'I am only questing' emote.

mrskinskull

Samadhi wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

...
Learn to be cautious, situationally aware, and always be ready for a fight.

Always.

Definitely this.

Not going to lie, used to be a predominately PvE player before joining ESO.
Decided to take a chance with ESO PvP and, once I got my ego out of the way, it became a dynamic and interesting new aspect of the game.

Can totally relate to the fear players feel, and the desire to try and abstain from PvP completely. That was exactly me in other MMOs.

Turns out, I was cheating myself.

PvP, especially the random PvP that comes when someone tries to gank me at a quest hub, is the best portion of this game.

If ESO were pure PvE, would have left months ago.

But would you let the passive questers pass unmolested ?

spoqster

The questers our group stumbled upon last night did not have the time to even press the emote button before the AP balloon was popped.

:-)

Samadhi

mrskinskull wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

...
Learn to be cautious, situationally aware, and always be ready for a fight.

Always.

Definitely this.

Not going to lie, used to be a predominately PvE player before joining ESO.
Decided to take a chance with ESO PvP and, once I got my ego out of the way, it became a dynamic and interesting new aspect of the game.

Can totally relate to the fear players feel, and the desire to try and abstain from PvP completely. That was exactly me in other MMOs.

Turns out, I was cheating myself.

PvP, especially the random PvP that comes when someone tries to gank me at a quest hub, is the best portion of this game.

If ESO were pure PvE, would have left months ago.

But would you let the passive questers pass unmolested ?

I have, but my doing so does not guarantee their safety.

Some days I role-play the Hero.
Some days I role-play the Bandit.

Either way, playing the game as it was designed, rather than expecting accommodation from everyone else.

Merlin13KAGL

mrskinskull wrote: »

Mr_Durva wrote: »

I was questing in the area and came across a enemy player. However as we played the lute for each other two NB's from my covenant sliced him in the back Fare well you Nord of EP. May you continue to play beautiful music.

This is why we need the emote.

No, this is why you don't bring a lute to a sword fight.

(I could actually visualize this as I read it, and it amused me some.)

DenMoria

Samadhi wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

... Why? Oh Why? Do they give you that option at level 10 where the only thing that's going to happen is that you're going to get squished?
...

Regarding your other question, every 30 days Cyrodiil provides the player with a prize based on how many Alliance Points they generated in that time frame.
The timer starts over, but nothing else changes.
You can come and go at your leisure.

Whew! That's a relief. Eventually I get over my terror from my initial visit and go back for more masochistic activities.

Thanks!

mrskinskull

DenMoria wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

... Why? Oh Why? Do they give you that option at level 10 where the only thing that's going to happen is that you're going to get squished?
...

Regarding your other question, every 30 days Cyrodiil provides the player with a prize based on how many Alliance Points they generated in that time frame.
The timer starts over, but nothing else changes.
You can come and go at your leisure.

Whew! That's a relief. Eventually I get over my terror from my initial visit and go back for mokre masochistic activities.

Thanks!

That comic is really funny.

Mr_Durva

Samadhi wrote: »

Mr_Durva wrote: »

I was questing in the area and came across a enemy player. However as we played the lute for each other two NB's from my covenant sliced him in the back Fare well you Nord of EP. May you continue to play beautiful music.

So you were the bait for the Ambush.
Nice.

I actually did not know they were coming. I was only trying to do the dungeons when an enemy came up to me. I feel horrible because now they assume I tricked them into letting their guard down XD

DenMoria

One last question though. Obviously level 10 is WAAAAAYYYYYY too low to go to Cyrodil, but, is there a more optimal level to give it a try and be really, really careful, say level 20 or 30 or 50 or V14 or with 10K CP?

Just wondering. I do want to give it a chance, but I don't play well with others. I get stabby and that gets me killed.

Merlin13KAGL

You have to bear in mind, no emote is going to change what someone is going to do.

