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Derra

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

Etaniel

Derra wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

And i would agree with you

kkravaritieb17_ESO

Jhunn wrote: »

I think it's safe to say you got smallscaled

Erondil

Derra wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

Well good thing we don't have 24 active people in guild, and some of us wouldn't join a group of this size anyway

Tavore1138

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Yes, I read but obviously you hadn't read the series of posts that generated the one of mine you chose to reply to as I had stated my guild (Legio), I don't state my toon name 'cos I am just a normal player and it feels too much like going 'don't you know who i am!' - thus when you replied I, mistakenly, assumed you were replying to the whole set of posts not simply the last in the set. I do read and assumed you had done the same.

Etaniel

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Yes, I read but obviously you hadn't read the series of posts that generated the one of mine you chose to reply to as I had stated my guild (Legio), I don't state my toon name 'cos I am just a normal player and it feels too much like going 'don't you know who i am!' - thus when you replied I, mistakenly, assumed you were replying to the whole set of posts not simply the last in the set. I do read and assumed you had done the same.

There is a difference between not reading what you have written in this thread, and quoting stuff that you didn't say, which is what you did in this case. I didn't say anything about your guild, I was talking about players in general.

Lastobeth

Etaniel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

And i would agree with you

And I would agree also. It's a good job then that I've never been in a BS grp with 24 people and I'd leave the group long before it got to that size.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Lastobeth wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

And i would agree with you

And I would agree also. It's a good job then that I've never been in a BS grp with 24 people and I'd leave the group long before it got to that size.

24 BS people wouldn't cause more lag cause we'd wipe all the groups before they could start to cause it

Derra

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Lastobeth wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

And i would agree with you

And I would agree also. It's a good job then that I've never been in a BS grp with 24 people and I'd leave the group long before it got to that size.

24 BS people wouldn't cause more lag cause we'd wipe all the groups before they could start to cause it

But imagine the amount of pugs needed to satisfy the hunger of such a grp.

PURPLE245

what i dont get people see that they are causing lag and they carry on then come here and cry about it.....

Etaniel

Lastobeth wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

And i would agree with you

And I would agree also. It's a good job then that I've never been in a BS grp with 24 people and I'd leave the group long before it got to that size.

It's good to see you back on here @Lastobeth

Lastobeth

Etaniel wrote: »

Lastobeth wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

And i would agree with you

And I would agree also. It's a good job then that I've never been in a BS grp with 24 people and I'd leave the group long before it got to that size.

It's good to see you back on here @Lastobeth

Thanks. Not sure if my return to the forum / game will be for any decent time... especially if BDO captures my interest. We'll see. The game has changed in the past couple of months I've not been logging in - and certainly not for the better!

Etaniel

Lastobeth wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Lastobeth wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

And i would agree with you

And I would agree also. It's a good job then that I've never been in a BS grp with 24 people and I'd leave the group long before it got to that size.

It's good to see you back on here @Lastobeth

Thanks. Not sure if my return to the forum / game will be for any decent time... especially if BDO captures my interest. We'll see. The game has changed in the past couple of months I've not been logging in - and certainly not for the better!

Yeah the game isn't in a great state, hasn't been for a long while, but forum banter is always top notch goodness ! With the occasional Leg Mage post, NA zergling rants etc
Forum PvP best PvP!

Aiphaton

[img]Why Azuras makes Fun yes you are right Smallscale isnt possible Evry Faction just want to win the campaign and are like we run in blobs to win If we find one player we just zerg him down and tbg him till the infinity[/img]

Isbilen

Lastobeth wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Lastobeth wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

And i would agree with you

And I would agree also. It's a good job then that I've never been in a BS grp with 24 people and I'd leave the group long before it got to that size.

It's good to see you back on here @Lastobeth

Thanks. Not sure if my return to the forum / game will be for any decent time... especially if BDO captures my interest. We'll see. The game has changed in the past couple of months I've not been logging in - and certainly not for the better!

Half of Cyrodiil was already there last weekend, join us! Zenimax had their chance, two years and the game still isn't playable almost half the day.

Here is a picture I sewed together from like 20 seconds of chat on 1 channel on 1 server, early in the morning:

Lastobeth

Isbilen wrote: »

Lastobeth wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Lastobeth wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?

Did you even read? Did you? I don't even even know who the heck you are what guild you are in, and in fact I didn't mention any guild in my last post, so why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say? I clearly said, the more people, the more lag. Where the f did I talk about banana squad and whether or not 24 banana squad members would lag less than 24 randoms?

