Azura Star EU

Tavore1138 · February 2016

Cogo wrote: »

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

I really doubt anyone asked anyone to come, its more of a case of other campaigns dead during the day.

No, Legio got asked to come to azura more than once in the past few weeks

Can someone ask them nicely to go away? Not that it matters much for the remaining weeks anyway...

Ok, dumb question. Who is Legio and why would they get asked to leave?

And on the same topic, are you seriously "Discussing" why/if/how your enemies brings more allies?
If this is just sarcastic and I don't get that, fine. Dumb orc.

If not, really?!?! What the hell is wrong with asking people you know to join you in Cyro?
I do that every day. What am I missing?

Legio Mortuum, DC PvP/PvE guild - normally homed on Trueflame but with friends who play on Azura. We've spent a couple of hours in TF over the last few nights because AD & EP on TF seem to be taking a break, also because we're helping out allies and friends.

But to be fair given the state of the game even 1 extra player probably adds 5 to the ping rate so I can understand the sentiment and at least he's asking politely!

Cogo · February 2016

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

I really doubt anyone asked anyone to come, its more of a case of other campaigns dead during the day.

No, Legio got asked to come to azura more than once in the past few weeks

Can someone ask them nicely to go away? Not that it matters much for the remaining weeks anyway...

Ok, dumb question. Who is Legio and why would they get asked to leave?

And on the same topic, are you seriously "Discussing" why/if/how your enemies brings more allies?
If this is just sarcastic and I don't get that, fine. Dumb orc.

If not, really?!?! What the hell is wrong with asking people you know to join you in Cyro?
I do that every day. What am I missing?

Legio Mortuum, DC PvP/PvE guild - normally homed on Trueflame but with friends who play on Azura. We've spent a couple of hours in TF over the last few nights because AD & EP on TF seem to be taking a break, also because we're helping out allies and friends.

But to be fair given the state of the game even 1 extra player probably adds 5 to the ping rate so I can understand the sentiment and at least he's asking politely!

Even if you are right about the ping (which you are not), Azura is full every night. Locked is the same number, no matter what they are. I guess this is Blue internal things so you guys bash your heads with it. But I much rather have any group who works together then pact 200 pugs who yells LFG for 4 hours, or until Elite logs on and grabs em.

I really don't understand you guys thinking, but hey, your blue. (Mrs Moderator, I mean all respect to my enemy, the DC char. Not the person behind it)

I welcome any new team to see what they can do. Exile has been the only "power" that actually works for the campaign.
I don't give a **** about blue internal drama. I' like to meet this Legio Mortuum. Foxy is some other fancy name (I know who controls him), but there have been a lot of new blue names lately and I havn't really seen any bigger teamwork.

Banana squad was fun for a while, but 20 wipes to us against 4 vs them gets tedious when you realize, they are simply better.
The 24 man yellow group who log on 7am and flips the map, crown emp are ruthlessly organized. I have no idea who they are, but russian special forces comes to mind.

I hope war stays on Azura, but dont keep my hope up.

Tuvi · February 2016

Jhunn wrote: »

There we go @ZOS_MollyH. Better?

isn't a full dialogue, right?
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Now should be better.

roigseguib16_ESO · February 2016

Jhunn wrote: »

There we go @ZOS_MollyH. Better?

I call it fake. Deal with ur ego.

Tavore1138 · February 2016

Cogo wrote: »

I don't give a **** about blue internal drama. I' like to meet this Legio Mortuum.

So. Much. Drama.

And not just within DC either this stuff seems to be non-stop on PvP (maybe just EU?) - there seems to be a subset of players who are very concerned about how the game should best be played - and that would be the way they choose to play it of course - and how everyone who feels differently is not as good as they are... it sometimes feels a little like being an involuntary part of some soap opera scripted by an angst laden teen.

Some guilds hate other guilds, some GMs hate other GMs. Angry whispers from people you've just killed to tell you how much better than you they are or how they'd beat you in a duel.

I'd never really played an MMO before and I find the whole thing fascinating

themdogesbite · February 2016

Azura is a even bigger *** then usual tonight, thank god for stacking mutliple guild groups in the same keeps. It's not liek anyone of us enjoys resonding skills anyways.

