt work due to the Daedra being undead,and lore,etc.tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Long shot but I would totally buy this race on the Crown Store, individually. You did the same with the Imperial race so why not ZOS?
While balance is already something Zenimax appears to be struggling with, I think that adding the Dremora as a playable race would further unbalance things. As someone previously mentioned, the Fighters Guild skill line would pretty much spell game over for these players who went with the Dremora class in PVP. A Dawnbreaker could potentially end-up one-shotting them, and I highly doubt that's exactly healthy to an already unhealthy PVP in this game.
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tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Long shot but I would totally buy this race on the Crown Store, individually. You did the same with the Imperial race so why not ZOS?
But we are all playing Dremora already!
How else would you explain that players can simply resurrect over and over? None of us can be from a mortal race. We are only Deadra in fleshy Men and Mer-like disguises.
Only if we weren't Dremora I'd start worrying about lore...
Perhaps we're sleepers, sent by Molag Bal to infiltrate Nirn. Imagine that kind of a plot twist! *Rilislikelaughter*!