Bold satement: If anything 24 ppl of banana squad create more lag than the average blobgrp just because they´re better at gathering the herd before guiding them like lambs to the slaughter.

Partially it´s playstyle related partially it´s simply the number of ppl around.

And i would agree with you

And I would agree also. It's a good job then that I've never been in a BS grp with 24 people and I'd leave the group long before it got to that size.

It's good to see you back on here @Lastobeth

Thanks. Not sure if my return to the forum / game will be for any decent time... especially if BDO captures my interest. We'll see. The game has changed in the past couple of months I've not been logging in - and certainly not for the better!

Half of Cyrodiil was already there last weekend, join us! Zenimax had their chance, two years and the game still isn't playable almost half the day.

Here is a picture I sewed together from like 20 seconds of chat on 1 channel on 1 server, early in the morning:

Yeah I have conq pack so I will be around for sure!

Cogo

Was a good run, with Yellows claiming the win, again.

Respect all around for all who fight to win the campaign, in all 3 alliances.
Until next time!

Vivecc

congratz everyone in Azura on that awesome close cycle
AD1st
EP 2nd
DC 3rd
well played

Taresgos

Congratz to our nightcappers that were stronger than them blue and red opponents in this last cycle as main campaign. Hail the Queen!
thx to Elite for many many unplayable evenings in this month, wish you to continue to do it despite "fixes" that are coming with next patch.
amount of blue spies on aldmeri side in february cycle was...hmm...it's like a next level in alliance wars, atleast thx that you going this "way" instead of Elite "way".

p.s.: r.i.p. azura's star 2015-2016

Baragorath

Taresgos wrote: »

Congratz to our nightcappers that were stronger than them blue and red opponents in this last cycle as main campaign. Hail the Queen!
thx to Elite for many many unplayable evenings in this month, wish you to continue to do it despite "fixes" that are coming with next patch.
amount of blue spies on aldmeri side in february cycle was...hmm...it's like a next level in alliance wars, atleast thx that you going this "way" instead of Elite "way".

p.s.: r.i.p. azura's star 2015-2016

Would like to thank you deeply for all your whispers and cries on forum.

We will miss your pink tabard as you are only challenge currently on Azura.

Take care in real life.....

Erondil

Baragorath wrote: »

Taresgos wrote: »

Congratz to our nightcappers that were stronger than them blue and red opponents in this last cycle as main campaign. Hail the Queen!
thx to Elite for many many unplayable evenings in this month, wish you to continue to do it despite "fixes" that are coming with next patch.
amount of blue spies on aldmeri side in february cycle was...hmm...it's like a next level in alliance wars, atleast thx that you going this "way" instead of Elite "way".

p.s.: r.i.p. azura's star 2015-2016

Would like to thank you deeply for all your whispers and cries on forum.

We will miss your pink tabard as you are only challenge currently on Azura.

Take care in real life.....

Taresgos doesnt have a pink tabard he is just the best rapid regen spammer leecher. Dont mix up pls he has nothing to do with us

Jhunn

Baragorath wrote: »

Taresgos wrote: »

Congratz to our nightcappers that were stronger than them blue and red opponents in this last cycle as main campaign. Hail the Queen!
thx to Elite for many many unplayable evenings in this month, wish you to continue to do it despite "fixes" that are coming with next patch.
amount of blue spies on aldmeri side in february cycle was...hmm...it's like a next level in alliance wars, atleast thx that you going this "way" instead of Elite "way".

p.s.: r.i.p. azura's star 2015-2016

Would like to thank you deeply for all your whispers and cries on forum.

We will miss your pink tabard as you are only challenge currently on Azura.

Take care in real life.....

I guess most groups aren't a challenge when you stack 2 or 3 full raids on top of each other.

Oh well.

El Amanecer

Thanks for all the fun guys, I hope you enjoyed the campaign as much as me this time around. Without exception i can say this was one of the most intense campaigns for me since release. I am sure that both DC and EP took delight the emperorship of both myself and Tuvi. Unfortunately the devs have decided that Azura should no longer be competitive so see you most likely on Trueflame. We Dominion completed our impossible mission to win the campaign without the stacked raids and multiple guilds cooperation. Perhaps now you will stop stacking 2-3 raids in the same place and learn to improve.
Additionally i'd like to thank the Well-Fitted Squad of Abraxus, you gave us a lot of funny moments which defused situation wonderfully. As to Decimation I hope we didn't disturb your quest to lag the server too much during our time on Azura. Good luck in your future lag cr.
Good luck in your future lag creation. I cannot finish without a special mention to the Pacts finest player.
Foxy, the hundreds of hours you spent with a 24m raid in sneak hiding from us in and around BB, BM, Brindle whilst Pact was taking Covenant keeps without resistance is one of the main reasons why they came in 2nd. Congratulations!