Cogo · February 2016

Azura is locked right now with 0 lag. What are you doing? Seriously, we cant find you.

Etaniel · February 2016

Tuvi wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

There we go @ZOS_MollyH. Better?

isn't a full dialogue, right?

Now should be better.

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

I don't give a **** about blue internal drama. I' like to meet this Legio Mortuum.

So. Much. Drama.

And not just within DC either this stuff seems to be non-stop on PvP (maybe just EU?) - there seems to be a subset of players who are very concerned about how the game should best be played - and that would be the way they choose to play it of course - and how everyone who feels differently is not as good as they are... it sometimes feels a little like being an involuntary part of some soap opera scripted by an angst laden teen.

Some guilds hate other guilds, some GMs hate other GMs. Angry whispers from people you've just killed to tell you how much better than you they are or how they'd beat you in a duel.

I'd never really played an MMO before and I find the whole thing fascinating

It's not about telling people how the game should be played, it's about making them realise that the lag they complain about is directly caused by their playstyle, not exactly the same thing

themdogesbite · February 2016

Cogo wrote: »

Azura is locked right now with 0 lag. What are you doing? Seriously, we cant find you.

The only "playable" fight i had yesterday on Azura dureing the evening

Cogo · February 2016

Etaniel wrote: »

Tuvi wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

There we go @ZOS_MollyH. Better?

isn't a full dialogue, right?

Now should be better.

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

I don't give a **** about blue internal drama. I' like to meet this Legio Mortuum.

So. Much. Drama.

And not just within DC either this stuff seems to be non-stop on PvP (maybe just EU?) - there seems to be a subset of players who are very concerned about how the game should best be played - and that would be the way they choose to play it of course - and how everyone who feels differently is not as good as they are... it sometimes feels a little like being an involuntary part of some soap opera scripted by an angst laden teen.

Some guilds hate other guilds, some GMs hate other GMs. Angry whispers from people you've just killed to tell you how much better than you they are or how they'd beat you in a duel.

I'd never really played an MMO before and I find the whole thing fascinating

It's not about telling people how the game should be played, it's about making them realise that the lag they complain about is directly caused by their playstyle, not exactly the same thing

And like most drama, have no base in reality?

Cyrodiil performance during prime time, 20:00 - 22:00, Is server wide and effects all zones and players.

Players are testing this constantly to find ways around lag. By doing the same number of abilities, in the same team and situation at different times. I lag like hell with 50-100 players around any keep at 21:00.

The same situation, often with THE SAME 50-100 players, do not lag at 18:00, 09:00, 15:00 and every possible time I have tested this.

I run "almost" lag free during huge siege battle, as long as they are outside of prime evening time.

The reason for lag are 95% LOCAL.
I am sorry to sound so harsh, but this is getting silly how many players refuse to even try to get less lag, and complains about any reason that they can not effect themselves. Some players don't want help and rather whine. Fine. Most players DON'T want lag if they can help it.

This fairy tale about players CAUSES all YOUR lag has to stop.
SOME server lag, Yes! From a huge number of factors that only ZoS can know something about.

It's so simple to test this yourself. Do I need to describe it?

I'll share my Anti lag list
Confirmed reasons for lag, or increased performance for all kinda of players, with different client setups and ISP locations.

This list works.

Merchant addon lags you in Cyrodiil, even when they are disabled. Removal of the addon + restart of ESO fixes this source of lag. NOTE: Your merchant addon will also be removed. Some players accepts lag to have this.
Minimap causes lag around keeps and resources. Disable and restart fixes this source of lag.
Increased lag spikes which starts suddenly, where you did not lag before = restart of ESO cures this (And it NEVER hurts with 30 seconds reboot of windows.)
ESO mining nodes scanner / treasure map scanner or any addon that "scans", lags you. Fix = disable before Cyro and restart ESO.
ESO "Grass" setting = Turn it off
Some browsers and active software steals resources from ESO. Dont start them fixes this.
Nvidia Experience or other active software which windows handles with priority over ESO, needs to be removed to stop effecting ESO performance.
Torrents / Streaming / ISP / Network activity is effecting ESO. Don't run them, will stop this.
Windows Update - Microsoft throws out system patches (Techy techy stuff) every other week. Run the update and restart your computer, still increase performance in areas you had no idea even existed.
Graphic Driver update - It's silly how common you solve a lot of game problems by update your drivers.
An active Youtube music playlist effects you, VERY LITTLE. But does effect your performance.