Most that have some level of experience (translated: no longer getting their ass handed to them religiously) will generally leave be someone they do not consider a threat. So, make yourself not be a threat.

Engage first, and expect to get slaughtered, though. Problem is, you never know which kind of person that is until it happens.

So, always expect it's going to happen.

Someone's always near. Someone's always watching. Crouch, use the nooks and crannies the game provides (even in delves), and know that the next enemy player that's working on the same quest you are may not live by the same rules as you do (or may be vengeful as he just came across the same circumstance himself.)

The further you get from home, the more cautious you'll want to be.

Also, @Samadhi speaks the truth.

Engage in PvP with extreme prejudice...as it will grow on you.

Xendyn

DenMoria wrote: »

One last question though. Obviously level 10 is WAAAAAYYYYYY too low to go to Cyrodil, but, is there a more optimal level to give it a try and be really, really careful, say level 20 or 30 or 50 or V14 or with 10K CP?

Just wondering. I do want to give it a chance, but I don't play well with others. I get stabby and that gets me killed.

Go at 10 and do the tutorial and get the skill points. Choose one of the non vet campaigns, for sure. Come back when you get weapon swap at 15. Grouping is actually your best bet out there unless you're really awesome or a sneaky ganker type.
Non vet PVP is actually some of the best

mrskinskull

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

You have to bear in mind, no emote is going to change what someone is going to do.

Most that have some level of experience (translated: no longer getting their ass handed to them religiously) will generally leave be someone they do not consider a threat. So, make yourself not be a threat.

Engage first, and expect to get slaughtered, though. Problem is, you never know which kind of person that is until it happens.

So, always expect it's going to happen.

Someone's always near. Someone's always watching. Crouch, use the nooks and crannies the game provides (even in delves), and know that the next enemy player that's working on the same quest you are may not live by the same rules as you do (or may be vengeful as he just came across the same circumstance himself.)

The further you get from home, the more cautious you'll want to be.

Also, @Samadhi speaks the truth.

Engage in PvP with extreme prejudice...as it will grow on you.

I don't know about that. Like I said earlier, I would like to be able to leave people to their questing but can't be sure of their intent. I tend to be the predator in the equation, to be clear.

Merlin13KAGL

mrskinskull wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

You have to bear in mind, no emote is going to change what someone is going to do.

Most that have some level of experience (translated: no longer getting their ass handed to them religiously) will generally leave be someone they do not consider a threat. So, make yourself not be a threat.

Engage first, and expect to get slaughtered, though. Problem is, you never know which kind of person that is until it happens.

So, always expect it's going to happen.

Someone's always near. Someone's always watching. Crouch, use the nooks and crannies the game provides (even in delves), and know that the next enemy player that's working on the same quest you are may not live by the same rules as you do (or may be vengeful as he just came across the same circumstance himself.)

The further you get from home, the more cautious you'll want to be.

Also, @Samadhi speaks the truth.

Engage in PvP with extreme prejudice...as it will grow on you.

I don't know about that. Like I said earlier, I would like to be able to leave people to their questing but can't be sure of their intent. I tend to be the predator in the equation, to be clear.

Ahhhhh...you're one of those...

Interesting thing about that, the emote still would not guarantee the action...

Sometimes the greatest hunts involve animals pretending to be wounded. (Look at me...I'm lost and looking at my map in the middle of the road...)

DenMoria

Xendyn wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

One last question though. Obviously level 10 is WAAAAAYYYYYY too low to go to Cyrodil, but, is there a more optimal level to give it a try and be really, really careful, say level 20 or 30 or 50 or V14 or with 10K CP?

Just wondering. I do want to give it a chance, but I don't play well with others. I get stabby and that gets me killed.

Go at 10 and do the tutorial and get the skill points. Choose one of the non vet campaigns, for sure. Come back when you get weapon swap at 15. Grouping is actually your best bet out there unless you're really awesome or a sneaky ganker type.
Non vet PVP is actually some of the best

I am going to do so. Both my Sorceress and my Nightblade are at 10 now and should be able to hold their own for a little while. It would be good to get the experience, since I've never done PvP or grouping before (at least not successfully).

