Fishing Overhaul

C0pp3rhead

What if the first passive in the skill line was something like Sharp Eyes: increase stealth detection radius by 1m/2m/3m/4m?

Rhazmuz

Of all the things they could work in right now, this probably has to be at the bottom of the list

stojekarcub18_ESO

keybaud wrote: »

I agree. I really wish this game was more sandbox with WAY more to do than just things that involve combat. They need stuff like horse racing or betting on actual frog races with other players rather then just a dumb quest.

oooooh, I ADORE the betting idea!!

Mashille

Going underwater sounds cool. They could add treasure chests underwater and ship wrecks

Aballister

All fishing seems to do is take up backpack space with zero valued bait items, which I just delete.

Alphashado

I couldn't agree more. OP +10

Even if they are using developmental resources for other issues, some small changes would still go a long ways towards making fishing more fun, rewarding, and desirable.

Mashille

People who are disregarding this should understand I'm not saying that it's ruining the game or anything like that I'm kudzu stastating that there needs to be more things to do in ESO that aren't combat oriented and fishing has so much potential.

Davadin

i dont need specific skill lines, but if it can be at least more interactive than staring at the screen and tapping 1 button and MAYBE u get some junk, MAYBE u got one fish...... then we're talkin.

like alpha said.. should be more fun, rewarding, and desirable.

Torquebow

I new fishing skill line would be awesome! I completely agree. I think the actual mechanics of fishing are pretty good, slightly more intuitive than say WoWs version of fishing, but not so much you can't do it completely wasted.

but fishing skill lines ohmaigosh

Jochamo

Just no. So many other items need addressing before this.

Mentalmelon

For me personally, I don't find the fishing in this game bad or boring like some players may do.

I feel its a great little side hobby when you need a break from all the dialogue and destruction where you can just wander off and chill out somewhere with stunning scenery and soundtrack to unwind.

With this in mind I do agree with the OP it would be nice to give it a little more importance. I love the idea that its about the achievement completions but the rare fish has to have some kind of meaning, Give them a nice value for the hard work put into finding these fish. Maybe introduce the weights of the rare fish to go onto a server or faction leader board to spice things up a little.

Just a thought.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

keybaud wrote: »

Hello. I really think that the fishing system at the moment needs a complete overhaul and revamp to make it better and more meaningful.

.............

Having just been introduced to fishing by a Guildie I was thinking this exact thing, and had in fact started jotting down a few idea on how to overhaul it.

I'll scrub my notes now, because you have done a much better job than had managed.

I agree with you 100%.

I would only add that it would be nice if the occasional Gunny Sack had a Treasure Map, or other "document", maybe something to kick off a new adventure, a clue to a Blue Quality piece of gear, or something like that.

All The Best

kodo

as a player who does fishing every day,i dont think that it requires a skill line or quests.
some things dont have to be competitive,and fishing is one of them.it's something u do when u want to relax after a lot of killing,and putting skill line to it or quests will kill the fun and encourage everyone just to fish for the sake of
more xp or whatever.thank god no xp in fishing so i dont have to see all these frenzy players running around me .i get dizzy enough when i see them running around in quests , hell no i dont need that when i'm fishing..
the only thing i do want to see is more rare fishes added, especially in areas like khenartis rust ,betnikh,stros mkai,and all those small islands that need just 1 rare to unlock achievement.give me 12 minimum !

gwarkub17_ESO

After many many months of grinding the fishing, I finally achieved my.Master Angler achievement. I wear my Master Angler title like a badge of honor. This achievement is arguably the most difficult in terms of patience required.

I'd love to see so many improvements to this minigame and love the idea of some kind of weekly challenge. During the many hours spent casting line after line into the water, I was grumbling about how there should be at least one passive ability line. A nice simple tiny increase in the chance of snagging a rare. My final fish was a rare blue and took 180+ casts to finally snag the bugger. He sits in my bank now and will never be sold!