Windows 10
Microsoft have done something new in windows 10, which runs everything better in WIn 10, then Win 7 or 8.
I am married to Win 7, 64 bit, and still cheats on my Win 10 partner.

But, Win 10 runs ESO better then any other Windows. (now, not 6 months ago).

RAM
Anything under 4GB RAM causes lag. RAM is the cheapest hardware upgrade you can do. 8 -12 -16, does not matter. Over 8 fixes tons of causes for lag.

SSD Drive as OS and ESO disc.
SSD drive is a very expensive hardware, which in many systems and games doesn't really have that big impact. They have a huge impact on performance in ESO. This is because of I/O. How "fast" your system handles millions of small data. Not to be mixed up with how fast your drive is.

Got cash? Get a SSD as "C:"

CCleaner or any system tool that cleans up junk in windows system and browsers
Windows and browsers are masters of using your computer to anything other then ESO.

You have a fast and cool car, which windows force you to get stuck in traffic with. A cleaner program lets you drive at 3 am instead. WROOOOOM

Source for this list:
I do not lag, when you do. Others do not lag, when you do.

Please stop spreading false info that ALL your lag are caused from the server or what OTHER players do. No one can cause lag "on purpose". Even if they did, THEY WOULD LAG TOO!

The is no chance that ZoS would allow any players to have a LAG attack button.
This is not the same as many players are PLAYING.

ZoS confirmed that non vet campaign works better for most. ONE out of MANY have a base in a smaller number of active abilities and their software mechanics. ONE, not all.

Test this list, or not, I don't care. This is only some fixes that players can do themselves.

I am serious. I do not lag, when you do.
Why? I don't know. I do know that It is impossible for anyone to not lag, if 100% of YOUR lag is ESO/Server.

This list are reasons for lag, that's all.

Jhunn · February 2016

@Cogo

ZOS themselves even admitted the servers are [snip]. When I have +300 ping from 2PM-2AM in Azura, no, it's not on my side. Other campaigns are fine, PvE zones are fine aswell. Trueflame turns into the same piece of sh*t later in the night.

Actually I'm pretty sure I'm just getting horribly trolled by you right now, Cogo.

Cogo · February 2016

themdogesbite wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Azura is locked right now with 0 lag. What are you doing? Seriously, we cant find you.

The only "playable" fight i had yesterday on Azura dureing the evening

Sure, and that's how pact took half the map from you yesterday? Because AD didn't have zerg teams going NUTS on DC?

Pact worked freaking awesome yesterday. ALL of us. Even zone chat was different. No b!tching.....was scary!

Azura was locked from 18:00 to 2 am. Locked = the same number. Explain that?

Erondil · February 2016

Cogo wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Azura is locked right now with 0 lag. What are you doing? Seriously, we cant find you.

The only "playable" fight i had yesterday on Azura dureing the evening

Sure, and that's how pact took half the map from you yesterday? Because AD didn't have zerg teams going NUTS on DC?

Pact worked freaking awesome yesterday. ALL of us. Even zone chat was different. No b!tching.....was scary!

Azura was locked from 18:00 to 2 am. Locked = the same number. Explain that?

How does it have anything to do with the post you quoted?

themdogesbite · February 2016

Cogo wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Azura is locked right now with 0 lag. What are you doing? Seriously, we cant find you.

The only "playable" fight i had yesterday on Azura dureing the evening

Sure, and that's how pact took half the map from you yesterday? Because AD didn't have zerg teams going NUTS on DC?

Pact worked freaking awesome yesterday. ALL of us. Even zone chat was different. No b!tching.....was scary!

Azura was locked from 18:00 to 2 am. Locked = the same number. Explain that?

I think you miss the point, when i PvP i look for good fights, i dont care which colour the map is in.

Berserkur · February 2016

themdogesbite wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Azura is locked right now with 0 lag. What are you doing? Seriously, we cant find you.