Merlin13KAGL

DenMoria wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

One last question though. Obviously level 10 is WAAAAAYYYYYY too low to go to Cyrodil, but, is there a more optimal level to give it a try and be really, really careful, say level 20 or 30 or 50 or V14 or with 10K CP?

Just wondering. I do want to give it a chance, but I don't play well with others. I get stabby and that gets me killed.

Go at 10 and do the tutorial and get the skill points. Choose one of the non vet campaigns, for sure. Come back when you get weapon swap at 15. Grouping is actually your best bet out there unless you're really awesome or a sneaky ganker type.
Non vet PVP is actually some of the best

I am going to do so. Both my Sorceress and my Nightblade are at 10 now and should be able to hold their own for a little while. It would be good to get the experience, since I've never done PvP or grouping before (at least not successfully).

Orrrrrrrrrrr maybe just the skillpoints for now.

If you wander beyond the gates, expect to stealth, a lot.

Just don't let your initial experience be your only experience. When you start to get frustrated, do something else for a bit.

Cyrodiil is best enjoyed in small doses, at first.

(Good luck! Kill well.)

Nestor

DenMoria wrote: »

I notice they only give you 30 days to go. Does that mean that, if you're not willing to go get squished immediately, you can never again access Cyrodil? Do you have to go at least once to have access to it in the future?

I'm new, so I'm just wondering.

I never noticed the 30 day message, but then I never even thought of going to Cyrodiil at L10. I only have two characters that have entered a campaign. Both of them after they achieved VR Ranks. And both of these characters were parked for about two months at L30 or so, so no way was there a 30 limit on them.

Jennifur_Vultee

Um...its a PVP zone. I'm sorry to have to say this but...if you go to Cyrodiil you should expect to be attacked by other players. To expect a free pass to quest defeats the point of it being a PVP zone. If you choose to quest in Cyrodiil be prepared to defend yourself even if you aren't out actively hunting other players because...they are out hunting you.

Xendyn

As Merlin up there said, an emote is no guarantee. In Cyro, you are walking AP and an enemy to be killed.
Keep that in mind at all times

That said, I run mostly with a group as I'm no L33T type player. Too old and broken, don't have the twitch skills anymore.
I never played pvp in any game before but decided to give this one a try as the idea of a full on War (AvAvA) seemed different enough to give it a shot. I first ventured out with a handful of guildies as we learned what to do and how to play. I found I enjoyed it enough that I started joining pug groups from Zone.
One night, I was running with what I thought was a pug group and we were doing exceptionally well. Suddenly someone came in TS with an announcement the "Raid Night" was about to begin and only guild members could stay.
So I joined them and I've been there ever since, for months now.

These days, Cyro is about all I do as there is nothing new in PVE and the same 'ol, same 'ol of the mechanics just kinda bore me

Acrolas

Just carry a stack of Mara scrolls around so you can turn every "Questing, bro?" into a "Questing Bro!"

technohic

Samadhi wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

... Why? Oh Why? Do they give you that option at level 10 where the only thing that's going to happen is that you're going to get squished?
...

Regarding your other question, every 30 days Cyrodiil provides the player with a prize based on how many Alliance Points they generated in that time frame.
The timer starts over, but nothing else changes.
You can come and go at your leisure.

That cartoon is epic. LOL Fagerfall 4 life!

Merlin13KAGL

Nestor wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

I notice they only give you 30 days to go. Does that mean that, if you're not willing to go get squished immediately, you can never again access Cyrodil? Do you have to go at least once to have access to it in the future?

I'm new, so I'm just wondering.

I never noticed the 30 day message, but then I never even thought of going to Cyrodiil at L10. I only have two characters that have entered a campaign. Both of them after they achieved VR Ranks. And both of these characters were parked for about two months at L30 or so, so no way was there a 30 limit on them.