I'm glad to see this thread and the good ideas! BUT I also wholeheartedly agree with those who say there's larger issues to address before fishing is even looked at.

Cheers and good luck to my fellow anglers.

UrQuan

gwarkub17_ESO wrote: »

After many many months of grinding the fishing, I finally achieved my.Master Angler achievement. I wear my Master Angler title like a badge of honor. This achievement is arguably the most difficult in terms of patience required.

Were you angling alone, or with friends? I've found that with a group of people you get the rare fish much much much faster than if you're alone. I think a group of 4-6 is probably the ideal size, because it's enough to significantly increase the drop rate of greens and blues, but still few enough that you don't use up a fishing hole after only 2 casts.

Mashille

Thank you for all the feedback. 'Agrees' with my original statement so ZOS may be able to notice that people feel that this needs to be improved. Thanks

Mashille

Even if they don't overhaul fishing they need to add SOMETHING that isn't combat oriented such as minigames with other players like betting on frog races for gold or obstacle courses or something like that. Even partially combat oriented things such as fist brawls.

Gidorick

keybaud wrote: »

Even if they don't overhaul fishing they need to add SOMETHING that isn't combat oriented such as minigames with other players like betting on frog races for gold or obstacle courses or something like that. Even partially combat oriented things such as fist brawls.

Open world pet fighting. I saw people gathered around two crabs fighting in Stros M'kai.

Imagine... pvp could be only in cyrodiil but outside we could be treated to a kind of Elder Scrolls version of Pokemon.

Flynch

Fishing up crates of decent goodies (such as spending time in Cyro, you get posted items) or the occasional boss mob would be fantastic. Right now we just fish up meaningless trash fish, the occasional green or blue fish for the achievement and a wet gunny sack which houses nothing but trait stones (or randomly some incredibly rare crafting mat).

The rare mats are great, don't get me wrong, but the rest of the downtime is sort of 'meh'.

Dear God though, please introduce a 'shinies' collection system with titles or pets as rewards. I'd use my right arm as bait for that.

SteveCampsOut

UrQuan wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

OK, so which is the addon that I need to go and fetch me a fresh one from the fridge when my beverage is gone?

This one, takes some programming, but they are eager to please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulb9QpP4fCI

Sadly my cat seems entirely unprogrammable in that respect. I had hopes of programming my R2 unit for that function, but while it has no problem with bringing me a beverage that it is already holding, it seems incapable of opening the fridge door to get a beverage in the first place. I'm starting to suspect that those Jawas sold me an R2 unit with a bad motivator.

I think I got my R2 unit from the exact same Jawas!

Alphashado

A few minor things would go a long ways. Another suggestion - make each fish caught award a decent amount of XP. Comparible to killing a wolf or skeever. Then give rare fish xp comparible to a pack of mobs or even a quest turn in. Make fishing a viable alternative method to farm Champion Points.

Do that, add in a small chance to get some really cool items, and fishing would be a smash hit.

Gidorick

I absolutely LOVE this concept. There is one thing I would change, however.

keybaud wrote: »

Water Surveillance: 6 Tiered Passive:
Tier 1: Allows you to see a small number of new fishing locations in lakes, rivers and oceans.
Tier 2: Allows you to see a medium number of new fishing locations in lakes, rivers and oceans.
Tier 3: Allows you to see a Large of new fishing locations in lakes, rivers and oceans.
Tier 4: Allows you to fish freely in all lakes, rivers and oceans.

Once fishing freely, players would have a greater chance of catching non-fish objects outside of designated fishing locations and a greater chance of catching actual fish inside the designated fishing locations.

Daenerys

All of the agree to you OP! I would love to see the following too:

Let me chat while I fish! C'mon this is so flipping basic, yet we can't chat or oops stopped fishing hehe Arrrgh! So annoying. Also let me open my inventory, or check fishing achievements, or mail some stuff, or anything while I fish. Please?!