The only "playable" fight i had yesterday on Azura dureing the evening

Sure, and that's how pact took half the map from you yesterday? Because AD didn't have zerg teams going NUTS on DC?

Pact worked freaking awesome yesterday. ALL of us. Even zone chat was different. No b!tching.....was scary!

Azura was locked from 18:00 to 2 am. Locked = the same number. Explain that?

I think you miss the point, when i PvP i look for good fights, i dont care which colour the map is in.

"Playable" with an 250ms ping? Well....

Cogo · February 2016

Erondil wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Azura is locked right now with 0 lag. What are you doing? Seriously, we cant find you.

The only "playable" fight i had yesterday on Azura dureing the evening

Sure, and that's how pact took half the map from you yesterday? Because AD didn't have zerg teams going NUTS on DC?

Pact worked freaking awesome yesterday. ALL of us. Even zone chat was different. No b!tching.....was scary!

Azura was locked from 18:00 to 2 am. Locked = the same number. Explain that?

How does it have anything to do with the post you quoted?

If there was so few "playable" fights, how come we, PACT, owned AD so completely all night yesterday?
AD had plenty of teams fighting us at first. You stood no chance what so ever to even come close to Alessia/Drake, all night!

Ash seamed to be the only "Safe" place where AD farmed pact pugs.

First around 2 or 3 am, I got run over by a decent AD team, in BRK - Alessia, which we took back, with you in them!
My team was 6-8. And the only reason you even got to cross over to us, was that War was down at Blackboot to grab the second scroll from you. Well done calling in Big Boss full team at 4 am!

themdogesbite · February 2016

,

Cogo wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Azura is locked right now with 0 lag. What are you doing? Seriously, we cant find you.

The only "playable" fight i had yesterday on Azura dureing the evening

Sure, and that's how pact took half the map from you yesterday? Because AD didn't have zerg teams going NUTS on DC?

Pact worked freaking awesome yesterday. ALL of us. Even zone chat was different. No b!tching.....was scary!

Azura was locked from 18:00 to 2 am. Locked = the same number. Explain that?

How does it have anything to do with the post you quoted?

If there was so few "playable" fights, how come we, PACT, owned AD so completely all night yesterday?
AD had plenty of teams fighting us at first. You stood no chance what so ever to even come close to Alessia/Drake, all night!

Ash seamed to be the only "Safe" place where AD farmed pact pugs.

First around 2 or 3 am, I got run over by a decent AD team, in BRK - Alessia, which we took back, with you in them!
My team was 6-8. And the only reason you even got to cross over to us, was that War was down at Blackboot to grab the second scroll from you. Well done calling in Big Boss full team at 4 am!

it's great that you seem to enjoy your RP forums posts, but please let me know when you feel like makeing atleast a bit of sense.

AbraXuSeXile · February 2016

Less walls of text please

PURPLE245 · February 2016

i bet half the people in here crying about lag ate the ones in a 3 full man raid causing it..... what do people expect the game i bound to lag with so many people running around in a small ball and people can say ah they advertised large scale pvp... yeah they did but more like 24v24 at one keep the maybe like another 24v24 in another keep in a toally diff place on the map not 2 hole damn fractions all in one damn keep what do you expect running in such big groups in one place

Etaniel · February 2016

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Less walls of text please

Walls of text are my specialty in this thread
stop hatin', start rantin', git writin'

Tavore1138 · February 2016

Etaniel wrote: »

Tuvi wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

There we go @ZOS_MollyH. Better?

isn't a full dialogue, right?

Now should be better.

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

I don't give a **** about blue internal drama. I' like to meet this Legio Mortuum.

So. Much. Drama.

And not just within DC either this stuff seems to be non-stop on PvP (maybe just EU?) - there seems to be a subset of players who are very concerned about how the game should best be played - and that would be the way they choose to play it of course - and how everyone who feels differently is not as good as they are... it sometimes feels a little like being an involuntary part of some soap opera scripted by an angst laden teen.

Some guilds hate other guilds, some GMs hate other GMs. Angry whispers from people you've just killed to tell you how much better than you they are or how they'd beat you in a duel.