AbraXuSeXile

El Amanecer wrote: »

Thanks for all the fun guys, I hope you enjoyed the campaign as much as me this time around. Without exception i can say this was one of the most intense campaigns for me since release. I am sure that both DC and EP took delight the emperorship of both myself and Tuvi. Unfortunately the devs have decided that Azura should no longer be competitive so see you most likely on Trueflame. We Dominion completed our impossible mission to win the campaign without the stacked raids and multiple guilds cooperation. Perhaps now you will stop stacking 2-3 raids in the same place and learn to improve.
Additionally i'd like to thank the Well-Fitted Squad of Abraxus, you gave us a lot of funny moments which defused situation wonderfully. As to Decimation I hope we didn't disturb your quest to lag the server too much during our time on Azura. Good luck in your future lag cr.
Good luck in your future lag creation. I cannot finish without a special mention to the Pacts finest player.
Foxy, the hundreds of hours you spent with a 24m raid in sneak hiding from us in and around BB, BM, Brindle whilst Pact was taking Covenant keeps without resistance is one of the main reasons why they came in 2nd. Congratulations!

You posted in the wrong section.

Here you go http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/fiction-roleplaying

Drungly

2 pages without Kris posting anything, what the hell happened.

LarsS

Thanks everyone for a fun campaign! We hope to meet you in Trueflame or elswhere.

Sizaansil

Taresgos wrote: »

amount of blue spies on aldmeri side in february cycle was...hmm...it's like a next level in alliance wars, atleast thx that you going this "way" instead of Elite "way".

No idea what you're talking about

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Jhunn wrote: »

@El Amanecer It's kinda hilarious watching you cry about people causing lag. Yours and Tuvis 'delightful' emp-trains with 24 people tryharding and intentionally popping meteors on a 12-man group on the stairs - not to mention with 40 other AD pugs around. My ping is never below 400 when I see you running about. You're a distasteful bunch of hypocrites and no better than Decimation, Aetherius or any other brainless, r*tarded lag-train. But please - do keep telling yourself you're better.

We trolled you one time and you still crying about it? Really? And sure game is gnna lag when you have all faction vs 1 group. 400 ping is actually good for eso or didn't you realise the game your playing atm.
When you choose to run into us, you die and then cry about it. We give you plenty of opportunities to avoid us like letting you farm on the bridge / leaving you when we meet in the field etc you want us to stop that?

T3hOwnage69

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

@El Amanecer It's kinda hilarious watching you cry about people causing lag. Yours and Tuvis 'delightful' emp-trains with 24 people tryharding and intentionally popping meteors on a 12-man group on the stairs - not to mention with 40 other AD pugs around. My ping is never below 400 when I see you running about. You're a distasteful bunch of hypocrites and no better than Decimation, Aetherius or any other brainless, r*tarded lag-train. But please - do keep telling yourself you're better.

We trolled you one time and you still crying about it? Really? And sure game is gnna lag when you have all faction vs 1 group. 400 ping is actually good for eso or didn't you realise the game your playing atm.
When you choose to run into us, you die and then cry about it. We give you plenty of opportunities to avoid us like letting you farm on the bridge / leaving you when we meet in the field etc you want us to stop that?

unfriendly fire is constantly abusing fall dmg bug with meteor spamm if its a joke or not its ***

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

T3hOwnage69 wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

@El Amanecer It's kinda hilarious watching you cry about people causing lag. Yours and Tuvis 'delightful' emp-trains with 24 people tryharding and intentionally popping meteors on a 12-man group on the stairs - not to mention with 40 other AD pugs around. My ping is never below 400 when I see you running about. You're a distasteful bunch of hypocrites and no better than Decimation, Aetherius or any other brainless, r*tarded lag-train. But please - do keep telling yourself you're better.

We trolled you one time and you still crying about it? Really? And sure game is gnna lag when you have all faction vs 1 group. 400 ping is actually good for eso or didn't you realise the game your playing atm.
When you choose to run into us, you die and then cry about it. We give you plenty of opportunities to avoid us like letting you farm on the bridge / leaving you when we meet in the field etc you want us to stop that?

unfriendly fire is constantly abusing fall dmg bug with meteor spamm if its a joke or not its ***

yes its clearly fall damage every time we wipe you when you try and jump us on a flag where there are no stairs. Lighten up please