And another thing- let the fish remain unique! I cannot fully articulate what a disappointment it was to filet all the different types of fish... to get fish. Wow. What a total letdown. Let the fish remain unique and better integrate it with provisioning. Please? If not, just let all the fish be named fish and all the different types of bait be called bait. I mean there is no point if it all ends up as generic fish. Lastly in regards to filleting- let us filet multiple fish at a time. You literally made fishing even more unbearable than it already was. Harrumph!

Psychobunni

I gave an insightful but I agree as well. I have only tried to fish once in this game and thought it really boring lol. If there were decent xp tied to it I'd be much more willing to fish.

UrQuan

Daenerys wrote: »

Let me chat while I fish! C'mon this is so flipping basic, yet we can't chat or oops stopped fishing hehe Arrrgh! So annoying. Also let me open my inventory, or check fishing achievements, or mail some stuff, or anything while I fish. Please?!

IMO this is the biggest problem with fishing by far. It's an inherently social activity (the very mechanics of it ensure this, because of how the odds of catching rare fish increases based on the number of people fishing together at a hole), and yet in order to be social while doing it you need to be on Teamspeak (or Vent, or Mumble, or whatever) with the people you're fishing alongside. And if you want to link a green fish in chat to force someone to drink *ahem*, I mean to display your prowess as an angler, you can't do that while fishing either.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

UrQuan wrote: »

IMO this is the biggest problem with fishing by far. It's an inherently social activity (the very mechanics of it ensure this, because of how the odds of catching rare fish increases based on the number of people fishing together at a hole), and yet in order to be social while doing it you need to be on Teamspeak (or Vent, or Mumble, or whatever) with the people you're fishing alongside. And if you want to link a green fish in chat to force someone to drink *ahem*, I mean to display your prowess as an angler, you can't do that while fishing either.

This is a major problem across the whole UI though.

If you have your map open to see where to head to next and Mount up the map is closed (if mounting with map open doesn't crash the system that is).

Because the UI has always been designed as having Consoles as the default OS, it is only capable of handling one non-automated function at once.

It really is shocking in this day and age.

All The Best

Rosveen

There is a way to chat and open menus while fishing. No Thank You does it, I think? Or some other similar addon which also disables the spin when opening inventory. I'll check later.

Mashille

I'm so glad that so many people agree with me on this. We need to get ZOS' attention to this so they can perhaps implement something.

UrQuan

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

IMO this is the biggest problem with fishing by far. It's an inherently social activity (the very mechanics of it ensure this, because of how the odds of catching rare fish increases based on the number of people fishing together at a hole), and yet in order to be social while doing it you need to be on Teamspeak (or Vent, or Mumble, or whatever) with the people you're fishing alongside. And if you want to link a green fish in chat to force someone to drink *ahem*, I mean to display your prowess as an angler, you can't do that while fishing either.

This is a major problem across the whole UI though.

If you have your map open to see where to head to next and Mount up the map is closed (if mounting with map open doesn't crash the system that is).

That's true, but IMO fishing is the only place where it really becomes a big problem. Anywhere else it can be a bit irritating, but I don't ever find it to really be a big deal.

Of course, having said that, because it's an issue across the entire UI that means that it's a problem that is unlikely to ever be solved for fishing, because the solution would require a major UI overhaul, and I suspect that ZOS is reluctant to take such a drastic measure.

SpookyPickle

I think this is a great idea. I'd love some things to do other than quest and run around killing random things.
Not that the quests are horrible, but after a couple hours of doing so, It'd be nice to go work on some relaxing skill.
Fishing would be awesome

stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »

Also, why not add hunting into ESO, similar to the mod in Skyrim where NPCs give you an order to bring them so many of certain types of meat/hides. You could get gold, xp, or even nice food rewards. IDK, now that I type it, it doesn't seem as interesting... adding some little things to spice it up couldn't hurt, though.

I definitely love this idea too! I really hope ZoS implements these wonderful ideas in future.

Good idea, OP. I'm behind you 100% on this.