I'd never really played an MMO before and I find the whole thing fascinating

It's not about telling people how the game should be played, it's about making them realise that the lag they complain about is directly caused by their playstyle, not exactly the same thing

There is some fairness in that but people have learned to blob up whatever the group size because of how skills work in groups.

Look at something like barrier - a skill every group seems to use. To have it work effectively an hit people then they need to be within range of the person casting it, same with purges, speed buffs and so on - all these necessary skills push a group to being in a fairly small area. The same is true of aoe style attacks, of CCs and root and most other skills designed to either help or hinder a group play style.

And then look at the other factor - numbers. Lets say the Banana Squad meet and equally skilled group of another alliance who know their roles in the raid, use the right skills in the right rotations and have a raid leader who is making fast, good calls. At that point you will get a certain degree of stalemate unless one side has a couple of extra players to tip the balance and so on and so on.

PURPLE245 wrote: »

i bet half the people in here crying about lag ate the ones in a 3 full man raid causing it..... what do people expect the game i bound to lag with so many people running around in a small ball and people can say ah they advertised large scale pvp... yeah they did but more like 24v24 at one keep the maybe like another 24v24 in another keep in a toally diff place on the map not 2 hole damn fractions all in one damn keep what do you expect running in such big groups in one place

No, they advertised battles with 100s of players. Which was possible before patch 1.3.

And there is a reason groups run in blobs whatever size they are - to stay in range of the group skills/heals/buffs. If you are outside a fairly small radius you aren't getting heals, purges, buffs, barriers and so on - that game is designed to reward teams for blobbing.

If they were to change the radius skills could affect but limit them to team only that would make it less imperative for close formation running.

Even then you have limited range aoe skills which need to be focused to cut through the heals/buffs/shields of enemy groups - again reward comes for close formation running. Most single target skills have little place in tight group combat.

To break the need to group and use skills repeatedly the combat design of PvP would need to be significantly altered and altered in such a way as to keep group tactics viable in things like trials.

Cogo · February 2016

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

And what the heck is this about Pact isn't pushing blues?
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/249365/so-ep-and-dc-when-is-it-going-to-be-enough#latest

That's rich!
After months of night caping and the only exception too a yellow emp, is a blue one?
Even if I find Banana Squad to be impressive, Pact do not. The big devil for pact isn't even yellow.
Its the blue emp BLUE Emp which YOU stop us to get to, by your constant night caping.

azoriangaming · February 2016

Etaniel wrote: »

Tuvi wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

There we go @ZOS_MollyH. Better?

isn't a full dialogue, right?

Now should be better.

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

I don't give a **** about blue internal drama. I' like to meet this Legio Mortuum.

So. Much. Drama.

And not just within DC either this stuff seems to be non-stop on PvP (maybe just EU?) - there seems to be a subset of players who are very concerned about how the game should best be played - and that would be the way they choose to play it of course - and how everyone who feels differently is not as good as they are... it sometimes feels a little like being an involuntary part of some soap opera scripted by an angst laden teen.

Some guilds hate other guilds, some GMs hate other GMs. Angry whispers from people you've just killed to tell you how much better than you they are or how they'd beat you in a duel.

I'd never really played an MMO before and I find the whole thing fascinating

It's not about telling people how the game should be played, it's about making them realise that the lag they complain about is directly caused by their playstyle, not exactly the same thing

this

Tavore1138 · February 2016

rdbrown1987 wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Tuvi wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

There we go @ZOS_MollyH. Better?

isn't a full dialogue, right?

Now should be better.

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

I don't give a **** about blue internal drama. I' like to meet this Legio Mortuum.

So. Much. Drama.

And not just within DC either this stuff seems to be non-stop on PvP (maybe just EU?) - there seems to be a subset of players who are very concerned about how the game should best be played - and that would be the way they choose to play it of course - and how everyone who feels differently is not as good as they are... it sometimes feels a little like being an involuntary part of some soap opera scripted by an angst laden teen.

Some guilds hate other guilds, some GMs hate other GMs. Angry whispers from people you've just killed to tell you how much better than you they are or how they'd beat you in a duel.