@Nestor, @Denmoria , it's just a system produced email, so it shows a 'expires in 30 days' tag.

You can enter Cyrodiil at any time after Level 10, and system messages like that, plus attachments, generally don't expire (even if they say they will.)

CapnPhoton

I can see this getting abused quite regularly. It would seem to be an easy way to get around in the war under the guise of minding one's own business.

DenMoria

CapnPhoton wrote: »

I can see this getting abused quite regularly. It would seem to be an easy way to get around in the war under the guise of minding one's own business.

Well... Yes. Isn't that kind of the point?

I don't care about your stinkin' war. I'm only in it for the loot.

Who wants to be Emperor when you can be a slave to a Daedric Lord and be granted near cosmic powers?

Rinmaethodain

It takes a total a hole to kill someone inside a dungeon or in questing hub.

They are far enough from keeps and strategic war points so its obvious when someone is there, he just minds his own business and wants to do pve content.

Nestor

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

@Nestor, @Denmoria , it's just a system produced email, so it shows a 'expires in 30 days' tag.

You can enter Cyrodiil at any time after Level 10, and system messages like that, plus attachments, generally don't expire (even if they say they will.)

Oh, that 30 day expiration notice. Thank you I was racking my brain trying to remember if the AvA invitation ever had a time limit on it.

Dracane

mrskinskull wrote: »

Is there any interest in adding a 'I'm only questing' emote or a 'truce' emote for the people in PvP running quests.

I know it won't always work to ask your enemy for a temp truce but there are times when I don't really want to kill a lone quester but I just can't be sure he won't attack me for my trusting nature.

I kinda feel, like this is dedicated to me

Dracane

Preyfar wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

Wouldn't matter. Somebody will still attack you and slaughter you, no matter what you do.

That's because there's no benefit to letting an enemy player go. They may be questing... they may be requesting backup to help take you down. It's hard to know, and most players make the assumption of self preservation (kill or be killed).

Wish they would do that That's what I want. Wish they would call all their friends and then we can have a niiiice slaughter *-* more, bring me MORE

Samadhi

MaximusDargus wrote: »

It takes a total a hole to kill someone inside a dungeon or in questing hub.

They are far enough from keeps and strategic war points so its obvious when someone is there, he just minds his own business and wants to do pve content.

Alternatively, he or she is far enough from a PvE zone that he or she must clearly want to fight, or would have otherwise not entered the PvP map.

But feel free to insult people who play in the manner that the zone is designed for, as disrespecting and degrading others is definitely the mark of someone who is not "a total a hole."

DenMoria

MaximusDargus wrote: »

It takes a total a hole to kill someone inside a dungeon or in questing hub.

They are far enough from keeps and strategic war points so its obvious when someone is there, he just minds his own business and wants to do pve content.

Fortunately, there are no a**hol** in the MMO or PvP environment. Nope, there never have been and never will be. It's right now that I'm worried about!

QuebraRegra

DenMoria wrote: »

Wouldn't matter. Somebody will still attack you and slaughter you, no matter what you do.

That's why Cyrodil scares me so much.

I'm a weenie.

No joke that...

So no @#*&, there I wuz on my way back from scouting on the other side o' the map, sneaking the whole way to stay off the radar, and avoiding the main roads. When I was about 3/4 of the way back and came over a hill I noticed off in the distance some dude-bro popping his head out from behind a tree several yards away. He hadn't seen me, so I watched for a few minutes, then I noticed about half a dozen other lurkers dodging in an out behind the trees. Turns out they were all NPC bandits just waiting for someone to roll though their little cut. As there were cliffs on either side I was forced to go thu, but managed to trim out the outliers without being noticed. Made it back with out getting skewered.

The lesson here is that even beyond the other players the who @#*& place is crawling with hostiles. Get off the road!
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