I'd never really played an MMO before and I find the whole thing fascinating

It's not about telling people how the game should be played, it's about making them realise that the lag they complain about is directly caused by their playstyle, not exactly the same thing

this

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Basically if the servers is full of people playing PvP there will be lag, if you are at a large battle there will be lag - doesn't matter how skilled the players are or aren't 24 cool players using group skills are as liable, possibly more liable, to cause lag as 24 noobs doing the best they can.

ToRelax · February 2016

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

rdbrown1987 wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Tuvi wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

There we go @ZOS_MollyH. Better?

isn't a full dialogue, right?

Now should be better.

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

I don't give a **** about blue internal drama. I' like to meet this Legio Mortuum.

So. Much. Drama.

And not just within DC either this stuff seems to be non-stop on PvP (maybe just EU?) - there seems to be a subset of players who are very concerned about how the game should best be played - and that would be the way they choose to play it of course - and how everyone who feels differently is not as good as they are... it sometimes feels a little like being an involuntary part of some soap opera scripted by an angst laden teen.

Some guilds hate other guilds, some GMs hate other GMs. Angry whispers from people you've just killed to tell you how much better than you they are or how they'd beat you in a duel.

I'd never really played an MMO before and I find the whole thing fascinating

It's not about telling people how the game should be played, it's about making them realise that the lag they complain about is directly caused by their playstyle, not exactly the same thing

this

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Basically if the servers is full of people playing PvP there will be lag, if you are at a large battle there will be lag - doesn't matter how skilled the players are or aren't 24 cool players using group skills are as liable, possibly more liable, to cause lag as 24 noobs doing the best they can.

What are you even talking about? I don't think @Etaniel meant to imply that more coordinated groups cause less lag...

Jhunn · February 2016

30 min on Azura, peaked at 1200 ping, 89 EP targets hit, we gave up and stopped.

People who play on this campaign every day during prime time are nothing less than mental.

AbraXuSeXile · February 2016

Unfortunetely as DC i feel forced to be there or im hunting pvp all night, the other factions need head examined as to why play Azura when other campaigns are blue.

Etaniel · February 2016

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

[snip] Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

[Edited for inflammatory comment]

Jhunn · February 2016

Tavore1138 · February 2016

Etaniel wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

do everyone a favor and split your zerg when the ping turns red

Ok, ok! Calm down! Rage at me all you want!. I don't even mind that you do.
But calling me a zerg, when we are the only 4 pact ONLINE, who even tries to stop your morning trains, is not very smart. I think you should ask your guildies about what one orc and his team can do with your night cap emp teams.

I'm not even raging at you for being in a zerg, in fact I've seen some of your post on these forums and I know you play in relatively small groups. I'm pissed at you for telling that I'm spreading lies, and that player behaviour has nothing to do with performance, and that I should get rid of my addons to get a better ping.

I don't have a morning train, or a night cap emp, because since performance and player mentality in this game is utter crap, I only hit PvP once a week nowadays. Don't bring in anymore irrelevant arguments please when you didn't cover any of my reply

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Except if I come to Azura solo the lag is there as much as if I come in a group, pretending there is a magic group size that causes problems is not supported by the evidence, pretending that a group who run tighter and more coordinated causes less lag than a less skilled group is actually counter-intuitive at best.

Are you trolling? Of course there's as much lag if you come solo, lag isn't bound to one person, it affects everyone, so if one mega zerg is lagging the server, whether you come solo or in a group, your ping will be affected in the exact same way.
I never said there was a magic group size, ubt there is a direct correlation between performance and group size, the bigger the amount of people in a fight, the higher the ping. It's a simple rule, and 100% true.

And where the heck did I say tigher groups cause less lag than uncoordinated groups?

The implication lately, and perhaps reading too much into your mention of 'play style' - if I am please clarify, seems to be that there are good groups who don't cause lag and bad groups who do whereas it is simply down to the number of players in an area.

Two 12 man groups of Banana Squad is going to cause just as much lag as one group of 24 or 24 random solo players heading for a single place plus or minus some adjustments for some skills working the server harder than others - so when, knowing that as you clearly do, you tell me that the lag is because of our groups play style I have to wonder if you are the one trolling, not me?

Now obviously if guilds were running 3 or 4 groups of 24 all spamming skills in the same area then that is going to be attributable to that guild - but I don't think (m)any guilds like that really exist?